There's a whole chapter in the Qur'aan that's named after the virgin Mary - peace be upon her and there details the birth of Jesus - peace be upon him - and is titled (Mariam), the Arabic for Mary. This is the one and only chapter named after a female using her name
pleas read Qur'aan and ask god to help you to find The truth
We all know that brother, Quran gave Mary a very high position not given to her even in the Bible itself, alas, most people don't listen. Do you know Arabic?
When Muhammad was alive, he insisted that his followers not worship him as a deity and stressed that he was but a messenger. So why is it that in modern Islam, Muhammad is so revered that to criticize him is punishable by death? Would not Muhammad, to say of nothing of God himself, be displeased that Islam has eroded away to a form of idolatry?
I totally agree with you, a Muslim means someone who obeys the will of God. One God is not just a lip service but one authority that should be obeyed, both of us should stick to God's orders in the Torah, Gospel and Quran, please watch the idiots with signs who claim they are Muslims in my other video:
Richard Dawkins on Islam Debunked: /watch?v=1Jo_CS7mzRc
So as a Muslim, are you willing to condemn your fellow Muslims who obsess over The Prophet being lampooned in western media and oppose the fatwas issued against the dutch cartoonist Gregorius Nekschot, and writer Salman Rushdie for example?
I condemn every criminal, Muslims especially who kill anyone over their freedom of speech, we may discuss, we may disagree, but killing or encouraging killing is one of the greatest sins, look what's happening in the Muslim world between sunni and sheia and other sects, many follow their idiot leaders instead of the direct orders in Quran 6:159 and Quran 30:31-32. It does NOT matter what religion is on your birthday card, God will ask you did you obey HIS MESSAGE.
Well this is encouraging to hear. I'm pleased that you have some respect for human life, however it is a rather awkward fact that you also believe, I presume, that anyone who doesn't share your religious faith is a lost, disorderly, immoral infidel doomed to eternal suffering. Wouldn't you have to admit that a Muslim criminal is still morally superior than a non-Muslim who has otherwise lived an ethical life?
Quran stated CLEARLY that every nation will be judged according to it's prophet and it's book so Christians will be judged according to their own book, I'm NOT asking you to believe Muhammad and Quran, I'm asking you to be a true Christian who obeys DIRECT CLEAR orders from God and Jesus Christ in Torah and Gospel, I hope you agree that it does make sense.
The most important commandment is not the idol commandment (but still important cuz if you break it, you have broken all the commandments), but to love God with all your strength and love your neighbor. If you follow Jesus Christ, can you please tell me where in the quran those commandments are mentioned? Since you quoted OT & NT, do not forget bro, Jesus also said: "before Abraham, i AM." I do not admire his image but his words, for his words is what He is. Admiring an image is idolatry.
Mark 12:29: Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the one and only LORD.
I'm glad you agree that admiring an image is idolatry so unlike many Christians you are very close to Islamic position of Jesus Christ, before I answer you about what's in Quran I want to ask a question, Will you accept ONLY what God said and what Jesus Christ said in the Bible as the basis for our discussion? God and Jesus, no Paul or anyone else?
@helasmoh Bro, you forgot verse 30 and 31. Anyone else? If you mean the prophets and his disciples; they uttered his words and for that reason are of Him. Not a single word they said has contradicted what the Lord has said. It would be like me asking you if you accept God's word or Muhammads, but you won't reject Muhammad and i wont force you to. Therefore, the answer is yes, i will accept only what God has said. If his followers speak his words, i trust them. God bless
Mathew 5:19 what about the preceeding verses for context.
17:Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
SO the old law is in place no new religion, remain Jewish and use the talmud.
What was unclear in this video that you didn't understand that it is the same law from the same God, Jesus Christ was sent to humanity because religious leaders corrupted the law of God to take control of people, did you even read the Gospel?
The real horror is when God asks you what did you answer His messengers?
The real horror is when He tells you why you didn't study My message instead of looking at the criminals who claim they speak in My name?
The real horror is when you denied Heaven and the only multiverse left for you is NOT tuned at all, you watched my video on fine tuning and you're still blind from the Designer clear FACT by scientists.
Read about the horror in God's last message, this is the real one
We are NOT enemies, we are all brothers and sisters, unfortunately, many theists forget this fact when they debate atheists, it is not about winning a debate, it is about saving my brother/sister and have him/her as a friend for eternity. Since you mentioned hope I still have a small hope in you :), a small question, do you think God is a possibility? even a tiny one, like 1% for example? what's your percentage?
God is a possibility? This is a loaded question as to be interlectualy honest, like Richard Dawkins I must say yes, there is always a possibility, I'd say more like 0.001 % and every year it get smaller. However to put it in context 1 it is the same chance as Mickey Mouse being God and 2 If it was so the deity has provided no evidence of itself NONE so far. 3 It would not be anything like any of the man made religions describe, they are invention and myth there is evidence for that
All brothers and Sisters, you sound like a humanist and atheist.
Religion has brought the oposite throughout history and no sign of it stopping in fact more likley to get worse.
I know they claim peace and love ect but only by becoming a mindless slave to thier particular twisted version of theocratic dictatorship, which mean including all the horrors that go with it and to stop thinking or questioning. Not for me maybe in 2000BCE not in 2012AD maybe in 2000BCE
@VideoAudioDisco09 Look at Iran. Listen to Ahmadinejad. Islam preaches peace. Islam is making muslims the new owners of the western lands. The West has brought upon itself it's own destruction by trying to destroy those who are awake to God and embracing Atheism making them unable to resist the Zionists who are flooding their countries with Muslims displaced from the Wests wars. If you do not follow God you will destroy your people. God is choosing the Muslims to beat the Zionists.
basically you're right. idolatry is forbidden in the bible. strictly speaking even the cross would be religios imagery and therefor not permitted. but i'm afraid the christians won't listen. it has always been a long historical issue between the denominations. they will answer that there exists an iconodule response to iconoclasm.
Wikipedia Byzantine Iconoclasm.
this clip could be better if you subdivide the message into 3 parts:
praise - reproach - solution.. as softcore as you can.
remember the goal: give the ape sugar. first they have to trust you. that you accept them and then slowly drag them on your side. bait the hook. if you just critizise it won't work. they will react defiant. after all, one feels patriotically obliged to ones traditions..
in my experience and my unliterall understanding of religion is that
jesus never "meant " to say the law is not good.. he says .. THE LAW SHOULD NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SINFUL .. it should SERVE PEOPLE.. people should ENJOY THE LAW.. and forgive themselves..
you have to understand self sacrfice .. that god sacrificed his law for us not so we dont obay it but so we know we CAN obay it without shame...
and i am not even a religous person... this was gods love for us.. not idol worship..
Honestly don't think you should go against Christians, they will pick faith over reasoning any day. Trust me, this is one battle you don't wanna fight.
Very nice to hear from you again dear brother. I don't think I will make any more videos against Christianity, I still hope some of our Christian brothers and sister would listen to this indisputable logic. Allah in the Quran ordered us to tell them. I'm doing this video so I don't get blamed. I hope you agree. Also I tell many atheists that it is the same God with the same message through this video. By the way, did you watch my video about Dawkins and the fine tuning?
@helasmoh Yes I have watched all your videos especially the fine tuning one, enjoyed the look of Dawkins' face :) and looking forward for more videos.
Anyway one thing you must understand about Christians is that their way of finding the truth is different, most of the Christians believe that reason can't never find truth and then there is also the belief [of their scholars even] that Jesus is converting Muslims [ignorant that is] into Christianity through dreams, not evidence.
@ReasoningAndThinking in my experience and my unliterall understanding of religion is that
jesus never "meant " to say the law is not good.. he says .. THE LAW SHOULD NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SINFUL .. it should SERVE PEOPLE.. people should ENJOY THE LAW.. and forgive themselves..
you have to understand self sacrfice .. that god sacrificed his law for us not so we dont obay it but so we know we CAN obay it without shame...
and i am not even a religous person nor christian i belive in god
Quite So, in fact there is growing evidence for a neurological basis to belief, including detachment from reality.
However don't avoid the fight because of the self serving stupidity and denial of reality displayed by the theist.
There will be thoes who read the comments and have questions about thier faith, it may be them that are saved from themselves and the preditory religions of hate.
Many top atheists were theist till they went in search of truth.
in my experience and my unliterall understanding of religion is that
jesus never "meant " to say the law is not good.. he says .. THE LAW SHOULD NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SINFUL .. it should SERVE PEOPLE.. people should ENJOY THE LAW.. and forgive themselves..
you have to understand self sacrfice .. that god sacrificed his law for us not so we dont obay it but so we know we CAN obay it without shame...
and i am not even a religous person nor christian i belive in god
@TheRogueMonk Islam is not an abrahamic religion. It's a worship of the ancient egyptian moongod Yah if you study it well enough. That's why somewhat every islamic country has a crescent moon and a star on its flag.
The Qur'an is not to be compared with other religions, the Qur'an is the only one of its kind that provoces hatres amoungst believers and unbelievers.
They differ alot. The Qur'an was written by a dictation of pedophilic illerate Mohammed, the Bible by God's divine intervention.
@TheRogueMonk The Bible's translation has been carefully overlooked at during translations and other types of ''re-examination''. The current best translation in English, that preserved the native English language, is the King James Version, which was untouched after its last translation during the year 1600.
@TheLightedDarkness well he was in flesh.. so its a bit confusing.. in the bible it never directly says jesus is god.. i think it was interpreted that way by many scholars later on.. it doe snot need to be that he was god in the story nor does it really break anything if he wasnt... it was still a symbolic sacrifice and freedom from sin as they knew it.. many think that means people should sin now.. that is just not true and never said it was in the bible.. again i am not even religious nor chr
@TheRogueMonk he was the " spirit of god" in that way he was " son of man" and he was a sacrifice... i think no one should have to explain this in the idol way .. because i think its a beutiful story even if its jus ta story.. i think it is better to find harmony in things and enjoy them instead of taking things litterally and not learn how to please oneself through pleasing GOD.. god wants our best... and nothing more
@TheRogueMonk of course not.... word of god is not god... its the will of god
god made a man that acts out his words... only some people came and thought that meant that he was godgod can not be in two places at the same time.. god is eternal and complete and whole he can not be in pieces... if god was for one second to leave his possition and be in flesh .. he would have to be in parts and also stop tending to life...
jesus even prayed to god.. there is evidence he did.. so he can not be god
@TheRogueMonk of course to me its all stories i dont take any of the stories litteral anyway but i think even so there is a distinktion about what is the word and the will of god and what is god in the pure sense of god...
even tere is evidence that jesus asked god to do miracles with him or for him.. so jesus can not be god...
jesus told people tobeleive in god and talked about god .. then he can not be god for he can not refer to himself in third person ..
@TheRogueMonk When we say freedom from sin or gods forgiveness it is so people can obay the law with grace not with fear or with weakness but with streanght that they know every second is a new chance and that everyone need time to learn to obay. .. and that there is never too late everyoen can through their spirit enjoy a reichous life without strictly being a pure pure golden person.
@TheRogueMonk it is important in life to "sin" because everything is a learning curve no one can not sin completely ... to sin is just another form of learning... imagine if no one sinned then large portion of gods life would never been experienced ... people need to " sin" so that they can grow and mature.. then they have to strive to not sin at the same time to help themselves out of it.. its a part of the process of evolving as an intelligent human being.. it is not healthy to otehrweise
and again i think that is what it means tobe free from sin .. is to be allowed to sin in order to learn and strive at the same time not to...
i doubt people who truly understand gods message does want to be saved just to sin again... people just want to be saved so that they can have a chance of learning how to not sin.
if everyman was presumed to be sinful then they would never be able to achieve anything because no matter what they would still short fall from gods grace
the bible was only for a specific people for a specific time period. and no to be followed by all until the end.
however the quran should be followed by everyone, as it is the last book from GOD.
Mancunian786 1 week ago
Allah bless you brother ALLAH IS MY GOD THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH
ebnmasoud1 1 month ago
@ebnmasoud1
Thank you brother, please watch my other video, I hope you like it: Quran Vs. Lawrence Krauss and "A Universe From Nothing": /watch?v=cv7lCR-7AKQ
helasmoh 1 month ago
Did you know that...
There's a whole chapter in the Qur'aan that's named after the virgin Mary - peace be upon her and there details the birth of Jesus - peace be upon him - and is titled (Mariam), the Arabic for Mary. This is the one and only chapter named after a female using her name
pleas read Qur'aan and ask god to help you to find The truth
Petunia668 1 month ago
@Petunia668
We all know that brother, Quran gave Mary a very high position not given to her even in the Bible itself, alas, most people don't listen. Do you know Arabic?
helasmoh 1 month ago
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Petunia668 1 month ago
So I've got a question.
When Muhammad was alive, he insisted that his followers not worship him as a deity and stressed that he was but a messenger. So why is it that in modern Islam, Muhammad is so revered that to criticize him is punishable by death? Would not Muhammad, to say of nothing of God himself, be displeased that Islam has eroded away to a form of idolatry?
Darthmaio 1 month ago
@Darthmaio
I totally agree with you, a Muslim means someone who obeys the will of God. One God is not just a lip service but one authority that should be obeyed, both of us should stick to God's orders in the Torah, Gospel and Quran, please watch the idiots with signs who claim they are Muslims in my other video:
Richard Dawkins on Islam Debunked: /watch?v=1Jo_CS7mzRc
helasmoh 1 month ago
@helasmoh
So as a Muslim, are you willing to condemn your fellow Muslims who obsess over The Prophet being lampooned in western media and oppose the fatwas issued against the dutch cartoonist Gregorius Nekschot, and writer Salman Rushdie for example?
Darthmaio 1 month ago
@Darthmaio
I condemn every criminal, Muslims especially who kill anyone over their freedom of speech, we may discuss, we may disagree, but killing or encouraging killing is one of the greatest sins, look what's happening in the Muslim world between sunni and sheia and other sects, many follow their idiot leaders instead of the direct orders in Quran 6:159 and Quran 30:31-32. It does NOT matter what religion is on your birthday card, God will ask you did you obey HIS MESSAGE.
helasmoh 1 month ago
@helasmoh
Well this is encouraging to hear. I'm pleased that you have some respect for human life, however it is a rather awkward fact that you also believe, I presume, that anyone who doesn't share your religious faith is a lost, disorderly, immoral infidel doomed to eternal suffering. Wouldn't you have to admit that a Muslim criminal is still morally superior than a non-Muslim who has otherwise lived an ethical life?
Darthmaio 1 month ago
@Darthmaio
Quran stated CLEARLY that every nation will be judged according to it's prophet and it's book so Christians will be judged according to their own book, I'm NOT asking you to believe Muhammad and Quran, I'm asking you to be a true Christian who obeys DIRECT CLEAR orders from God and Jesus Christ in Torah and Gospel, I hope you agree that it does make sense.
helasmoh 1 month ago
I agree here, christians, usually catholics worship not only the 3 entities but also mary ect...
Yet they just say "they are all one"
Hypocracy.
Yahweigh 2 months ago
The most important commandment is not the idol commandment (but still important cuz if you break it, you have broken all the commandments), but to love God with all your strength and love your neighbor. If you follow Jesus Christ, can you please tell me where in the quran those commandments are mentioned? Since you quoted OT & NT, do not forget bro, Jesus also said: "before Abraham, i AM." I do not admire his image but his words, for his words is what He is. Admiring an image is idolatry.
mikefanofmovies 3 months ago
@mikefanofmovies
Mark 12:29: Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the one and only LORD.
I'm glad you agree that admiring an image is idolatry so unlike many Christians you are very close to Islamic position of Jesus Christ, before I answer you about what's in Quran I want to ask a question, Will you accept ONLY what God said and what Jesus Christ said in the Bible as the basis for our discussion? God and Jesus, no Paul or anyone else?
helasmoh 3 months ago
@helasmoh Bro, you forgot verse 30 and 31. Anyone else? If you mean the prophets and his disciples; they uttered his words and for that reason are of Him. Not a single word they said has contradicted what the Lord has said. It would be like me asking you if you accept God's word or Muhammads, but you won't reject Muhammad and i wont force you to. Therefore, the answer is yes, i will accept only what God has said. If his followers speak his words, i trust them. God bless
mikefanofmovies 3 months ago
@mikefanofmovies
I completely agree with 30 and 31. I will send a message to your inbox so there is no characters restriction.
helasmoh 3 months ago
Mathew 5:19 what about the preceeding verses for context.
17:Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
SO the old law is in place no new religion, remain Jewish and use the talmud.
Simple.
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
What was unclear in this video that you didn't understand that it is the same law from the same God, Jesus Christ was sent to humanity because religious leaders corrupted the law of God to take control of people, did you even read the Gospel?
helasmoh 3 months ago
@helasmoh
Yes I read it but not with blinkers on.
It is a myth. So what.
The religions of islam and christianity can not agree on so many aspects of thier own faith, WHY.
Because it is not clear! because it was made up by man and has been doctored so many times.
It contains some of the common wisdom and useful guidence found throught the worlds cultures.
Nothing really unique except the potential for doing evil in the name of the faith.
It will be looked back at in horror one day.
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
The real horror is when God asks you what did you answer His messengers?
The real horror is when He tells you why you didn't study My message instead of looking at the criminals who claim they speak in My name?
The real horror is when you denied Heaven and the only multiverse left for you is NOT tuned at all, you watched my video on fine tuning and you're still blind from the Designer clear FACT by scientists.
Read about the horror in God's last message, this is the real one
helasmoh 3 months ago
@helasmoh
The real horror is that in this day and age, people still get sucked into or indoctrinated into Religious faith.
The real horror is the psychosis that devides humanity and brings death based on man made myths.
The real horror is watching the utter hypocrisy of thoes claiming to know what they do not.
The real horror is seeing the lives wasted and emptyness of religious belief, that leads to nothing.
"Faith" means not wanting to know what is true. -Friedrich Nietzsche
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
We will see about that, I still wish you all the best.
helasmoh 3 months ago
@helasmoh
Well thank you how humanist and non religious of you. There is hope.
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
We are NOT enemies, we are all brothers and sisters, unfortunately, many theists forget this fact when they debate atheists, it is not about winning a debate, it is about saving my brother/sister and have him/her as a friend for eternity. Since you mentioned hope I still have a small hope in you :), a small question, do you think God is a possibility? even a tiny one, like 1% for example? what's your percentage?
helasmoh 3 months ago
@helasmoh
God is a possibility? This is a loaded question as to be interlectualy honest, like Richard Dawkins I must say yes, there is always a possibility, I'd say more like 0.001 % and every year it get smaller. However to put it in context 1 it is the same chance as Mickey Mouse being God and 2 If it was so the deity has provided no evidence of itself NONE so far. 3 It would not be anything like any of the man made religions describe, they are invention and myth there is evidence for that
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
@helasmoh
All brothers and Sisters, you sound like a humanist and atheist.
Religion has brought the oposite throughout history and no sign of it stopping in fact more likley to get worse.
I know they claim peace and love ect but only by becoming a mindless slave to thier particular twisted version of theocratic dictatorship, which mean including all the horrors that go with it and to stop thinking or questioning. Not for me maybe in 2000BCE not in 2012AD maybe in 2000BCE
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
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@VideoAudioDisco09 Look at Iran. Listen to Ahmadinejad. Islam preaches peace. Islam is making muslims the new owners of the western lands. The West has brought upon itself it's own destruction by trying to destroy those who are awake to God and embracing Atheism making them unable to resist the Zionists who are flooding their countries with Muslims displaced from the Wests wars. If you do not follow God you will destroy your people. God is choosing the Muslims to beat the Zionists.
Luigi84289 3 months ago
basically you're right. idolatry is forbidden in the bible. strictly speaking even the cross would be religios imagery and therefor not permitted. but i'm afraid the christians won't listen. it has always been a long historical issue between the denominations. they will answer that there exists an iconodule response to iconoclasm.
Wikipedia Byzantine Iconoclasm.
this clip could be better if you subdivide the message into 3 parts:
praise - reproach - solution.. as softcore as you can.
carryall69 4 months ago
remember the goal: give the ape sugar. first they have to trust you. that you accept them and then slowly drag them on your side. bait the hook. if you just critizise it won't work. they will react defiant. after all, one feels patriotically obliged to ones traditions..
carryall69 4 months ago
in my experience and my unliterall understanding of religion is that
jesus never "meant " to say the law is not good.. he says .. THE LAW SHOULD NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SINFUL .. it should SERVE PEOPLE.. people should ENJOY THE LAW.. and forgive themselves..
you have to understand self sacrfice .. that god sacrificed his law for us not so we dont obay it but so we know we CAN obay it without shame...
and i am not even a religous person... this was gods love for us.. not idol worship..
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
Honestly don't think you should go against Christians, they will pick faith over reasoning any day. Trust me, this is one battle you don't wanna fight.
ReasoningAndThinking 5 months ago
@ReasoningAndThinking
Very nice to hear from you again dear brother. I don't think I will make any more videos against Christianity, I still hope some of our Christian brothers and sister would listen to this indisputable logic. Allah in the Quran ordered us to tell them. I'm doing this video so I don't get blamed. I hope you agree. Also I tell many atheists that it is the same God with the same message through this video. By the way, did you watch my video about Dawkins and the fine tuning?
helasmoh 5 months ago
@helasmoh Yes I have watched all your videos especially the fine tuning one, enjoyed the look of Dawkins' face :) and looking forward for more videos.
Anyway one thing you must understand about Christians is that their way of finding the truth is different, most of the Christians believe that reason can't never find truth and then there is also the belief [of their scholars even] that Jesus is converting Muslims [ignorant that is] into Christianity through dreams, not evidence.
ReasoningAndThinking 5 months ago
@ReasoningAndThinking Correction: "reason can never find truth"
ReasoningAndThinking 5 months ago
@ReasoningAndThinking in my experience and my unliterall understanding of religion is that
jesus never "meant " to say the law is not good.. he says .. THE LAW SHOULD NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SINFUL .. it should SERVE PEOPLE.. people should ENJOY THE LAW.. and forgive themselves..
you have to understand self sacrfice .. that god sacrificed his law for us not so we dont obay it but so we know we CAN obay it without shame...
and i am not even a religous person nor christian i belive in god
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@ReasoningAndThinking
Quite So, in fact there is growing evidence for a neurological basis to belief, including detachment from reality.
However don't avoid the fight because of the self serving stupidity and denial of reality displayed by the theist.
There will be thoes who read the comments and have questions about thier faith, it may be them that are saved from themselves and the preditory religions of hate.
Many top atheists were theist till they went in search of truth.
VideoAudioDisco09 3 months ago
@helasmoh She mentions that it's in another context, but it isn't, she's just interpreting it according to her own oppinions.
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
Yeshua isn't the Law, He's the Word of God made flesh.
You seem to like putting your own interpretation and views on the Biblical Scriptures.
Have fun denying this one of your ''beloved Quran'':
"fight and slay the pagans (or infidels or unbelievers) wherever you find them" (Surah 9:5)
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
@TheLightedDarkness
I will let another Jew, a female reporter, answer you about this verse: TEDxRainier - Lesley Hazleton : /watch?v=O7yaDlZfqrc
Most likely you will fit her description, you will know what I mean when you watch the video.
helasmoh 5 months ago
@helasmoh So you're denying that your Quran says the forementioned quote I made concerning Surah 9:5?
Because she says ''I might have taken it out of context''', to be honest, I just copied and pasted it the way it is written in the Quran.
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
@TheLightedDarkness
So you didn't watch all the video, please do, she addressed this verse in particular. It's a nice funny video.
helasmoh 5 months ago
@TheLightedDarkness i dont take jesus story as that he existed .. i think he existed as in the story
and i think that one should try to take things metaphorically at best from religion and that is only time i benefitted from it
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
in my experience and my unliterall understanding of religion is that
jesus never "meant " to say the law is not good.. he says .. THE LAW SHOULD NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SINFUL .. it should SERVE PEOPLE.. people should ENJOY THE LAW.. and forgive themselves..
you have to understand self sacrfice .. that god sacrificed his law for us not so we dont obay it but so we know we CAN obay it without shame...
and i am not even a religous person nor christian i belive in god
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheLightedDarkness well whatever quran said is said honestly in any other of the abrhamic religions
quran is just another series of your religion.
quran is a result of abrahamic religion.... mostly even if they differ in explenation they dont in what they teach...
tehy teach exactly the same things... and talk exactly abou the same god
i think honestly that Christianity has a lot of problems because of translation from greek to other languages
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk Islam is not an abrahamic religion. It's a worship of the ancient egyptian moongod Yah if you study it well enough. That's why somewhat every islamic country has a crescent moon and a star on its flag.
The Qur'an is not to be compared with other religions, the Qur'an is the only one of its kind that provoces hatres amoungst believers and unbelievers.
They differ alot. The Qur'an was written by a dictation of pedophilic illerate Mohammed, the Bible by God's divine intervention.
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk The Bible's translation has been carefully overlooked at during translations and other types of ''re-examination''. The current best translation in English, that preserved the native English language, is the King James Version, which was untouched after its last translation during the year 1600.
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
An Idol is defined as a ''false God''.
Yeshua isn't a ''false God'' according to us.
.
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
@TheLightedDarkness well he was in flesh.. so its a bit confusing.. in the bible it never directly says jesus is god.. i think it was interpreted that way by many scholars later on.. it doe snot need to be that he was god in the story nor does it really break anything if he wasnt... it was still a symbolic sacrifice and freedom from sin as they knew it.. many think that means people should sin now.. that is just not true and never said it was in the bible.. again i am not even religious nor chr
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk he was the " spirit of god" in that way he was " son of man" and he was a sacrifice... i think no one should have to explain this in the idol way .. because i think its a beutiful story even if its jus ta story.. i think it is better to find harmony in things and enjoy them instead of taking things litterally and not learn how to please oneself through pleasing GOD.. god wants our best... and nothing more
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
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TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
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@TheRogueMonk He was in flesh, but He is the G'd, he's not a false G'd/Idol.
John 1:1-2 /John 1:1-14/ John 1:17 1.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with G'd, and the Word was G'd.
The same was in the beginning with G'd.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Jesus = The Word = G'd
TheLightedDarkness 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk of course not.... word of god is not god... its the will of god
god made a man that acts out his words... only some people came and thought that meant that he was godgod can not be in two places at the same time.. god is eternal and complete and whole he can not be in pieces... if god was for one second to leave his possition and be in flesh .. he would have to be in parts and also stop tending to life...
jesus even prayed to god.. there is evidence he did.. so he can not be god
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk of course to me its all stories i dont take any of the stories litteral anyway but i think even so there is a distinktion about what is the word and the will of god and what is god in the pure sense of god...
even tere is evidence that jesus asked god to do miracles with him or for him.. so jesus can not be god...
jesus told people tobeleive in god and talked about god .. then he can not be god for he can not refer to himself in third person ..
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk jesus clearly says one time believe in god then in same times says believe in god..
he does not say if you believe in me you can ove mountains .. he saysif you beleive in god...
he admires god and says god is all great.. ones he says " i will tell my father in heaven"
god can not be his own son.. nor can god admire another god... nor can god advertise any other god.. but jesus did..
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk When we say freedom from sin or gods forgiveness it is so people can obay the law with grace not with fear or with weakness but with streanght that they know every second is a new chance and that everyone need time to learn to obay. .. and that there is never too late everyoen can through their spirit enjoy a reichous life without strictly being a pure pure golden person.
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
@TheRogueMonk it is important in life to "sin" because everything is a learning curve no one can not sin completely ... to sin is just another form of learning... imagine if no one sinned then large portion of gods life would never been experienced ... people need to " sin" so that they can grow and mature.. then they have to strive to not sin at the same time to help themselves out of it.. its a part of the process of evolving as an intelligent human being.. it is not healthy to otehrweise
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
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TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
and again i think that is what it means tobe free from sin .. is to be allowed to sin in order to learn and strive at the same time not to...
i doubt people who truly understand gods message does want to be saved just to sin again... people just want to be saved so that they can have a chance of learning how to not sin.
if everyman was presumed to be sinful then they would never be able to achieve anything because no matter what they would still short fall from gods grace
TheRogueMonk 5 months ago
Great Video ♥
855842 7 months ago
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Thank you brother, and thank you for your friendship invitation.
helasmoh 7 months ago
Salam!
Brilliant and reasonable inside on issue.peace
orgolioitalia1 7 months ago
@orgolioitalia1
Peace on you too brother, thank you.
helasmoh 7 months ago