and no friggen way.. i cant believe you said just the same bullshit netinyahu spews in his speeches.. thousands of rockets every day!.. yeah.. right.. uh huh.. im sure thats why israel
looks like a peace of swiss cheese now doesnt it.. thousands! did you even take a second to imagin that? and what? home made/ inferior supposedly iranian rockets too advanced for your missle systems? you need to blockade? how the hell could you compare that to the US blockade with cuba?! a real threat at the time!
@bywukime. What are some things she gets blamed for she has not done? Here are some things Israel has done. Dropped WP and millions on cluster bombs on civilians. Boarded a turkish ship in international waters under the cover of darkness and killed nine people and then claimed she was the victim. Stuck her hand deep in the pocket of the US taxpayer for decades to the tune of over $3 billion per year. Killed Rachel Corrie. Attacked the USS Liberty killing dozens of our sailors.
3:15 im happy that we know the truth today and that shows me that you are a fucking racist idiot ! people died there and you talk like they had been marshmellows.plus how can a bunch of people attack an army trained as good as the israeli one VERY HARD ! i think the only thing that is very hard is the tumor in your brain .
Yeah they're not thinking clearly. The Anti-Zionists are actually Anti-Semitic people full of hate which makes them think not clearly. It makes them biased.
Since the creation of the United Nations in 1945, no country has violated as many UN Security Council Resolutions as the state of Israel. In spite of this fact, Israel, a country slightly smaller than the state of New Jersey, receives nearly 1/3 of the entire annual US Foreign Aid budget. Israel's continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.
Give a break after the commandos attacked the flotilla there was no israeli human casualty and no grenades found you fucking retarted. get your facts right you fucker. Which billions are you talking about?
"Any other country would not have to tolerate rockets being fired into their cities". True! unless, of course, they were maintaining a fundamental claim of entitlement based on silly, fictional Biblical prophecy, or blatantly disregarding over 60 UN resolutions resulting in severe blow back in the form of Arab extremists, or exercising oppressive military rule over innocent, unarmed, inhabitants of a land or purchasing U.S. politicians in order to perpetuate such a charade.
@tubeboy8,Israel is a state that was created by UN vote.
Sily or not,2000 years ago there were 2 Jewish countries in these region Judea and Israel, never has been any other country.
Israel accepted UN decision 242 to return the ocupied land for arab countries in exchange for true Peace and acceptance and did it both with Jordan and Egypt.
When the Palestinians will be able to sit with the Israelies and be honest and brave regarding the peace process you will see they will get their country.
I dont think a claim 2000 years ago can still stand. The holy roman empire (germany pretty much) owned about a quarter of europe about 600 years ago and that doesnt mean we should give chunks of europe to germany.
Also, Native americans had their own nation up until recently in history, and their last great uprising was near the end of the 19th century and yet few americans would advocate giving them texas or some other state for a country.
The Romans exiled the majority of the Jews at 1st century and since then it changed a lot of hands and empires.
While few Jews always presented in this mostly deserted area, Arab tribes came and went, wondering the dessert.
In the 19 century Jews from Europe started to migrate in to this area because they were persecuted in their countries, never accepted as full citizens.
Those Jews came with new agriculture techniques and developed this waste area.
The "2000 years ago" claim is irrelevant anymore because the fact is that Israel as a Jewish state exists and the growth and development of this country in this area cannot be erased.
@SultanTurkish, Palestinians should ask their rights from the Palestinian authority, who they elect in a democratic why.
The Palestinian authority should understand its responsibility toward its people and start negotiating with Israel to establish a country in agreed borders.
The Jewish settlements should not be a problem because they never were build on Palestinian land...no Palestinian person was evicted to build a settlement in Judea & Samaria, they all were build on bare land.
Genesis 41 37? And the thing was good in the eyes of Pharaoh, and in the eyes of all his servants. 38 And Pharaoh said unto his servants: 'Can we find such a one as this, a man in whom the spirit of God is?'
2) When Moses asked him to release the Hebrew slaves:
Exodos 5 2 And Pharaoh said: 'Who is the LORD, that I should hearken unto His voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, and moreover I will not let Israel go.'
Israel Is a peace loving country. All they want is peace. I am a muslim from Jordan. It's just Hamas uses every chance they get to make Israel look like a terrible place. Hamas hides in schools, and other important buildings. I believe that you must wipe out the radicals, to achieve a necessary peace between the innocent peace loving no affiliation to anti semetic Palestinians and the very peace love non anti Palestinian Israelis ( I mean the Israelis who are not that anti Palestinian, I didn't
@thepurplefedoraclan I'm glad to see a Muslim talking like you. It's important to make the world understand that not all Muslims are extremists and hate Israel. And it's important to let people know the vision of a Muslim about Israel. I agree with you... Israel is a peace loving country. I've being there and people are really nice! :)
Alright whatever. Let's just stop licking Israel's asshole. I don't want my taxes going to their military for killing Muslims in our name, with our weapons. Good job making reference to Nazi Germany BTW. How many people have to die in Darfur before we go in and help them, and take land from other people to build them a nation? Obama is dead right, Israel needs to go back to the 1967 borders and stop stealing land from the Palestinians. Hamas is a product of their encroachment. There I said it!
Oh my god your ignorance in regard to the Israel/Palestine conflict is extremely dangerous. Why do you turn a blind eye to genocide Israel is committing against the citizens of Palestine? WikiLeaks reveals that Israel is purposely keeping Palestine on the brink of economic collapse. Wake up.
I know it's easy to confuse genocide with an act of self defense against terrorists, but at leats try to learn he distinction. Your overblown hysteria isn't impressing anyone.
@regelemihai Yes it certainly is easy to confuse genocide with an act of self defense. But other times it is bleedingly obvious. But when the IDF uses a 13 year old Palestinian boy as a human shield, or when Israel bombs the Gaza strip with white phosphorus and depleted uranium, or when Israel sends planes to bomb civilian territories including schools and hospitals, or when Israel builds the apartheid wall on 85% Palestinian land - it is clearly genocide. It's not something to be calm about.
A supporter of Hamas has the gall to talk about human shields. Israel drops leaflets and sends messages usually before any attack so as to reduce tyhe number of casulaties. I dunno how many countries that are negaged in warfare have the same decency. Surely not Hamas that uses its own citizens as human shields!
"with white phosphorus."
What's your point, Hamas does the same.
" when Israel sends planes to bomb civilian territories including schools and hospitals"
" when Israel sends planes to bomb civilian territories including schools and hospitals"
Nice try but no cigar. Israel does indeed bomb Gaza, as is its right under the UN charter clause that deals with the right of nations to acyt in self defense, but it doesn't bomb civillian areas on purpose. Hamas strategically places bomb factories, misslies, stockpiles and other headquarters in populated areas. It's not Israel's fault that it fights savages. Sorry.
...separation for the purpose of stopping terrorists from killing a country's civillians even remotely as close to apartheid, but again sloganeering and demagoguery is not new to the left. You decry acts of self defense but from the other side of your mouth you praise terrorist attacks. Do you really think any rational person can take your hysterical and phoney outcries seriously?
@regelemihai Why don't you ask yourself why Hamas is acting violently towards Israel? I never condone violence, but you have to expect it when you are killing innocent children. That's what turns people into terrorists. Hamas would not even exist if it weren't for the state of Israel. You can go ahead and assume that without the state of Israel, the Jewish people in the region would suffer another genocide. You can assume that killing people to prevent them from doing something is OK. It's not.
"Why don't you ask yourself why Hamas is acting violently towards Israel?"
I don't ask questions in hope to exculpate nihilists and barbarians of their crimes. Even if it were true that their attacks are provoked(which sorry, they're not), to say that you can understand when someone chooses to slit the throat of 3 little girls, or walk into a school bus full of children with a suicide bomb is disgusting! There are no excuses. None.
@regelemihai And you can assume that the people of Palestine are savages. I'm sure it helps you sleep at night. You can assume that those that are killed deserved it. And you can assume, like pretty much everything else, that I am on the left. I am not anywhere near the left. Apparently, making assumptions like this helps you get by. If I'm not a republican, I'm a democrat, right? If it's not black, it's white, right? You clearly don't know how to think for yourself.
@regelemihai It's funny how you're acting as if Israel cares about the UN. The International Court determined that Israel's apartheid wall is violating international law, and the UN has told Israel to freeze it's settlements, which they would stop if it weren't for the US and it's veto power. They bomb civilian areas on purpose. Get over yourself. It's not collateral damage. It is absolutely on purpose. You could use a little research on "Operation Cast Lead".
"The International Court determined that Israel's apartheid wall is violating international law, and the UN has told Israel to freeze it's settlements"
I, not anyone else who looks at this conflcit objectively can serious take what the UN GA or any other UN "human rights" group says against Israel seriously. They have The worst violators of human rights in the world, like Sudan, SA, and N Korea sitting in their committees. Why would anyone take them seriously?
...settlments are not illegal, which is funny considering that security council resolutions agree with that. The UN is unaware of its own charter that says in Artcile 51 that any nation state that finds itself under attack has a right to self defense.
"They bomb civilian areas on purpose."
You keep repeating that in your head. How sad that it's a lie.
"It's not collateral damage."
Well, it's hard to follow this debate when you choose to define terms as to your liking,but yeah it is
"Why don't you ask yourself why Hamas is acting violently towards Israel? "
Because I don't ask stupid questions in hope to exculpate criminals and barbarians of their crimes. Even if it were true that Hamas's attacks are provoked(which they're not), to say that you can understand when they slit the throats of 3 little girls, or walk into a school bus with a suicide bomb, that is disgusting! There are no excuses for such a behavior.
Lol, so you are excusing them after all. Well, if the death of innocent children automatically turns people into savages, then why don't we see a majority of the Israeli population forming terrorist organizations where they send their kids to die and become maryrs? Well, because they're a difference between a democracy and a theocracy.
And what do you mean I can "assume?" AFter the Holocaust they should've just braced themselves? Very tolerant.
No, I'm not excusing them. Israel already is full of terrorists. So many inside Israel believe they are the better race and believe they have a right to take land from anybody. You should go check out a documentary by BBC called "The Ultra Zionists" if you are too brainwashed to believe me. And of course you bring up the holocaust. The holocaust is the only thing Israel can use to justify their actions. Israel is going to perpetuate a holocaust in order to "prevent" a holocaust.
"Israel is going to perpetuate a holocaust in order to "prevent" a holocaust"
Yeah, I guess you should ask the Arab citizens living in Israel if that's true. You define the words "genocide" and "terrorism" as you wish, now it seems like you're doing the same with teh Holocaust. If by Holocaust you mean that Arabs in Israel have full citizenship, representation in the parliment, exemption from the madatory millitary service, then yeah--it's an ongoing "Holocaust." You should be ashamed for...
@regelemihai It is vital that you understand that no genocide would occur without the state of Israel. The creation of Israel is meant to be a safe haven for Jews. However, that's clearly not the case. The atrocities committed by BOTH Israel and Hamas are inexcusable. Your average Jews and your average Arabs are victims of this conflict. It's a cycle of attack and response which results in the deaths of innocents on both sides. I speak out about this because I value each and every life equally.
@HumanaeAdAstra You really shouldn't, I certainly don't. I value the lives of men who support a legal system that enables individual rights, such as you find throughout the Western world including Israel. The lives of men who don't value such a system I don't value at all, in fact I regard them as a threat. And this is precisely the common ground of the anti-Isreal faction in the West and the Muslims in the Gaza strip: Civilisation, law and individual liberty has little or no value to them.
@regelemihai Finally you seem to be somewhat reasonable. I never said that the West Bank belongs 100% to Arabs. I said that those that were kicked off their land should be able to get it back. I believe that the wall should be taken down and that both Arabs and Jews should live under one government (one state solution, not two) and have equal representation and equal rights. Zionism is the idea that the land belongs to the Jews and nobody else, which in itself is preferential and immoral.
"I believe that the wall should be taken down and that both Arabs and Jews should live under one government."
This will never come to pass so long as Palestinians and Jews keep to their respective religious bigotry. Islam must undergo reform for that to happen, and people like you in the West must stop making excuses for those who engage in terrorist activities. Until that happens, there will never be this utopia; which is regretable.
@HumanaeAdAstra Arabs with Isreali citizinship can own property which is protected under Israeli law. Arabs outside Israel can own property only in a very limited fashion as there's no proper legal system protecting it. In the gaza strip it's really ugly: all individuals are the slaves of the collective. If I was damned to live there, my curses would go to the fat and self-righteous Westeners who support my masters, the Hamas, both morally and financially.
@john42t Hamas is just as much of a threat to the freedom of the people of Palestine as Israel. The victims here are the every day people in Palestine who do not agree with Hamas on using violence to fight off Israel's colonization.
I also suggest you do a lot more research on Israel's extensive human rights violations. There is no excuse.
@HumanaeAdAstra "The vicitms here are the every day people in Palestine who do not agree with Hamas on using violence to fight off Isreal's colonization." No, I'm afraid these are just a guilty and deserve every single bit of hell they've got. The ones who are innocent are those who understand that in Israel people have individual rights and try and make a run for it. Of course they usually can't I suppose, but it is only that attitute that makes you innocent. There are no excuses.
@john42t So you're saying that someone who has lived in Palestine for their whole life, has family and a home there, should go to Israel? You're seriously saying with a straight face that everyone living in Palestine is as guilty as Hamas? Come on. You know better than that.
Why is it so absurd for a Palestinian to stay in his home country and try to make it a better place? Isn't that what we're all here to do? I've been taught that running away from your problems is cowardly.
@HumanaeAdAstra I've been taught a lot of evil things as well. When you're imprisoned with tribalists such as you are if you're born into the gaza strip, there's very little you can do. If you express sympathy for Isreal or the West, if you doubt Allah, you get tortured and killed. You can't make a difference from within any more than the inmate of a penitentiary can. It's a prison, not a civilized country. And Isreal can't tell which of the inmates can be rehabilitated.
@john42t That's simply not true. Look up Ken O'Keefe and watch his videos. He's not Muslim. He's not even Christian. But he's a Palestinian citizen and judging by his videos, they love him there.
You're right about Palestine being a prison.
I hope you can learn to not group everyone together. I know it is easier to think that way, but to think for yourself and do something about the problems in this world is much, much more fulfilling.
@HumanaeAdAstra You've got to be kidding me. A) That guy grew up in America and B) I wasn't talking about Palestine *but the gaza strip*. You're aware that there's an often bloody war going on between the Hamas (gaza) and the Fatah (west-jordan), aren't you? West-Jordan isn't a prison, the Gaza strip is. And there's no "Palestine". You're the one who lumps all "Palestinians" together, obviously much more than I do. "I know that it is easier to think that way". Self-righteous do-gooder.
1. There's no such thing as Plaestinian land, but the point is that they have to include within the line Jewish settlments. You keep ignoring why the building of the fence was even needed in the firstplace. They did it because they were getting tired of being attacked by terrorists. If you want you can blame Palestinian terrorist organizations; not Israel.
2. Who gives a lick? Jimminy Carter also promulgated this lie. Why is this important?
4. Isn't this lovely; now we're reduced to using anecdotes. Okay, I can play that game too. Do you believe the murder of the 3 Jewish girls a month ago was justified?
@regelemihai You're right. There are no excuses for Hamas' behavior. I do not support Hamas. But why don't you ask yourself when Hamas was founded? DECADES after Israel was founded. So, who started the aggression first? Who started taking land and killing innocent people? Israel did. Hamas responded. And of course, in today's society, we are conditioned to believe that the victims somehow deserved it.
The fact that it was founded later doesn't mean that it rose out of anything but the will to subjugate the jewish people and retake the lands. Before Hamas there were other groups who did act belligerently against the Jews, as well as neighbouring Arab countries.
"Who started taking land and killing innocent people?"
Again sir, what are yuo talking about? The lands are are considered now disputed or "occupied" have become that because Israel...
...won wars against Jordan and Egypt. The attacks were initiated by the Arab league. Israel never wanted to take any land from any muslim, they're the ones who accepted the UN partition plan of 1947! Plus, don't forget, it is Jordan and Egypt who took the Palestinian territories after 1948.
A man who uses its citizens as human shield, bombs school buses, or stabs children to death and later is celebrated as a hero is not a "victim." It is an insult to all the true victims of genocide and...
@regelemihai Very funny how all you have to say is that I'm lying in order for you to feel okay with what you're saying. I've seen videos of the damage done to the civilian population. I've seen pictures of babies with bullet holes through their heads. I've seen videos of houses of innocent people being attacked by the IDF. But all the IDF has to say is that they thought terrorists were nearby and they are all set according to you. Not a single problem there.
" I've seen videos of houses of innocent people being attacked by the IDF"
The IDF isn't perfect, but it isn't a terorist organization either. Mnay pictures and other forms of media are used for propaganda means. This isn't new. Plus, consider your claim. If it's okay for Palestinians to act barbarically because they are allegedly acting out of "desperation," why can't I use the same argument with israel?
@regelemihai OK I get that you don't like the UN. I don't either. But you can't dismiss everything they say based on other things they have done or said. It's very clear that it is completely wrong to take people's land. Do you agree with that? Do you think it's okay for Israel to take the land? Please tell me why that's okay. And tell me why you would not fight back if your land were taken from you.
@regelemihai "A supporter of Hamas has the gall to talk about human shields."
What a classic generalization. I want the people of Palestine to be free, so therefore I support Hamas? Seriously? Are you really degrading yourself to THAT method of thinking? I would like to see evidence that Israel gives warnings of attacks. White Phosphorus is a horrible weapon, and yes Hamas does use it, but not nearly the amount that Israel uses it.
@regelemihai And when I say "it certainly is easy to confuse genocide with an act of self defense," I mean that there are a lot of idiots out there that can't tell the difference.
"Why do you turn a blind eye to genocide Israel is committing against the citizens of Palestine?"
I'm afraid that by using this term you don't really know what genocide really means. It's a cute politicaly charged slur, but it doesn't hold water. Why not just engage in a rational conversation without resorting to these fanciful labels? They don't stick.
Wikileaks can say what it wants, Israel provides Gazans regularly with humanitarian aid and goods despite the fact that they're....
...being rocketed by Hamas. "I want the people of Palestine to be free, so therefore I support Hamas?"
"Free" in what sense? Would uprooting Jewish settlers from every single Gazan settlment be considered a capitulation? Because that's what isarel did. Would it be to let Gazans hold free elections? Because that's what it did. I dunno how you define the word "free", and I'd be suspicious since you also define the word genocide as you see fit.
" I would like to see evidence that Israel gives warnings of attacks."
Gladly.
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Also, try accessing(I can't find the link) the Israeli Embassy website. Numerous exmaples of phone calls and leaflets being dropped. Like: "To the residents of the Gaza Strip
The IDF will act against any movements and elements conducting terrorist activities against the residents of the State of Israel.
The IDF will hit and destroy any building or ammunition
@regelemihai That is not a warning of an attack good enough to prevent innocent people from being killed. We all know that the people of Palestine are treated as terrorists until proven otherwise, so essentially what Israel is warning is that they will attack Palestine if they see "terrorist activities". Too vague. The IDF can attack whenever and whoever they want, and they do. Why don't you go ahead and have a look at the death tolls since the beginning of the conflict?
@regelemihai A free Palestine would mean that all of those that lost their land to Israeli settlers would get their land back, the apartheid wall would be taken down, and the people of Palestine and Israel would join for a one state solution in which everyone is treated equally. I understand your fear-based thought process does not believe that this would work, but it absolutely would. The video you linked to shows Hamas using human shields, which I did not at all deny.
"A free Palestine would mean that all of those that lost their land to Israeli settlers would get their land back."
Which they did in Gaza. They gave it ALL back, removed settlers by force to pander to those savages requests and instead of peace they received a record number of rockets and attacks. It was stupid that they made that move to begin with, and when they look at what ahppened in Gaza they feel, how shall we say--iffy when they contemplate the prospect of giving back the West Bank..
...to the same barbarians who rocketing them from Gaza.
" the apartheid wall would be taken down."
Again you and your liberal usage of the english language. It's not an Apartheid wall. Not close. It wasn't put in place just for the sake of segragating them; it was done out of SELF DEFENSE. Try to get that through your head. There's no parallel. Nada.
"The video you linked to shows Hamas using human shields"
You didn't watch the video then; you just read the title. If you...
..keep watching it shows the network interviewing Gazans in the street who say that the IDF has called them on their cells and home phones issusing warning prior to the bombings. And I'm glad you're not denying they're using human shields, but then again why do you keep refusing to accept the fact that it is collateral damage?
"That is not a warning of an attack good enough to prevent innocent people from being killed"
With all due respect, what you personally believe is not an...
...objective standard. Just because you don't think it's good enough doesn't mean it isn't. They fulfilled their responsability. They issued warnings both telephonically and in writing. What more can they do? What other country that is engaged in warfare does this?
"The IDF can attack whenever and whoever they want, and they do."
Nonsense, they attack whenever they're attacked, which it is, as I said, a provision of the UN charter. They warn the citizens and bomb terorrist cells.
"Why don't you go ahead and have a look at the death tolls since the beginning of the conflict?"
Why do I have to? The number of dead isn't an indicator of anything other than the fact that Hamas uses its citizens as a means, and that Israel is more developed millitarily. It doesn't demonstrate a moral dimension by any means.
" Do you agree with that? Do you think it's okay for Israel to take the land?"
Listen, I'll grant you that there are religious nutjobs who do build their...
...settlments out of some wacko religious motivation. I dislike them too, just as you do. But it is disingenuous to say that the West Bank belongs 100% to the Palestinians. I simply don't agree with that. Those territories were shared by both Jews and Arabs before 1948. To say that it's a purely Palestinian land just because they became a majority after those lands were taken by force by Jordan is wrongheaded.
I believe, as you do too, that a two state solution must be reached.
If anyone want to know more on how the reputation of Israel is upheld here in the U.S. Please google "The Hasbara Handbook". Mainly, you will be educated on the types of debate style that are used to accomplish this. It definitely opens your eyes to what is going on.
Great video bro. You'll have muslims try to spin the situation but nobody buys they're rhetoric but themselves....because that's the people they actually are trying to convince.
i have to say, i doubt the accuracy of this post. i usually like Dee Loren, but he's usually talking economics. this i think probably lies outside his relative expertise.
@Ihatenames101 aid, food, medical care, provided (mostly) paying taxes in Israel . Palestinians fire missiles at them in return, Israel thek out the tens of thousands of Jewish residents (in 2005), hers from Gaza to the Palestinians develop a state space, they preferred to use the funds to weapons And not building the economy, houses and establish a state , they brought their situation upon themselves
@Ihatenames101 Before that the border between Israel and Gaza, and to Gazans had free access to Israel, they made suicide attacks on a daily basis (I can write about attacks + dates to prove myself) that they did not say in the media, Israel is the most moral country in the world (Feed those who attack it)
Why does everyone attack Isreal, At least they don't stone a man to death simply for being gay. Take Saudi Arabia for example, any religiouse minority there are brutaly persicuted, they murder their women for being raped, they openly support terrorist and ship ant-western homophobic liturture into the west and constantly abuse people human rights. Stop attacking Isreal and take a good hard look at the other thugs out there, thei JUST as bad, infact their a WHOLE lot worse.
@meatisdeliciouse, they are just another backwards, intolerant, statist regime. Sure, some countries are worse, but they are hardly the beacon of progress in the middle east. I could argue and make the case that they are alot worse then saudi arabia and the like, but then it just comes down to "well this statistic shows this, and this event proves this", and it's completely beside the point and irrelevant.
They are fundamentally wrong and the problems are only going to get worse.
Obama actualy KEEPS his promices, he said he would end DADT and he DID. Nixon was a lying faciset ass hole, Obama is much better and he is a man of his word.
@meatisdeliciouse Obama also promised to repeal the PATRIOT act but has continued it. He also promised to keep unemployment below 8% and its around 9%. All presidents break promises.
@ZM7241994 Well 9% is only 1.1% away from actual keeping the promices, congress are as much to blame for the failures to keep those vows. America is not a dictator ship and like here in the UK all laws have to be voted on such as parliment and if the majority say no the proposal des not become legislation. Barack Obama ACTUALY promiced to END DADT and he DID, NO other president hase EVER given rights to the gay comunity such as Barack OBAMA
@Houshalter Thats a good thig and a bad thing, it all depends on your point of view, I'm just disenpointed that neither George B or Bill C either tried to over turn DADT, they never really adressesd the isue, Change hapens slowly and too slow if you ask me in certain areas, theconologicaly were extreamly syphysticated, in some social aspects were back the the dark ages.
@meatisdeliciouse, why does it matter? No nuclear armed country has ever been invaded, infact it's extremely rare for a politically stable first world country to get engaged in major conflicts. We don't need a military at all, so who cares if gay people can work in it or not? It's like the polticians are dangling carrots infront of us. "Oh, you want gays to have rights? Well, I'll see if I can make some minor changes over if you give me a bunch of support."
@ZM7241994 The other presidents did not even try to repeal DADT, so on my opinion Obama is the best one. Barack Obama may try to over turn the patriot act again some time in the future, you never know, he might succed. He's only been in office for 2 and a bit years, there are plaenty more things he could do, like have a nation wide AOC of 18 rather than 14 in places, there is lots he could do, there plaenty more use in this one yet.
@meatisdeliciouse You said Obama keeps his promises but it is clear that he hasn't. I am not trying to say Obama is a terrible president, but that he is no better then Bush.
@mistermoen exactly my thoughts. he's just another self righteous ignorant american who lives in his little bubble thinking he knows everything. he summarized the gaza situation under 10 seconds, which was plain retarded lol
never mind the 60 plus years before that, or that gaza was under occupation sine 1967; hamas being an actual democratic elected government. seriously this guy is a douche
@xplosivelilly Why wasn't Gaza seeking to be a free Palestinian entity when they were under Egyptian control until 1967? Why not the cries against the "Egyptian occupation of Gaza?" Your just another ignorant scumbag. Go to hell with your "I'm not anti-Jewish im anti-Zionist" crap. If you were really for peace and justice you would be against all the terrorism performed on Israelis just as much as you condemn Israel's actions. You and the whole free Palestine movement are phony assholes.
I think that the commenter here is right. The convoy was clearly a public relations stunt. Unfortunately, Israel blundered right into it. The Israelis should develop a means of responding to stunts like these with finesse, even if it means holding back.
@swinefluPANIC Dude, Israel IS performing acts of terrorism, and the U.S. is funding them. And the U.S. is an ally to Israel because it's very strategic for us to set up military bases in the Middle East there--not out of some compassion for the Jewish people.
Just cause Israel is our ally, that doesn't grant them immunity from criticism, in fact, we should criticize and scrutinize them more as our allies.
Israel bombing the fuck out of schools and bulldozing homes most certainly deserve our criticism, as this is the image we do not want our allies to have. Hiding the problem won't solve it.
@xXshinzoXx I agree. And I think that something needs to be done, but I think the reason nothing has been done is because we don't want to ruin our diplomatic relations with Israel. Plus they needed to do something to defend their country and they did. But I agree that they should be more precise a bout killing the bad guys and not bulldozing their people's home.
People can have their biases against Israel and hate them for what they want, but I don't understand people attacking Israel on this issue. In this particular case Israel was in the right. I AM NOT SAYING IN ALL CASES! i think it is safe to say in this one instance Israel was in the right
a naive(?) simple mind in ANYTHING he says - good enough for your corner hoodlum dumbas shooting shit - but don't insult listeners with such high sounding name and then produce uninformed Zionist ra ra - keep your Pro-Israel crap shoots for your family, and don't bring up Germany, because you probably even don't know where that is!
I actually wanted to comment on the video no in your comment. This yank seems to dont know anything about the video, just only what he watches on FOX NEWS. First of all the ships where already inspected from the Turkish authories, which is the closest israeli ally in the region and they didnt have any weapons, but in his ignorance they are all arabes, muslims and terrorists
. Second of all, Hamas just shoot homemade rockects which dont reach far and barely hurt anybody which doesnt allow them to bomb the whole gaza and blockade them
. Palestinian only eat from what the UN has to offer. In the west bank there are about 800.000 settles which have taken most of the land of the palestinians. plus military areas of the israeli army which leave the palestinians cities isolated and they get hostilities from settlers plus military incursions. not to metion that they got the water supplies cut and their lands are drying out. You are just a dumb fuck and I cant believe people actually watch your videos they are worthless.
As long as Israel continues to break the Geneva convention, they have no one to blame except themselves. The are like the weak kid in the playground who uses their big brother to bully other little kids around. America should be ashamed for holding up this farce for so long and we are only obliged to keep this charade as long as Zionist bankers, lobbyists, and politicians continue to tug the strings in Washington. They will bleed America dry to survive and then move on like a parasite.
Resolution 279: (May 12, 1970) "Demands the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory, SINCE THEN over 80 violations from the Israel gov. You sir, dont know SQUAT on the world.
it's too bad this video misses the basic problem with the blockade: it doesn't stop the rockets. they're assembled using basic parts in home labs using whatever the fuck they can find. if they were some kind of technological masterpiece, the supply would've dried up long ago. the blockade is a collective punishment is an attempt to collectively punish the gazans for the military actions of hamas, a violation of the laws of war and all things good and civil (as are the rocket attacks).
The people of Palestine have a right to defend themselves. Trade sanctions are an act of war, that ship was boarded in international waters, and the cammandos did not shoot 'back' because no one shot at them, they were attacked with sticks, and responded with automatic fire.... I saw a slingshot, i saw no flash bangs, or military equipment of anykind.... and all those thousands of rockets, how many people have they killed?
@metagordian You can kill someone with socks. Military grade equipment is not required to cause harm.
If the ship had agreed to be redirected to a harbour for inspection (for such things as weapons and other supplies to construct them) wouldn't a humanitarian aid ship agree to be redirected if all they had was in fact humanitarian aid?
@wormer104 .... Listen to your self, "socks can be used to kill" (paraphrased) if the zionists think that socks are a deadly weapon, then so is toothpaste, and alot of other things.... Things that arent weapons at all.... its because they have that mentality that they would not alow themselves to be boarded....
Did HTWW really just defend Israel? They fucking bulldoze over miles of houses without any warning. They violate international law all the time, and they are one of the most racist, amoral countries on this planet.
@elsquibbs, Really? That's your best reply? Really? WTF does a casino have to do with Israel. At most, a casino takes money from unwise gamblers. Israel bulldozes over children, blows up entire buildings based on sketchy information there could be an enemy in it, shoots at unarmed civilians, has apartheid laws, uses illegal weapons, forces sections of the population into poverty, etc.
@Houshalter You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. If Israel is so racist, why does a study by Harvard indicate that 77% of people of Arab ethnicity living in Israel say they perfer it there over their home country? And why do they enjoy the same rights upon citizenship as Israelites?
Also, Israel has made some mistakes, sure. No country hasn't done their fair share of wrong. But for anyone to insist that what Israel does is up there with Hamas is sanctioningreal evil.
@BlackWolf4830, Really, the people on the Gaza strip prefer it there? I'm sure they may want to live in their homeland rather then give in, but I seriously doubt anyone believes for a momment conditions are better for them. Look, I'm sure Israel isn't as bad or evil as people make it out to be, but to blatantly deny such attrocities, or claim they are justified, it makes me sick.
@Houshalter Umm ok you must live in backwards world...a world where Israel surrounds Islamic nations and shoots bombs into Islamic nations threatening to wipe them off of the face of the earth and this not even a century after a mass racist holocaust. Dont be stupid dude...the world works like dominoes...if you do something something else will happen. if you want Israel to to be a better Israel you have to have to first stop all the blood sucking vultures surrounding her from making threats.
@jamlimited3, I'm sure you believe that, but it's absurd to say the least. I believe anyone has the right to fight against any organization or government that violates their life liberty or property. When Israel landmines civilian areas, when they blockade "sovereign" nations they are not at war with, when they use weapons that are against the geneva convention, when they fire into crowds for no reason, or seize territory illegally, they are violating all of those things.
@jamlimited3 When are ignorant pricks like you going to stop swallowing Zionist propaganda? Ahmadinejad said he wanted to wipe Zionism off the map NOT Israel and there are many Jews who agree with him.
@HoosierMF You dont think I got the memo? You know the one where people now use that as their excuse to silence people who expose men like Ahmadinejad? Please spare me...I know why Ahmadinejizzad said what he said and I know why he mentioned the Mahdi when he said it. Hes not talking about using clorox bleach to wipe out zionism now is he talking about issuing school books and campaigns to sway people's opinions...no he's talking jihad and muslims sing songs in arabic about such a bloody era.
@Houshalter I'm sure both sides have done their fair share of first punches. However, do you see anything on the news about Hamas launching rockets? Of course not. Like HTWW said, you either don't know the facts or don't want to listen.
Palestine is not perfect, stop hating just because you're Muslim or Christian.
@RyanStash, I have no idea what you are trying to say but I find it hard to believe you can defend Israel's tyrrany.
The situation is almost exactly the same as America was with the native americans in the 19th century. A small rebelious tribe would slaughter a group of civilians because they took their land, and the army would go through and attack any group of indians they could find, and eventually ship them off to reservations where they were dependent on the state for almost everything.
US shadow Govt + AIPAC + their psychopath Zionist war mongers are the scum of the Earth
JanRichardus 3 days ago
Professional victim
MrCraniumExplosion 6 days ago
Let the world open it's eyes to American/Jewish and Palestinian propaganda
aprc1977a 3 weeks ago
and no friggen way.. i cant believe you said just the same bullshit netinyahu spews in his speeches.. thousands of rockets every day!.. yeah.. right.. uh huh.. im sure thats why israel
looks like a peace of swiss cheese now doesnt it.. thousands! did you even take a second to imagin that? and what? home made/ inferior supposedly iranian rockets too advanced for your missle systems? you need to blockade? how the hell could you compare that to the US blockade with cuba?! a real threat at the time!
islamconstitution 1 month ago
! no way ! the turks had weapons and where attacking Israeli soliders?
on what? a turkish ship? in what? international waters? and what? did the ship have rockets in them going to gaza?
I actually DO wish that those turks had guns on board and had rid the world of this state piracy squad you called soliders..
and thousands of rockets? any country? huh.. sounds strangly femliure to what the arabs experianced since 1948..
but ofcourse, the palistinians where harboring terrorists too then~
islamconstitution 1 month ago
@xWren2 And you sound like a traitor to the USA
Uncle99B 1 month ago
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Thinryana 2 months ago
Blame Israel for the actions of Israel?
That's anti-semitic.
Uncle99B 2 months ago
@Uncle99B
blame israel for things it doesn't do...
bywukime 2 months ago
@bywukime. What are some things she gets blamed for she has not done? Here are some things Israel has done. Dropped WP and millions on cluster bombs on civilians. Boarded a turkish ship in international waters under the cover of darkness and killed nine people and then claimed she was the victim. Stuck her hand deep in the pocket of the US taxpayer for decades to the tune of over $3 billion per year. Killed Rachel Corrie. Attacked the USS Liberty killing dozens of our sailors.
Uncle99B 2 months ago
3:15 im happy that we know the truth today and that shows me that you are a fucking racist idiot ! people died there and you talk like they had been marshmellows.plus how can a bunch of people attack an army trained as good as the israeli one VERY HARD ! i think the only thing that is very hard is the tumor in your brain .
SultanTurkish 3 months ago
Yeah they're not thinking clearly. The Anti-Zionists are actually Anti-Semitic people full of hate which makes them think not clearly. It makes them biased.
darkchakra1234 3 months ago
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May HaShem bless you, Sir, for you've spoken the truth. Sadly, this is quite rare nowdays, especially if the truth happens to be pro-Israel.
abbielayla 4 months ago
Since the creation of the United Nations in 1945, no country has violated as many UN Security Council Resolutions as the state of Israel. In spite of this fact, Israel, a country slightly smaller than the state of New Jersey, receives nearly 1/3 of the entire annual US Foreign Aid budget. Israel's continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.
klscott5 4 months ago
@klscott5 obviously ,u know nothing about israel.
TheAbsolumER 4 months ago
@TheAbsolumER , Obviously. What do you know about the Begin/Galili agreement June of 48?
Who's Irgun anyway?
klscott5 4 months ago
Give a break after the commandos attacked the flotilla there was no israeli human casualty and no grenades found you fucking retarted. get your facts right you fucker. Which billions are you talking about?
Algorios 5 months ago
I share the commentators contempt for the Obama regime. I reject his biased opinion about Israel.
ZEDSTODT 6 months ago
"Any other country would not have to tolerate rockets being fired into their cities". True! unless, of course, they were maintaining a fundamental claim of entitlement based on silly, fictional Biblical prophecy, or blatantly disregarding over 60 UN resolutions resulting in severe blow back in the form of Arab extremists, or exercising oppressive military rule over innocent, unarmed, inhabitants of a land or purchasing U.S. politicians in order to perpetuate such a charade.
tubeboy8 6 months ago
@tubeboy8 Your double standard views illustrate clearly the reason you landed a day gig in Washington.
tubeboy8 6 months ago
@tubeboy8,Israel is a state that was created by UN vote.
Sily or not,2000 years ago there were 2 Jewish countries in these region Judea and Israel, never has been any other country.
Israel accepted UN decision 242 to return the ocupied land for arab countries in exchange for true Peace and acceptance and did it both with Jordan and Egypt.
When the Palestinians will be able to sit with the Israelies and be honest and brave regarding the peace process you will see they will get their country.
uvsilver 4 months ago
@uvsilver
I dont think a claim 2000 years ago can still stand. The holy roman empire (germany pretty much) owned about a quarter of europe about 600 years ago and that doesnt mean we should give chunks of europe to germany.
Also, Native americans had their own nation up until recently in history, and their last great uprising was near the end of the 19th century and yet few americans would advocate giving them texas or some other state for a country.
Helm28469 4 months ago
The Romans exiled the majority of the Jews at 1st century and since then it changed a lot of hands and empires.
While few Jews always presented in this mostly deserted area, Arab tribes came and went, wondering the dessert.
In the 19 century Jews from Europe started to migrate in to this area because they were persecuted in their countries, never accepted as full citizens.
Those Jews came with new agriculture techniques and developed this waste area.
For 1800 years it was mostly deserted.
uvsilver 4 months ago
Israel is a fact for 63 years.
The "2000 years ago" claim is irrelevant anymore because the fact is that Israel as a Jewish state exists and the growth and development of this country in this area cannot be erased.
uvsilver 4 months ago
@uvsilver can be like the palestinian one got same rights for everybody
SultanTurkish 3 months ago
@SultanTurkish, Palestinians should ask their rights from the Palestinian authority, who they elect in a democratic why.
The Palestinian authority should understand its responsibility toward its people and start negotiating with Israel to establish a country in agreed borders.
The Jewish settlements should not be a problem because they never were build on Palestinian land...no Palestinian person was evicted to build a settlement in Judea & Samaria, they all were build on bare land.
uvsilver 2 months ago
@uvsilver exactly
darkchakra1234 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
all this hasbara is paid by our taxpayer dollars SAD
TARASONE100 7 months ago
@TARASONE100
1) When Josef saved Egypt from starvation:
Genesis 41 37? And the thing was good in the eyes of Pharaoh, and in the eyes of all his servants. 38 And Pharaoh said unto his servants: 'Can we find such a one as this, a man in whom the spirit of God is?'
2) When Moses asked him to release the Hebrew slaves:
Exodos 5 2 And Pharaoh said: 'Who is the LORD, that I should hearken unto His voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, and moreover I will not let Israel go.'
perrik7 6 months ago
check out the movie on our channel on the gaza motives etc.
FreedomFlotillaTwo 8 months ago
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ipoddy550 8 months ago
Israel Is a peace loving country. All they want is peace. I am a muslim from Jordan. It's just Hamas uses every chance they get to make Israel look like a terrible place. Hamas hides in schools, and other important buildings. I believe that you must wipe out the radicals, to achieve a necessary peace between the innocent peace loving no affiliation to anti semetic Palestinians and the very peace love non anti Palestinian Israelis ( I mean the Israelis who are not that anti Palestinian, I didn't
thepurplefedoraclan 8 months ago
@thepurplefedoraclan you are not a muslim or human, israel doesn't want peace. it's not a surprise hitler was a jew.
worldpeace365 8 months ago
@worldpeace365 he was also was born on Mars, don't forget this!!
dukef4 8 months ago
@thepurplefedoraclan I'm glad to see a Muslim talking like you. It's important to make the world understand that not all Muslims are extremists and hate Israel. And it's important to let people know the vision of a Muslim about Israel. I agree with you... Israel is a peace loving country. I've being there and people are really nice! :)
fernandatralala 8 months ago
this mug thinks he looked at facts lol
ssj6boy 9 months ago
Alright whatever. Let's just stop licking Israel's asshole. I don't want my taxes going to their military for killing Muslims in our name, with our weapons. Good job making reference to Nazi Germany BTW. How many people have to die in Darfur before we go in and help them, and take land from other people to build them a nation? Obama is dead right, Israel needs to go back to the 1967 borders and stop stealing land from the Palestinians. Hamas is a product of their encroachment. There I said it!
Kori114 9 months ago
Where is the part about Isreal. I'm 1:47 seconds in and all I hear are talking points.
Marictdude 9 months ago
a smart guy
caju4u 9 months ago
This is hilarious !
kalthoumaced 9 months ago
go israel
mosheshabo 9 months ago
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FUCK ISRAEL
ServelatKnekten 10 months ago
@ServelatKnekten fuck you
mrcrysis1001 9 months ago
@mrcrysis1001 no fuck israel, fucking unhuman bastards
ServelatKnekten 9 months ago
@ServelatKnekten --- nice... very nice.... you are very smart!!! not
ipgrulles 9 months ago
Oh my god your ignorance in regard to the Israel/Palestine conflict is extremely dangerous. Why do you turn a blind eye to genocide Israel is committing against the citizens of Palestine? WikiLeaks reveals that Israel is purposely keeping Palestine on the brink of economic collapse. Wake up.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra
I know it's easy to confuse genocide with an act of self defense against terrorists, but at leats try to learn he distinction. Your overblown hysteria isn't impressing anyone.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai Yes it certainly is easy to confuse genocide with an act of self defense. But other times it is bleedingly obvious. But when the IDF uses a 13 year old Palestinian boy as a human shield, or when Israel bombs the Gaza strip with white phosphorus and depleted uranium, or when Israel sends planes to bomb civilian territories including schools and hospitals, or when Israel builds the apartheid wall on 85% Palestinian land - it is clearly genocide. It's not something to be calm about.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra
A supporter of Hamas has the gall to talk about human shields. Israel drops leaflets and sends messages usually before any attack so as to reduce tyhe number of casulaties. I dunno how many countries that are negaged in warfare have the same decency. Surely not Hamas that uses its own citizens as human shields!
"with white phosphorus."
What's your point, Hamas does the same.
" when Israel sends planes to bomb civilian territories including schools and hospitals"
regelemihai 10 months ago
" when Israel sends planes to bomb civilian territories including schools and hospitals"
Nice try but no cigar. Israel does indeed bomb Gaza, as is its right under the UN charter clause that deals with the right of nations to acyt in self defense, but it doesn't bomb civillian areas on purpose. Hamas strategically places bomb factories, misslies, stockpiles and other headquarters in populated areas. It's not Israel's fault that it fights savages. Sorry.
I dunno how building a wall of...
regelemihai 10 months ago
...separation for the purpose of stopping terrorists from killing a country's civillians even remotely as close to apartheid, but again sloganeering and demagoguery is not new to the left. You decry acts of self defense but from the other side of your mouth you praise terrorist attacks. Do you really think any rational person can take your hysterical and phoney outcries seriously?
No it's not genocide. Not even close.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai Why don't you ask yourself why Hamas is acting violently towards Israel? I never condone violence, but you have to expect it when you are killing innocent children. That's what turns people into terrorists. Hamas would not even exist if it weren't for the state of Israel. You can go ahead and assume that without the state of Israel, the Jewish people in the region would suffer another genocide. You can assume that killing people to prevent them from doing something is OK. It's not.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
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"Why don't you ask yourself why Hamas is acting violently towards Israel?"
I don't ask questions in hope to exculpate nihilists and barbarians of their crimes. Even if it were true that their attacks are provoked(which sorry, they're not), to say that you can understand when someone chooses to slit the throat of 3 little girls, or walk into a school bus full of children with a suicide bomb is disgusting! There are no excuses. None.
" That's what turns people into terrorists"
Really?..
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai And you can assume that the people of Palestine are savages. I'm sure it helps you sleep at night. You can assume that those that are killed deserved it. And you can assume, like pretty much everything else, that I am on the left. I am not anywhere near the left. Apparently, making assumptions like this helps you get by. If I'm not a republican, I'm a democrat, right? If it's not black, it's white, right? You clearly don't know how to think for yourself.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
@regelemihai It's funny how you're acting as if Israel cares about the UN. The International Court determined that Israel's apartheid wall is violating international law, and the UN has told Israel to freeze it's settlements, which they would stop if it weren't for the US and it's veto power. They bomb civilian areas on purpose. Get over yourself. It's not collateral damage. It is absolutely on purpose. You could use a little research on "Operation Cast Lead".
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
"The International Court determined that Israel's apartheid wall is violating international law, and the UN has told Israel to freeze it's settlements"
I, not anyone else who looks at this conflcit objectively can serious take what the UN GA or any other UN "human rights" group says against Israel seriously. They have The worst violators of human rights in the world, like Sudan, SA, and N Korea sitting in their committees. Why would anyone take them seriously?
Point in fact, the....
regelemihai 10 months ago
...settlments are not illegal, which is funny considering that security council resolutions agree with that. The UN is unaware of its own charter that says in Artcile 51 that any nation state that finds itself under attack has a right to self defense.
"They bomb civilian areas on purpose."
You keep repeating that in your head. How sad that it's a lie.
"It's not collateral damage."
Well, it's hard to follow this debate when you choose to define terms as to your liking,but yeah it is
regelemihai 10 months ago
"Why don't you ask yourself why Hamas is acting violently towards Israel? "
Because I don't ask stupid questions in hope to exculpate criminals and barbarians of their crimes. Even if it were true that Hamas's attacks are provoked(which they're not), to say that you can understand when they slit the throats of 3 little girls, or walk into a school bus with a suicide bomb, that is disgusting! There are no excuses for such a behavior.
regelemihai 10 months ago
"That's what turns people into terrorists"
Lol, so you are excusing them after all. Well, if the death of innocent children automatically turns people into savages, then why don't we see a majority of the Israeli population forming terrorist organizations where they send their kids to die and become maryrs? Well, because they're a difference between a democracy and a theocracy.
And what do you mean I can "assume?" AFter the Holocaust they should've just braced themselves? Very tolerant.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai
No, I'm not excusing them. Israel already is full of terrorists. So many inside Israel believe they are the better race and believe they have a right to take land from anybody. You should go check out a documentary by BBC called "The Ultra Zionists" if you are too brainwashed to believe me. And of course you bring up the holocaust. The holocaust is the only thing Israel can use to justify their actions. Israel is going to perpetuate a holocaust in order to "prevent" a holocaust.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
"Israel is going to perpetuate a holocaust in order to "prevent" a holocaust"
Yeah, I guess you should ask the Arab citizens living in Israel if that's true. You define the words "genocide" and "terrorism" as you wish, now it seems like you're doing the same with teh Holocaust. If by Holocaust you mean that Arabs in Israel have full citizenship, representation in the parliment, exemption from the madatory millitary service, then yeah--it's an ongoing "Holocaust." You should be ashamed for...
regelemihai 10 months ago
...even considering to draw a analogy between the two. Just shows how seruiously you really take the Holocaust to be.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai It is vital that you understand that no genocide would occur without the state of Israel. The creation of Israel is meant to be a safe haven for Jews. However, that's clearly not the case. The atrocities committed by BOTH Israel and Hamas are inexcusable. Your average Jews and your average Arabs are victims of this conflict. It's a cycle of attack and response which results in the deaths of innocents on both sides. I speak out about this because I value each and every life equally.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
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" I speak out about this because I value each and every life equally."
I'm glad to hear that, but then again you claim that this conflict would've never happened if Israel didn't exist.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra You really shouldn't, I certainly don't. I value the lives of men who support a legal system that enables individual rights, such as you find throughout the Western world including Israel. The lives of men who don't value such a system I don't value at all, in fact I regard them as a threat. And this is precisely the common ground of the anti-Isreal faction in the West and the Muslims in the Gaza strip: Civilisation, law and individual liberty has little or no value to them.
john42t 9 months ago
@regelemihai Finally you seem to be somewhat reasonable. I never said that the West Bank belongs 100% to Arabs. I said that those that were kicked off their land should be able to get it back. I believe that the wall should be taken down and that both Arabs and Jews should live under one government (one state solution, not two) and have equal representation and equal rights. Zionism is the idea that the land belongs to the Jews and nobody else, which in itself is preferential and immoral.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
"I believe that the wall should be taken down and that both Arabs and Jews should live under one government."
This will never come to pass so long as Palestinians and Jews keep to their respective religious bigotry. Islam must undergo reform for that to happen, and people like you in the West must stop making excuses for those who engage in terrorist activities. Until that happens, there will never be this utopia; which is regretable.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai Ah, wow... Yeah... Totally true.
Kori114 9 months ago
@Kori114
Glad you agree.
regelemihai 9 months ago
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"Zionism is the idea that the land belongs to the Jews and nobody else, which in itself is preferential and immoral."
Islam believes the land belongs to Muslims alone, and that Jews and other non-believers should either be subjugated, converted, or killed.
Again, why the double standard?
regelemihai 10 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra Arabs with Isreali citizinship can own property which is protected under Israeli law. Arabs outside Israel can own property only in a very limited fashion as there's no proper legal system protecting it. In the gaza strip it's really ugly: all individuals are the slaves of the collective. If I was damned to live there, my curses would go to the fat and self-righteous Westeners who support my masters, the Hamas, both morally and financially.
john42t 9 months ago
@john42t Hamas is just as much of a threat to the freedom of the people of Palestine as Israel. The victims here are the every day people in Palestine who do not agree with Hamas on using violence to fight off Israel's colonization.
I also suggest you do a lot more research on Israel's extensive human rights violations. There is no excuse.
HumanaeAdAstra 9 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra "The vicitms here are the every day people in Palestine who do not agree with Hamas on using violence to fight off Isreal's colonization." No, I'm afraid these are just a guilty and deserve every single bit of hell they've got. The ones who are innocent are those who understand that in Israel people have individual rights and try and make a run for it. Of course they usually can't I suppose, but it is only that attitute that makes you innocent. There are no excuses.
john42t 9 months ago
@john42t So you're saying that someone who has lived in Palestine for their whole life, has family and a home there, should go to Israel? You're seriously saying with a straight face that everyone living in Palestine is as guilty as Hamas? Come on. You know better than that.
Why is it so absurd for a Palestinian to stay in his home country and try to make it a better place? Isn't that what we're all here to do? I've been taught that running away from your problems is cowardly.
HumanaeAdAstra 9 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra I've been taught a lot of evil things as well. When you're imprisoned with tribalists such as you are if you're born into the gaza strip, there's very little you can do. If you express sympathy for Isreal or the West, if you doubt Allah, you get tortured and killed. You can't make a difference from within any more than the inmate of a penitentiary can. It's a prison, not a civilized country. And Isreal can't tell which of the inmates can be rehabilitated.
john42t 9 months ago
@john42t That's simply not true. Look up Ken O'Keefe and watch his videos. He's not Muslim. He's not even Christian. But he's a Palestinian citizen and judging by his videos, they love him there.
You're right about Palestine being a prison.
I hope you can learn to not group everyone together. I know it is easier to think that way, but to think for yourself and do something about the problems in this world is much, much more fulfilling.
Namaste!
HumanaeAdAstra 9 months ago
@HumanaeAdAstra You've got to be kidding me. A) That guy grew up in America and B) I wasn't talking about Palestine *but the gaza strip*. You're aware that there's an often bloody war going on between the Hamas (gaza) and the Fatah (west-jordan), aren't you? West-Jordan isn't a prison, the Gaza strip is. And there's no "Palestine". You're the one who lumps all "Palestinians" together, obviously much more than I do. "I know that it is easier to think that way". Self-righteous do-gooder.
john42t 9 months ago
@regelemihai Why don't you answer these questions for me...
1. If Israel built the wall to protect it's people from rockets, why is 85% of the wall built on Palestinian land?
2. Do you believe that Israel is an apartheid state? If not, then why did Nelson Mandela say so?
3. Do you believe that Jewish people have a right to take land from others?
4. Do you believe the murder of Rachel Corrie was justified?
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
1. There's no such thing as Plaestinian land, but the point is that they have to include within the line Jewish settlments. You keep ignoring why the building of the fence was even needed in the firstplace. They did it because they were getting tired of being attacked by terrorists. If you want you can blame Palestinian terrorist organizations; not Israel.
2. Who gives a lick? Jimminy Carter also promulgated this lie. Why is this important?
3. No I don't.
regelemihai 10 months ago
4. Isn't this lovely; now we're reduced to using anecdotes. Okay, I can play that game too. Do you believe the murder of the 3 Jewish girls a month ago was justified?
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai You're right. There are no excuses for Hamas' behavior. I do not support Hamas. But why don't you ask yourself when Hamas was founded? DECADES after Israel was founded. So, who started the aggression first? Who started taking land and killing innocent people? Israel did. Hamas responded. And of course, in today's society, we are conditioned to believe that the victims somehow deserved it.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
"So, who started the aggression first?"
The fact that it was founded later doesn't mean that it rose out of anything but the will to subjugate the jewish people and retake the lands. Before Hamas there were other groups who did act belligerently against the Jews, as well as neighbouring Arab countries.
"Who started taking land and killing innocent people?"
Again sir, what are yuo talking about? The lands are are considered now disputed or "occupied" have become that because Israel...
regelemihai 10 months ago
...won wars against Jordan and Egypt. The attacks were initiated by the Arab league. Israel never wanted to take any land from any muslim, they're the ones who accepted the UN partition plan of 1947! Plus, don't forget, it is Jordan and Egypt who took the Palestinian territories after 1948.
A man who uses its citizens as human shield, bombs school buses, or stabs children to death and later is celebrated as a hero is not a "victim." It is an insult to all the true victims of genocide and...
regelemihai 10 months ago
...despotism in the world to grant these animals a victimhood status. I don't understand why you can't see this.
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai Very funny how all you have to say is that I'm lying in order for you to feel okay with what you're saying. I've seen videos of the damage done to the civilian population. I've seen pictures of babies with bullet holes through their heads. I've seen videos of houses of innocent people being attacked by the IDF. But all the IDF has to say is that they thought terrorists were nearby and they are all set according to you. Not a single problem there.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
" I've seen videos of houses of innocent people being attacked by the IDF"
The IDF isn't perfect, but it isn't a terorist organization either. Mnay pictures and other forms of media are used for propaganda means. This isn't new. Plus, consider your claim. If it's okay for Palestinians to act barbarically because they are allegedly acting out of "desperation," why can't I use the same argument with israel?
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai OK I get that you don't like the UN. I don't either. But you can't dismiss everything they say based on other things they have done or said. It's very clear that it is completely wrong to take people's land. Do you agree with that? Do you think it's okay for Israel to take the land? Please tell me why that's okay. And tell me why you would not fight back if your land were taken from you.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
@regelemihai "A supporter of Hamas has the gall to talk about human shields."
What a classic generalization. I want the people of Palestine to be free, so therefore I support Hamas? Seriously? Are you really degrading yourself to THAT method of thinking? I would like to see evidence that Israel gives warnings of attacks. White Phosphorus is a horrible weapon, and yes Hamas does use it, but not nearly the amount that Israel uses it.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
@regelemihai And when I say "it certainly is easy to confuse genocide with an act of self defense," I mean that there are a lot of idiots out there that can't tell the difference.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
"Why do you turn a blind eye to genocide Israel is committing against the citizens of Palestine?"
I'm afraid that by using this term you don't really know what genocide really means. It's a cute politicaly charged slur, but it doesn't hold water. Why not just engage in a rational conversation without resorting to these fanciful labels? They don't stick.
Wikileaks can say what it wants, Israel provides Gazans regularly with humanitarian aid and goods despite the fact that they're....
regelemihai 10 months ago
...being rocketed by Hamas. "I want the people of Palestine to be free, so therefore I support Hamas?"
"Free" in what sense? Would uprooting Jewish settlers from every single Gazan settlment be considered a capitulation? Because that's what isarel did. Would it be to let Gazans hold free elections? Because that's what it did. I dunno how you define the word "free", and I'd be suspicious since you also define the word genocide as you see fit.
regelemihai 10 months ago
" I would like to see evidence that Israel gives warnings of attacks."
Gladly.
/watch?v=NhI230oCT7Y&feature=channel_video_title
Also, try accessing(I can't find the link) the Israeli Embassy website. Numerous exmaples of phone calls and leaflets being dropped. Like: "To the residents of the Gaza Strip
The IDF will act against any movements and elements conducting terrorist activities against the residents of the State of Israel.
The IDF will hit and destroy any building or ammunition
regelemihai 10 months ago
@regelemihai That is not a warning of an attack good enough to prevent innocent people from being killed. We all know that the people of Palestine are treated as terrorists until proven otherwise, so essentially what Israel is warning is that they will attack Palestine if they see "terrorist activities". Too vague. The IDF can attack whenever and whoever they want, and they do. Why don't you go ahead and have a look at the death tolls since the beginning of the conflict?
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
@regelemihai A free Palestine would mean that all of those that lost their land to Israeli settlers would get their land back, the apartheid wall would be taken down, and the people of Palestine and Israel would join for a one state solution in which everyone is treated equally. I understand your fear-based thought process does not believe that this would work, but it absolutely would. The video you linked to shows Hamas using human shields, which I did not at all deny.
HumanaeAdAstra 10 months ago
"A free Palestine would mean that all of those that lost their land to Israeli settlers would get their land back."
Which they did in Gaza. They gave it ALL back, removed settlers by force to pander to those savages requests and instead of peace they received a record number of rockets and attacks. It was stupid that they made that move to begin with, and when they look at what ahppened in Gaza they feel, how shall we say--iffy when they contemplate the prospect of giving back the West Bank..
regelemihai 10 months ago
...to the same barbarians who rocketing them from Gaza.
" the apartheid wall would be taken down."
Again you and your liberal usage of the english language. It's not an Apartheid wall. Not close. It wasn't put in place just for the sake of segragating them; it was done out of SELF DEFENSE. Try to get that through your head. There's no parallel. Nada.
"The video you linked to shows Hamas using human shields"
You didn't watch the video then; you just read the title. If you...
regelemihai 10 months ago
..keep watching it shows the network interviewing Gazans in the street who say that the IDF has called them on their cells and home phones issusing warning prior to the bombings. And I'm glad you're not denying they're using human shields, but then again why do you keep refusing to accept the fact that it is collateral damage?
"That is not a warning of an attack good enough to prevent innocent people from being killed"
With all due respect, what you personally believe is not an...
regelemihai 10 months ago
...objective standard. Just because you don't think it's good enough doesn't mean it isn't. They fulfilled their responsability. They issued warnings both telephonically and in writing. What more can they do? What other country that is engaged in warfare does this?
"The IDF can attack whenever and whoever they want, and they do."
Nonsense, they attack whenever they're attacked, which it is, as I said, a provision of the UN charter. They warn the citizens and bomb terorrist cells.
regelemihai 10 months ago
"Why don't you go ahead and have a look at the death tolls since the beginning of the conflict?"
Why do I have to? The number of dead isn't an indicator of anything other than the fact that Hamas uses its citizens as a means, and that Israel is more developed millitarily. It doesn't demonstrate a moral dimension by any means.
" Do you agree with that? Do you think it's okay for Israel to take the land?"
Listen, I'll grant you that there are religious nutjobs who do build their...
regelemihai 10 months ago
...settlments out of some wacko religious motivation. I dislike them too, just as you do. But it is disingenuous to say that the West Bank belongs 100% to the Palestinians. I simply don't agree with that. Those territories were shared by both Jews and Arabs before 1948. To say that it's a purely Palestinian land just because they became a majority after those lands were taken by force by Jordan is wrongheaded.
I believe, as you do too, that a two state solution must be reached.
regelemihai 10 months ago
If anyone want to know more on how the reputation of Israel is upheld here in the U.S. Please google "The Hasbara Handbook". Mainly, you will be educated on the types of debate style that are used to accomplish this. It definitely opens your eyes to what is going on.
theman4130 10 months ago
Great video bro. You'll have muslims try to spin the situation but nobody buys they're rhetoric but themselves....because that's the people they actually are trying to convince.
xCrusaderxMilesx 11 months ago
i have to say, i doubt the accuracy of this post. i usually like Dee Loren, but he's usually talking economics. this i think probably lies outside his relative expertise.
just my opinion
100CommonCents 11 months ago
Poor people getting healthcare = terrible afront to freedom
Palestinians getting no healthcare, no construction material, no food, etc: Perfectly acceptable, why would anyone oppose this?
Ihatenames101 1 year ago
@Ihatenames101 aid, food, medical care, provided (mostly) paying taxes in Israel . Palestinians fire missiles at them in return, Israel thek out the tens of thousands of Jewish residents (in 2005), hers from Gaza to the Palestinians develop a state space, they preferred to use the funds to weapons And not building the economy, houses and establish a state , they brought their situation upon themselves
asaf921 10 months ago
@Ihatenames101 Before that the border between Israel and Gaza, and to Gazans had free access to Israel, they made suicide attacks on a daily basis (I can write about attacks + dates to prove myself) that they did not say in the media, Israel is the most moral country in the world (Feed those who attack it)
asaf921 10 months ago
@Ihatenames101 ha ya zalme
wen saki ainti???
asaf921 10 months ago
3:00
They weren't holding aid? They were bringing aid.
When the Israeli's entered the ship, the people on the ship defended themselves with makeshift weapons (ie: kitchen knives).
You repeatedly claimed that they weren't bringing aid, and that's just a flat out lie.
And you also mentioned the videos that came out.
There was a stream that showed the event AS IT HAPPENED, and it clearly showed that the Israelis fired at the ship before boarding.
Ihatenames101 1 year ago
Why does everyone attack Isreal, At least they don't stone a man to death simply for being gay. Take Saudi Arabia for example, any religiouse minority there are brutaly persicuted, they murder their women for being raped, they openly support terrorist and ship ant-western homophobic liturture into the west and constantly abuse people human rights. Stop attacking Isreal and take a good hard look at the other thugs out there, thei JUST as bad, infact their a WHOLE lot worse.
meatisdeliciouse 1 year ago
@meatisdeliciouse, they are just another backwards, intolerant, statist regime. Sure, some countries are worse, but they are hardly the beacon of progress in the middle east. I could argue and make the case that they are alot worse then saudi arabia and the like, but then it just comes down to "well this statistic shows this, and this event proves this", and it's completely beside the point and irrelevant.
They are fundamentally wrong and the problems are only going to get worse.
Houshalter 1 year ago
Obama actualy KEEPS his promices, he said he would end DADT and he DID. Nixon was a lying faciset ass hole, Obama is much better and he is a man of his word.
meatisdeliciouse 1 year ago
@meatisdeliciouse Obama also promised to repeal the PATRIOT act but has continued it. He also promised to keep unemployment below 8% and its around 9%. All presidents break promises.
ZM7241994 1 year ago
@ZM7241994 Well 9% is only 1.1% away from actual keeping the promices, congress are as much to blame for the failures to keep those vows. America is not a dictator ship and like here in the UK all laws have to be voted on such as parliment and if the majority say no the proposal des not become legislation. Barack Obama ACTUALY promiced to END DADT and he DID, NO other president hase EVER given rights to the gay comunity such as Barack OBAMA
meatisdeliciouse 1 year ago
@meatisdeliciouse, politicians have no real power, the special interest groups run the government for the most part.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter Thats a good thig and a bad thing, it all depends on your point of view, I'm just disenpointed that neither George B or Bill C either tried to over turn DADT, they never really adressesd the isue, Change hapens slowly and too slow if you ask me in certain areas, theconologicaly were extreamly syphysticated, in some social aspects were back the the dark ages.
meatisdeliciouse 1 year ago
@meatisdeliciouse, why does it matter? No nuclear armed country has ever been invaded, infact it's extremely rare for a politically stable first world country to get engaged in major conflicts. We don't need a military at all, so who cares if gay people can work in it or not? It's like the polticians are dangling carrots infront of us. "Oh, you want gays to have rights? Well, I'll see if I can make some minor changes over if you give me a bunch of support."
Houshalter 1 year ago
@ZM7241994 The other presidents did not even try to repeal DADT, so on my opinion Obama is the best one. Barack Obama may try to over turn the patriot act again some time in the future, you never know, he might succed. He's only been in office for 2 and a bit years, there are plaenty more things he could do, like have a nation wide AOC of 18 rather than 14 in places, there is lots he could do, there plaenty more use in this one yet.
meatisdeliciouse 1 year ago
@meatisdeliciouse You said Obama keeps his promises but it is clear that he hasn't. I am not trying to say Obama is a terrible president, but that he is no better then Bush.
ZM7241994 1 year ago
They fucking bulldoze over miles of houses without any warning.
Got news for you. The citizens of Arizona are about to bulldoze their borderline.
kiptoy123 1 year ago
I refrain from commenting on this particular subject, other than to say that Israel is THE BIGGEST thorn in the side of America and the West!
WizardKing78 1 year ago
I like hot this dude pretends to be a journalist and pretends to be a pundit but he's really just a douche with a webcam.
mistermoen 1 year ago
@mistermoen exactly my thoughts. he's just another self righteous ignorant american who lives in his little bubble thinking he knows everything. he summarized the gaza situation under 10 seconds, which was plain retarded lol
never mind the 60 plus years before that, or that gaza was under occupation sine 1967; hamas being an actual democratic elected government. seriously this guy is a douche
xplosivelilly 11 months ago
@xplosivelilly Why wasn't Gaza seeking to be a free Palestinian entity when they were under Egyptian control until 1967? Why not the cries against the "Egyptian occupation of Gaza?" Your just another ignorant scumbag. Go to hell with your "I'm not anti-Jewish im anti-Zionist" crap. If you were really for peace and justice you would be against all the terrorism performed on Israelis just as much as you condemn Israel's actions. You and the whole free Palestine movement are phony assholes.
TheCharles3669 11 months ago
@xplosivelilly I agree. He misses the history leading up to what is happening, and why.
theman4130 10 months ago
I think that the commenter here is right. The convoy was clearly a public relations stunt. Unfortunately, Israel blundered right into it. The Israelis should develop a means of responding to stunts like these with finesse, even if it means holding back.
joannegerber 1 year ago
You look like Buddy Holly.
GaeasBlessing 1 year ago
Israel is our only ally in the middle east so people shouldn't criticize them, plus they have the same objective as us, stop Iran and terrorism.
swinefluPANIC 1 year ago
@swinefluPANIC Dude, Israel IS performing acts of terrorism, and the U.S. is funding them. And the U.S. is an ally to Israel because it's very strategic for us to set up military bases in the Middle East there--not out of some compassion for the Jewish people.
hymage 1 year ago
Just cause Israel is our ally, that doesn't grant them immunity from criticism, in fact, we should criticize and scrutinize them more as our allies.
Israel bombing the fuck out of schools and bulldozing homes most certainly deserve our criticism, as this is the image we do not want our allies to have. Hiding the problem won't solve it.
xXshinzoXx 1 year ago
@xXshinzoXx I agree. And I think that something needs to be done, but I think the reason nothing has been done is because we don't want to ruin our diplomatic relations with Israel. Plus they needed to do something to defend their country and they did. But I agree that they should be more precise a bout killing the bad guys and not bulldozing their people's home.
swinefluPANIC 1 year ago
Damn, look at the haters come out of the woodwork!
LeQuack147 1 year ago
LETS BLOW UP ISRAEL OUT OF THE WORLD. SUCCSESS = 100%
aykutmeTM 1 year ago
america bumlicks isreal
samonlinealltime 1 year ago
People can have their biases against Israel and hate them for what they want, but I don't understand people attacking Israel on this issue. In this particular case Israel was in the right. I AM NOT SAYING IN ALL CASES! i think it is safe to say in this one instance Israel was in the right
TheFPSCenter 1 year ago
Epic glasses!
OolTube02 1 year ago
a naive(?) simple mind in ANYTHING he says - good enough for your corner hoodlum dumbas shooting shit - but don't insult listeners with such high sounding name and then produce uninformed Zionist ra ra - keep your Pro-Israel crap shoots for your family, and don't bring up Germany, because you probably even don't know where that is!
velcoryn 1 year ago
I actually wanted to comment on the video no in your comment. This yank seems to dont know anything about the video, just only what he watches on FOX NEWS. First of all the ships where already inspected from the Turkish authories, which is the closest israeli ally in the region and they didnt have any weapons, but in his ignorance they are all arabes, muslims and terrorists
toneee360 1 year ago
. Second of all, Hamas just shoot homemade rockects which dont reach far and barely hurt anybody which doesnt allow them to bomb the whole gaza and blockade them
toneee360 1 year ago
. Palestinian only eat from what the UN has to offer. In the west bank there are about 800.000 settles which have taken most of the land of the palestinians. plus military areas of the israeli army which leave the palestinians cities isolated and they get hostilities from settlers plus military incursions. not to metion that they got the water supplies cut and their lands are drying out. You are just a dumb fuck and I cant believe people actually watch your videos they are worthless.
toneee360 1 year ago
As long as Israel continues to break the Geneva convention, they have no one to blame except themselves. The are like the weak kid in the playground who uses their big brother to bully other little kids around. America should be ashamed for holding up this farce for so long and we are only obliged to keep this charade as long as Zionist bankers, lobbyists, and politicians continue to tug the strings in Washington. They will bleed America dry to survive and then move on like a parasite.
GregorEzpo 1 year ago
Your Ignorant...
See the violationS of Israel of the ONU:
Resolution 279: (May 12, 1970) "Demands the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory, SINCE THEN over 80 violations from the Israel gov. You sir, dont know SQUAT on the world.
22700p 1 year ago
it's too bad this video misses the basic problem with the blockade: it doesn't stop the rockets. they're assembled using basic parts in home labs using whatever the fuck they can find. if they were some kind of technological masterpiece, the supply would've dried up long ago. the blockade is a collective punishment is an attempt to collectively punish the gazans for the military actions of hamas, a violation of the laws of war and all things good and civil (as are the rocket attacks).
MrDevilBunny 1 year ago
The people of Palestine have a right to defend themselves. Trade sanctions are an act of war, that ship was boarded in international waters, and the cammandos did not shoot 'back' because no one shot at them, they were attacked with sticks, and responded with automatic fire.... I saw a slingshot, i saw no flash bangs, or military equipment of anykind.... and all those thousands of rockets, how many people have they killed?
metagordian 1 year ago
@metagordian You can kill someone with socks. Military grade equipment is not required to cause harm.
If the ship had agreed to be redirected to a harbour for inspection (for such things as weapons and other supplies to construct them) wouldn't a humanitarian aid ship agree to be redirected if all they had was in fact humanitarian aid?
Cont
wormer104 1 year ago
@metagordian If someone orders you stop or get boarded who's fault is it when (after you don't stop) you get boarded?
Furthermore why resist at all? Isn't rendering aid to the needy more important?
Why resist a search? If all they had was humanitarian aid they could have passed through within hours and delivered their cargo.
The Only reason they'd resist is if in allowing a search the result would be the same.
wormer104 1 year ago
@wormer104 .... Listen to your self, "socks can be used to kill" (paraphrased) if the zionists think that socks are a deadly weapon, then so is toothpaste, and alot of other things.... Things that arent weapons at all.... its because they have that mentality that they would not alow themselves to be boarded....
metagordian 1 year ago
@metagordian *sighs* In prison you are allowed socks (handhold) and a bar of soap (weight).
It can be used to strangle as well.
Point being that the absence of military hardware does not at any point equal decreased danger.
wormer104 1 year ago
Did HTWW really just defend Israel? They fucking bulldoze over miles of houses without any warning. They violate international law all the time, and they are one of the most racist, amoral countries on this planet.
Houshalter 1 year ago 17
@Houshalter
I bet you're the type of guy who goes to the casino and asks for his money back after he's blown it all at the craps table.
elsquibbs 1 year ago
@elsquibbs, Really? That's your best reply? Really? WTF does a casino have to do with Israel. At most, a casino takes money from unwise gamblers. Israel bulldozes over children, blows up entire buildings based on sketchy information there could be an enemy in it, shoots at unarmed civilians, has apartheid laws, uses illegal weapons, forces sections of the population into poverty, etc.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. If Israel is so racist, why does a study by Harvard indicate that 77% of people of Arab ethnicity living in Israel say they perfer it there over their home country? And why do they enjoy the same rights upon citizenship as Israelites?
Also, Israel has made some mistakes, sure. No country hasn't done their fair share of wrong. But for anyone to insist that what Israel does is up there with Hamas is sanctioningreal evil.
BlackWolf4830 1 year ago
@BlackWolf4830, Really, the people on the Gaza strip prefer it there? I'm sure they may want to live in their homeland rather then give in, but I seriously doubt anyone believes for a momment conditions are better for them. Look, I'm sure Israel isn't as bad or evil as people make it out to be, but to blatantly deny such attrocities, or claim they are justified, it makes me sick.
At least watch this: watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter Umm ok you must live in backwards world...a world where Israel surrounds Islamic nations and shoots bombs into Islamic nations threatening to wipe them off of the face of the earth and this not even a century after a mass racist holocaust. Dont be stupid dude...the world works like dominoes...if you do something something else will happen. if you want Israel to to be a better Israel you have to have to first stop all the blood sucking vultures surrounding her from making threats.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@jamlimited3, I'm sure you believe that, but it's absurd to say the least. I believe anyone has the right to fight against any organization or government that violates their life liberty or property. When Israel landmines civilian areas, when they blockade "sovereign" nations they are not at war with, when they use weapons that are against the geneva convention, when they fire into crowds for no reason, or seize territory illegally, they are violating all of those things.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@jamlimited3 When are ignorant pricks like you going to stop swallowing Zionist propaganda? Ahmadinejad said he wanted to wipe Zionism off the map NOT Israel and there are many Jews who agree with him.
HoosierMF 1 year ago
@HoosierMF You dont think I got the memo? You know the one where people now use that as their excuse to silence people who expose men like Ahmadinejad? Please spare me...I know why Ahmadinejizzad said what he said and I know why he mentioned the Mahdi when he said it. Hes not talking about using clorox bleach to wipe out zionism now is he talking about issuing school books and campaigns to sway people's opinions...no he's talking jihad and muslims sing songs in arabic about such a bloody era.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@jamlimited3 What memo is this? JDL? You're the one making excuses. Typical Zionist apologist incapable of backing up any of your claims.
HoosierMF 1 year ago
@Houshalter I'm sure both sides have done their fair share of first punches. However, do you see anything on the news about Hamas launching rockets? Of course not. Like HTWW said, you either don't know the facts or don't want to listen.
Palestine is not perfect, stop hating just because you're Muslim or Christian.
RyanStash 1 year ago
@RyanStash, I have no idea what you are trying to say but I find it hard to believe you can defend Israel's tyrrany.
The situation is almost exactly the same as America was with the native americans in the 19th century. A small rebelious tribe would slaughter a group of civilians because they took their land, and the army would go through and attack any group of indians they could find, and eventually ship them off to reservations where they were dependent on the state for almost everything.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter I take it you've never heard of Palestine?
SardonicSkeptic 1 year ago
@SardonicSkeptic, and that justifies bulldozing over homes and shooting children how?
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter bulldozing homes of terrorists? and no one is shooting children, youve been fed up lies, search for 'pallywood' on youtube
itachi301989 1 year ago