What the Oracle monk is explaining is totally valid. From my own personal experience level, I completely agree with him. It is the purity, sincerity, and unshakable faith in the Buddha Nature of the Mind that cause healing power to happen.
In short, good thoughts will result in good health and happiness. Evil thoughts will destroy the mind (and the person) that gives rise to those evil thoughts. No one under this sky can ever escape the law of Karma!
I don't get it I just don't get it. What is wrong with these Tibetan people??? You can rely upon Nechung who is in fact an evil spirit by origin and can even say in time he will change? Yet for Dorje Shugden, there is no chance he will change, that's assuming he is even an evil spirit.
So base on such statements... I think the Tibetans are confuse and Dharma has degenerated!
Talk about Satanic worshippers, even they are not Banned from going to Dalai Lama's teachings. But Dorje Shugden practitioners are Banned???? Hu? Hillarious!
Just out right religious discrimination. Try banning any other religion or sect from coming to the Dalai Lama's teachings and see what happens.
Everyone knows that Nechung was an evil spirit that has given many wrong answers before.
Nechung gave much advice to Dalai Lama that came out wrong. During Kalacakra in bodhgaya he told Dalai Lama to tell everyone that within 5 years, Tibet will gain it's full freedom & the Dalai Lama will return to Lhasa.
If Dalai Lama's Guru can be wrong, the Dalai Lama can be wrong too, well he said he was wrong about Dorje Shugden, and I suppose He could be wrong again?
So who are we to believe if Guru's can be wrong? Better not have a Guru or believe in anything, soon we'll even say the Buddhas are wrong. Ooops sorry.
Who did Dorje Shugden harm? I've not heard or seen any evidence that he harms anyone, not even his loudest critics. In fact, i heard that his Minister, Kache Marpo, wanted to intercede when the critics were getting too much, but Dorje Shugden bound him not to do so.
Dalai lama wants a democratic system for Tibetans.
Yet what democratic leader would say that a certain group may not join his public talks due to their religious orientation?
Imagine if Obama said all jews cannot attend his public talks because they don't accept Christ? That could never happen.
So If Dalai lama wishes to emulate G-7 democratic leadership, he has to stop ostracizing anyone even if they practice Dorje Shugden. Ghost or not..simple.
Now HH Gaden Trisur's is openly saying he PRACTICE DORJE SHUGDEN hence moved to Shar Gaden. Hes no ordinary monk but a high Lama, the obvious is understood; Shugden is not a spirit!
Many high Lamas till this day practice Shugden and more will step out. There must be a bigger reason behind all this controversial Publicity created. By HHDL saying NO to DS, He's infact asking people to choose Guru Devotion / Samsara Politics. Yes maybe our Dharma is put to the test???
Seriously why do they rely on Nechug who is a worldly spirit but not Dorje Shugden? And is it not Nechug who requested for Dragpa Gyeltsen to become a protector Dorje Shugden to to protect the Dharma? You can read the history at dorje shugden (dot) com. So isn't it better to rely on a protector that is for the Dharma? Perhaps they can consult with Dorje Shugden on Tibet's cause? No harm in trying if the cause is really to help Tibetans ...
Yes, Nechung is powerful and he does not have to do anything or prove anything. He's watching over us. I suppose there's a reason for what has happened to Tibet but in time it will recover. PATIENCE! It could be a test.
The state protector Nechung is unable to help the Dalai Lama gain autonomy or freedom for Tibet.
The Tibetan Govt should invoke the Dorje Shugden protector, apologize and ask his help and seek his advice.
Dorje Shugden is a very powerful being that can be a great ally, friend and help to the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama needs all the friends he can get both human and non-human.
Pelden Hlamo, Kalarupa, Mahakala are fierce, with bloodshot eyes, wearing bone ornaments, trampling or riding over blood, humans, gods and the like. They are near naked, dark in color and have fangs.
Many countries, religions and ignorant ppl would consider them evil or demonic in nature.
Certainly they take on that appearance. So why should we be shocked if some ppl believe Dorje Shugden to be not sacred and holy?
Just continue your practice what you feel is right for YOU.
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ACCORDING TO HH DALAI LAMA, WE MAY NOT PLACE ANY IMAGES OF NECHUNG ON OUR ALTERS BECAUSE HE IS not enlightened. HE MUST BE KEPT SEPERATELY. IT WILL DEGRADE OUR REFUGE IF WE KEEP HIM ON OUR ALTERS.
No democratic leader in the world today would condemn or stop any form of religious worship.
Even the Pope dare not speak against other religions anymore.
Today's world leaders must show acceptance and tolerance of all forms of worship even the worship of Dorje Shugden.
The Dharamsala Tibetan Govt only has a few years left and they are on the decline. Their existence depends on Dalai Lama. Once he passes,THEY ARE FINISHED.
I advise them to stop all this anti shugden rhetoric.
The Great Dharmapala Nechung is not a enlighted Protector he was a demon subject by Guru Rinpoche now 1,000 years this does not mean that he is still a demon, but a secular Dharmapala half demon half god.
gee, relax..as we all know in budhism MANY evil spirits have been tamed by guru Padmasambhava for example and they became DHARMA PROTECTORS...why this rage about nechung?im notsaying he's dharma protector, but since he's sworn, he;s ok. relax!
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Nechung is a Pre-Buddhist EVIL SPIRIT of Tibet that originally came from Iran.He is a
evil spirit that tried his best to stop Buddhism from coming to Tibet from India. See 'Exile From the Land of Snows' by John Avedon, the Chapter called 'Wheel of protection' to see full history of Nechung's evil nature. Because he was evil he needed to be tamed by guru rinpoche. Because he has created tremendous negative karma,he was bound and HAS TO PURIFY HIS KARMA. PURIFY MEANS HE HAS MUCH NEGATIVE KARMA.
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Worship of Nechung as a dharma protector contradicts buddhist teachings as he is a evil spirit subdued by guru rinpoche. Even though subdued, he is a worldly evil spirit and cannot be kept on our alters to pray. Must be very careful. He was mentioned by many high lamas that he is inaccurate and dangerous to propitiate. His oracular pronouncements have to be taken carefully as he has made many mistakes in the past. Bottom line, dont worship worldy gods is the best.
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The spirit Nechung is evil and unenlightened. Why does the Tibetan Govt use him to fortell the future. Many decisions are made based on him entering a medium and speaking. Why dont we take refuge in Buddha and rely on him. Why evil spirit Nechung??
The state oracle of Tibet (nechung) is an evil spirit sworn to help. But his origins are originally evil. NO Buddhist is allowed to take refuge in him, or pray to him or even keep him on the alter together with images of enlightened beings such as Buddha shakyamuni...so the question is, why then is he so propitiated to the point of worship within the tibetan exile govt till now.
He has made many predictions regarding tibet getting it's freedom and it is still not free. What happened?
The state oracle of Tibet (nechung) is an evil spirit sworn to help. But his origins are originally evil. NO Buddhist is allowed to take refuge in him, or pray to him or even keep him on the alter together with images of enlightened beings such as Buddha shakyamuni...so the question is, why then is he so propitiated to the point of worship within the tibetan exile govt till now.
He has made many predictions regarding tibet getting it's freedom and it is still not free. What happened?
The state oracle of Tibet (nechung) is an evil spirit sworn to help. But his origins are originally evil. NO Buddhist is allowed to take refuge in him, or pray to him or even keep him on the alter together with images of enlightened beings such as Buddha shakyamuni...so the question is, why then is he so propitiated to the point of worship within the tibetan exile govt till now.
He has made many predictions regarding tibet getting it's freedom and it is still not free. What happened?
partly right Nechung WAS a demon but was subjugated by The Great Guru Padmasambhava centuries ago made him responsible for the protection of Tibet Since then under the the guidance of Guru Padmasambhava he has been steadily progressing in his spirituality and as such today he is considered to have reached the 10th level of Bodhisattvahood.i pray and hope that one day this demon of yours himself will subdue your demonic ego and make you the protector of all sentient beings.
Tibetans, like great Shamans, understand torsion waves and the torsion field. There is no mumbo-jumbo here. Just applied science. Check out N.A. Kozyrev's works.
you claim to be a saint yet a saint love nor hates. Your statement is hateful. These are your brothers like I am and you are to me. Jesus taught that. Jesus said: love everybody with no exception. Hate brings hate, love brings love.
What the Oracle monk is explaining is totally valid. From my own personal experience level, I completely agree with him. It is the purity, sincerity, and unshakable faith in the Buddha Nature of the Mind that cause healing power to happen.
In short, good thoughts will result in good health and happiness. Evil thoughts will destroy the mind (and the person) that gives rise to those evil thoughts. No one under this sky can ever escape the law of Karma!
hoangkybactien 1 year ago 3
I don't get it I just don't get it. What is wrong with these Tibetan people??? You can rely upon Nechung who is in fact an evil spirit by origin and can even say in time he will change? Yet for Dorje Shugden, there is no chance he will change, that's assuming he is even an evil spirit.
So base on such statements... I think the Tibetans are confuse and Dharma has degenerated!
dragonthunder2010 1 year ago
@dragonthunder2010
Nechung is oath -bound. Before you call Tibetans confused, learn about Tibetan Buddhism.
Varavaken 1 year ago 2
Follow no man. Follow god within. Learn best wisdom from all spiritual teachings.
lumeriam 1 year ago
Talk about Satanic worshippers, even they are not Banned from going to Dalai Lama's teachings. But Dorje Shugden practitioners are Banned???? Hu? Hillarious!
Just out right religious discrimination. Try banning any other religion or sect from coming to the Dalai Lama's teachings and see what happens.
Somehow this does not seem democratic at all.
dragonthunder2010 1 year ago
@dragonthunder2010
Shugden activists are known to kill their opponents. The triple murderers got away with it. China is a powerful friend.
Varavaken 1 year ago
Everyone knows that Nechung was an evil spirit that has given many wrong answers before.
Nechung gave much advice to Dalai Lama that came out wrong. During Kalacakra in bodhgaya he told Dalai Lama to tell everyone that within 5 years, Tibet will gain it's full freedom & the Dalai Lama will return to Lhasa.
Well what happened?? Wrong again??? Ooops!
dragonthunder2010 1 year ago
If Dalai Lama's Guru can be wrong, the Dalai Lama can be wrong too, well he said he was wrong about Dorje Shugden, and I suppose He could be wrong again?
So who are we to believe if Guru's can be wrong? Better not have a Guru or believe in anything, soon we'll even say the Buddhas are wrong. Ooops sorry.
Then why believe in Buddha?
dragonthunder2010 1 year ago
@dragonthunder2010 If we believe in nothing it may bring us closer to god within...but does not make Buddha wrong, or Dalia Lama.
lumeriam 1 year ago
@dragonthunder2010
You do like the pro-Chinese Trimondi couple, don´t you? I know about their personal crusade against the Dalai Lama and against Tibetan Buddhism.
Who says that you have to be a Buddhist? You are neither a Buddhist nor a Shugden follower. Stop pretending.
Varavaken 1 year ago
The Dalai Lama can use Nechung who is a worldly spirit and evil in origin, what does that say about Buddhism?
Since he can propitiate and encourage others toward Nechung, then he should not talk against Lord Dorje Shugden.
Dorje Shugden is the protector of Dalai lama's root teacher and lineage teachers. How can Dalai Lama's own gurus be wrong?
dragonthunder2010 1 year ago
@dragonthunder2010
Nobody has ever used Nechung to harm others.
The Shugden´s purpose is clear and well known in both Gelug and non Gelug schools.
Varavaken 1 year ago
chinese disinfo people commenting on youtube videos are lame. long live Nechung!!!
rosgyal 1 year ago
Who did Dorje Shugden harm? I've not heard or seen any evidence that he harms anyone, not even his loudest critics. In fact, i heard that his Minister, Kache Marpo, wanted to intercede when the critics were getting too much, but Dorje Shugden bound him not to do so.
wisdombeing 2 years ago
Dalai lama wants a democratic system for Tibetans.
Yet what democratic leader would say that a certain group may not join his public talks due to their religious orientation?
Imagine if Obama said all jews cannot attend his public talks because they don't accept Christ? That could never happen.
So If Dalai lama wishes to emulate G-7 democratic leadership, he has to stop ostracizing anyone even if they practice Dorje Shugden. Ghost or not..simple.
Democracy for all!
truth1888 2 years ago
Now HH Gaden Trisur's is openly saying he PRACTICE DORJE SHUGDEN hence moved to Shar Gaden. Hes no ordinary monk but a high Lama, the obvious is understood; Shugden is not a spirit!
Many high Lamas till this day practice Shugden and more will step out. There must be a bigger reason behind all this controversial Publicity created. By HHDL saying NO to DS, He's infact asking people to choose Guru Devotion / Samsara Politics. Yes maybe our Dharma is put to the test???
thepurpleaster 2 years ago
Seriously why do they rely on Nechug who is a worldly spirit but not Dorje Shugden? And is it not Nechug who requested for Dragpa Gyeltsen to become a protector Dorje Shugden to to protect the Dharma? You can read the history at dorje shugden (dot) com. So isn't it better to rely on a protector that is for the Dharma? Perhaps they can consult with Dorje Shugden on Tibet's cause? No harm in trying if the cause is really to help Tibetans ...
thepurpleaster 2 years ago
Yes, Nechung is powerful and he does not have to do anything or prove anything. He's watching over us. I suppose there's a reason for what has happened to Tibet but in time it will recover. PATIENCE! It could be a test.
kokoliam59 2 years ago
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The state protector Nechung is unable to help the Dalai Lama gain autonomy or freedom for Tibet.
The Tibetan Govt should invoke the Dorje Shugden protector, apologize and ask his help and seek his advice.
Dorje Shugden is a very powerful being that can be a great ally, friend and help to the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama needs all the friends he can get both human and non-human.
truth1888 2 years ago 2
Yes, we tibetans!!
truth1888 2 years ago
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Pelden Hlamo, Kalarupa, Mahakala are fierce, with bloodshot eyes, wearing bone ornaments, trampling or riding over blood, humans, gods and the like. They are near naked, dark in color and have fangs.
Many countries, religions and ignorant ppl would consider them evil or demonic in nature.
Certainly they take on that appearance. So why should we be shocked if some ppl believe Dorje Shugden to be not sacred and holy?
Just continue your practice what you feel is right for YOU.
truth1888 2 years ago
truth1888
we tibetan youths?
sorry but you cant be a tibetan, so no pretending to be someone esle..
lhagyalo 2 years ago
If Nechung has so much power, then Tibet would be Free by now.
If Nechung is so powerful, then Tibet would have never lost Tibet to China in the first place.
Since Nechung is the state protector of Tibet and it's govt, he didn't do a good job to protect Tibet at all.
Dalai lama is already in his 70's and there is no sign of Tibetan Freedom.
We Tibetan youths are tired of waiting and do not believe in Nechung and his supposed power.
After Dalai Lama dies, bye bye to Tibet.
truth1888 2 years ago
If the Dalai Lama can use Nechung who is a worldly spirit and evil in origin, what level does that bring Buddhism to ??
Since he can propititiate and encourage others toward Nechung, he should not speak about Lord Dorje Shugden.
Dorje Shugden is the protector of Dalai lama's root teacher and lineage teachers. How can Dalai Lama's own gurus be wrong?
Even Ling Rinpoche has composed serkym to Dorje Shugden.
So If Dalai Lama Teacher worships Shugden, then Shugden is perfectly fine.
truth1888 2 years ago
he is really good at explaining things.
dabeisyin 2 years ago
how many people did you cure?
Did Buddha ever get in such a trance?
Where is the scientific part in mediumship?
ruzickaw 2 years ago
Free Tibet
I LOVE Tibet
Peace of the World
Let's stop killing world all of you.
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sageunr 2 years ago
ACCORDING TO HH DALAI LAMA, WE MAY NOT PLACE ANY IMAGES OF NECHUNG ON OUR ALTERS BECAUSE HE IS not enlightened. HE MUST BE KEPT SEPERATELY. IT WILL DEGRADE OUR REFUGE IF WE KEEP HIM ON OUR ALTERS.
iwannaberich2007 2 years ago
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No democratic leader in the world today would condemn or stop any form of religious worship.
Even the Pope dare not speak against other religions anymore.
Today's world leaders must show acceptance and tolerance of all forms of worship even the worship of Dorje Shugden.
The Dharamsala Tibetan Govt only has a few years left and they are on the decline. Their existence depends on Dalai Lama. Once he passes,THEY ARE FINISHED.
I advise them to stop all this anti shugden rhetoric.
iwannaberich2007 2 years ago
The Great Dharmapala Nechung is not a enlighted Protector he was a demon subject by Guru Rinpoche now 1,000 years this does not mean that he is still a demon, but a secular Dharmapala half demon half god.
shanglondeiti 3 years ago
There are many Oracles this is one but there is a master Oricale who is he ? go to my channel or email me.
Yod He Vau He
rnv09 3 years ago
gee, relax..as we all know in budhism MANY evil spirits have been tamed by guru Padmasambhava for example and they became DHARMA PROTECTORS...why this rage about nechung?im notsaying he's dharma protector, but since he's sworn, he;s ok. relax!
taliayu 3 years ago
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Nechung is a Pre-Buddhist EVIL SPIRIT of Tibet that originally came from Iran.He is a
evil spirit that tried his best to stop Buddhism from coming to Tibet from India. See 'Exile From the Land of Snows' by John Avedon, the Chapter called 'Wheel of protection' to see full history of Nechung's evil nature. Because he was evil he needed to be tamed by guru rinpoche. Because he has created tremendous negative karma,he was bound and HAS TO PURIFY HIS KARMA. PURIFY MEANS HE HAS MUCH NEGATIVE KARMA.
iwannaberich2007 4 years ago
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Worship of Nechung as a dharma protector contradicts buddhist teachings as he is a evil spirit subdued by guru rinpoche. Even though subdued, he is a worldly evil spirit and cannot be kept on our alters to pray. Must be very careful. He was mentioned by many high lamas that he is inaccurate and dangerous to propitiate. His oracular pronouncements have to be taken carefully as he has made many mistakes in the past. Bottom line, dont worship worldy gods is the best.
frozbyte23 4 years ago
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The spirit Nechung is evil and unenlightened. Why does the Tibetan Govt use him to fortell the future. Many decisions are made based on him entering a medium and speaking. Why dont we take refuge in Buddha and rely on him. Why evil spirit Nechung??
frozbyte23 4 years ago
The mind can change.Nechung was an evil spirit,whit time he will get better.
spartacus24pit 4 years ago
The state oracle of Tibet (nechung) is an evil spirit sworn to help. But his origins are originally evil. NO Buddhist is allowed to take refuge in him, or pray to him or even keep him on the alter together with images of enlightened beings such as Buddha shakyamuni...so the question is, why then is he so propitiated to the point of worship within the tibetan exile govt till now.
He has made many predictions regarding tibet getting it's freedom and it is still not free. What happened?
frozbyte23 4 years ago
Did he predicted the time?
spartacus24pit 4 years ago
The state oracle of Tibet (nechung) is an evil spirit sworn to help. But his origins are originally evil. NO Buddhist is allowed to take refuge in him, or pray to him or even keep him on the alter together with images of enlightened beings such as Buddha shakyamuni...so the question is, why then is he so propitiated to the point of worship within the tibetan exile govt till now.
He has made many predictions regarding tibet getting it's freedom and it is still not free. What happened?
frozbyte23 4 years ago
The state oracle of Tibet (nechung) is an evil spirit sworn to help. But his origins are originally evil. NO Buddhist is allowed to take refuge in him, or pray to him or even keep him on the alter together with images of enlightened beings such as Buddha shakyamuni...so the question is, why then is he so propitiated to the point of worship within the tibetan exile govt till now.
He has made many predictions regarding tibet getting it's freedom and it is still not free. What happened?
frozbyte23 4 years ago
partly right Nechung WAS a demon but was subjugated by The Great Guru Padmasambhava centuries ago made him responsible for the protection of Tibet Since then under the the guidance of Guru Padmasambhava he has been steadily progressing in his spirituality and as such today he is considered to have reached the 10th level of Bodhisattvahood.i pray and hope that one day this demon of yours himself will subdue your demonic ego and make you the protector of all sentient beings.
tsedawa 4 years ago
Tibetans, like great Shamans, understand torsion waves and the torsion field. There is no mumbo-jumbo here. Just applied science. Check out N.A. Kozyrev's works.
mujaku 4 years ago
you claim to be a saint yet a saint love nor hates. Your statement is hateful. These are your brothers like I am and you are to me. Jesus taught that. Jesus said: love everybody with no exception. Hate brings hate, love brings love.
spdlight7 4 years ago
Thank you for this beautiful and important video!
I want to see this on the major news networks.
Sakanta Running Wolf
SakantaRunningWolf 4 years ago
Amazing and very spiritual.
Best wishes to Kushok Wangyal
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