Gregorian Chant-Pater Noster

[skrivbok]

Rom. 10:9

Ty om du med din mun bekänner Jesus vara Herre och i ditt hjärta tror att Gud har uppväckt honom från de döda, då bliver du frälst

[Itsasgizon27]

But you don't know Euskera, which is a Preindoeuropean language that resisted the other languages through milleniums! For more info, search for it and for the Basque Country, a land that wants to be independent. A land which is awesome for it's beauty. A land that needs freedom and recognisance.

[TheMexican1821]

I know Spanish which comes from Latin and I could tell without looking it up Pater Noster in ,Spanish Padre nuestro, in English our Father

[jrmetmoi]

No wonder monks and nuns sound great singing, they have to spend once a day practicing singing and then performing it every Sunday. Practicing will become perfection naturally!

[SummerCroatia]

Nothing in this world can convince me there is no God. I promise you all. There is God! Try read Bible a bit, don't be sceptic and hate it. Don't think about stupid 1000 of other religions and wars. Just take Bible and read. I am shure, i promise you, you will find yourself in it, you will cry, you will start to think that there is something ... After that pick a good boat to float on! I suggest to pick cruser (Catholic faith) coz it exist 1900 years and Jesus made it over Saint Peter.

[Anomalous59]

@SummerCroatia Judging by your disparaging linking of other religions to stupidity and war, you don't sound at all like a person who has actually read the Bible.

[torysama]

Ohh I love Gregorian Chant

[warinatube]

Lyrics to Pater Noster : Pater noster, qui es in coelis Sanctificetur nomen Tuum Adveniat regnum Tuum Fiat voluntas Tua Sicut in coelo et in terra Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie Et dimitte nobis debita nostra Sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris Et ne nos inducas in tentationem Sed libera nos a malo Amen

[blckdays]

I'm a MUSLIM and i really enjoy these chants !!!

[travpoet]

@blckdays - I'm athiest and I like them too!

[MontChevalier]

@blckdays If your radicalist brothers have their way, you won't ever get to hear this ever again.

[Slovjan]

@blckdays thank you friend, may God bless you! :)

[blckdays]

@Slovjan  :)

[chaise1012]

@blckdays thank you brother...

[Auronkatamail]

@blckdays It's good to hear that, thank you for your comment. =)

[MrGomesAndrade]

Thanks God latin was banished from the masses!!! So people could finally understand what the priest was saying and check if that was true. An evolution like the translation of the Bible. That was very easy for the priest say whatever he wanted to control the faithful ones, once they didn't understand a word.

[vikratos]

What are they singing before they start the Prayer?

[siesni1]

szkoda że tak nie ma u mnie w kościele..aż ciary przechodzą

[Somespatanwarrior]

excuse me but I must ask, why have mass in latin? Is there anything special about it? If so why not have it in aremaic as that was Jesus's language so it would only make sense.

[newrev9er]

@Somespatanwarrior In response to your question: Latin had been the language of the Roman Empire, and it allowed people from across the empire to communicate with one another regardless of their homeland. As you know, Rome eventually adopted Christianity as its official religion. After the collapse of Rome, Latin remained as the common language of Europe (and into the near East), at least among the learned. So the Church continued to use Latin in its services as a symbol of Christian unity :)

[Somespatanwarrior]

@newrev9er Thank you for the response!

[newrev9er]

@Somespatanwarrior You're welcome!

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Correct, apart from the fact that the Church's use of Latin had nothing to do with "symbolizing Christian unity" and everything to do with the clerisy's desire to maintain an "educated" monastic elite perched above the ignorant peasant populace, as well as the stupid superstition that the language possessed some sort of mystical or magical quality and was thus the required language for ritual incantations.

[newrev9er]

@Anomalous59 I don't mean to pull rank on you, but I'm currently an MA student in medieval history, with no undue attachment to the Catholic Church. Your perspective on this issue seems to be historically 'novel,' to say the least. Tell me which historians' works you have read that lead you to your conclusion that the medieval clergy were somehow intent on maintaining a monastic elite "perched above the ignorant peasant populace." Frankly, it sounds like your parroting old, entrenched myths.

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Well, happily, "pulling rank" on me will not make you right. Since it is a well-known fact that the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages did in fact limit its preaching to the Latin language, and since there is no logic in preaching "God's word" solely in a language that the audience did not understand for the purpose of "Christian unity", it is not a stretch at all for me to assert a different rationale, regardless of whether historians do the same.

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Also, I am completely perplexed by how you can call my perspective both "novel" and "old and entrenched" only a sentence apart.

[newrev9er]

@Anomalous59 Replace 'novel' with 'foolish' and you'll have my meaning. Public preaching was exclusively in the vernacular. The Gospels and Old Testament were read (exclusively) in Latin at mass. The clergy was not even reading in Latin, and most could barely say the Mass, so they could hardly preach in it. Vernacular preaching of the scriptures was widely practiced by Cathedral canons, Dominican and Franciscan monks and other religious orders. So the Church did not "limit its preaching."

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Well, this is certainly news to me. It's too bad Martin Luther didn't know this back then; we could've gone without the Reformation!

[newrev9er]

@Anomalous59 Martin Luther objected to the praying of the mass in Latin. And the sale of indulgences. And clerical corruption. And the pope's concupiscence. And a thousand other (legitimate) concerns. The only concern of his which I cannot sympathise with is his insistence on publishing the Bible in German, when there were neither the resources nor the readers for it at the time. But ultimately his reasons for separating from the Church were theological. That, and being excommunicated.

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Right, so why was the praying of the mass (and the reading of scripture at mass, as you mentioned before) done in Latin, again?

It seems to me that I am being completely uncontroversial when I observe that the Catholic Church has a rich history of feeding on public fear and ignorance (you mentioned several instances just now), and that my explanation for the use of Latin fits in just as well, if not better, in the framework of Catholic practice as yours. Where am I wrong?

[newrev9er]

@Anomalous59 It was done for the sake of tradition. Remember, to the medieval Church (and the average Christian) the mass was not a lecture or a time for spiritual instruction. It was the highest, most sublime form of prayer, and so the important thing for a layman was to 'participate' in the offering interiorly. More or less silent prayer, in communion with the priest. This was not widely understood, due to the ignorance of priests (at least until Trent, but by then Luther had separated).

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Well, I have no problem with that. It has simply always been my understanding that the Church would find itself in an awkward position with respect to certain of its practices, such as indulgence sales, which--and you're probably the superior authority on this--were an extremely important source of income, if it ever were to face a laity actually capable of perusing the Holy Texts for themselves to find that no such construct is, in fact, ever mentioned.

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er With respect to this, it has always struck me as no great surprise that the one who did eventually attempt to break this cycle was a man "on the inside"; a genuine Latin reader. It is not my understanding that the literacy rate of peasants in the Middle Ages was very impressive outside monastic societies. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, again, this does not strike me as a controversial assertion.

[Anomalous59]

@newrev9er Don't get me wrong, by the way; you may be right. I just don't find you, let's say, at your most convincing right now. In fact, I feel like I've yet to hear your counter-argument. Furthermore, you seem to be the one making the extraordinary claim in this dispute, namely that the Church did *not* have a vested interest in temporal, secular power that might be weakened by a lay population with access to scripture. Much of what I've been schooled in about the MA depends upon this.

[puberis]

@newrev9er It was my understanding that the "Near East", at least as defined today, was under the influence of the Eastern half of the Empire, and thus dominated by Greek. In the Medieval Era, Latin wasn't a common language east of the belt of Catholic Slavic states from Poland down to the Balkans. Eastern Orthodox sure didn't (doesn't) use Latin in any way either.

[newrev9er]

@puberis Yes, of course you're right. When I said "into the near East" I just meant that their were some influential Latin-speaking individuals in the area. Well, I guess they probably would have spoke Latin as a second language, since as you pointed out, they would have spoken Greek. Thanks for correcting me though :)

[puberis]

@newrev9er No, thank you, haha. I was ready to put it to ya until I read your back and forth with that other guy here and found out you're going for your MA in Medieval Studies. I second guessed myself then, and had to rethink my comment in a more humble manner just in case! :P My main falt was that I couldn't remember whether that big law compendium Justinian compiled was in Latin or Greek, but apparently it contains pieces in both languages.

[puberis]

@newrev9er I mean, "fault". Thought that looked funny. They really should have an edit button for these posts...

[Micelli1947]

I, myself was educated in Catholic schools from 1953 to1965, and went to Mass every day before school. When the Second Vatican Council was held in 1961 in Rome with Pope John the XXIII abolished LATIN from the HOLY MASS I was in total astonishment!! The LATIN MASS should be CELEBERATED in the Holy Roman Catholic Church every day!! GLORIA IN EXCELUIS DEO

[neninha72]

Lindo.. Gloria a Deus nas alturas para todos os séculos...

[muisire]

So for centuries before Vatican II people did not understand the Mass? So why were the churches full in the forties, fifties and sixties?

No, people like my parents and grandparents had no knowledge of Latin but they went to Mass until the their dying days. They understood the Mass very well indeed BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. I remember when I was about nine sitting in a darkened church in Cork City with my mother. We understood nothing. My mother is gone but that memory never fades...

[TheSanity12345]

@muisire In my opinion there is no reason to go to chuch if u do not understand anything. The Word of God is the most important thing, it cannot be compared anything else.. The reason u even go to chuch is hopefully to hear the words of god and the bible and share your religious passion with the christian community...

[mojo476]

@TheSanity12345 Do you think that people have more knowledge or less knowledge of Scripture since the language of the Mass has changed? God, in his omniscient wisdom invented these wonderful things called Missals. Missals have the text in Latin and English side by side!

The missal allows you to leave your "religious passion" outside the church, then kneel and be edified by God's perfect praise and sacrifice to Himself.

[muisire]

So for centuries before Vatican II people did not understand the Mass? So why were the churches full in the fifties and sixties and why are they so half full now?

No, people like my parents and grandparents had no knowledge of Latin but they went to Mass until the their dying days. They understood the Mass very well indeed BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. I remember when I was about nine sitting in a darkened church in Cork City with my Tenebrae. We understood nothing but what a memory ...

[StJohnsNYC]

Beautiful!

[TSDTRADER]

Latin was removed from the masses during Vatican II so that the masses could understand the mass, and what they were professing belief in and what was going on. Vatican II greatly increased the importance of the laity in the church, and in the mass. In order to be incorporated into the mass, they had to know what was going on. Latin is beautiful, but understanding and connection with God is far more beautiful!

[sue200012]

Ask your pastor for a Latin Mass. I go to one every day. :)

[ivaflimkien]

Bring back the Tridentine Mass NAO!!!!!!

[atlanta96player]

muito bom!

[Aeternitis]

Dei plena sunt omnia!

[lippertism]

O by the way, can anyone tell me what they are saying? I do not know Laten YET but most ashurdly I WILLLLLL!

[rudolfhess666]

@lippertism they are singing the "our father" prayer or "the lords prayer" i am not shure what it is called in english (german "Vater unser")

[Killermuffin1]

@lippertism Pater noster, qui es in cælis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in cælo et in terra. Panem nostrum, quotidianum, da nobis hodie. Et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

[lippertism]

And am not being mean to anyone out there, but Jesus did found the Roman Catholic Church and his Early Christians AKA Discipols, 12 and then the 70, so, and I love the devotions, it brings me closer to him in all most wonderful ways, if you feel the same, RIGHT BACK TO ME, Thanks and God Bless

[lippertism]

Jesus had founded the chants, the devotions and all that. Some people , Evangelicals, even some Catholics and Orthodoxys don't believe in these thing and that Jesus had founded them. Read the Bible and you will see. I am curently 15 yrs of age and going to convert to the RC Church because I believe they are closer to god than what Protestants are.

[SlinginWithJay]

Ah, nothing like some good, old fashioned, meaningless bickering between people who all believe in the same God.  Come on guys, shut up and enjoy the chant.

[Leold1]

@Baritone45 Latin is the traditional language of the Church and won't ever be completely gone from Catholic Mass. Latin prayer is in no way incantations, its a language that can be learned with practice. I never took Latin classes but I enjoy Latin chants because I feel connected with other people all over the world and across time that used that used Latin in their glorification of God and Jesus Christ.

You seem to be the intolerant one here in slandering someone for their method of worship.

[lgigineishvili]

Dominus, Deus, cantabo ad te!

[martinkun167]

Eastern Orthodox is more beautiful; I find Catholic chants to be too simplistic,

[Joaoettinger1]

Graças a Deus!

[TheChosenOne2902]

Now imagine that experiencing on a Mass in a huge gothic cathedral with that glommy and mistic atmosphere made by the light crossing through the vitrais, with the smell of incense and hundreds of people around you feeling same as you amazed and sublimed, it would be a truly ascending experience.

[ShotokanBleach]

Ave Maria. Salve Regina.

[TheMartin1162]

How an ancient language they call a dead language is putting such a fight to be alive.

como una lengua antigua como el latin, la cual es considerada una lengua muerta aun pone tan formidable pelea para sobrevivir, Latin the language of WORLDS.!!

[victorytouma]

Gregorian chants exalts my soul. Thank you my Lord for the "Our Father" prayer.

[poutines200]

c'est bien mieux que les naiserie des musulmans

[skrivbok]

@poutines200 English please?

[Clipwizards]

@skrivbok This is just the Our Father in Latin. IF you know it in English then....

[YaakovSarafian]

@poutines200 .... Et moi, je suis juif et plus que 100% d'accord avec toi -:) Je dirais toutefois que ces chants-ci sont beaux tandis que ceux des musulmans sont dégoûtant à l'esprit -:)

[Aniela60]

@poutines200 Comment peux tu dire qu'un chant adressé à Dieu est une niaiserie? Les musulmans, les juifs et les chrétiens ont le même Dieu et rien que pour ça, on se doit de se respecter mutuellement...

[SalMessina1]

Ho gli attributi commossi !

[crazyviking24]

I have a question. What does Pater Noster mean in English? I unfortunately was not raised Catholic and only recently began listening to Gregorian Chants.

[NiteStarGirl]

@crazyviking24 Pater Noster is Latin and means "Our Father". It is from the Latin version of the Lord's Prayer, and used in this way in the Roman Catholic church :)

[rwp80rwp80]

@crazyviking24 'God Almighty' (Google) tells me it means "Our Father".

[Combat242]

It is not just to “bring back the Latin mass” so pseudo-catholic can feel good. It is all about the revitalise the True Catholic faith, the Traditional values that the 2 Vatican Council destroyed. You can’t just go to a traditional Mass and keep living the way you do. You have to live traditional.

[austrialex]

In my church in Vienna, Austria we have a lot of Latin Masses.

Every Day

Just come to Vienna and visit St.Rochus

[morrink]

I love my catholic faith, but my heart is broken becouse of the child abuse.

[SummerCroatia]

Catholic Church was created by God, Jesus, Jesua, is God. His apostol, Peter was first pope.

If there was not Catholic Church man, can you imagine what kind of world would this be? You wouldn't even know for Jesus Christ if there was no Catholic Church. She was the one that true history kept faith in Jesus.

You wouldn't even hear for Jesus if there was no brave apostols that were Church!

[MrAdel007]

I prefer mass in latin

[henoch66]

The church is not dead onley the system , Rome is dieing. The real mystici are still in this world ! They always have been there. That is the coming change in the next time !

[SummerCroatia]

Church will be till the end of the world.

I am hope you are not sad coz of that mate.

I am 24 years old and God over the Catholic Church changed my life. I was nothing, zero, no life, and now i have so much that Jesus gave me.

I could never thank God enough, my whole life and family is in Gods Jesus hands.

I surender you my life Jesus, thank you Jesus!

God bless you all!

[LeProutski]

you can give your life to jesus if you want ... you dont need the church for it... man was created by god but the church was created by man... you dont need the church to believe in god

[SianBudois]

@SummerCroatia So you didn't do anything to change your own life? You just sat there until it changed? Odd notion.

[SummerCroatia]

@SianBudois

My father was alcoholic 23 years, i grow up in that enviorment and i fell 2 grades in highschool. After i started praying (when i fell 2 grades and started nightschool) and when i started to go to Catholic Church I changed. I finished night school, went on collage. Finished collage with average 5,0, my father stopped drinking (soon will be 3 years) and it all happened because i prayed Jesus Christ to help me!!! I couldn't help myself, only Jesus could save me and my family.

[SianBudois]

@SummerCroatia look, I have no intent in starting things, I just find it odd. it sounds like you studied really hard, which shows great focus about yourself. As for your father, I couldn't be happier for him, alcoholism is a terrible disease and I'm sure he's a better man for freeing himself from it. As in both cases, it takes a lot of willpower to keep going and not give up, but that's human nature, we need to take credit for that.

Again, I'm happy for both of you.

[SummerCroatia]

@SianBudois

You couldn't be more wrong. It is not about willpower. It is not about my strength. There are numeros cases on collage where i should fall (have F) or have B or didn't learn...and i prayed and I got A grade. Numerous.

You have to realize we humans are so small and limited, that it really is hard to belive there is something we can't see but exists. And it really does, just open your hearth and think about it. Who made you? Look what your body does and can do. Who made that?

[henoch66]

It is sad that we have lost it in the Church. But that is logic because most people, even the church its selve, do not understand the hidden cure for the hart and mind. I onley can say seek for it and find the peace in it. And sing Gregorian chants.

[henoch66]

Gregorian chants are meditative. Food for the soule. Has nothing to do with a dead Language. It is an forgotten practice. But very valuale for your mind ! I can onley say, chant it !

[FEDECHICCO86]

yes Latin is a dead-language.. off course,and it's not a bad thing... i'm italian and i studied Latin for 5 years in the secondary school. Dead-language means that no one use it currently.

i m sorry for my english.

ps: people that sing in this chant is from france? i hearded a not good pronunctiation of "R"

[LeProutski]

you should never apologize for your english... at least you know more than one language...

[babyycat]

No your dead.

[quadbravo]

Thanks for posting. This is one of the best versions you will hear.

[quadbravo]

Awesome!

[RightChocobo]

I am in high school and am taking Latin, secondarily for a career in medicine, but primarily to be able to connect with the Lord God on what to me is a more spiritual manner, becaise I think Latin is a beautiful language.

[Altarcraft]

Isn't Latin a dead language?

[RightChocobo]

Yeah. But there are Latin masses.

[amelia2710]

@Altarcraft no, latin has been spoken everyday since the romans and was never interrupted. It is still spoken today by the Church

[1seticat]

The meaning of Latin words are the same today as 2000 years ago. So there is no changing what was written. Students of Latin do better in school and on SAT scores. One of the greatest successes the devil has had is changing the meaning of words. Its not a baby,but a fetus? Everyone should be tolerant? I'm not tolerant of everything or I would be indifferent. "Alternative" life styles are acceptable? Separation of Church and State? this phrase is not in the Constitution. Latin isn't dead!

[khyropia]

@1seticat seperation of church and state, Jesus said give to ceaser what is ceaser's and give to god what is god's, and many some early saints (desert fathers) didn't like christianity becoming legal because then rulers would use it as a political tool, not what is was meant to to be, the bride of christ.

[1seticat]

@khyropia Not sure how your comment relates to mine?? Separation of Church and State is NO WHERE in the Constitution. the establishment clause so that there would be no State religion. Liberals on the Supreme Court figure putting up a Christmas tree or a Menorah establishes a religion. I don't agree. My earlier point is that the deconstructionists of today who destroy what words mean, can't destroy what Latin words mean. That's what i call a live language!!!!

[daedulus1]

A pure voice, song, and thought in the church a diffrent time

[SanLUZARDO]

Return Latin to our Masses..It should never been taken away as stated in SC from the Second Vatican Council....Latin is to be retained..It is sorely missed by the silent majority.

[halberdierv2]

only problem... who will understand if it is brought back in the manner of before, where the entire mass was said in latin? i wouldnt, as well as the majority in my generation.

[SanLUZARDO]

Hi, I am of the Vat II generation but remember the "indult" from an Aunt. I understand little Latin but use the MIssal, and having gone to vernacular Mass for 20 years I do know what they are saying now. The Ordinary is the same every week so after a few months you get used to it. As for the readings, yes they are hard to follow and I would be up for that part in the vernacular. Just keep the ordinary in Latin. Best of both I guess. Thanks for your comment..BTW 40 here.

[Eskadron22]

So you think it is impossible for anyone to learn or even understand a second language, even if you have the missal with exact translation in front of you? As you can see, the Novus Ordo mass had made you lazy and somewhat backward.

[halberdierv2]

excuse me? it hasnt made me backwad, its the only form I know, and if know and understand it in english, why would I want to change? you may have no problem learning another language, but many people dont have the time or patience to sit down and learn it.

quit being dense.

[amesbancal]

right!!!

[gpattt]

@SanLUZARDO,

36. 1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.

54. Nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them.

101. 1. In accordance with the centuries-old tradition of the Latin rite, the Latin language is to be retained by clerics in the divine office.

I totally agree with you.

Bishops?

[FlamingRose11]

@SanLUZARDO I love latin and the spirituality it adds to the mass, but vatican II i think truly helped the community focus on the mass, and feel more as part ofa community. though this chant is divine.

[Baritone45]

@SanLUZARDO So you'd prefer something that sounds mysterious and beautiful to something that people can understand?

Perhaps you worship magic, and don't want to be bothered by Jesus Christ's actual message.

[shawn30446]

@Baritone45

i'm sure he meant for latin to be used in the our father and hail mary, but for the bulk of the sermon to be spoke in the vernacular.

and i find the "you worship magic" comment to be offensive and wrong, catholic services have always been held to a level of decorum with ritual and liturgy. if you want "something to understand", go to a protestant service.

[Baritone45]

@shawn30446 umm, Jesus spoke the Lord's Prayer in Aramaic, not LATIN!!!

Just because your church defines something a given way, in no way implies it is what Jesus Christ said or did or meant. Just because your church presumes to preempt all others does not make it better than others, just intolerant.

And thank you, I do go to a Protestant Church to actually learn about and follow Jesus, not a bunch of symbols and incantations in languages which neither Jesus nor I speak.

[ortebalm09]

@SanLUZARDO I think I agree, in that way we can be united again, and the world can be one. Peacful in the name of God.

[Goldfurt88]

@SanLUZARDO Latin is the language of the holy roman church. The pope should had never taken this divine language away from the holy mass. #you are so right.

[hawchubby39]

@SanLUZARDO Very well said. it should have never been removed from the church.

[notreveh]

@SanLUZARDO Here in Brazil, at least in my city, a very catholic one, the masses still uses Latin. It is a wonderful thing to watch.

[ZyklonCable]

@SanLUZARDO

I am from austria, a small country in mid-europe, south of germany, and north of italy. In our schools latin is a very important subject you have to take, and where you have to write exams, since we are a very catholic and traditional country. So latin isn't a dead language at all! It will never die!

[TheRacistsMustDie]

@SanLUZARDO Oh come on, you know what the silent majority misses: the social face of the Church. The Church is out of touch with society, it has to come out into the neighborhood helping everyone Catholic or non-Catholic. Don't give me that "we need Latin again" nonsense before we've reached that.

[davidpetercantus]

Amen, Alleluia Amen!

Pax Christi †

[halberdierv2]

Gloria en excelsis Deo!

[inri120]

et in terra pax hominibus

[ChristainPatriot01]

Bone volentatis

[morrink]

Roma Victoria!

Gloria Deo!

[TransformalinVitae]

AHAHaha mi spiegate perchè il mio commento ha 2 valutazioni negative? :D Che ho detto di male/scabroso/inaccettabile? xD

[2012vimana2]

hihihi adesso ne ha 3 di negativi, se vuoi clicco sul pollice in su però io di solito vado fiero delle bocciature ai miei commenti!

Questo canto è stupendooooooooooooooooooooo!

[TransformalinVitae]

Figurati,al massimo aggiungi un altro pollice in giù,tanto uno in più o in meno xD

[TransformalinVitae]

Ma che cosa vuoi? Abbiamo tutti lo stesso animo? Mai sentito parlare di gusti? A te ispira pesantezza,benissimo,ma fammi il favore,accetta gusti diversi dai tuoi.

[inquisitorenero]

si dovrebbe dire sempre così il "Pater".

[TransformalinVitae]

Molto meditativo, utile per determinate riflessioni.

[DrPunjabi]

great and solemn, gregorian chant is celestial

and gracified by the holy spirit.