As much as I often disagree with Grayson, the man is absolutely right here. Capitalism is supposed to reward success and punish the failures and I'm glad to see him working with someone who is essentially his political opposite to get this necessary amendment passed.
these banks and coporations dont give a fuck about america. they just care about themselves. they say you have to support the corporations because they provide jobs but they have moved all the jobs to other countries. and then they wave their flags and say they love america. reign in the banks and start manufacuring here again and you will see a recovery. otherwise were done. and not starting wars in oil rich areas would save a few billion too.
Rep. Alan Grayson is the man willing to put his life on the line for Americans. I think there are only 3 Congress persons that has this courage, the rest are just worthless memes. Americans that understands the FED is looting Americans and is Americas down fall have your back Mr. Grayson, but beware of this most corrupt crime organization called the Federal Reserve. They have a shady past and I dont trust them. Every time you grill Ben his voice cracks and he sounds like he going to cry
The distance from when the dollar's value against gold to where the dollar's value against oil to the value against air.
The dollar will definitely drop. If the dollar's value is against oil then the Middle East should have more wealth than America
So for all the Democrats and Reps who are hellbent on their ideologic principals. The reward for their diligence will be the destruction of the country they now serve . But these corrupt devils will see and allow the Feds continue to lie.
When the world finds out whats going on behind the Fed's curtains And the world see that America is only printing money and this money has no real value. Then the dollar will find his rightful place. At the bottom of the barrel. America will fail and all the racist bigots will rot in hell
RON PAUL! Everyone is jumping on the audit the fed bandwagon! This is an issue everyone has to get behind: Democrats & Republicans! The Federal has been stealing our money for 96 years in secret. Taking our tax dollars, lending it out to banks at 0% so they can then lend it back to us (our own $) at 25%. Foreign banks & huge investment banks (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Chase) get rich off of our hard work!!! Thank you senators: Paul, Grayson, Spitzer!
LOL that Dr. PAUL is the 'co-sponsor'? Dr. Paul authored that bill- if anything Grayson is a co-sponsor'.
Clever- using the word 'bailouts' from boosh admin omitting the word 'stimulus', from the owebama admin. Just as interesting... the failure of including 'talking points' such as, this bill is in line with the to-date ABSENT transparency promised by owebama.
Don't you just love how Grayson gets all the credit when Ron has been fighting this for 30yrs?? Now I'm glad Grayson came on board,but lets keep the facts straight,& give credit where credit is due.Ron WROTE HR 1207,& HIS supporters is what made this happen. Grayson just helped it along & got some Democrats to pay attention to something they never cared about before. Like I said below,the only other Demo I've ever heard bad mouth the Fed besides Grayson,was Kucinich.Break the 2 party paradigm.
breaking the 2 party is NOT going to happen - ask Nader - Have you ANY Idea how many elections Nader fucked up by running??? The only ones who will break are libs and that is the best thing that could happen for co0nxervatives. We need unification not splits.
Yep. And I think I'll take this opportunity to clarify-
HR 1207 IS THE FIRST AND ONLY (to date) EFFORT AT TRANSPARENCY in the massive owebama FAIL / LIE. And I'll gladly retract this comment if things improve but Senate RAMMING their 2099 page health fiasco through on a Saturday night is hardly a good start.
It's frustrating, I know. But if the goal is reached, who cares who carried the ball? And in the world of politics and the media, it's all about the power and popularity. Grayson has the popularity of the media. Ron has the power of his life long message that has taken root not only in the US but around the world.
You tell me I am wrong, that i should go read wikipedia, wiki agrees with me.. history agrees with me..
and you still claim its all false..
really dude?
really?
Its a PRIVATE ENTITY THAT PRINTS MONEY OUT OF NOTHING AND LOANS IT OUT WITH INTEREST TO THE USA GOVT & others FOR THE BENEFIT OF ITS OWNERS/SHAREHOLDERS..
We can never pay off the interest & keep taking more "loans" furthering our debt bondage.The system is ancient babylonian-
"Controversy about the Federal Reserve Act and the establishment of the Federal Reserve System have existed since prior to its passage, and include whether Congress has the Constitutional power to delegate its power to coin money or issue paper money, whether the Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel established to protect large banks, or whether the Federal Reserves' actions increase the frequency and severity of boom-bust economic cycles such as the Great Depression of the 1930s."
Representative Alan Grayson shows what can happen when an honest, intelligent person gets elected to Congress. We need to elect 400 more Alan Graysons in 2010.
in 2007 we collected 927 billion in taxes, every bit goes to pay the interest( which mounts by the minute) so then new budgets for the new year require more new loans with interest.. but you are still paying on the old debt and interest-
It is a spider web.
You can never catch up with the interest, therefore you can never pay back the loans, so you are in constant debt slavery.
Are we going to have to go all Bolshevik? Do we need to start building Guillotines? Are pitch forks and torches called for? Until we, and the rest of the world throw the money changers from our collective temples, we will just reel from crisis to crisis, forever watching our collective wealth diminish as the Banks and bankers grow in power that is becoming akin to the power of ancient Pharaohs.
Folks, we are smarter than this and we damn well deserve better. DEMAND IT!
Is it just me or was anybody else somewhat shocked to see Eliot Spitzer just appear all of a sudden to talk about monetary policy on the network news. Not that I have any problem whatsoever of his sexual indiscretions (so long as he isn't a hypocrite family values conservative who is also screwing a whore), but still. I guess the stigma has warn off and he is back in the game. Well hey, good for him.
LOL! We're ALL a lil high strung these days. I'm glad Grayson came on board. It gave a Democratic voice to the bill. This just might bring the left and right together,even if it's just for this cause. But it's a very important cause,and we are all effected by what the Fed has done to bring us to this point. Maybe people can put there own BS aside,break free of the left/right BS and realize we are ALL on this sinking ship together,no matter what party you represent.
Why the thumbs down?? Can't people take a damn joke? Or are THEY not for ending the fed?? I'm glad Grayson got involved,the more the merrier. But don't deny Ron Paul the props he deserves,he created the bill,and if it wasn't for all his supporters,it wouldn't have gotten this far. Until Grayson got involved,the only other Demo I ever heard attack the fed was Kucinich. So don't hate.
The problem isn't auditing the Fed; the problem is that most Congressmen lack a fundamental understanding of the mechanisms with which they are eager to tinker.
Dylan Ratigan is an idiot if he thinks we don't know why politician's don'tt fix the system. They haven't the slightest clue how, and even if they did, the banks bribe them with campaign contributions
So how much did the owners of the fed make in 2007?
How much did the fed give back to the US govt in 2007?
or you choose the year... stop ducking the question, that is what you said, so back it up-
I know the naive german cant accept jekyll island as truth or passing the fed act of 1913 while most of the congress had already gone home for the holidays, or even woodrow "I have unwittingly ruined my country" wilson the lame brain who signed it.
I already said that I'm not going to read balance sheets for you, you can do that yourself.
and you don't have to constantly repeat stuff I never disputed. I know of its founding and of austrian economics.
and I know that that stuff about a private company lending to the government at interest doesn't serve the cause of ending the fed, because it can be easily disputet.
because it's false.
what's germany got to do with it? the european central bank is hardly better. same failed concept.
WIKI " It is generally believed that the outline to the Plan had been formulated in a secret meeting on Jekyl Island in November of 1910 in which Aldrich and other well connected financiers attended.[3]"
Since the Aldrich Plan essentially gave full control of this system to private bankers, there was strong opposition to it from rural and western states because of fears that it would become a tool of certain rich and powerful financiers in New York City, referred to as the "Money Trust.
It would solve a lot of problems long term, but.. It´ll get fierce resistance. The big industries would probably throw everything in including the kitchen sink before something like that passed.
Well, the ace in the hole is the Roberts Court--5 reactionary fucks who can (and have) fuck(ed) up the country in a heartbeat.
But here is the case (short version) for why FENA is critical, why everything else hinges on this kind of reform:
/watch?v=6EuLzpeBQ10
I for one buy Lessig's argument. Like an addict, the addiction may not be the most immediately critical issue--driving home, or keeping yr job might be that--but it'll always be the key obstacle to tackling every other.
This is why they dont want to be Audited: The Primary Owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Are: 1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin 2. Lazard Brothers of Paris 3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy 4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York 5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany 6. Lehman Brothers of New York 7. Goldman, Sachs of New York 8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York We are governed by Europe secretly.
Odd that I should feel relieved to FINALLY feel like I have congressional representatives who are by of and for the people rather than by, of and for The Corporation. Grayson, Weiner, Feingould.. How jaded is it to feel like these guys are hero's just for doing their jobs?
Who would allow excavation knowing twenty bodies are buried in the backyard. The Fed will do anything to stop this. Anyone thought private health insurers were putting up a fight you aint seen nothing yet. Maybe convenient accidents. I would not get on a plane with Grayson.
In order to move this forward in a Dominated Dem Congress, it had to be presented by a Dem, Ron is a supporter but we all know, millions of us around the world, know it's Ron's bill. Politics is a nasty game and if you want to win, you have to play the game..Ron knows this and puts aside vain glory for the sake of the country.
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XXXREDROOMXXX 1 year ago
kick obama out of office we need Grayson for a change!!
log140 1 year ago
As much as I often disagree with Grayson, the man is absolutely right here. Capitalism is supposed to reward success and punish the failures and I'm glad to see him working with someone who is essentially his political opposite to get this necessary amendment passed.
hippiehunter 1 year ago
these banks and coporations dont give a fuck about america. they just care about themselves. they say you have to support the corporations because they provide jobs but they have moved all the jobs to other countries. and then they wave their flags and say they love america. reign in the banks and start manufacuring here again and you will see a recovery. otherwise were done. and not starting wars in oil rich areas would save a few billion too.
zrac09 2 years ago
Paul/Grayson 2012 Ticket, wooooot! i love it
pberrios0223 2 years ago
I'm glad Alan Grayson is on the job. Kick some butt, big Al.
BigRedMcCool 2 years ago 3
Rep. Alan Grayson is the man willing to put his life on the line for Americans. I think there are only 3 Congress persons that has this courage, the rest are just worthless memes. Americans that understands the FED is looting Americans and is Americas down fall have your back Mr. Grayson, but beware of this most corrupt crime organization called the Federal Reserve. They have a shady past and I dont trust them. Every time you grill Ben his voice cracks and he sounds like he going to cry
stophypocrisy 2 years ago 2
Great channel
terry !!
gherkamum 2 years ago 2
Paul, Grayson, Kucinich, Ventura- any of those 4 in any combo I'd vote for in 2012...
tooldruid 2 years ago 2
me too.
lisabob22 2 years ago
The distance from when the dollar's value against gold to where the dollar's value against oil to the value against air.
The dollar will definitely drop. If the dollar's value is against oil then the Middle East should have more wealth than America
So for all the Democrats and Reps who are hellbent on their ideologic principals. The reward for their diligence will be the destruction of the country they now serve . But these corrupt devils will see and allow the Feds continue to lie.
Amerikaten 2 years ago
When the world finds out whats going on behind the Fed's curtains And the world see that America is only printing money and this money has no real value. Then the dollar will find his rightful place. At the bottom of the barrel. America will fail and all the racist bigots will rot in hell
Amerikaten 2 years ago 3
The Fed has destroyed this country. All of our jobs are gone while wall street gamble for thr deal.
studape 2 years ago 7
It is sad that we were so manipulated and lied to.
frio109 2 years ago 2
Ron Paul/Grayson 2012! Real change: a Republican/Democrat who care about the REAL issues!
gigisandiego96 2 years ago 3
RON PAUL! Everyone is jumping on the audit the fed bandwagon! This is an issue everyone has to get behind: Democrats & Republicans! The Federal has been stealing our money for 96 years in secret. Taking our tax dollars, lending it out to banks at 0% so they can then lend it back to us (our own $) at 25%. Foreign banks & huge investment banks (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Chase) get rich off of our hard work!!! Thank you senators: Paul, Grayson, Spitzer!
gigisandiego96 2 years ago 4
progressives and libertarians unite! (ron paul, alan grayson)
.................. at least until some libertarians decide to be 'independents' or a.k.a the people who fall for republican and democrat lies.......
i know i know grayson and paul are dem and rep......
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SeexyyAmbeer 2 years ago
LOL that Dr. PAUL is the 'co-sponsor'? Dr. Paul authored that bill- if anything Grayson is a co-sponsor'.
Clever- using the word 'bailouts' from boosh admin omitting the word 'stimulus', from the owebama admin. Just as interesting... the failure of including 'talking points' such as, this bill is in line with the to-date ABSENT transparency promised by owebama.
So subtle, but it's there LOUDLY!
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Don't you just love how Grayson gets all the credit when Ron has been fighting this for 30yrs?? Now I'm glad Grayson came on board,but lets keep the facts straight,& give credit where credit is due.Ron WROTE HR 1207,& HIS supporters is what made this happen. Grayson just helped it along & got some Democrats to pay attention to something they never cared about before. Like I said below,the only other Demo I've ever heard bad mouth the Fed besides Grayson,was Kucinich.Break the 2 party paradigm.
javalily 2 years ago
breaking the 2 party is NOT going to happen - ask Nader - Have you ANY Idea how many elections Nader fucked up by running??? The only ones who will break are libs and that is the best thing that could happen for co0nxervatives. We need unification not splits.
ccm800 2 years ago
Lol.Good luck with that.
javalily 2 years ago
Yep. And I think I'll take this opportunity to clarify-
HR 1207 IS THE FIRST AND ONLY (to date) EFFORT AT TRANSPARENCY in the massive owebama FAIL / LIE. And I'll gladly retract this comment if things improve but Senate RAMMING their 2099 page health fiasco through on a Saturday night is hardly a good start.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago 2
It's frustrating, I know. But if the goal is reached, who cares who carried the ball? And in the world of politics and the media, it's all about the power and popularity. Grayson has the popularity of the media. Ron has the power of his life long message that has taken root not only in the US but around the world.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
Thanks Grayson. I'm an RP Republican, and I absolutely laud you on your understanding and vehement backing of HR 1207.
Without you, the amendment passed may well have been the Watt amendment.
Amy31415 2 years ago 5
You tell me I am wrong, that i should go read wikipedia, wiki agrees with me.. history agrees with me..
and you still claim its all false..
really dude?
really?
Its a PRIVATE ENTITY THAT PRINTS MONEY OUT OF NOTHING AND LOANS IT OUT WITH INTEREST TO THE USA GOVT & others FOR THE BENEFIT OF ITS OWNERS/SHAREHOLDERS..
We can never pay off the interest & keep taking more "loans" furthering our debt bondage.The system is ancient babylonian-
It isnt new.
So what are you crying about?
giantshadows 2 years ago 2
"Controversy about the Federal Reserve Act and the establishment of the Federal Reserve System have existed since prior to its passage, and include whether Congress has the Constitutional power to delegate its power to coin money or issue paper money, whether the Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel established to protect large banks, or whether the Federal Reserves' actions increase the frequency and severity of boom-bust economic cycles such as the Great Depression of the 1930s."
giantshadows 2 years ago
Grayson = Awesome as usual!
Smartassawhip 2 years ago 11
I would much rather the Fed to be abolished, and a return of Congress to issue, and regulate our currency, than to simply audit them.
joe80dman 2 years ago 3
Grayson Paul 2012!
theendofconfusion 2 years ago
i say grayson franken 2020
pokeyugi13 2 years ago
we need to weed out the corrupt politicians. Rep. Alan Grayson is a breath of fresh air.
thank you Rep. Alan Grayson
defect530 2 years ago 11
governments have been privatizing gain since the creation of govmints, time to fuk them up!
solojam 2 years ago
Representative Alan Grayson shows what can happen when an honest, intelligent person gets elected to Congress. We need to elect 400 more Alan Graysons in 2010.
JayPhilosopher 2 years ago 6
transperency and accountability and sane regulations is what the world's fiscal system needs imo.
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
If they always do what they always did. You'll always get what you always got.
Sic 'em, Toto!
BigMrFirebird 2 years ago
Lets pour water on the wicked witch (the reserve) and let it melt away.....
1958louief 2 years ago 3
I certainly hope you succeed Mr Grayson!! Take down the institution that owns/owened everyone in the US for a century.
DJBerber 2 years ago 3
Why do you think there are spider webs all over the 1$ bill?
giantshadows 2 years ago
in 2007 we collected 927 billion in taxes, every bit goes to pay the interest( which mounts by the minute) so then new budgets for the new year require more new loans with interest.. but you are still paying on the old debt and interest-
It is a spider web.
You can never catch up with the interest, therefore you can never pay back the loans, so you are in constant debt slavery.
It is as old as babylon.
It is the same system.
With the same end.
Seems a german would know that-
giantshadows 2 years ago
FINALLY some anti-Fed press coverage! Let the dismantling begin.
harvey101107 2 years ago 3
Are we going to have to go all Bolshevik? Do we need to start building Guillotines? Are pitch forks and torches called for? Until we, and the rest of the world throw the money changers from our collective temples, we will just reel from crisis to crisis, forever watching our collective wealth diminish as the Banks and bankers grow in power that is becoming akin to the power of ancient Pharaohs.
Folks, we are smarter than this and we damn well deserve better. DEMAND IT!
Plutonwolf 2 years ago 3
Mr. Grayson I hope you finish what you have started! Go on!
silvercoin1111 2 years ago 3
Ron Paul supporter here, I like Grayson because he doesn´t outsource his thinking, keep it like that Alan.
LawrenciumTradera 2 years ago 4
Grayson-Paul 2012
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danbowski40 2 years ago
Is it just me or was anybody else somewhat shocked to see Eliot Spitzer just appear all of a sudden to talk about monetary policy on the network news. Not that I have any problem whatsoever of his sexual indiscretions (so long as he isn't a hypocrite family values conservative who is also screwing a whore), but still. I guess the stigma has warn off and he is back in the game. Well hey, good for him.
barada01 2 years ago
i think he felt the backlash of the system.. soo why would he want to help defend it ?
Devinswill 2 years ago
I think he's been on that show before, or maybe it was some other shows. he's also writing for newspapers.
I can see why you're surprised when you saw him back for the first time, but it wasn't the first time by far.
myrelative 2 years ago
Ok, cheers. I live abroad so I miss these things some times.
barada01 2 years ago
Ron Paul rocks,Grayson is just riding his coat tails ;) END THE FED RALLY Nov. 22nd !! Actions speak louder than words!!
javalily 2 years ago
Let us just get the job done.
We can leave my daddy can beat your daddy in kindergarten where it belongs..
cosmosgato 2 years ago
I was joking,hence the winking smiley face.
javalily 2 years ago
I'm sorry.
Missed it.
I gotta calm down.
cosmosgato 2 years ago
LOL! We're ALL a lil high strung these days. I'm glad Grayson came on board. It gave a Democratic voice to the bill. This just might bring the left and right together,even if it's just for this cause. But it's a very important cause,and we are all effected by what the Fed has done to bring us to this point. Maybe people can put there own BS aside,break free of the left/right BS and realize we are ALL on this sinking ship together,no matter what party you represent.
javalily 2 years ago
Why the thumbs down?? Can't people take a damn joke? Or are THEY not for ending the fed?? I'm glad Grayson got involved,the more the merrier. But don't deny Ron Paul the props he deserves,he created the bill,and if it wasn't for all his supporters,it wouldn't have gotten this far. Until Grayson got involved,the only other Demo I ever heard attack the fed was Kucinich. So don't hate.
javalily 2 years ago
The problem isn't auditing the Fed; the problem is that most Congressmen lack a fundamental understanding of the mechanisms with which they are eager to tinker.
Dylan Ratigan is an idiot if he thinks we don't know why politician's don'tt fix the system. They haven't the slightest clue how, and even if they did, the banks bribe them with campaign contributions
manonthemount 2 years ago
YES! Mr Grayson rocks!
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
and now they take action after the damage is done????
smasila 2 years ago
there is one congressman that wanted to take action for a few decades now...
myrelative 2 years ago 2
Yea,but he's just 'crazy' right....;)
javalily 2 years ago
That made me laugh because the way I see it, he's crazy as a fox..If Republicans were all like Ron, I would be a republican.
Boomer1949 2 years ago 3
True, some Reps are DemonRats in Rep suits.....like wolfs in sheeps clothing.
frio109 2 years ago
Me 2;)
javalily 2 years ago
This guy is AWESOME!!!
jfcrow1 2 years ago 3
WOOOT! GRAYSON ROCKS!! Fuck the Fed!
AllianceCrusha 2 years ago 4
What I love about Grayson is that he seems like he doesn't care if he gets reelected.
Which is friggin awesome.
Politically, he's got nothing to lose.
We need to see more politicians willing to forgo career politics, and champion single, or few issues.
WeedGreenPowerRanger 2 years ago 5
After the Fed, they should audit the tungsten bars in Fort Knox.
jimladx 2 years ago 2
Yeah, wasnt it 1933 Roosevelt they made owning private gold by USA citizens illegal?
Up to 10 yrs in prison?
That gold is long gone to Europe..
The only way to kick start the economy is to pay off the bastards who control the $ supply.
One day no $ no loans, next day, pleanty of $..
How rich would the USA be if the govt(the people) made the interest (usuary) off the loans of currency to banks, instead of a private company?
No need for irs, the fed or natl debt.
giantshadows 2 years ago
I'm with you regarding criticizing the Fed, but that Fed=private company stuff is a distraction.
yes, the fed is partly private, but taxed at 100% above a certain level. the "profits" do go to the government. if there are any.
myrelative 2 years ago
absolutly does not..
The govt does not get the profit.
Look at your owners of the fed, it is a private entity, it is independent of any govt.
Your idea is that we owe the natl debt to ourselves? so do you always have to borrow $ from yourself with interest?
Do you pay yourself back with interest?
Why do you think we have NOT been able to completely audit the fed since 1913?
Why do you think it is an issue now?
We borrow $ created out of thin air, with interest from a private bank- piracy
giantshadows 2 years ago 3
you're wrong, look it up.
the "owners" of the fed get a certain, fixed, dividend per year, the rest is transferred to the treasury.
and the fed is not "independent of any government". it's board is appointed BY the government.
its DECISIONS are supposed to be independent, but they aren't, as you can see by the joint press conferences of bernanke and geithner.
there's a lot of things wrong with the Fed, but this interest-to-a-private-company is BS.
myrelative 2 years ago
they are private, we do pay them interest to print up dollars and loan them to us..
with interest..
it isnt rocket science..
giantshadows 2 years ago 3
yeah, if it was true. there's enough blame to put on the Fed already, you don't have to make stuff up.
myrelative 2 years ago
look, even greenspan admitted, we dont need the fed. It is no more than a central bank run by intl bankers.
The prez appoints a fed chairman from a short list given to him by the fed.
geithener was the Ny fed chairman under bush, still sound on the level?
You should read up on how the fed came to be, it is not federal.
It is criminal.
Robbing and raping American Citizens and the world since 1913...
Who was paul Warburg and who's interests did he represent at jekyll island?
giantshadows 2 years ago 5
How much did the owners get in fixed dividends in 2008?
How much did the fed give back to the treasury in 2008?
You get those answers to complete your theory.
The fed was no more than an elitist take over of the money supply in 1913.
Wth sound currency bakced up by percious metals, there is no need for a fiat currency or a fed.
They are only there to print $ out of thin air and loan it out with interest.
They expand and contract the supply at will.
The can bring depression or boom.
giantshadows 2 years ago 3
am I supposed to read balance sheets for you now, because you get all of your information from movies on youtube?
look it up.
myrelative 2 years ago
It Has nothing to do with movies on you tube.
Your theory requires you to tell us all how much the owners of the fed made in any single year you choose.. you cant
or how much they gave back the US govt in any given year.. they didnt..
Everything i have said i can back up-
You cant..
and you havnt.
and you cant.
because the fed is not a part of the US govt.
Nor is it accountable for its actions at present, which is why you are here watching this video..
didnt you watch it?
giantshadows 2 years ago
what I said isn't contradicted by this video.
if you want proof, go read the federal reserve act, go read wikipedia, the fed's website or any other source except maybe alex jones.
no theory, fact.
myrelative 2 years ago
So how much did the owners of the fed make in 2007?
How much did the fed give back to the US govt in 2007?
or you choose the year... stop ducking the question, that is what you said, so back it up-
I know the naive german cant accept jekyll island as truth or passing the fed act of 1913 while most of the congress had already gone home for the holidays, or even woodrow "I have unwittingly ruined my country" wilson the lame brain who signed it.
Nor can you believe that they create boom & bust.
giantshadows 2 years ago
I already said that I'm not going to read balance sheets for you, you can do that yourself.
and you don't have to constantly repeat stuff I never disputed. I know of its founding and of austrian economics.
and I know that that stuff about a private company lending to the government at interest doesn't serve the cause of ending the fed, because it can be easily disputet.
because it's false.
what's germany got to do with it? the european central bank is hardly better. same failed concept.
myrelative 2 years ago
WIKI " It is generally believed that the outline to the Plan had been formulated in a secret meeting on Jekyl Island in November of 1910 in which Aldrich and other well connected financiers attended.[3]"
Since the Aldrich Plan essentially gave full control of this system to private bankers, there was strong opposition to it from rural and western states because of fears that it would become a tool of certain rich and powerful financiers in New York City, referred to as the "Money Trust.
giantshadows 2 years ago
yes, we "owe" (part of) our national debt to ourselves. that's the problem. it's called monetization.
myrelative 2 years ago
Kick ass, Grayson.
How about a bipartisan push now to get the "Fair Elections Now Act" moving?
Make small-donor money bombs and public matching funds the ONLY money!
terpis 2 years ago 7
It would solve a lot of problems long term, but.. It´ll get fierce resistance. The big industries would probably throw everything in including the kitchen sink before something like that passed.
Thealazor 2 years ago
Well, the ace in the hole is the Roberts Court--5 reactionary fucks who can (and have) fuck(ed) up the country in a heartbeat.
But here is the case (short version) for why FENA is critical, why everything else hinges on this kind of reform:
/watch?v=6EuLzpeBQ10
I for one buy Lessig's argument. Like an addict, the addiction may not be the most immediately critical issue--driving home, or keeping yr job might be that--but it'll always be the key obstacle to tackling every other.
terpis 2 years ago
nobodysfool67 2 years ago 2
No, Europe and the US are governed by Israel secretly.
jimladx 2 years ago
you may be on to something jim, how many non jewish heads of the fed have there ever been?..
giantshadows 2 years ago
Ask France for advice on the guillotine.
The desire to use one may arise with a proper audit.
cosmosgato 2 years ago 3
Odd that I should feel relieved to FINALLY feel like I have congressional representatives who are by of and for the people rather than by, of and for The Corporation. Grayson, Weiner, Feingould.. How jaded is it to feel like these guys are hero's just for doing their jobs?
callouschristian 2 years ago 2
They will start WW3 before they let you examine what they have been doing at the fed...
giantshadows 2 years ago 3
Agreed.
Who would allow excavation knowing twenty bodies are buried in the backyard. The Fed will do anything to stop this. Anyone thought private health insurers were putting up a fight you aint seen nothing yet. Maybe convenient accidents. I would not get on a plane with Grayson.
cosmosgato 2 years ago 2
Keep doing a good job Mr Grayson.. We really need alot more Graysons in the house and the senate.
PhantasyGod 2 years ago 4
We've had one for over 30 yrs,and he wrote HR 1207.,too bad he doesn't get the credit he deserves.
javalily 2 years ago
In order to move this forward in a Dominated Dem Congress, it had to be presented by a Dem, Ron is a supporter but we all know, millions of us around the world, know it's Ron's bill. Politics is a nasty game and if you want to win, you have to play the game..Ron knows this and puts aside vain glory for the sake of the country.
Boomer1949 2 years ago
Go get em, END THE FED!!!
jrccdhetlr1 2 years ago 4
The Trust Buster lives!
styrofoamheart 2 years ago