one of the proofs that Holy Quran has never been changed

[DonKilluminati14]

@rumayadav your wrong the people of the prophets time followed him with their whole hearts.

[DonKilluminati14]

@forestinfullbloom you have no evidence! Lets say you were right ok. The bible has been altered changed and whole verses lost throughout history. Not to mention the amount of authors it has had. This is taught in schools (GCSE RELIGIOUS EDUCATION) everywhere you simply made ur statement up

[forestinfullbloom]

Muhammad had scribes write his revelations down for him. One scribe was `Abdullah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh. As Sarh wrote these revelations down, he frequently made suggestions on improving their wording. Muhammad often agreed and allowed the changes to be made. Eventually, Sarh left Islam, knowing it could not be from God if a mere scribe were allowed to change God's word. Later, after the conquest of Mecca, Muhammad ordered Sarh's death

[x0xBlueWorldx0x]

I respect the Quran but i believe it has been changed , the bible has been changed and its from god , so who says the quran hasnt been changed

[prototype00000]

@x0xBlueWorldx0x

the quran really cannot be changed as there are so many hundreds and thousands of people who know it memorised word for word letter for letter literally.

so with memorisation it can never be altered, its impossible as altering written books will make no difference. god promised in there it will be protected.

[aleinsteinizmi]

@prototype00000 My friend but did you know that there are different styles of recitation accepted by muslims and they do differ slightly according to what I've personally heard.. And there are some qur'ans that their isnaad is considered weak.. just like weak hadeeth etc.. By the way I am not a christian and I don't think the bible is the word of god.

[prototype00000]

@aleinsteinizmi

they all say the exact same thing in arabic so it comes down to being different in terms of pronunciation. the quran remains original and unaltered

[aleinsteinizmi]

@prototype00000

Well I haven't reserached this yet but I have seen a word that is totally different in warsh style than hafs. I mean they totally have different meaning.. I will try to read the first 3 chapters and see if there are any differences.

[kasim8t3]

@x0xBlueWorldx0x thats why the quran was brought about. protected this time!

[farhan19521987]

MASHALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH



[MRmikechips1]

i don't know why i like this man

[WhyN0TChristianity]

@MRmikechips1 Peace

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[MRmikechips1]

@WhyN0TChristianity

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[st4ticblu3]

From what I have learned. The oldest copy of the Quran contains no vowels. Leaving some words open for interpretation. I have also seen some where the publisher would add to the Quran (using parenthesis).

[ddamos00]

TO All My ISLAMIC PEOPLE

Check Out YouTube video Titled: "Is the Quran corrupted?"

It's from 1nemind

It is very good and makes a lot of sense!

[Taurion4467]

@ddamos00 yes true that amazing video all muslims should see this at 1nemind

[ddamos00]

TO All my ISLAMIC people

Check Out YouTube video Titled: "Is the Quran corrupted?"

It's from 1nemind

It is very good and makes a lot of sense!

[rumayadav]

even if quran has not changed, it has not been able to create one genuine Muslim (one that follows every command of God) after the prophet.

[klubban123]

@rumayadav You have been given great knowledge I see.

[hamzazairi]

achilleus11,i lovee u brother,

[gangsta4life1256]

can someone tell me about the rashad khalifa's quran? apparently he deleted that last 2 verses of surah tawbah. so can we call his copy the false quran or what? his fallowers are not even call muslims they are called "submitters" and his relegion is called "submission" he claims himself to be a prophet, Allah's curse be on him

[Quraniswisdom]

@gangsta4life1256 I suggest to you that you mind in the life of gang instead of talking about things you have absolutely no idea and they are definitly untrue.

[achilleus11]

You can check them for yourself ^^.

just ask yourself when you are reading the bible next time : how do i know that i have the right VERSION.

How do i know when i am reading gods word, or a fabrication by man.

[achilleus11]

so plz stop with your foolish act come with some evidence before you open your mouth.

like i said maybe you fool your gullable christians but not muslims.

[truthforchrist]

The reason I can't "fool" a muslim is because of all the religions in the world, they are BY FAR the most brainwashed, closeminded and ignorant....and you prove that.

So I guess you can't prove your claim. All you did was show differences in an english translation. I also showed differences in an english translation of the koran.

You failed, time and time again to show me differences in the orignal language.

Why don't you just be a man and admit that you are wrong?

[achilleus11]

Lol sure...... when you go to a imam and you say why is the bible corrupt. he will answer go read it.

When you go to a priest and ask why is the Quran corrupy he would say: DONT TOUCH IT!

I cant prove my Claim ? i gave you for every argument i made about your bible a CHRISTIAN website where you could see for yourself.

[achilleus11]

you didnt show me any diffence( missing verses missing chapters ), you lied and misquoted shaik sarwar.(i gave you the website where you could see it, so i can see how desprate you really are)

you couldnt come up with some proof to back up your argument.

you just say something and exspect me to believe it.

I gave you the diffrences between the catholiek bible and the protestant bible.(protestant has 7 less books).

i gave you the diffrence between king J version, NIV and RIV.

[achilleus11]

alot of verses thrown out in the RIV for example.

and at the end of the bible you can read why they throwed those verses out.

they give a explanetion, like : the verse was a fabrication, interpolation, it was added up later by man, bla bla bla.

but in the other version of the bible they has those verses and they so NO it is not a interpolation, it is the word of god.

biblegateway . c om

satansdeception . c om / verses(not a christian website)

jesus-is-lord . co m / nivdelet .h tm

[truthforchrist]

There you have it folks. I just used the same standards that achillues11 used, and instead of refuting me, he resotred to personal insults. That is a sure fire way to know that someone lost an arguement.

And thank you for showing me a 3rd VERSION of the koran.

So, now you can be an adult about this and stop confusing versions with translations, or you can keep looking like a fool.

[achilleus11]

Once again i dare you to give me those 2 diffrent greek koine texts. there must be atleast 5 years between them so i can show you how much ppl changed things in between 5 years.

i really cant imagine how you can show your face again after how hard you got refuted with your previous argument ^^. but just try to put that a side and try to take my challange. you cant fool muslims with your lies maybe your gulleble christians but not muslims.

[achilleus11]

lol you stupid idiot.

first of all Sura 59: verse 9 is not one sentence .

second you Quoted Shaykh Sarwar WRONG ^^(it just shows how desperate and pathetic you christians really are).

You can find his translation here al-quran . in fo

scroll down below chose his name and see the translation.

and of Yahiya Emerick he has only(check his website) :The Holy Qur'an for Children.

and: Complete Idiot's Guide to Understanding Islam

which one do you have ? XD?????? omg how hard you got refuted .

[achilleus11]

Shaykh Sarwar. read the whole verse IDIOT.

59:9 Those who established a community center and embraced the faith before the arrival of the immigrants love those who have come to their town. They are not jealous of what is given to the immigrants. They give preference to them over themselves - even concerning the things that they themselves urgently need. Whoever controls his greed will have everlasting happiness.

[truthforchrist]

There you go. There are now 3 different versions of the koran. What you just typed is different from the 2 other versions I just posted.

[achilleus11]

Let me put it simple yusuf ali TRANSLATION

Shaykh Sarwa TRANSLATION. you have the translation and the the arabic besides it.

exact same verses exact same chapters.

With the bible you have the KING JAMES VERSION, REVISED STANDARD VERSION.

not the exact same verses and chapters. Revised standard version has 25 less verses then the king james version.

WHERE ARE THOSE 25 verses ? why are they thrown out ?

Pathetic fool answer that. does that not go into your brains ?

[truthforchrist]

If the king james Bible has 25 less versus, then the TRANSLATORS did a terrible job. Also, the King James Bible comes from a Latin TRANSLATION, and not the original Koine Greek.

If you can't find me 2 different Koine Greek New Testaments, then shut the hell up. I gave you a challange, and you failed each time. Now, go to the original, UNTRANSLATED Koine Greek text and find me 2 different NTs.

What are you not understanding?

[achilleus11]

Buddy it was your job to find me 2 diffrent koine translations and i would show you the diffrence between them. but you are 2 big of a coward to accept that.

it is not the mather of translation IDIOT.

if you read for example the revised standard version they show you WHY they left the verses out. THEy say the verses were fabrications, interpolations.

but the king james version has those verses. they say NO it is the word of god not a fabrication.

so which one is it? which version is correct?

[truthforchrist]

It's not my job....I told *YOU* to find me 2 different Koine Greek NTs. You still have yet to do it. I know there are differences in a translated copy of the NT. Just like there are differences in 2 translations of the koran.

So, I ask you again. Find me 2 untranslated Koine Greek New Testaments that have different versus.

You can't win my challange, so you respond with personal attacks. That shows your maturity level.

[achilleus11]

You talk about those koine greek testament so i exspect you show it to me.

The Quran has the exact same verses and exact same chapters, you got refuted very hard when you said no it hasnt. i really am amazed how shameless you are to bring it again.

YOU cant bring any evidence to your claim, you just say it and you want me to believe it ^^! my god my god how foolish you are.

I gave you CHRISTIAN websites where you can check for yourself THE VERSIONS/The diffrences of the bible.

[achilleus11]

and show me those koine text which i asked for. even it is in greek, i am not so ignorant as you buddy.

[achilleus11]

OMG XD you look so cute and desperate .

plz if you lie try to do it a bit good, because this is really Foolish . Give me the proof, show me where did you get it from.

here i give you mine proof where you can see for yourself the VERSIONS of the bible and compare the verses which i stated with the versions that i stated and see the diffrence ^^.

biblegateway . co m

i give you the proof ^^. i like you to do the same. i cant just simply believe it because some fool says so^^

[truthforchrist]

TO Archilleus11:

Koran version 1, translated by Yahiya Emerick 59:9

Those who are saved from the greed of their selves, the are the ones who prosper.

Koran version 2, translated by Shaykh Sarwar 59:9

Muhammad warned people about greed.

I guess that means they are 2 different versions. In one version, Allah is talking, in the other version, muhammad is talking, and while they are both on the same subject, they say VASTLY different things.

[achilleus11]

lol

[achilleus11]

I gave you so many examples where your bible AUTHORS are just throwing out verses. AND if you ask them why, they say: that verse was an fabrication, interpolation, it didnt belong there, it was made up, thats why we throwed it away.

They delete whole verses! but those deleted verses are present in other bibles. at the end of the day you never know when you are reading gods word or a fabrication.

[truthforchrist]

Face.palm.slap.

What are you still not understanding about original language versus an english translation? The only examples you gave me were from a translation.

I'll make you a deal. Go to 2 different koine Greek New Testaments and see if there are verses missing.

I'll give you a hint...I'm looking at the Koine Greek text now, so I do know the answer.

As I said, if you want to use an english translation of the Bible, then I can use one of the koran to prove my point also.

[achilleus11]

quote:Face.palm.slap.(lol what?)

Oke i make you a deal find me 2 diffrent koine greek manuscripts. between them must be atleast 5 years. then i show you how much you christians have changed in the manuscripts ^^ in between 5 years.

I am not using in case of the Bible a translation but a VERSION.

and you cant do that in the case of Quran. i dare you to do that and to prove to me ^^ !

[truthforchrist]

You can't even read koine Greek, so how are you going to find me 2 different Koine Greek New Testaments?

And fine, I will use an english koran and prove to you that they are different versions. I will use the same highly flawed logic you are useing.

[achilleus11]

the RSV has thrown that verses out. and the NIV has added verses WHICH the RSV doesnt have.

it is not just the mater of translation.

a nother example; In Acts 8:37, the King James reads, "And Philip said, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV reads-NOTHING! THEY TOOK THE WHOLE VERSE OUT! One of the best verses in the Bible on salvation through Jesus Christ and they rip it out!

[truthforchrist]

Also, to achillues11, don't attempt to come at with with you sever lack of knowledge of Biblical Manuscripts. You say that I am funny, but you just showed that you never studed any of this.

Over 99% of all variants in Biblical Manuscripts are nothing more than a spelling error. That is not considered a "change". Less than 1% of the New Testament has been "changed". The errors are spelling, or a missing word, and they have nothing to do with the message of the text.

[lalbhai80]

great speech.

keep it up bro.

[DaBombastic7]

Anybody can memorize verses in Quran. God promise to preserve His words.

but it is not possible with Bible.

[truthforchrist]

Pray tell, why can't people memorize versus in the Bible? I have many versus memorized and millions of Christians do as well.

[achilleus11]

why cant ppl memorize verses from the bible you say ? because you dont know what the bible is :)

every single one of you has a diffrent version of the bible.

[truthforchrist]

When you go to the original Koine Greek and Hebrew, the Bible is the same.

There are many different *TRANSLATIONS* of the Bible, just like there are many translations of the koran.

What are all these "other" Bibles?

Don't confuse translations with entirly different Bibles.

P.S. I love how a Christian, for no other reason than being a Christian, gets a "thumbs down" rateing. It shows the character of the people who watch this video.

[achilleus11]

lol omg you are so funny XD i almost fell from my chair.

Oke Gullable christian let me educate you:

There are around 40,000 diffrent manuscripts of the bible (sources) and not one manuscript is exactly the same as the other. and you can see some of the manuscripts have been changed because some1 changed a word or added a sentense. some of them are changed with later inkt .

The message goes on.......

[achilleus11]

to most common example of the versions of the bible is: the katholiek version of the bible has 7 more books than the protestant version of the bible .

a nother example the new international version has the verses : John 1:1(in the begining there was god, god became the word..)

but the revised standard version of the bible is that verse thrown out ( they say is a fabrication, interpolation) there are many more examples. it is not just diffrent "translation" it is a diffrent VERSION.

[truthforchrist]

It's painfully obvious that you have never studied Biblical Manuscripts. Every single book written before the printing press (there are no exceptions) have variants. However, an offical Bible was compiled by the Apostles Church. Every other Bible is not offical.

When you say "katholiek", do you mean Catholic? The Catholic and Orthodox Bible are the Bible that was agreed upon.

And what you just mentioned (RSV and NIV) are TRANSLATIONS. What are you not understanding?

More above

[achilleus11]

Lol i say in your page where you did your studies by mister jay smith.

HE IS such a FOOL ! for 15 years the poor guy is desperate to get his Phd. but every single time he fails. believe me even a donkey will do it after 15 times :)

Then you have to explain what kind of translation is it ? the protestant VERSION has 66 books while the catholic version has 73.

And i gave you also examples of the RSV and NIV. the NIV has verses which the RSV DOESNT HAVE.

more above

[truthforchrist]

Who is Jay Smith?

When it comes to the Protestant Bible....they broke away from the Catholic Church. They invented their own theology and doctrine. If you go to a Koine Greek NT and a Hebrew OT, you will see only 1 Bible. I'm not Catholic, but the Catholic is not to blame for what the Protestants did.

Also, you are useing TRANSLATIONS to show your point of different verses. I can go to an english koran and find different verses among english translations also.

[achilleus11]

lol that guy with the video is the Quran gods word in your profile , damn he is so funny XD.

Just one question where do you that the V in the NIV stands for ? translation , or VERSION? And no buddy in the Quran you have the English translation and below or next the arabic. We have the exact same verses exact same chapters, onley not the exact same words that depends on the translator how he translates things. he may call ppl like you a fool or a idiot thats his choice.

[truthforchrist]

Neither of my english korans have the arabic next to the english. It doesn't matter since I can't read arabic, so I would no idea how faithful the translation is anyway. The point is, I have 2 korans, with differen't versus completely, not just a different word.

[achilleus11]

Then it isnt The Quran if it hasnt the arabic tekst beside it :) you cannot call it the Quran. it is an atempt.

Quote: I have 2 korans, with differen't versus completely, not just a different word.(end)

PROVE IT !

Lol big lie buddy big lie XD if you can prove that i will really shut my mouth .

if you cannot refute my points dont go over to lies. it is just so pathetic and such a christian thing to do .

[truthforchrist]

You're a prick. You say "such a Christain thing to do". That shows your character. You have just proven that your only intent was talk shit about a religion you don't believe in. There is no point in talking to you.

You didn't show any evidence to support your claim, you just kept going around in circles even after I showed you the flaw in your logic.

I'm done with you.

[achilleus11]

Goodmorning,

Qoute: You didn't show any evidence to support your claim.(end)

i gave you every time the version name, the verse, and the chapter so you could check for yourself. and it was you wouldnt give me proof and danced around the bush. i dared you to prove something and now you are running away and you say there is a flaw in my logic .......................... oke..............

byebye and goodluck

[truthforchrist]

WOAH! That is just plain wrong what he said about the Bible. There is NOT 43 different Bibles.  And we can (and do) re-create the entire Bible with manuscripts and church letters.

No one should trust this guy at all. He just said a complete lie about Christianity.

[triplen3]

How many are there then??

[truthforchrist]

I'm guessing you mean "How many different Bibles are there"?

If that is what you mean, there is 1 New Testament authorised by the Church, and there is 1 offical Old Testament, however, things get a bit more complicated when talking about the OT.

[triplen3]

i mean how many different versions are there?? such as Revised Standard Version, New International Version, King James Version, etc... some bibles have 66 books some have 73. some bibles have certian versus some throw them out. and some say other bibles have many faults in them, so they corrected them. Christian Scholars are the ones claiming there are many different Bibles and they are right.

[truthforchrist]

The NIV, NSRB, RSV ect...those are all TRANSLATIONS, not different Bibles.

Like I said, there is only 1 authoritive NT and OT. However, like I said, the OT gets considerably more complicated.

[triplen3]

TRANSLATIONS DO NOT take complete books or versus out of a any book.

[truthforchrist]

Then please explain why my 2 english copies of the koran have different versus?

Everything you mentioned above are english translations, not different Bibles.

[triplen3]

Seriously read wht I wrote!!

the versus are there in the Quran even in the english translation of the Quran, but that is only a translation of the Quran that is in Arabic.

The Bible has different books in one that arent in the other, it has versus that are not in another (ex: it goes from verse 1 2 3 4 5 in one bible and 1 2 5 in another)

If you cant understand this plain english its pointless to argue with you.

And the thing is this is Christian scholars and historians saying this!

[truthforchrist]

I did read what you wrote. Everything you mentioned is a translation. What are you not understanding?

Name me 2 KOINE GREEK New Testaments that have different versus and in different orders.

If you can do that, then we will continue to talk.

[Albania4ever]

These is a proof...exellent

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