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  • 臺灣中國,一邊一國!

  • 臺灣中國,一邊一國!

  • Go Taiwan! Get your permanent seat in the UN from those communist bastards of the PRC! Long live democracy and a democratic china!

  • pan green can suck it. long live kmt and pan blue

  • can someone pls tell me what is China's national language, and what is Taiwan's national language? thanks in advance....I'm serious.

  • taiwan?

    noo, but ROC yes!!

  • The world needs something better than the UN

  • goddamn taiwan gypsies.

  • stupid pan green

  • Taiwan should join the United Nations as an independent country.

    However, China thinks it is impossible when it is in the permanent member of the United Nations. China is very bad existence for Taiwan, Japan, Tibet, and east Turkistan.

  • @USAsiaEU you're a bad existence in general for humankind when you don't even know shit about the history behind it. Know your facts before flapping your gums. Fyi: I'm not a commie yapping away so you can save it.

  • UN for Taiwan.

    And if not UN = UNhumenright

  • coolhiphopfan, u are right, it's a crime to kill somebody in taiwan as well, so taiwan is not free. u can probably do that in china. i guess china is the freest country in the world huh.

  • 李连杰是大陆中国人

    章子怡是大陆中国人

    周迅是大陆中国人

    赵薇是大陆中国人

    刘亦菲是大陆中国人

    张靓颖是大陆中国人

    李宇春是大陆中国人

    巩俐是大陆中国人

    李冰冰是大陆中国人

  • daydreaming UK bastards

  • 「中國」的古人都說:自古台灣不屬中國

    陳第:1603年說【東番夷人不知所自始】。

    鄭經:1663年說【東寧與中國版圖渺不相涉】。

    黃宗羲:在明末曾言【台自破荒,不載版圖】。

    康熙皇帝:1683年【台灣得之無所加,不得無所損】。

    郁永河:1698年【台灣迄未與中國通一譯之貢】。

    雍正皇帝:1722年【台灣地方,自古未屬中國】。

  • mainland have acknowledged the existance of the island of Taiwan way longer than the first western vessels that touched on its shores...

    The Portugese did once attempted to set a trading port on Taiwan, but in the end the geography was so bad they abandoned the little desolate island

    Without China, Taiwan was never found, without the Chinese blood running in your veins, Taiwanese don't even have a nationality

  • 台灣還需要被發現嗎?台灣的祖先在島上早就認識了自己的土地。

    哪裡還輪的到國外政權,再說發現台灣的是葡萄牙人, Formosa你沒聽過吧!

  • Because ancient China didn't deem you as important enough and didn't invade you doesn't mean China didn't discover you, did it? Humans discovered Mars, but can't invade it, so by your common sense humans haven't discovered Mars yet?

    是逃离清朝统治的明朝后代给Fromosa"带来的文化,大量提­升了台湾祖先的生活条件。并且明朝是哪国的一部分历史?中国。不­然的话我都想象不出来现在的台湾是什么样子...

  • 你別搞笑了,越來越多人認知到中國人扯謊歷史的功力!古老的來台­灣的漢人,稱為羅漢腳!是專門到台灣燒殺搶劫的!這你不知道吧。­所以我說中國人無知!滿清皇帝都知道台灣自古不通中國,哪裡還輪­的到明朝。

    台灣只要一接觸到中國,該時期的文明就會到退!荷治時期的台灣,­荷蘭人協助了台灣人發展文字,鄭式是禁止與台灣人通婚的!

  • Do we need to be found ?

    In any case, documented in the literature are not Chinese!

  • sure you don't know what's wrong, that's why we know china is nothing like taiwan when we meet ppl like you

  • oh wow... China is nothing like Taiwan huh...

    haha, you are funny as hell.

    i said i dont see anything wrong with me is because there are nothing wrong with wanting my country to be united.

  • interesting, like it really happened

  • hehe, it has never happend yet, and it will never gonna happen.

  • oh u'll be surprised how soon it'll happen. not happening yet =\= not going to happen.

    fk taiwanese are stupid

  • Taiwan is not free

    In taiwan u could be arrested for smoking inside a hotel, thats not freedom.

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  • @coolHipHopFan

    那是為了你及周遭人的健康著想

  • lot of taiwan ppl were educated to be a chinese but when we know ppl like u, we found china and taiwan are so different

    if u dont hate china, please stop talking shit to hurt china

    btw, what u said is just making the taiwan-china relationship even worse

  • that's why taiwan ppl don't like ppl like u

  • 對!!!! 台灣就是台灣 事實改變不了 恩!既然中國人說了(只有愚笨的台湾人才以为中国人要台湾人当中­国人) ~哈~~但我不笨~ 是誰不愛排隊~ 是誰不衛生~ 哪來詐騙集團~ ~~~~是誰~ 算了~ 對阿 那你們要什麼~ 說出來只是透露出 醜陋中國人性格 ~yep~
  • Taiwan and China are different

  • yes.

    one is a country,

    and one is not.

  • we dont know how you see china, but taiwan is different

  • i dont know how you see Taiwan, but China is different.

  • so we know china and taiwan are different, that's good

  • yes.

    everybody knows,

    China is a country,

    Taiwan is not.

    get it? thats the difference between Taiwan and China.

  • that is wrong, people even hold different passport in taiwan and china

  • ok?

    so what does that mean?

  • i guess u don't care what taiwan people feel

    the thing is taiwan try to make friends with china but china is trying to rule taiwan

    taiwan just want to be simply taiwan, not part of anyone else

    we respect china is a country and please china leave taiwan alone

  • @wcy1009 they may be different and have their own entities but they are and will always be one nation!

  • 文化大革命破壞了中國五千年的文化,繁體字才是文化的傳承!台灣­加油!

  • 简体繁体都是中国字。

  • Chaosyi, you don't know anything. Taiwan isn't recognised because china makes countries choose between china or taiwan, and people pick china ONLY because they are one of the drivers of the world's economy.

    Also, the government that once ruled china split off the mainland and formed a democratic gov on taiwan, and china formed their own SEPARATE COUNTRY called PRC. We were separated at THAT stage. You don't even know your history, you can't say Taiwan has been part of China for 5000 years!

  • 中華民國是一個獨立自主的國家和台灣是一個獨立自主的國家是沒有­區別的。只有愚笨的中國人以為台灣人想當中國人。

  • 中华民国是一个独立自主的国家,对,但中华民国已经不存在了,搞­清楚先..呵呵。

    台湾是一个独立自主的国家,错。请问台湾什么时候成国家了? 国家的名字是什么?

    只有愚笨的台湾人才以为中国人要台湾人当中国人。

  • 中國人是不是天生不要臉? 知識又不足,又不要虛心求教 只會被中國共產黨洗腦 可惜中國什麼幾千年文化,哪有用! 你們中國人已被共產黨搞到文化知識倒退五千年! 自己毫無能力做自我檢討 言行舉止在任何場合都是那麼的無法變通又低級! 希望中國人也有一天有能力做思考 不要再為共產黨背書了! 台灣人就人文素養,民主風氣,知識水準都比中國人高太多了! 所以中國人沒有資格想要管台灣,更沒有權力想要犯台! 國際已對現在中國越來越反感了! 請醒一醒吧!中國人!先把你們自己管好吧!
  • 台灣已經是一個完整的國家

    台灣有獨特的歷史和文化

    台灣人知識水準高,有勇氣,有骨氣

    台灣人愛好和平,幫助世人的大愛心懷世界第一

    台灣人活的有自由,有尊嚴

    台灣的經濟活力強!

    台灣人的民主素養更是全亞第一!

    所以呢,中國在那自言其說,也不看看中國自己在一個國家的全方位­的發展落後台灣太多了! 看看中國當局如何對待中國的"香港同胞(沒有言論自由,沒有信仰­自由),西藏同胞(次等公民,傳統的信仰被中國刻意破壞)"。當­然 香港同胞和西藏同胞會抗議中國當局,因為當了中國同胞後發現代價­不值得啊!

  • 你在台湾的山里住么?

    我想有口你应该跑到香港,大陆,或西藏逛逛.

    弄清楚了再开始造谣。

  • Thank you! I agree absolutely!!

  • 一年工資= =

    在台灣吃一餐飯都不夠吧

  • 台灣加油吧

    相信加入的那一天

    一定會到來..

    台灣人的精神永不放棄.

    加油

  • Most important is letting Mainland tourists come to Taiwan to bail out the economy. It took only one year to do so in Hong Kong after SARS, so Taiwan should take just 7 months.

    Taiwan's key trading partners U.S. and Japan are in recession this year, so letting in the Mainland tourists is the last chance to salvage Taiwan's economy in 2008.

  • Plus, these taiwanese in UK can just represent those who support the green party, not all taiwanese people.

  • One China, two system for Hong Kong.

    One China, two names (two explaination) for Taiwan.

    This is the greatest common divisor for the both side.

    As an ordinary chinese living in the mainland. We have a favorable impression on Kuomintang (pan-blue party) and Republic of China. We will never forget the contribution they made to develop China.

  • En ce qui concerne la souveraineté, j'estime qu'il n'y a que la véritable démocratie qui puisse donner la plénitude de la souveraineté au peuple. Après 58 ans de règne, le régime communiste ne l'a toujours pas fait et il ne s'apprête pas à le faire non plus.

  • But it's not in the official treaty archives in both US and Japan so therefore, "not official". ^_^ The declaration wasn't signed.

  • YES,TAIWAN

    UN FOR TAIWAN

    大家一起來用選票支持

    Thank you

  • You go Taiwan!

    Japan support you, too.

    There's no reason for USA go against UN for Taiwan.

  • I hope for a peaceful change in the status quo. The only ones who threaten it are the Chinese government with those missiles that act like blackmail. That's where a change needs to be made. People are not always happy with the status quo. Can't live in a bubble forever with China threatening to cause destruction over identity.

  • We want peace and co-existence. Taiwan wants peace under its own name and co-existence. Ever since Japan left Taiwan, Taiwan became neutral. Australia and the US are their own countries from the UK. Can't see why Taiwan cannot be like Australia. Go Taiwan for UN! ^O^

  • Completely different situations. USA won their freedom through military conflict, Australia got their freedom because the british empire was deteriorating and there wasnt enough resources to sustain and hold onto such a wide empire.

  • Yes, so they did. Although different situations, was just using them as examples lightly. They don't have to be similar in any way. Just expressing an "idea" version of what I'm trying to mean. ^_^ Haha..

  • There are many things which bind taiwan to china ethically, for example when chiang Kai-shek retreated to taiwan he took china's entire forgein and silver reserves, leaving the entire population to bacially die but making taiwan economically stable (the whole country was suffering from hyper inflation at the time). Without the initial capital taiwan wouldnt have the economic success it has had.

  • Ah, but the aboroginies were already on Taiwan. Taiwan was also invaded by the Dutch. CKS retreated to Taiwan and brought other Chinese with him. Taiwan was also split because China did not want to deal with aboriginies on one side of the country. BUT...Taiwan was only a part of China for a few years. Just because CKS was in Taiwan making Taiwan seem like its own "China".

  • But Taiwan was never officially part of China. Therefore, Taiwan was neutral. ^_0 Japan took over Taiwan for fifty years. It was because of Japan that a lot of improvements were made. There were negative aspects of the event, true, but the pros out weigh the cons. That happens in every country. Anyways, after Japan left Taiwan, Taiwan went back to being what it was. A neutral country. ^__^

  • It never declared itself fully independent but it never stated that it was a territory of another country. The "ROC" in its name shouldn't even count because that only represented CKS's time.

  • And although economy is important to a country, I believe people's happiness should come first. It's unfortunate that China only believes that being big in the economy is important more so than the welfare of a lot of their people. Thus, that's why that country has a lot of "dissidents". They just can't accept free speech.

  • Throughout china's long history taiwan was noted to be in existence, kang xi emperor of the qing dynasty for example invaded successfully and made taiwan officially apart of china. After the defeat of japan taiwan was officially given back to china.

  • Im pretty sure the reason why china wants to increase the size of the economy is to proved better welfare for its people. In terms of free speech i went to china recently and human rights has improved quite alot, but there are still more to be done. As you know universal suffrage is a process, china has come a long way in a relatively short space of time.

  • doesnt the aboriginies on taiwan have virtually the same genes as aboriginies from the "fujian" province? i know the language they both use are the same aswell "mi nan"

  • Only in the major cities would China care for the economy but that's what it wants everyone else around the world to think. If you go out to the country side, China does imminent domain on farms and the farmers protest. In the US, you have a chance to override imminent domain. In China, the government would shoot your complaints down in an instant.

  • It is true that China is still trying to imrpove itself but the government is very stubborn. They don't want to change completely as long as they have control still. Blocking Youtube and Google. They're very sensitive to their global "image". Many people have turned blind eyes to what they're doing because of their economy.

  • And yeah, the aboriginies share some traits but they were really the first inhabitants of Taiwan. Since Taiwan already went through a lot of cultural changes, that affected the aboriginies throughout history. Also, nope, you got it wrong.

  • Taiwan was an official province of China for only 8 years before it was given to Japan. ^_0 And before that, China never actually claimed Taiwan as its own at all. Only at 1887. Once Japan let Taiwan go, Taiwan became neutral. It never went back to China. It's only China that's saying that Taiwan is still a part of China.

  • And so, that's kind of what makes this whole situation complicated for both sides. *sighs* I wish for big changes not just for China but also for North Korea and Myanmar in the future.

  • don't you know history? then you would know that 'all' empires cannot last forever. rulers change, revolutions occur, wars happen - you cannot forcibly control a nation that does seeks its independence politically speaking. eventually taiwan will gain its political independence given the are basically independent from you already in reality.

  • What is history? History is man-made, not created with imagination. I agree with you when you said you can not forcibly control a nation. The American people gained their indepenence, but by fighting a fierce war.

  • In a sense, Taiwan is independent from the mainland, and I won't deny that. We are also comfortable with this situation. And I believe it is for the best that Taiwan keeps the status quo. There will be no war, no casualties, no bombards, and the Mainland still does not control Taiwan. Does that sound good enough?

  • But for Taiwan to seek independence in the UN is just unacceptable. Then there will be a war to fight if you guys do support that. Those who support UN for Taiwan clearly overlook the forthcoming repercussions. Is that really for the good of both the people in Taiwan and in Mainland? Or are you really hunger for blood to be shed so that you guys can enjoy the disastrous scene on TV?

  • People, thinking before you leap. It is not just a video on youtube, it is about thousands of lives, millions of homes and terrible outcomes.

  • I'm Japanese who live in US,OK?!

    Don't you deny any support from Japanese people!

  • Japanese support Taiwan!

    I can't betray my friends.

  • Yes,Taiwan

    UN for Taiwan

  • i support Taiwan.

  • hypocritical british. they still maintain the diplomatic relationship with "us", rather than Taiwan.

  • iv been to UK this summer,

    what a great nation,

    it didn't rule the minority(scottish)

    but yet give more powers to them

    hope china one day will give the same respect to taiwan.

  • first of all, Taiwanese is not minority since 98% of you guys are ethnic Han Chinese. secondly, Communist party does not equal to China. finally, Taiwan is more qualified to represent the whole China than the mainland.

  • No. Too be honest, the percentage is 14%, since most of the other people have usually about 10 - 15 % Han, whilst the 14% includes anyone who has over 50% Han.

  • Excellent video. We should all have a look at the foul things done by china and see how Taiwan struggles to defend their rights. Go Taiwan!!

  • I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE love lovE TAIWAN!! TAIWAN FOAR EVER!!! UN FOR TAIWAN!!!!!

  • how come chinese people often use these dirty words to abuse Taiwan? try to make a comment which is meaningful and practical. use ur knowledge and facts to support your idea.

    or those words are based on your knowledge?!

    heh....

  • taiwanese chinese ppl actually use bad words to diss their fellow mainland chinese ppl btw. also, don't hide behind japanese names. :/

  • 我是台灣人,這活動太棒了啦!謝謝英國的朋友們!

    但是

    下次咱們紅白藍的大國旗請放多一些

    少一些綠白的"黨旗"好嗎@_@

    會被外國人搞混的

  • come on guys...stop insulting others... we're not in high school anymore, plus if we really want to get our message out then I really don't think insulting others is such a good idea.

    But keep on the good job!! and don't give up!!

    love xoxo

  • every cleaver man know that Taiwan IS NOT A PART OF UGLY CHINA.Taiwan has it's own government,people.

    We support there is only one China in the world.but there is a new country named Taiwan on earth.

  • 我完全贊成世界上只有一個中國

    但那與台灣無關

    台灣屬於台灣國

  • 沒錯沒錯沒錯沒錯

    中國只有一個 給中國人去當

    跟我們沒關係

  • chinese r pathetic....they don't even understand the meaning of human right!!! cuz they never get their right, i guess.. they r so deeply brain wash by their evil goverment, i totally give up to argue with their short-sight vision. UN for Taiwan go

  • Taiwan go go go

    UN FOT TAIWAN

  • There is only 1 UN seat for China, either ROC or PRC. Never ROT. Only Tuvalu and Burkina Faso support U. LOL.

  • There is only 1 UN seat for China, and it is PRC. I do not believe that the China seat will be replaced by ROC unless PRC change its name to ROC. There is no UN seat for Taiwan right now, but it is unfair and will be changed in the future. Unlimited Taiwan !

    Taiwan join UN as a new nation. Taiwan Go Go GO ! Chhut-Thau-Thinn !

  • 台灣、中國一邊一國,台灣是台灣,中國是中國,台灣是主權獨立國­家,就是要以台灣名義加入聯合國

  • 台灣加油啊!我永遠支持台灣~

    呼籲所有的台灣同胞一起站出來~加油

    團結力量大

  • Wow! I cannot believe it. Taiwan Indepedent is growing stronger and stronger.

    I am proud to be taiwanese.

    By the way, there are a lot of Chinese communist spies on this website.

  • Taiwan is the indepedent country!

    Taiwan is Taiwan!China is China.

    It's very different between these two country.

    So Taiwan go go go !

    I always for Taiwan forever....

    It's not only UN for Taiwan.

    The whole world are all for Taiwan.

    Taiwan cheers up.

  • viva TAIWAN!! viva TAIWANESES!! Sofia ARGENTINA

  • Viva British victory in the Malvinas!

  • haha keep bitching Taiwan

    The UK government is under the spell of the CHinese government

    In the last vote in the UN, 17/192 countries voted in favour of UN for Taiwan.

    Then this year, General Secretary Ban Ki Moon personally rejected Taiwan symbolising SOuth Korea's stance.

  • Taiwan Go Go Go!!!

  • very nice way to demonstrate by ship and very well said!

    go taiwan go!

  • As we all know that Taiwan has every right to join Taiwan. As long as the majority of Taiwanese citizens want to join Taiwan, U.S. and other nations will support this rightful action. Chhut-Thau-Tinn ! Taiwan Go Go Go !

  • There is only one UN seat for China, either PRC or ROC. Taiwan is a province of China.

  • 胡說八道鬼話連篇

  • You are absolutely right on the "There is only one UN seat for China". But it is for PRC only. Taiwan is NOT a part of China, it is an indepedent democratic nation with freedom, good human rights record. Taiwan's population is 23 million, and its size is 3,6000 square KM.

  • A survey report issued by Zogby International, one of the three leading public opinion firms in the U.S., as indicating that 55 percent of American people polled said Taiwan should be allowed into the U.N., and that the percentage had shot up 15 percentage points to 70 percent if Taiwan's national referendum on its U.N. bid is endorsed by a majority of Taiwanese citizens

  • Some 55 percent of "American people (USA)" have shown their support for Taiwan's bid to join the United Nations. The percentage would shoot up to 70 percent if Taiwan passes a national referendum, in an interview published in the German weekly Spiegel yesterday. Leading newspapers, such as the Wall Street Journal, Seattle Times & Oklahoman have voiced their support for Taiwan's U.N. membership bid. Many U.S. congressmen issued statements to uphold Taiwan's right to enter the U.N.

  • UN FOR TAIWAN!

  • UN FOR TAIWAN!

  • 反正。。我希望我下面留的回應可以來代表我這個阿度仔支持臺灣進­入聯合國的情緒!

    臺灣加油!臺灣萬歲!耶!

  • damn...i really wish i had known that this was happening in London...i was trying to find out about any UK events, as I already was aware there were going to be events in Kaohsiung and NY.

  • damn...i wish i had known about this rally in london...i knew about the simultaneous rallies in Kaohsiung and New York...was trying to find out about any here...i would have been delighted to show my support as an 阿度仔 for the Taiwanese people, for justice, and for democracy.

    臺灣萬歲!臺灣加油!

    聲援臺灣進入聯合國!耶!

  • Japan gave up legal sovereignty of Taiwan in 1952 as per the Treaty of San Francisco. There was no stated recipient.

    As per UN Charter such territories that were not seded to anyone, have the right to SELF-DETERMINATION by the people living within that area.

    Thus, The future of Taiwan is upto the Taiwanese people themselves, and NOT upto the 1.3 billion chinese on the mainland. This is in keeping with International Law

  • Furthermore, when Japan surrendered Taiwan, they surrendered it to the Allied Forces. It was handed to ROC for 'temporary' administration only. Taiwan was not ceded to china, or to the ROC, in fact it was not ceded to anyone.

    In 1949 when the ROC fled to Taiwan, Taiwan legally was still Japanese territory. Therefore Taiwan NEVER split from China as it was NEVER part of China.

  • 3. The Qing empire was not even a chinese empire, it was a Manchu empire - a people who ethnically were never chinese, never spoke chinese, never wrote chinese characters, and had a different culture, in short they were not chinese.

  • WRONG! Chinese mean the people of 56 nations who live in China. Ohterwise Sui, Tang, Song... dynasty was NOT Chinese as well. What you talked about was Han nationality that is the one nation of entire China. Different nations took power of China in civil war during Chinese 6000 years. You should get some education before posting.

  • 3. The Qing empire was not even a chinese empire, it was a Manchu empire - a people who ethnically were never chinese, never spoke chinese, never wrote chinese characters, and had a different culture, in short they were not chinese.

  • U must an intelligent statement in yr comment. Truly remarkable. Keep it up.

  • U MAKE an intelligent statement in yr comment. Truly remarkable. Keep it up. TQ

  • Secondly, Taiwan historically has never been part of China. And don't tell me about the 200 year rule by the Qing empire - 1. taiwan was a colony of the empire (just like india was once a colony of the british empire), 2. the qing dynasty never controlled the whole of Taiwan, only the western parts (most of the island was controlled by the native aborigines and qing officials even paid tribute to the aborigines),

  • (the taiwanese aboriginese - they should at least be given the rights accorded to them in the recent Declaration of Rights for Indigenous Peoples passed by the UN a few days ago).

  • The Taiwaness are also Chinese. Taiwan has been a part of China from the ancient time. If taiwan want to enter UN, it should get the permission of the 1,3billion Chinese mailand people. I believe all of the 1,3billion people will against taiwan's entering UN.

  • Firstly, not all taiwanese are chinese. approximately 2% of the population are native aborigines (原住民) who have no relation whatsoever to China, they are Austronesian, have completely different languages, and indeed have been on Taiwan for thousands of years. They are the first and longest possessors of the Island and should arguably have most say in what happens to Taiwan

  • The American people are mostly Britain. In order for American to be independent, all the British people have to vote for it. Does that make any sense to you?

  • Yes, we all support UN membership for TAIWAN!

  • UN for TAIWAN!!! All for it!

  • UN Membership for Taiwan :D

  • support Taiwan join UN!

    Taiwan is not China!

    UN is for every country in the world!

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