Poverty Rate 13.2%/14.3%, Number of Poor 39.3 Million/41.6 Million, Unemployment 5.4%/8.6%, Unemployment ( Blacks) 6.5%/16.7%, Unemployment (Hispanics) 4.9%/13.1%, Average weeks unemployed 19.9/40.3,Median Income $52,029/ $49,445,
Health Insurance Premiums (family) $12,680/ $15,073, Number of jobs 142,201,000/139,627,000, Inflation rate 0.03%/3.77%, Poverty Rate 13.2%/14.3%, Average price of Gas $1.82/$3.64,National Deficit $248 billion/$1,299 billion
@jaiba41 Are those real? I believe you but I want to see it for my own eyes. I can't stand hearding everyday that Obama has created jobs.........NO Obama has lost jobs........No Obama created blah blah blah blah. I just would like a nice real clear cut graph for a change. Or does the government control that too?
@myboycoltmccoy The numbers are real. They were updated November 2011. Most every metric is worse today than back then. How about this one? The Misery Index (which measures unemployment and inflation) was 7.49 before Obama, 11.99 Today. The latest news ? The price of gas is expected to reach $4.00/gallon by the summer.
@allgoo19 In the same place where I learned that Obama's personal wealth has increased by 1000% since he became president. In this particular case the IRS... It pays to be president of the 99%, doesn't it?
@tehatemachine, we are on the same page. Housing, healthcare, and education costs are the result of the failure of capitalism (sarcasm). EVERY time the government gets involved in an industry, it raises the prices and decreases the quality.
@benallen12 jessthehorse would disagree with his/her flagellant beliefs that government is somehow this magical efficient body that can heal anything it touches. Which is just not the case and never has been. Government didn't create America. Individuals and businesses have.
@benallen12 the only usefull purpose i can see government is in it's basic form, To uphold law, Provide courts and fair trials. Have a Military to protect it from foreign enemies. most of the laws though are run statewide.
The more I hear her talk, the more I'm starting to think she is the Ron Paul of the "left." Unfortunately she wants to use government to solve our problems, when it's too much government that is the source.
And @jessthehorse, free markets and capitalism DID NOT create the stock market bubble, nor the housing bubble. They were both the result of very clear and direct intervention in the market.
@benallen12 governments steps for taking over medical field
Step 1. government reaches it's grasp towards medical field by heavily regulating it VIA FDA which in turn raises costs
Step 2. Blame it as a failure of the free market that costs have hiked
step 3. Take complete control over medical VIA government insurance policy that heavily reduces medical advancement and requires patients to wait in a long ass line for (weeks) basic forms of treatment
"limited government"??? "small government"?? These are empty talking points. The REALITY is when we had MORE government oversight it prevented this melt down for 3/4s of a century! Try reading up on The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 and The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 ensured the deregulation of financial products such as "credit default swaps" and other mind boggling "derivatives" that were previously illegal.
@jessthehorse Try reading up what caused the great depression.
""limited government"??? "small government"?? These are empty talking points."
Discarding history is complete stupidity, Any form that has departed became a dictatorship. But people like you make the same mistakes over and over and over by aiming at the wrong direction.
With limited government companies have to compete inoder to survive. No bailouts, No subsidies. Get it through your thick skull.
It's so easy to just blather about socialism. Dunces! We now have something close to a quadrillion dollars in derivatives in a world economy that has less than 1/10th that amount in cash. But the estimates are that some $50 trillion remain to be satisfied out of what was only a $50 trillion currency supply when this started. Banks will continue to drain our economies until they are stopped. B of A alone is sitting on more worthless paper than all the currency in the entire world today!
@jessthehorse "Banks will continue to drain our economies until they are stopped. " the Central banking idea and system was created by the government idiot.
@tehatemachine Actually YOU are the idiot. I am not talking about "the central bank". I am speaking about the half a dozen big private banks, B of A, Wells, Chase, Citi etc who seemed to play quite nicely until the laws which constrained them were removed. Can you say "LAWS"?
@jessthehorse "I am speaking about the half a dozen big private banks" Which many are UNDER the rules of the federal reserve. God damn you sound like an idiot. Everyone knows you're wrong except you and your sleezy liberal fanatic friends who have never stepped a foot outside into the real world. Government is NOT your family, They will not take care of you. YOU have to take care of yourself dipshit.
@tehatemachine -"government will not take care of you" is the talking point of a peon who has been brainwashed by right wingers who are only marginally smarter than you but that is all they need in order to remove laws that you are too dumb to realize protect us they can steal your money. Government MAKES laws and capitalism requires the rule of law in order to work. For 3/4s of a century we were indemnified against precisely what we have now and you are still too dumb to know it.
@jessthehorse And since you've never actually listened to Milton, Then I cannot take you seriously, He's proven your shitfest of flawed beliefs wrong over and over and over. Limited government with a Monetary policy that limit's it's spending budget is the only way to go. Anyone who departed from what Milton and the constitution advised went BACKWARDS not forward in technological advancements. Government does not create wealth, and i'll say it over and over and over.
Milton Friedman? you mean the guy who died in 2006, and never got the chance to see the global economic meltdown caused by the policies? The "Milton" whose policies led to the dot-com bubble, Enron and the related accounting scandals, investment bank conflict-of-interests, the California electricity market crisis, the housing bubble, and the subprime-mortgage fiasco and government regulations are bad? Yea, I just have narrow cultural horizons I guess. Lucky 4 have geniuses like U
@jessthehorse "and never got the chance to see the global economic meltdown caused by the policies?" His policies had nothing to do with the Bubble bursting. It still surprises me how arrogant and stupid you really are. People are DEPARTING from what Milton believed THAT is why we had the artificial government created bubble. THAT is why our government has such a huge spending debt. And that is why inflation is on the rise once again.
@tehatemachine NO that is NOT "why our government has a large debt" and he did not cause the bubble to burst, they caused the bubble in the first place because it occurred ONLY after deregulation. "deregulation = the removal of laws or guidelines"
@jessthehorse You liberal ideologists have NO !@#$%^& idea how the world works. It's nice to assume and guess it based upon rhetorical myth.....only when you where in HIGHSCHOOL.
History again proves you and this idiot warren wrong, You and her spout propaganda which involves someone else deciding what's best for someone else. Adam smiths principle remains supreme. So pick up a book and read about economics.
@tehatemachine -Warrren is an American bankruptcy expert, policy advocate, Harvard Law School professor, and confidante to the president. You are a jack ass ranting on You Tube. Hmm, think I will go with her view!
@jessthehorse Warren has accomplished NOTHING compared to Milton. Zero, nada, I don't care how much of an accliamed scholar she thinks she is. Anyone can be a scholar, and anyone can attract Via false rhetoric. She knows NOTHING About economics and how this country was run and the type of shit the founding fathers had to deal with. That's why the system is turning to hell. More assholes wanting to increase government spending and control.
@jessthehorse Regulations = restrictions on economic activity and freedom for individuals to pursue their own objectives. Government cannot decide what's best for it's civilians. Hell the system cannot even decide what's best for it's self. That's why it has substantially increased during the past few decades with more worthless programs that do nothing but prevent the individual moving out of poverty. Again you guys have failed.
I came up dirt poor. We had nothing. I worked my way thru college and paid every dime of it. Today I make a boatload of money. Now you have people that have dropped out of HS, smoked dope, mae babies they could not support, go into debt........and they want people like me to put a roof over their heads, food on their table, gas in their tanks...........hell no. You don't have to worry about the Tea party, you need to wory about people like me.
@primusmeridian23 Oh for fuck's sake- Obama is not a "leftist." He's a center-right capitalist. Warren is a real liberal, but she's not a radical. Her statements and policy ideas reflect sound economic principles and a concern for more than just the wealthiest Americans.
And why do you say she's "emotionally unstable?" Is it because she's a woman?
@zyxek You're right. She's a hard headed liberal. If she actually owned a business she obviously wouldn't be speaking the way she does promoting "fairness" Which isn't fairness at all. Her flawed ideology will make society go BACKWARDS not forwards. The Free market is one of the most dynamic and prized possession man has achieved on this PLANET. No other device can take people out of poverty than it. And The only type of fairness we want is fairness of opportunity through freedom.
The Fed is a Jesuit creation. The Titanic disaster is related to it as 911 is related to the bogus war on terror and the catastrophic bank bailout and economic disaster. reg6(dot)com. All Jesuit orchestrated. Research it.
WHEN "WE", bail out EUROPE, "then this will mean that The Federal Reserve, is NOT, any more Federal, than Federal Express"?!? WILL the Sheeple, e-v-e-r wake up............?
"Unlike my opponents, I'm not running from my voting record. I'm not running from my public statements. I'm not running from my predictions. I'm running on them." - Ron Paul *** OurName4Freedom
Lol do these people actually think that TARP was a actually an investment? Just logic can be used here, if you were going to invest your money into a company, would you invest in a failing company? Dur, dur, dur, dur..... Elizabeth Warren says nothing extraordinary.
@SamuelMoralesJr Sec of Treas Paulson said it was an "investment". He described it as a "Par Transaction". So he was lying. Gethner was head of the New York Fed and he structured the bailout packages. The financial instutions got special treatment. And there is 78 Billion Dollars missing (not paid back). The money that AIG got, 13 Billion went out the back door to Goldman Sachs investors who were holding credit default swaps. In other words, "fraud" commited by Paulson and Geithner.
@jessthehorse IF, she was voted in as President, "she would also be shown the Zapruder film, just as Obama was". They BOTH, have good intentions. It's the ones pulling their strings, that damn us, the MOST.......
@jessthehorse that's funny because you are speaking socialist rhetoric without even realizing it. Why should I be a surgeon when i can be payed the same amount to collect garbage? Socialism much?
@tehatemachine -AINT no socialism to it and I'm not sure WHAT anyone who takes that position realizes. What I DO know is that Warren understands what went wrong with this economy. She understands that there is no such thing as robo-signing because robots didn't sign anything and that it was forgery and fraud straight up. Right wingers such as I presume you are from your rhetoric are clueless and have the ironic lack of awareness to talk of "free markets" where there are none.
@jessthehorse Everyone knows that artificially inflated housing bubble caused the crash when it burst. That isn't new news, It's always liked back to being the goverments fault in the end. It's funny how they interfere by promoting unrealistic mortgages, Then when things get bad it's "oops looks like the market failed on it's own" Same shit with healthcare. At one point it was far cheaper per person, Now since government has stepped in it has risen drastically.
@tehatemachine it's always LINKED to it being the governments fault i meant to say. the modern free market is one of the greatest system that has lead to such monumental achievements in improving many of the ordinary peoples lives. and diverse system there is. It's the only system that has taken people out of poverty and into nice houses so long as that person has the will to work and advance his/her career wherever the job is at.
@tehatemachine -Actually it was when government protections were eliminated with the repeal of Glass Steagall that private sector greed was allowed to become private sector crime. There was no "robo-signin" because robots did not sign anything. We already have words for what happened and they are "forgery" "fraud" "perjury" etc. The Wall St model is stealing billions and then settling repeatedly for pennies on the dollar and THAT my ignorant friend is what happened and continues.
@jessthehorse "Glass Steagall that private sector greed was allowed to become private sector crime." Greed? Really? Is there anyone in here who isn't greedy? Well i guess i'm not greedy but you sure are with wanting something. Why do people like you never listen to actual economists. You seem to be spun up by media and modern myth about free market capitalism which has NEVER been true.
Political interest is more noble than economic self interest?
@tehatemachine - by the way, and to address your idiotic statement more directly, no, "everybody does NOT know the housing bubble caused the crash when it burst" and this comment demonstrates your ignorance. The "bubble" was caused by banks selling and re-selling and getting paid multiple times for loans they did not make in the first place. "Securitization". That is why they fired appraisers who would not play ball and had to forge documents to demonstrate ownership to foreclose!
@jessthehorse and let me tell you how it really works. Government Does NOT create wealth, it does not create fairness either. Especially when aiming for fairness. Warren never read a damn page about what our founding fathers went up against. Government can only change something by taking from point A and dropping it on point B while also taking a bit from that on the way. Businesses. GENERATE wealth through exchange
the fathers knew this that's why they wanted it to be limited.
@jessthehorse not limited exchange. But LIMITED government. You can only go in two directions really. To where you increase government, you will have less freedom. IF you decrease it to more basic functions then you will have far more freedom while still being protected by the law.
@jessthehorse There are indeed free markets. If i wanted to exchange for something else i could certainly do so. However they aren't' as free as the used to be thanks to good old uncle sam.
@tehatemachine - nope - tax and trade policies have almost eliminated "Mom and Pops" and placed huge conglomerates in the easy chair. The market was far MORE free when there was MORE government control. Anti-trust law preventing monopolistic mergers and government oversight of previously illegal products like tax payer insured insurance contracts on risky investments by banks leveraged 30 to 1 prevented precisely what you see now. If a bookie did this the mob would kill him.
@jessthehorse "The market was far MORE free when there was MORE government control"
"Anti-trust law preventing monopolistic mergers" Two contradicting statements. Look at how most of those companies became so huge to begin with, Almost EVERY monopoly that has sprouted, became that way somehow by government interfering which keeps many competitors out.
@jessthehorse ATT became so bloated because of many hard coded regulations within the telecomunications industry that kept so many of those smaller competitors out.If you had far fewer regulations, There would be far more small businesses. But again people like you have never picked up a book on economics in your entire life. I sugest you start listening to Thomas Sowell,Milton friedman. and Walter Williams. Those people have studied the market and government far more than you have
BEFORE/AFTER OBAMA
Poverty Rate 13.2%/14.3%, Number of Poor 39.3 Million/41.6 Million, Unemployment 5.4%/8.6%, Unemployment ( Blacks) 6.5%/16.7%, Unemployment (Hispanics) 4.9%/13.1%, Average weeks unemployed 19.9/40.3,Median Income $52,029/ $49,445,
Health Insurance Premiums (family) $12,680/ $15,073, Number of jobs 142,201,000/139,627,000, Inflation rate 0.03%/3.77%, Poverty Rate 13.2%/14.3%, Average price of Gas $1.82/$3.64,National Deficit $248 billion/$1,299 billion
jaiba41 3 weeks ago
@jaiba41 Citation?
zyxek 3 weeks ago
@jaiba41 Are those real? I believe you but I want to see it for my own eyes. I can't stand hearding everyday that Obama has created jobs.........NO Obama has lost jobs........No Obama created blah blah blah blah. I just would like a nice real clear cut graph for a change. Or does the government control that too?
myboycoltmccoy 1 week ago
@myboycoltmccoy The numbers are real. They were updated November 2011. Most every metric is worse today than back then. How about this one? The Misery Index (which measures unemployment and inflation) was 7.49 before Obama, 11.99 Today. The latest news ? The price of gas is expected to reach $4.00/gallon by the summer.
jaiba41 1 week ago
@jaiba41 "BEFORE/AFTER OBAMA"
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Where can I find the source of this?
I'd like to find out "before/after W. Bush" too.
allgoo19 6 days ago
@allgoo19 In the same place where I learned that Obama's personal wealth has increased by 1000% since he became president. In this particular case the IRS... It pays to be president of the 99%, doesn't it?
jaiba41 5 days ago
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@jaiba41 "In the same place where I learned.."
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Do you always lie?
What are trying to accomplish by lying?
allgoo19 5 days ago
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@allgoo19 "In the same place where I learned that Obama's personal wealth .."
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No answer to my question.
Basically you made up the data, correct?
This was my original question,
"Where can I find the source of this?"
allgoo19 5 days ago
@tehatemachine, we are on the same page. Housing, healthcare, and education costs are the result of the failure of capitalism (sarcasm). EVERY time the government gets involved in an industry, it raises the prices and decreases the quality.
benallen12 3 weeks ago
@benallen12 jessthehorse would disagree with his/her flagellant beliefs that government is somehow this magical efficient body that can heal anything it touches. Which is just not the case and never has been. Government didn't create America. Individuals and businesses have.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@benallen12 the only usefull purpose i can see government is in it's basic form, To uphold law, Provide courts and fair trials. Have a Military to protect it from foreign enemies. most of the laws though are run statewide.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
The more I hear her talk, the more I'm starting to think she is the Ron Paul of the "left." Unfortunately she wants to use government to solve our problems, when it's too much government that is the source.
And @jessthehorse, free markets and capitalism DID NOT create the stock market bubble, nor the housing bubble. They were both the result of very clear and direct intervention in the market.
benallen12 3 weeks ago
@benallen12 governments steps for taking over medical field
Step 1. government reaches it's grasp towards medical field by heavily regulating it VIA FDA which in turn raises costs
Step 2. Blame it as a failure of the free market that costs have hiked
step 3. Take complete control over medical VIA government insurance policy that heavily reduces medical advancement and requires patients to wait in a long ass line for (weeks) basic forms of treatment
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
"limited government"??? "small government"?? These are empty talking points. The REALITY is when we had MORE government oversight it prevented this melt down for 3/4s of a century! Try reading up on The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 and The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 ensured the deregulation of financial products such as "credit default swaps" and other mind boggling "derivatives" that were previously illegal.
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
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@jessthehorse Try reading up what caused the great depression.
""limited government"??? "small government"?? These are empty talking points."
Discarding history is complete stupidity, Any form that has departed became a dictatorship. But people like you make the same mistakes over and over and over by aiming at the wrong direction.
With limited government companies have to compete inoder to survive. No bailouts, No subsidies. Get it through your thick skull.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
It's so easy to just blather about socialism. Dunces! We now have something close to a quadrillion dollars in derivatives in a world economy that has less than 1/10th that amount in cash. But the estimates are that some $50 trillion remain to be satisfied out of what was only a $50 trillion currency supply when this started. Banks will continue to drain our economies until they are stopped. B of A alone is sitting on more worthless paper than all the currency in the entire world today!
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse "Banks will continue to drain our economies until they are stopped. " the Central banking idea and system was created by the government idiot.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine Actually YOU are the idiot. I am not talking about "the central bank". I am speaking about the half a dozen big private banks, B of A, Wells, Chase, Citi etc who seemed to play quite nicely until the laws which constrained them were removed. Can you say "LAWS"?
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse "I am speaking about the half a dozen big private banks" Which many are UNDER the rules of the federal reserve. God damn you sound like an idiot. Everyone knows you're wrong except you and your sleezy liberal fanatic friends who have never stepped a foot outside into the real world. Government is NOT your family, They will not take care of you. YOU have to take care of yourself dipshit.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine -"government will not take care of you" is the talking point of a peon who has been brainwashed by right wingers who are only marginally smarter than you but that is all they need in order to remove laws that you are too dumb to realize protect us they can steal your money. Government MAKES laws and capitalism requires the rule of law in order to work. For 3/4s of a century we were indemnified against precisely what we have now and you are still too dumb to know it.
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse And since you've never actually listened to Milton, Then I cannot take you seriously, He's proven your shitfest of flawed beliefs wrong over and over and over. Limited government with a Monetary policy that limit's it's spending budget is the only way to go. Anyone who departed from what Milton and the constitution advised went BACKWARDS not forward in technological advancements. Government does not create wealth, and i'll say it over and over and over.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
Milton Friedman? you mean the guy who died in 2006, and never got the chance to see the global economic meltdown caused by the policies? The "Milton" whose policies led to the dot-com bubble, Enron and the related accounting scandals, investment bank conflict-of-interests, the California electricity market crisis, the housing bubble, and the subprime-mortgage fiasco and government regulations are bad? Yea, I just have narrow cultural horizons I guess. Lucky 4 have geniuses like U
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse "and never got the chance to see the global economic meltdown caused by the policies?" His policies had nothing to do with the Bubble bursting. It still surprises me how arrogant and stupid you really are. People are DEPARTING from what Milton believed THAT is why we had the artificial government created bubble. THAT is why our government has such a huge spending debt. And that is why inflation is on the rise once again.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine NO that is NOT "why our government has a large debt" and he did not cause the bubble to burst, they caused the bubble in the first place because it occurred ONLY after deregulation. "deregulation = the removal of laws or guidelines"
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse You liberal ideologists have NO !@#$%^& idea how the world works. It's nice to assume and guess it based upon rhetorical myth.....only when you where in HIGHSCHOOL.
History again proves you and this idiot warren wrong, You and her spout propaganda which involves someone else deciding what's best for someone else. Adam smiths principle remains supreme. So pick up a book and read about economics.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine -Warrren is an American bankruptcy expert, policy advocate, Harvard Law School professor, and confidante to the president. You are a jack ass ranting on You Tube. Hmm, think I will go with her view!
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse Milton Friedman = Nobel peace prize winning economic wizzard
who achieved the following.
Price theory, Monetarism, applied macroeconomics, floating exchange rates, volunteer military, Permanent income hypothesis
Sorry but Milton > liberal bitch queen
He saved Chiles economy from turning into a socialist dictatorship.
Helped eliminated the Draft AND made an accurate model on the harm of heavy government spending, regulations, and it's effects.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse Warren has accomplished NOTHING compared to Milton. Zero, nada, I don't care how much of an accliamed scholar she thinks she is. Anyone can be a scholar, and anyone can attract Via false rhetoric. She knows NOTHING About economics and how this country was run and the type of shit the founding fathers had to deal with. That's why the system is turning to hell. More assholes wanting to increase government spending and control.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse Every one of those your are naming off of your list where failures resulted by government interference.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse Regulations = restrictions on economic activity and freedom for individuals to pursue their own objectives. Government cannot decide what's best for it's civilians. Hell the system cannot even decide what's best for it's self. That's why it has substantially increased during the past few decades with more worthless programs that do nothing but prevent the individual moving out of poverty. Again you guys have failed.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
I have found a new god, leader, and administrator, and her name is Elizabeth
Warren. Mr. Obama is a crook, purely and simply. I cannot revote for this PPP
individual, so I must hold my vote for president. And screw you people who
scream about the SCOTUS. On current terms, there is no hope for what
could be called equitable government voting for either party. This has become
a new quandary for a populace unable to protect itself, and I am unable to find
a solution.
hipocampelofantocame 4 weeks ago
Could Elizabeth Warren make any attempt to look like a woman? She's too butch.
ecnchamp21 1 month ago
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I came up dirt poor. We had nothing. I worked my way thru college and paid every dime of it. Today I make a boatload of money. Now you have people that have dropped out of HS, smoked dope, mae babies they could not support, go into debt........and they want people like me to put a roof over their heads, food on their table, gas in their tanks...........hell no. You don't have to worry about the Tea party, you need to wory about people like me.
MCSnicks 1 month ago
Who's in love with Elizabeth Warren?
avianeddy 1 month ago
The path to hell is paved with good intentions. She's even more a leftist wingnut than Obama, and more emotionally unstable at that.
primusmeridian23 1 month ago
@primusmeridian23 Oh for fuck's sake- Obama is not a "leftist." He's a center-right capitalist. Warren is a real liberal, but she's not a radical. Her statements and policy ideas reflect sound economic principles and a concern for more than just the wealthiest Americans.
And why do you say she's "emotionally unstable?" Is it because she's a woman?
zyxek 1 month ago 9
@zyxek Thank you!
reverenceforall 1 month ago
@zyxek well said, handled this moron well
blastedwpg 3 weeks ago
@zyxek You're right. She's a hard headed liberal. If she actually owned a business she obviously wouldn't be speaking the way she does promoting "fairness" Which isn't fairness at all. Her flawed ideology will make society go BACKWARDS not forwards. The Free market is one of the most dynamic and prized possession man has achieved on this PLANET. No other device can take people out of poverty than it. And The only type of fairness we want is fairness of opportunity through freedom.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@zyxek FURTHERMORE she is very smart and the right wingers are dumber than rocks
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@primusmeridian23 - yea, she's not a "good Christian Republican" like Haley Barbour! LMAO
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
The Fed is a Jesuit creation. The Titanic disaster is related to it as 911 is related to the bogus war on terror and the catastrophic bank bailout and economic disaster. reg6(dot)com. All Jesuit orchestrated. Research it.
EllenGouldWhite 2 months ago
WHEN "WE", bail out EUROPE, "then this will mean that The Federal Reserve, is NOT, any more Federal, than Federal Express"?!? WILL the Sheeple, e-v-e-r wake up............?
crlwllns 3 months ago
"Unlike my opponents, I'm not running from my voting record. I'm not running from my public statements. I'm not running from my predictions. I'm running on them." - Ron Paul *** OurName4Freedom
DanHall4RonPaul 3 months ago
Warren for senator 2012 is looking pretty good right now. Warren for president 2016!
Occupy413 3 months ago
I would vote for this candidate
gwayne919 3 months ago 2
Lol do these people actually think that TARP was a actually an investment? Just logic can be used here, if you were going to invest your money into a company, would you invest in a failing company? Dur, dur, dur, dur..... Elizabeth Warren says nothing extraordinary.
SamuelMoralesJr 4 months ago
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marilynr46 2 months ago
@SamuelMoralesJr Sec of Treas Paulson said it was an "investment". He described it as a "Par Transaction". So he was lying. Gethner was head of the New York Fed and he structured the bailout packages. The financial instutions got special treatment. And there is 78 Billion Dollars missing (not paid back). The money that AIG got, 13 Billion went out the back door to Goldman Sachs investors who were holding credit default swaps. In other words, "fraud" commited by Paulson and Geithner.
marilynr46 2 months ago
@marilynr46 I read that as secretary of treason
Funny thing is that even though I misread it, I'm still right
dffykvn 1 month ago
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Elizabeth Warren, destroyer of capital, proponent of socialism.
SamuelMoralesJr 4 months ago
I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren for President.. Please!!!
jerryandjanet 4 months ago 15
Yeah, she is the best. I sure hope she wins the Senate race.
cvid309 4 months ago 2
She is a godess. She should be our president and Obama should be a garbage collector
jessthehorse 4 months ago 23
@jessthehorse IF, she was voted in as President, "she would also be shown the Zapruder film, just as Obama was". They BOTH, have good intentions. It's the ones pulling their strings, that damn us, the MOST.......
crlwllns 3 months ago
@jessthehorse that's funny because you are speaking socialist rhetoric without even realizing it. Why should I be a surgeon when i can be payed the same amount to collect garbage? Socialism much?
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine -AINT no socialism to it and I'm not sure WHAT anyone who takes that position realizes. What I DO know is that Warren understands what went wrong with this economy. She understands that there is no such thing as robo-signing because robots didn't sign anything and that it was forgery and fraud straight up. Right wingers such as I presume you are from your rhetoric are clueless and have the ironic lack of awareness to talk of "free markets" where there are none.
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse Everyone knows that artificially inflated housing bubble caused the crash when it burst. That isn't new news, It's always liked back to being the goverments fault in the end. It's funny how they interfere by promoting unrealistic mortgages, Then when things get bad it's "oops looks like the market failed on it's own" Same shit with healthcare. At one point it was far cheaper per person, Now since government has stepped in it has risen drastically.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine it's always LINKED to it being the governments fault i meant to say. the modern free market is one of the greatest system that has lead to such monumental achievements in improving many of the ordinary peoples lives. and diverse system there is. It's the only system that has taken people out of poverty and into nice houses so long as that person has the will to work and advance his/her career wherever the job is at.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine -Actually it was when government protections were eliminated with the repeal of Glass Steagall that private sector greed was allowed to become private sector crime. There was no "robo-signin" because robots did not sign anything. We already have words for what happened and they are "forgery" "fraud" "perjury" etc. The Wall St model is stealing billions and then settling repeatedly for pennies on the dollar and THAT my ignorant friend is what happened and continues.
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse "Glass Steagall that private sector greed was allowed to become private sector crime." Greed? Really? Is there anyone in here who isn't greedy? Well i guess i'm not greedy but you sure are with wanting something. Why do people like you never listen to actual economists. You seem to be spun up by media and modern myth about free market capitalism which has NEVER been true.
Political interest is more noble than economic self interest?
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine - by the way, and to address your idiotic statement more directly, no, "everybody does NOT know the housing bubble caused the crash when it burst" and this comment demonstrates your ignorance. The "bubble" was caused by banks selling and re-selling and getting paid multiple times for loans they did not make in the first place. "Securitization". That is why they fired appraisers who would not play ball and had to forge documents to demonstrate ownership to foreclose!
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse and let me tell you how it really works. Government Does NOT create wealth, it does not create fairness either. Especially when aiming for fairness. Warren never read a damn page about what our founding fathers went up against. Government can only change something by taking from point A and dropping it on point B while also taking a bit from that on the way. Businesses. GENERATE wealth through exchange
the fathers knew this that's why they wanted it to be limited.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse not limited exchange. But LIMITED government. You can only go in two directions really. To where you increase government, you will have less freedom. IF you decrease it to more basic functions then you will have far more freedom while still being protected by the law.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse There are indeed free markets. If i wanted to exchange for something else i could certainly do so. However they aren't' as free as the used to be thanks to good old uncle sam.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine - nope - tax and trade policies have almost eliminated "Mom and Pops" and placed huge conglomerates in the easy chair. The market was far MORE free when there was MORE government control. Anti-trust law preventing monopolistic mergers and government oversight of previously illegal products like tax payer insured insurance contracts on risky investments by banks leveraged 30 to 1 prevented precisely what you see now. If a bookie did this the mob would kill him.
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse "The market was far MORE free when there was MORE government control"
"Anti-trust law preventing monopolistic mergers" Two contradicting statements. Look at how most of those companies became so huge to begin with, Almost EVERY monopoly that has sprouted, became that way somehow by government interfering which keeps many competitors out.
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@jessthehorse ATT became so bloated because of many hard coded regulations within the telecomunications industry that kept so many of those smaller competitors out.If you had far fewer regulations, There would be far more small businesses. But again people like you have never picked up a book on economics in your entire life. I sugest you start listening to Thomas Sowell,Milton friedman. and Walter Williams. Those people have studied the market and government far more than you have
tehatemachine 3 weeks ago
@tehatemachine - Walter Williams is a sleazy propagandist and an uncle tom
jessthehorse 3 weeks ago
The look on Dan Rather's face is priceless. How does he stop from laughing? Hank Paulson is Goldman Sach's Puppet. Hmmmmmm.....you didn't know that?
Hehehhehe
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