Shopping with Noam Chomsky subliminally ~---------

[NOmeansnoFAN]

I was weaned on Chomsky and loved his slant on consumerism and state control. Then came 9/11 and his stance on the possibility of an inside job is horrendous. His complete refusal to delve into the idea (it's done, get over it, who cares) is disgusting. He is nothing but part of the intellectual douche bags that would rather talk than do.

[thoughtvideo]

He doesn't have a stance. He claims that he does not have enough knowledge to form an accurate opinion. He said he is interested to see conclusions if specialists in the appropriate field of civil engineering (or what be it) take it seriously.

I question this logic though. The idea that your either with us or against us is the same logic the Bush administration had. The 9-11 truth movement is doing the same thing by insulting and attacking anyone who doesn't agree with them.

[NOmeansnoFAN]

Well having been ridiculed and even vilified has "raised the hackles" of the truth movement. The blind devotion to the official story, while many questions are still unanswered, is angering to some. No matter the suspects there was a conspiracy, which has become a dirty word.

[thoughtvideo]

'blind devotion' is definitely not how I would characterize someone who doubts the plausibility of the 9-11 Truth Movement. No doubt, there are definitely 'unanswered questions'. But that doesn't mean we should rush to conclusions. Especially highly elaborate ones.

It is reasonable to be skeptical of the official story. But it is also reasonable to be skeptical of the 9-11 truth movement's hypotheses because of its complexity and specificity.

[NOmeansnoFAN]

"No doubt, there are definitely 'unanswered questions'."

you are part of the truth movement now!

[thoughtvideo]

Ya I want the truth, and I guess everyone wants truth. that's why I'm more or less being patient, instead of jumping to conclusions and insulting people who disagree.

[NOmeansnoFAN]

the insults were hurled at people who follow the "official story" To follow ANY set of beliefs without looking into the truth and origins is laughable.

Yes I am referring to Mormons, as well as the 911 commish.

[autoarbitaster]

A summary of Chomsky's stance '9/11':

He notes that no one has submitted an article on the hypothesis that the buildings were demolished by means other than aircraft to a scientific/engineering journal.

He notes that there is evidence to suggest that Government intelligence agencies observed evidence predicting the attacks. And considers this weaker conspiracy hypothesis is uncontroversial.

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[autoarbitaster]

He notes that by the actions of US foreign policy it must be inferred that protecting United Statians from terrorist attacks is not a high priority.

And he gives much evidence against the incredible conspiracy theory of a group of numerous conspirators, accross offices and institutions. A sample: he thinks it incredible that leakage of such a plot could be contained, and that the authors of such a plot would have far too much to lose.

[shackleton12]

@NOmeansnoFAN

You've missed the point on Chomsky. Capitalism isn't a conspiracy, it doesn't need inside jobs. 9/11 is totally irrelevant on the scale of human suffering seen in capitalism. It doesn't matter if the towers were blown up by the US government or some Terrorists, the point is, the reaction of the US government to such an 'excuse' shows their character.

[donibelle]

Tech suggestion: The audio level of the background noise should be about half that of the voiceover. Sometimes it's drowning out Chomsky.

[adzug]

yes that was pissin me off

[jcarpenter99]

I'm doing a Chomsky marathon tonight. This one really captured my attention.

[jeffmagic32]

Chomsky is the real fascist.

[siradam575]

What is that statement based on?

[jeffmagic32]

his support for genocidal communists

[siradam575]

Any specifics? Names? Countries?  Facts?

[jeffmagic32]

read any of his "scholarship" on Cambodia. His articles claim, among other things, that the Khmer Rouge killed 20,000 people before the Vietnamese invaded in 1979. This many were killed in the KR's forced evacuation of the cities alone. Within 4 years, they had killed at least 20 % of the population. So, 20,000 (Chomsky) vs. 2,000,000 (Facts). I would call that a genocide denial of the first order.

[Hopeful71]

You are going to have to link that article. Are you actually claiming that Chomsky is denying Pol Pot's actions & 'supporting' his genocide?

I have read some of Chomsky over the years but nothing I have read even comes close to you are claiming. Provide links or be considered a trolling liar. (title & date of the article, not quote mines)

"I would call that a genocide denial of the first order."

You are now making provocative & radical claims; I wait to see how reasoned they are

[jeffmagic32]

"After the Cataclysm" - co-written by fellow Khmer Rouge apologist Edward Herman.

Distortions at Forth Hand - full of genocide denial (10,000 vs 2 million)

Steal yourself a copy of each: Chomksy believes in private ownership so long as he owns the object in question.

[jeffmagic32]

Chomksy and Herman claimed that only 20,000 people were killed by the Khmer Rouge. Now thats provocative and radical. How could they reasonably print such a false statistic? They took the Khmer Rouge's word for it.

[psykotrol]

the US bombing of Cambodia sowed the seeds for the radicalized population to allow Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge to obtain power. If the bombing never happened, we can assume that the climate of fear wouldnt exist, and no genocide wouldve occured. Also, you can't simply put all communists into one big class. Theres several different "flavors" of communism, including the treacheries of Stalinism and Maoism, which the Khmer Rouge initially followed, as well as the PCF, which Pol Pot was influenced by.

[jeffmagic32]

The US certainly did kill many and set the stage, with help from the Chinese and Red Vietnamese, which helped the KR take over. Regarding the many flavors of communism - they all taste terrible. Even the best case scenarios, such as Cuba and... I don't know... maybe Vietnam are places where people desperately try to leave on home made rafts for a chance to live in a free capitalist society.

[psykotrol]

yeah, I agree - communism is generally pretty aggressive and brutal, only a few examples of communism like Ho Chi Minh are relatively moderate, and even he supported purges. Communism as a socioeconomic alternative wont work, ever. But to call our society free is ludicrous. Yeah, we have more freedoms than others, but whats the merit in that? the rest of the world is enslaved to the WTO, IMF, and other rogue organizations. Check out Anarchist Catalonia, it worked, till Franco crushed them.

[jeffmagic32]

for a chance to live in a semi-free semi-capitalist society

[order57]

It's a great piece of work.

Very impressive in terms of message impact.

On me at least.

Greets from italy.

[caisediab]

Thanks for the video. I had the pleasure of meeting Noam in 1994 at Loyola. We discussed the Middle East "peace process," which he saw from the very beginning as a hoax to the Palestinians and the American taxpayer. The criticisms right wingers fling at professor Chomsky reflect their true method: Attack the person, avoid any discussion, or even attempt to understand or examine, his ideas.

[jtischauser1]

nice work.

[greenfury87]

I don't see what Chomsky has against private power. It seems to me while the government is wasting our money, the private sector is creating millions of different goods and services that make lives better. I don't see what kind of society Chompsky envisions. Will we have the products we enjoy today? Propably not. I just don't know what he is trying to do or what he advocates.

[eftekhar2006]

when chomsky is talking about private power, he is not talking about a mom'n pop store or a small corp with 20-50 employees. He is talking about multi-national corporations with thousands of employees and billions of dollars.

[PeterAppleseed]

@eftekhar2006 yeah like this Circuit y we pwned

[eftekhar2006]

In a society that big business doesn't run things, people get together and manufacture their own goods, no body is an "employee" or "worker" every body cooperatively runs and owns and makes important and relevant decisions about how he or she wants his or her community or factory run.

[eftekhar2006]

Since in a world that Chomsky imagines "capital" and financing is distributed fairly and based on people's desires and abilities, not only will we have all the products we "need" and enjoy but also we have goods that we want and need but the corporations don't think we should. to see what I am saying, try to start a company and finance it! the big guys won't let you if you don't do what they want you to.

[KillWoundedEatDead]

wellgee why dont you listen to what he says you fucking moron. holy shit you are one stupid son of a bitch

[thebigoneisbig]

Private companies do not usually create the things you think they do. Computers, electronics, internet, Cell-phones were all created by governments, then handed over to corporations which then made money from the public. The point is simple. Rather than create these things for the use by the public, they are creating them so private interests (namely the ruling class) can continue to extract wealth from the public. If you can't see logic, then read one of his books. There are after all over 100.

[fletchpedro1]

Thank you for making this video. It is a good mix of cool and thinking.

[bigalke]

Man, you're an artist.. Make more.

[hypokrit07]

you missuse chomskys great work with this crappy video. just to be tubed i guess.

[PeterAppleseed]

@hypokrit07 Can u hear yourself over the chatter in your own brain?

[PeterAppleseed]

@hypokrit07 Don't the 6 likers understand high-brow art?? LMAO

[protester]

@PeterAppleseed I watched this a few times and find that the juxtaposition is apropos. I protest the too intellectual detractors!

[happylittlehamburger]

I had no trouble hearing it. Maybe it's because I'm using headphones. Ineresting video concept, I thought it was well done. More of these would be welcome.

[aa6061]

Thank you for the video. I welcomed a chance to Chomsky's in-depth comment/analysis. I have a request though: Could you reduce the sound from the shopping expedition a little? It was so hard to tune it out and concentrate on the soft voice of Chomsky that it discourages me to watch it again. I think you might have meant it metaphorically, but I'd like to get Chomsky's messages more clearly. Thanks.

[entertainmentgiant]

aa6061 I aim to do another one with Chomsky featured in the soundtrack. Stay tuned. I think it will go on this channel or the other one - entertainmentgiant

[PeterAppleseed]

englishtamil couldnt seem to hear all the words... any else having so much trouble? Maybe its the speakers? Or is it the YT formatting to flash file. When I mixed it, the audio was fine. I didnt expect to hear EVERY word, but the multiple tracks could be discerned enough.

[JazzArt2000]

@PeterAppleseed why would you try to put two tracks over each other. this hearts the message by making it confusing and hard to focus on.

[PeterAppleseed]

@JazzArt2000 subliminal. This is for people who dont know Chomsky's message yet. And they are shoppers who can only get it subliminally.

[R4GENYC]

So what did you heist from Circuit City? :D

[PeterAppleseed]

Watch the hands carefully. Oops, the camera was not quicker than the eye. Camera missed it.

[entertainmentgiant]

sHH DON'T LET the secret out!

[PeterAppleseed]

englishtamil: notice in the beginning I make it quite clear - the 1st thing you hear "THIS IS JUST A TASTE TO WHET YOUR APPETITE"

[englishtamil]

man you ruined the whole thing. I can't hear what the guy in the shop was saying because of Chomsky was loud, then I couldn't hear what Chomsky was saying about Freidman because your car stereo was letting Gnarler Barkley yell his guts out. Do us all a favour, re-edit, re-channelize the audio. It's just irritating

[PeterAppleseed]

i understand your frustration, but this is comical primarily. And the chomsky is intentionally played as a subliminal background as a metphor of what thoughts are in my head as I shop and drive. IF YOU WANT A LESSON in Chomsky , you have two choices, go to a channel that is devoted primaerily to chomsky OOORRR ask me nicely to put out another video. But I would rather not redo this one. Thanks for your feedback. Discerning ears want to know!

[englishtamil]

I'm not going to ask you nicely because I have already found another video which, in the name of being metaphorical or subliminal (and end up fucking the whole thing up), has the actual footage. Bedies, I have extensive to Chomsky's interviews, I just thought I should let you know.

[blaynestaley]

What chomsky interview is the audio in this video from? msg me or post a link or something. I'd love to know. thanks.

[Lifepeacetruthlove]

LOL, you didn't buy anything!

[EuterpeJonesVideo]

Thanks for sharing these videos.

[aarozona]

Hanging out with Noam Chomsky? I'd be wary.

[battim]

chomsky certainly has some insightful viewpoints...thanks for sharing..

[BurnsyJones]

error can't rate wtf. lol, dude i love the driving 'rants'

[PeterAppleseed]

BurnsyJones: I can not even count how many times I have... try and try again is all I can recommend. But we may have noticed on the MysterEy1 channel... I've DISABLED the COMMENTS altogether because of getting a multitude of complaints that people cannot post comments to my videos. Conspiracy theory?? Well there's one way to beat the beast here - post video responses. I dont care if it's 3 seconds long. Its more guaranteed than comments!!!

[BurnsyJones]

u saw the one i gave to Utubia Ramblins i hope

[PeterAppleseed]

yes that was awesome. ABSOLUTENESS, right. You are setting the trend. I wish that everyone would post video responses to my videos. I'm feeling that MysterEy1 is converting over to that exact Protocol.