This is just a demonstration! For those who can't grasp the concept of it, this is what it means "the act of presenting something to sight or view"... that's why it's done at a slow speed by both attacker and defender!
Love to read all the comments by people saying this is bullshit... I would love it even more if they actually TRIED going against those who practice this martial art and know what they are doing and THEN say it's "bullshit"! LOL
this is indeed shit but kali silat isn't any better you fool. boxing/muay thai/grappling for empty hands, pistols/revolvers for knife defense is the only way. live with it
What? That's absurd. First of, "pistols/revolvers" aren't available everywhere. Knifes are. Also, what happens when you try to box/grapple multiple opponents, or, heavier, BETTER BOXERS, BETTER GRAPPLERS?
Well, you're fucked or you can learn Kali that will teach the usage of improvised weapons as well as blades. And no, having a gun does not mean you're automatically safe from any knife attacker
@JaktFibaz Sure, that's the whole idea of self defense. But anyway, that's not always possible. Would you think someone fucking someone else's wife is in a dangerous place?
oh you're talking about something that actually happened, I thought you were talking about a hypothetical situation. yes, that's a tragedy, but I think we can all agree you shouldn't be fucking someone's wife.
Dude,pro is a pro.Amateur can never win over some1 with elite training.Morever fact he kicked your ass may mean hes a good warrior,not that his style is superior.Most veterans r capable to do the same.There is no BEST style,good warrior should adapt various techs for purposose of winning.Counter also uses kinetic energy of opponent but many throws won't work when fighting opponent who isnt dumb enough to bull-charge u.Dunno if systemas good,but whats shown here is just laugh
I do believe that the SPETSNAZ, Israeli Mossad, and US SPECOPS have the best hand to hand training in the world......besides maybe the Soth Korean 707th Special missions Brigade (white tigers)
This is severe failure. I would rate Aikido on a higher tier for street fights than this bullshit. If you're looking for some real and practical self defense look into Krav Maga.
Bullshit? This is bullshit? I don´t know any martia art where the movements are that precise and smooth, without loosing any more energy than is needed. this IS the best of the best. Used by Russian Special forces. And your Aikido? used by who?
Yep, bullshit. He's just patting the guy and he's rolling. They're just putting on a show. Movements are smooth but slow, powerless and resisting oponent won't feel pain or much less be thrown. Special forces? Could be, but israeli soldiers learn more advanced (n brutal) style of Krav maga than civils. I seriously doubt this crap can be useful.
It is being used by elite Russian Special Forces (Spetsnaz). Although I expect you to write now something like: " Russian Special Forces are shit, Israeli and American SF rule!" I still want you to understand, that if this was useless, the Russian SF would not use it in any way. Brutal? That´s good for movies. Systema is meant to bring an enemy on the ground, by using a minimum of energy. If you have several enemies and 25kg of stuff carrying with you, THIS COUNTS MORE THAN BRUTALITY!
Nope,but SF do not use only 1style and they might not use same techs as shown here.Minimum energy works only when applied on pressure points or levers.This here could work only when you know where hit is gonna land wchich doesn't happen in reality.Look at his student,he's just playing along!When facing multiple enemies you leave yourself wide open when using throws.Not to mention this knife defense is ridiculous,it requires reflexes.Your oponent WILL use brutal force,your hand will be swept away
Damn man, this video is a training session, ment for TRAINING. Your Israeli Soldiers, which you´ve mentioned don´t beat each other half to death in training as well. If he would fulfill this movements in real speed, no one could see, how this all works, plus, he would most likely harm his student, cause Systema is not a sport or something, but is a military martial art. And Systema IS being used by the Russian SF. It is not as easy to learn, as it is to be "brutal", but is is more effective.
systema isn't exclusive 1 n only Rus SF use.Besides there r too many unnecesary movements.I'm not saying SF don't use it, it's just that techs shown here will get u killed.Before something like that could be applied you'd get stabbed couple of times.I trained krav maga,ai kido and boxing,althou I'm not an expert it's gotten easy to distinguish good techniques.ALL styles R BRUTAL and ALL are military arts.Effective=finish the fight asap and efficiently.Punch is ALWAYS faster n easier than throw
Punch is more effective than throw?? Systema is meant to use the cinetic energy of the person, who attacks you against him. So brutal attacks are absolutely useless against a systema pro. I was training for one week in Berlin with an Ex- GRU- Spetsnaz Coach. Before that, I was doing Kickboxing for 5 years, and Mai Tai for 1 Year. At the first day, he told me: Hit me, how ever you want me to. I didn´t even recognize how I got on the Ground. Systema IS the best.
You won´t believe it, until you yctualy fight against an Ex- Spetsnaz who uses Systema. Try to beat him whatever way you like. I give you my word, you won´t even be able give him 1 single punch.
i think you're pretty much right. If you see this knife defense and take for example escrima (wich has great knife fighting) you will see the difference.
Great piece of work! Even responding to simplified although improvised attack he does not accelerate but pinpoints force application to weaken attackers dynamics. This is sniping not artillery. Both will do the job but at different cost.
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LOL...... fuck that fat fucker, and Fuck you too Smoki ganster wannabe loudmouth motherfucker. How about you and I roll, so I can bash your skull in on the curb??
no one gives a fuck about your record store you hip-hop homo, shut the fuck up.... you aint getting much "training" by makin records. I fight semi-pro with a 8-2-0 record and I am saying that SYSTEMA SUCKS too. Internet pussy loudmouth
Indeed pitbulls. that is correct. Systema is not taught in Russian military.That is marketing propaganda. Sambo is the Russian military science and it works. It still amazes me how many people fall for this Systema "jedi mind control " nonsense.
They preach all this mind/body control yet a large proportion of its instructors are fat, out of shape frauds (like this video). True martial artists and fighters understand how important conditioning and exercise are. AND SO DOES THE MILITARY. get real
During Desert Storm the unit i was assigned to was piggybacking in a commandeered pakistani work camp with a russian paratroop infantry platoon. They even said from their own mouthes that systema was crap. Russian military trains in Sambo, not Systema.
ive been to moscow. I have plenty of "knowledge" about it. In early nineties one of my ju-jitsu instructors began training in systema because he thought ( due to its marketing) that is was a military combatives science. He stopped training in it because every seminar he went to (including russia) was full of fantasy brainwashed students that had no technical skill in fighting, just in fraud ass energy shit.
My dead brain runs a record label and 2 music stores.
Now please, take your jiu-jitsu, your ex-army and your 8 miles every two days, and bring it in front of Vasiliev or Ryabko - then, and only then, you feel free to come and comment some bullshit. Ft. Bragg lmfao...Those guys must've been a couple punks.
Um dos vídeos mais mentirosos que já ví, o gordinho parece que faz carinho do magrelo e ele já se joga no chão !?!? Se colocar esse bolo fofo em uma cituação real ele já era... Nossa; como tem charlatão nesse mundo.
anytime you wanna come to the US and find out douchebag your more than welcome... i am a jiu-jitsu black belt and fight muay thai. I have trained with and against systema guys at Ft.Bragg. Their shit is all theory. you pressure their methods with skill and it falls apart, like aikido. You wanna make Aikido technique fail? RESIST and fight back. THe same with systema.. As far as the cholesterol thing, you ignorant cocksucker, i run 8 miles every two days and fight heavyweight, and am ex Army.
The fuck I'd wanna come US for? You're the one coming talking trash about something you have no knowledge on, so why don't you take your ass to Russia and fight Vasiliev or Ryabko.
hey there russian master of knife dancing. you wanna quick lesson in knife combatives. try that weak defense against a shanker in an american prison. Folsom would teach you real quick just how ineffective systema is.
this is stupid its playing with your life please before any one say any thing and with all respect to all Russian ppl look for this video its called >> Paul Vunak Knife Philosophy . and you will know what i am talking about !!
systema has the closest feeling of combat I have had since i have been back from the sand box nothing like the fear of death to bring you back and make you fill alive.Reminds of that famous Spec ops saying."you have never lived until you nearly have died. and for those who have ,freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.That is why Ilove training in systema so much its not the from of training in my day too day ops but its a big one
if you think systema is worthless crap then go to toranto to the north american headquarters of systema and wait till val vasiliev the cofounder leaves and attack him. people who talk smack about what they dont totally understand are the worst kind of idiots.
I train systema and had the privilege to train with mikhail and the guy is amazing, he his very fluid and unpredictable he commands the situation always and has no form he is like a puppet master. A sign of a master make things look so easy.
Ive been to Systema classes and i thought it was crap,the exercises were pointless,slow motion moving teaches nothing,plus i found most of the people that stick with Systema are from a Tai Chi background.
i bet all this "expert-fighters" who give this "expert-comments" never had any live experience with systema. talking is cheap- go and practice, maybe than you will understand a little more.
@blackbelt leroy- combat sambo comes from the same source as systema- cossack traditions.
Judging by some of the comments, the authors are just wasting time watching videos and never train. You guys might aswell give up.
In case you misinterpreted the video - this is not a training manual, it's just a demonstration of dynamics and force application. Watch the Takemusu Aiki, and you will see exactly the same thing. In fact, I would double dare you to take on the Aikido creator and try your "reality" bullshit.
all you bitch bags that are non believers of Systema, go watch your kitty karate or daycare Mc tie-quon-do video clips or go watch some porn.We that enjoy systema don't need to hear it from you bitch bags
Yes truly devestating against a calmy walking partner who lunges once waits for the coming technique with no follow through retract, slash, stab, kick, punch, elbow or headbutt. True knife defence is run! Go for the balls, get in close in a sundden blitz by suprise. But most knife attacks are stealth or a blitz themselves so your stabbed before you realise whats heppening. Dont learn this trife!
Yeah they shoot people with a rifle. This is the assault rifle (battle-rifle/primary weapon whatever) They have bullets in this gun to shoot people from far away. Then they have a sidearm. A pistol as a backup weapon. They then as a final and FINAL resort have a knife. Used in extream situations never for confrontation. When you are using a knife you are out of bullets.
das will Ich auch können. An dem Bauch arbeite ich schon. Ein paar alte Matrazen könnte ich auch noch auftreiben, und der Schimmel in der Halle kommt dann ja wohl von alleine.
You NEVER, EVER grab the knife hand! Basic knife defence! (you'd be asking for a nice longitudinal cut of about 6-8 inches, to the bone, and possibly severing nerves, rendering the grab hand useless, and you dead!)
Question never answered, why does uke keep throwing himself over? Some of the body mechanics you can "feel" and you know that the guy in the purple shirt is intentionally rolling over without being forced to do so.
Yes truly devestating against a calmy walking partner who lunges once waits for the coming technique with no follow through retract, slash, stab, kick, punch, elbow or headbutt. True knife defence is run! Go for the balls, get in close in a sundden blitz by suprise. But most knife attacks are stealth or a blitz themselves so your stabbed before you realise whats heppening. Dont learn this trife!
It doesnt matter how unrealistic a martial art is yet you should stil be able to make it look good in a demo but Systema always looks terrible in every demo.
- You keep saying this when it's you who should be put on the 'bullshit notice board.' Since you have another account name which is 'coldwatch'...and you make out that you're two different users and you even reply to yourself. You fucked up because you FORGOT to change user accounts BEFORE replying to yourself. You're a fake, it finally shows.
Danny6886,Mate,What the hell are you talking abt? Thats it? thats all you can do? creating another account and accuse it as mine? i wouldnt bother to make another account just for the sake of argueing with you, if i did, do u think i would i make it obvious for people to know that im from the UK? Mate,u can do better than that,BULLSHIT ALERT!! BULLSHIT ALERT!!
Since you just want to slander instead of providing substance, I'll say it here like in every other forum you've followed me in: you're blocked. Good day. :)
BULLSHIT ALERT! BULLSIT ALERT!! You've BLOCKED me??? if u've blocked me, why am i here again? oh yeah! because yr full of BULLSHIT!! if people dont care then, then why does it bother you? or is that just another BULLSHIT?!
- Again with the homosexual innuendos, and you say I have a fascination? You take every joke I say seriously.
'they are UNREALISTIC, more like your claim of "experience" to be trained in...'
- You know this...how? Because you say it is? You take yourself way too seriously to think everyone is going to trust you, especially since you have no proof of your 'experience' either.
Once again, the dipshit talks to me and doesn't give proof. I'm sure you're going to live a very simple life deadlines. You keep repeating yourself over and over and you think anyone but me cares enough to reply. It's quite funny in a pathetic sort of way.
Ok, this is the 3rd Systema video I've seen and AGAIN it's totally unrealistic. This is clearly an artform, not at all is it based on reality. Anyone interested in real knife defense, learn CQC or some other military-based style. Systema will get you killed. No sane person would walk around casually and have their guard down while they see someone try to attack them with a knife. Any skilled knife fighter would literally rip these guys a new asshole.
Yes Danny6886, they are UNREALISTIC, more like your claim of "experience" to be trained in unarmed combat at 9, firearm & knife combat at 13, explosive expert at 14 and your affiliation to an IDF instructor & not to mention that u just turned 20. and whats your fascination with "ripping assholes" anyway? u a gay rapist too?
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I doubt you would last 5 secs with Mikhail. Yes its all in slow motion but thats for demonstration and training. If you can go along to a systema seminar and experience a senior instructors hits - dont pay just ask for a demonstration of strikes.
Like *so* many in others in Systema, I have years in some other arts. I spent a good year on the fence, watching some of the DVD's, interacting on the Forum @ Vlad's site. It only took one class to convince me to leave everything else behind. It only took Martin Wheeler a couple of minutes of watching Vlad (Martin was conducting his own Kenpo seminar at the time) to decide to give up his 20 years of Kenpo, BTW.
I have no reason to lie,maybe maybe my instructor wasnt anygood seems to be plenty of them teaching systema,that have no real self defence or fighting experience.
It seems to me the only guys that realy are good systema fighters are the ones with real experience and a grounding in real fighting arts like Sombo,judo,boxing,etc
This is why they are good not because they train in systema.
It does sound like you had a mediocre (at best) instructor, then. Is he a certified instructor? Who was it? I have to disagree with the comment about only cross-trained Systema guys being good, because I've trained with several people who have *only* studied Systema who can take a person apart with ease!
Dude, you're lying! If you'd *ever* been to a class you wouldn't link Systema to Aikido. The only people who say that are trolls who criticize Systema based on watching videos they don't understand! If you'd really been to classes, the first thing you would have mentioned would be BRUISES!
If I can get permission from Vlad, I'll post some footage of him schooling an Aikido guy. The fellow kept sitting out the seminar because he wasn't used to getting hit (that's a huge part of class - taking strikes), so Vlad decided to do some non-striking work with him. It was more amazing than *any* Aikido demonstration I've seen (I practiced Aikido for over 2 years, BTW, as well as many other arts). Vlad's (and Mikhail's) full speed work is MIND BLOWING.
Your ignorance is amazing! For one, Discovery Channel went to Russia as part of their Go! Warrior series and did a special which featured Systema and the man in video, Colonel (of Spetnaz) Mikhail Ryabko. He's definitely the real deal (as is Systema), so do some research before you sound like an idiot next time. Try a class while you're at it and *then* judge.
This is bullshit. Fake. Soviet and Russian army especialy soviet special forces had no relation to this crap. There is Kadochnikov technique but that wasnt cambat training standard. Systema - just money pumping machine.
1. This is a slow-mo demo with a compliant opponent who already knows what is coming to him. What dod you expect?
2. He is "throwing" himself (actually ROLLING) to avoid losing balance and give an opponent an opportunity to finish him off. In Systema- when you fall you try to roll or you are dead.
is this for real? to be honest it looks no more real than aikido or jitsu stuff. give the knife to a 16 year old scrowt and see how many times he can get him
This is just a demonstration! For those who can't grasp the concept of it, this is what it means "the act of presenting something to sight or view"... that's why it's done at a slow speed by both attacker and defender!
Love to read all the comments by people saying this is bullshit... I would love it even more if they actually TRIED going against those who practice this martial art and know what they are doing and THEN say it's "bullshit"! LOL
Spetsop 11 months ago
You do the so called "defend move" as shown in the video against a knife attack you will die for sure, trust me.
bibihang 11 months ago
No, that's not a joke. This vid made by great master of business-do :-)
I'm very ashamed that his russians too....
Nidhegg83 1 year ago
wenn er das bei mir schafft,spendier ich ihm ein bier!
cheneyxxxxx 1 year ago
This vid was made as a joke right?
streetmirage 1 year ago
all those techniques seem to be an open style as in against long knife curves and thrusts.
i wonder what would happen if it was a close quarters knife attack?
bowow0807 1 year ago
@bowow0807 This Guy Is(The Guy With out the shirt) Mikhail's Senor Student.
youtube.com/watch?v=DpzDGV8KfD8
HEadshot00001234 7 months ago
Does not look very convincing.
DudeNumberOnePlus 2 years ago
This is ridiculous
Learn Kali Silat!
DJTazGarcia 2 years ago
@DJTazGarcia
this is indeed shit but kali silat isn't any better you fool. boxing/muay thai/grappling for empty hands, pistols/revolvers for knife defense is the only way. live with it
JaktFibaz 1 year ago
Imagine you're out of ammo. You're in hostile territory and someone is threatning your life. It is extremely useful to have this knowledge.
Nyquirk 1 year ago
lol
JaktFibaz 1 year ago
@JaktFibaz
What? That's absurd. First of, "pistols/revolvers" aren't available everywhere. Knifes are. Also, what happens when you try to box/grapple multiple opponents, or, heavier, BETTER BOXERS, BETTER GRAPPLERS?
Well, you're fucked or you can learn Kali that will teach the usage of improvised weapons as well as blades. And no, having a gun does not mean you're automatically safe from any knife attacker
marcosfenrir 1 year ago
@marcosfenrir
handguns are still your best bet against a knife threat. it's the only way you can deliver deadly force while staying out of the knife's range.
JaktFibaz 1 year ago
@JaktFibaz But I don't have a gun and I know that disarming a knife is almost impossible. What now?
marcosfenrir 1 year ago
@marcosfenrir
Conclude it's best to stay away from dangerous places and live a quiet and happy life. It's the best thing to do really.
JaktFibaz 1 year ago
@JaktFibaz Sure, that's the whole idea of self defense. But anyway, that's not always possible. Would you think someone fucking someone else's wife is in a dangerous place?
marcosfenrir 1 year ago
@marcosfenrir
yes and if he gets shot he had it coming
JaktFibaz 1 year ago
@JaktFibaz
Actually he was stabbed.
marcosfenrir 1 year ago
@marcosfenrir
oh you're talking about something that actually happened, I thought you were talking about a hypothetical situation. yes, that's a tragedy, but I think we can all agree you shouldn't be fucking someone's wife.
JaktFibaz 1 year ago
WAT
salamirterra 2 years ago
Dude,pro is a pro.Amateur can never win over some1 with elite training.Morever fact he kicked your ass may mean hes a good warrior,not that his style is superior.Most veterans r capable to do the same.There is no BEST style,good warrior should adapt various techs for purposose of winning.Counter also uses kinetic energy of opponent but many throws won't work when fighting opponent who isnt dumb enough to bull-charge u.Dunno if systemas good,but whats shown here is just laugh
Caiman7 2 years ago
I do believe that the SPETSNAZ, Israeli Mossad, and US SPECOPS have the best hand to hand training in the world......besides maybe the Soth Korean 707th Special missions Brigade (white tigers)
ITF91 2 years ago
This is severe failure. I would rate Aikido on a higher tier for street fights than this bullshit. If you're looking for some real and practical self defense look into Krav Maga.
Fukkensaved 2 years ago
Bullshit? This is bullshit? I don´t know any martia art where the movements are that precise and smooth, without loosing any more energy than is needed. this IS the best of the best. Used by Russian Special forces. And your Aikido? used by who?
Robbe19 2 years ago
I don't advocate Aikido. It's also an unusable martial art in realistic fighting situations. Aikido, like this, will get you killed.
Fukkensaved 2 years ago
Yep, bullshit. He's just patting the guy and he's rolling. They're just putting on a show. Movements are smooth but slow, powerless and resisting oponent won't feel pain or much less be thrown. Special forces? Could be, but israeli soldiers learn more advanced (n brutal) style of Krav maga than civils. I seriously doubt this crap can be useful.
Caiman7 2 years ago
It is being used by elite Russian Special Forces (Spetsnaz). Although I expect you to write now something like: " Russian Special Forces are shit, Israeli and American SF rule!" I still want you to understand, that if this was useless, the Russian SF would not use it in any way. Brutal? That´s good for movies. Systema is meant to bring an enemy on the ground, by using a minimum of energy. If you have several enemies and 25kg of stuff carrying with you, THIS COUNTS MORE THAN BRUTALITY!
Robbe19 2 years ago
Nope,but SF do not use only 1style and they might not use same techs as shown here.Minimum energy works only when applied on pressure points or levers.This here could work only when you know where hit is gonna land wchich doesn't happen in reality.Look at his student,he's just playing along!When facing multiple enemies you leave yourself wide open when using throws.Not to mention this knife defense is ridiculous,it requires reflexes.Your oponent WILL use brutal force,your hand will be swept away
Caiman7 2 years ago
Damn man, this video is a training session, ment for TRAINING. Your Israeli Soldiers, which you´ve mentioned don´t beat each other half to death in training as well. If he would fulfill this movements in real speed, no one could see, how this all works, plus, he would most likely harm his student, cause Systema is not a sport or something, but is a military martial art. And Systema IS being used by the Russian SF. It is not as easy to learn, as it is to be "brutal", but is is more effective.
Robbe19 2 years ago
systema isn't exclusive 1 n only Rus SF use.Besides there r too many unnecesary movements.I'm not saying SF don't use it, it's just that techs shown here will get u killed.Before something like that could be applied you'd get stabbed couple of times.I trained krav maga,ai kido and boxing,althou I'm not an expert it's gotten easy to distinguish good techniques.ALL styles R BRUTAL and ALL are military arts.Effective=finish the fight asap and efficiently.Punch is ALWAYS faster n easier than throw
Caiman7 2 years ago
Punch is more effective than throw?? Systema is meant to use the cinetic energy of the person, who attacks you against him. So brutal attacks are absolutely useless against a systema pro. I was training for one week in Berlin with an Ex- GRU- Spetsnaz Coach. Before that, I was doing Kickboxing for 5 years, and Mai Tai for 1 Year. At the first day, he told me: Hit me, how ever you want me to. I didn´t even recognize how I got on the Ground. Systema IS the best.
Robbe19 2 years ago
You won´t believe it, until you yctualy fight against an Ex- Spetsnaz who uses Systema. Try to beat him whatever way you like. I give you my word, you won´t even be able give him 1 single punch.
Robbe19 2 years ago
And one of his, even when it seems light or you think you're prepared It will drop the toughest fighters in the world.
Nyquirk 1 year ago
i think you're pretty much right. If you see this knife defense and take for example escrima (wich has great knife fighting) you will see the difference.
hush181 2 years ago
not even krav maga can save you from a knife decent attack
NKassad 2 years ago
Not one single feint???
warrendehaven 2 years ago
100% pure junk that will only get you kill try this if your willing to end your life ,il pray for you
ralphy11220 2 years ago
completely agree
lmNotReal 2 years ago
By his belly, it seems this Systema scam is working quite well.
agent7788 2 years ago
try doing this on nonstudents and then tell his to try his best to resist the moves then we will see how this works
flufinuf 3 years ago 6
ah yes that old chestnut were the students have to much respect/fear of their instructors.
humewood1 2 years ago
Great piece of work! Even responding to simplified although improvised attack he does not accelerate but pinpoints force application to weaken attackers dynamics. This is sniping not artillery. Both will do the job but at different cost.
KamaZsUtra 3 years ago
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LOL...... fuck that fat fucker, and Fuck you too Smoki ganster wannabe loudmouth motherfucker. How about you and I roll, so I can bash your skull in on the curb??
2FISTS4YERFACE 3 years ago
I must say that that gym needs decorating and some new mats, good vid but I did see it 11 years ago.still good though
gekiryudojo 3 years ago
no one gives a fuck about your record store you hip-hop homo, shut the fuck up.... you aint getting much "training" by makin records. I fight semi-pro with a 8-2-0 record and I am saying that SYSTEMA SUCKS too. Internet pussy loudmouth
2FISTS4YERFACE 3 years ago
Say that to Ryabko's face and get laid out like a semi-pro bitch.
SmokiSounds 3 years ago
Indeed pitbulls. that is correct. Systema is not taught in Russian military.That is marketing propaganda. Sambo is the Russian military science and it works. It still amazes me how many people fall for this Systema "jedi mind control " nonsense.
They preach all this mind/body control yet a large proportion of its instructors are fat, out of shape frauds (like this video). True martial artists and fighters understand how important conditioning and exercise are. AND SO DOES THE MILITARY. get real
2FISTS4YERFACE 3 years ago 2
During Desert Storm the unit i was assigned to was piggybacking in a commandeered pakistani work camp with a russian paratroop infantry platoon. They even said from their own mouthes that systema was crap. Russian military trains in Sambo, not Systema.
2Pitbulls8MyKilt 3 years ago
ive been to moscow. I have plenty of "knowledge" about it. In early nineties one of my ju-jitsu instructors began training in systema because he thought ( due to its marketing) that is was a military combatives science. He stopped training in it because every seminar he went to (including russia) was full of fantasy brainwashed students that had no technical skill in fighting, just in fraud ass energy shit.
2Pitbulls8MyKilt 3 years ago
Pot smokin, brain dead eurotrash.
2Pitbulls8MyKilt 3 years ago
My dead brain runs a record label and 2 music stores.
Now please, take your jiu-jitsu, your ex-army and your 8 miles every two days, and bring it in front of Vasiliev or Ryabko - then, and only then, you feel free to come and comment some bullshit. Ft. Bragg lmfao...Those guys must've been a couple punks.
SmokiSounds 3 years ago
Um dos vídeos mais mentirosos que já ví, o gordinho parece que faz carinho do magrelo e ele já se joga no chão !?!? Se colocar esse bolo fofo em uma cituação real ele já era... Nossa; como tem charlatão nesse mundo.
pontes666 3 years ago
is this some sort of hypnosis with pressure strikes or something????
156769 3 years ago
in addition, drinking a half gallon of potato vodka, and taking off your shirt doesnt make you a knife combatives expert.
2Pitbulls8MyKilt 3 years ago 2
lmfao you shitting cholesterol yet, uncle sam? you wouldn't last a MINUTE against ANY of Systema professionals. now, go have a walk.
SmokiSounds 3 years ago
anytime you wanna come to the US and find out douchebag your more than welcome... i am a jiu-jitsu black belt and fight muay thai. I have trained with and against systema guys at Ft.Bragg. Their shit is all theory. you pressure their methods with skill and it falls apart, like aikido. You wanna make Aikido technique fail? RESIST and fight back. THe same with systema.. As far as the cholesterol thing, you ignorant cocksucker, i run 8 miles every two days and fight heavyweight, and am ex Army.
2Pitbulls8MyKilt 3 years ago
The fuck I'd wanna come US for? You're the one coming talking trash about something you have no knowledge on, so why don't you take your ass to Russia and fight Vasiliev or Ryabko.
SmokiSounds 3 years ago
Dont waste your breath on the sorry guy, he must be very lonely , pity him,
gekiryudojo 3 years ago 3
hey there russian master of knife dancing. you wanna quick lesson in knife combatives. try that weak defense against a shanker in an american prison. Folsom would teach you real quick just how ineffective systema is.
2Pitbulls8MyKilt 3 years ago
I wonder what would happen if the guy was actually trying to kill him
thepianoman132 3 years ago
attacker would get maimed or killed with his own knife
D4RKW4RL0CK 3 years ago
this is stupid its playing with your life please before any one say any thing and with all respect to all Russian ppl look for this video its called >> Paul Vunak Knife Philosophy . and you will know what i am talking about !!
sargon08 3 years ago
^*sighs*
*shakes head in dissappointment*
iNSaNeVodka 3 years ago 2
check out frans stroeven
samurai184 3 years ago
This is silly. It will get you killed.
chairde 3 years ago
systema has the closest feeling of combat I have had since i have been back from the sand box nothing like the fear of death to bring you back and make you fill alive.Reminds of that famous Spec ops saying."you have never lived until you nearly have died. and for those who have ,freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.That is why Ilove training in systema so much its not the from of training in my day too day ops but its a big one
nightstalkersasslt 4 years ago
No one attacks this telegraphically or as slow and if the feeder had employed fakes the defender would be dead.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago 2
if you think systema is worthless crap then go to toranto to the north american headquarters of systema and wait till val vasiliev the cofounder leaves and attack him. people who talk smack about what they dont totally understand are the worst kind of idiots.
whortty6 4 years ago
I train systema and had the privilege to train with mikhail and the guy is amazing, he his very fluid and unpredictable he commands the situation always and has no form he is like a puppet master. A sign of a master make things look so easy.
stab987 4 years ago
tai is one of the best styles it uses your own force against u..its slow is so u can grasp the art fool...
Trewstory189B 4 years ago
He's amazing,
i wish i had Russian skills-Systema.
chapeauetbarbe 4 years ago
Ive been to Systema classes and i thought it was crap,the exercises were pointless,slow motion moving teaches nothing,plus i found most of the people that stick with Systema are from a Tai Chi background.
So anything after would seem realistic to them.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
Hey dudes!!!!!! i just found a good knife techniques,....open the "filipino combat knife fighting" in the youtube!!!!!
paningkoy 4 years ago
tai jitsu does that slow motion rubbish too
toptop90 4 years ago
Heheheheee.....yeah sure....
perten 4 years ago
i bet all this "expert-fighters" who give this "expert-comments" never had any live experience with systema. talking is cheap- go and practice, maybe than you will understand a little more.
@blackbelt leroy- combat sambo comes from the same source as systema- cossack traditions.
bigfatnoisemaker 4 years ago
this sucks..
if i do that i will finish in
five parts
Vethoven2 4 years ago
Tris10, your expertise must originate from hours of Call Of Duty and Street Fighter.
Real experts don't spend their time on youtube. Instead they do things they are good at, and don't need to prove themselves.
Gemyxaman 4 years ago
clowns
zhulichan 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I cant understand why people make comparisons between Systema and Krav Maga.
Krav Maga is reality and Systema is fantasy.
Krav Maga is good for the streets and Systema is good for a fight scene in a comedy.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
Judging by some of the comments, the authors are just wasting time watching videos and never train. You guys might aswell give up.
In case you misinterpreted the video - this is not a training manual, it's just a demonstration of dynamics and force application. Watch the Takemusu Aiki, and you will see exactly the same thing. In fact, I would double dare you to take on the Aikido creator and try your "reality" bullshit.
Gemyxaman 4 years ago
Why would Spetznaz give up learning a very effective fighting system like Combat Sambo to learn this Systema crap?
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
о да это Рябко молодой!
Pokemonzza 4 years ago
all you bitch bags that are non believers of Systema, go watch your kitty karate or daycare Mc tie-quon-do video clips or go watch some porn.We that enjoy systema don't need to hear it from you bitch bags
eddiedaskull 4 years ago 2
Amen Brother - Systema is "The System" the system that uses real time battle to teach.
The true Martial art of Time.
00WhiteAces00 4 years ago 2
oh a systema guy,cool thanks for support.There is just a handfull of us but it is better that way.contact me anytime brother
eddiedaskull 4 years ago
Yes truly devestating against a calmy walking partner who lunges once waits for the coming technique with no follow through retract, slash, stab, kick, punch, elbow or headbutt. True knife defence is run! Go for the balls, get in close in a sundden blitz by suprise. But most knife attacks are stealth or a blitz themselves so your stabbed before you realise whats heppening. Dont learn this trife!
Tris10 4 years ago
Anyone with common sense can see this is crap.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
you don t know nothing about russian spetznaz, my friend
pppestaloti 4 years ago
Yeah they shoot people with a rifle. This is the assault rifle (battle-rifle/primary weapon whatever) They have bullets in this gun to shoot people from far away. Then they have a sidearm. A pistol as a backup weapon. They then as a final and FINAL resort have a knife. Used in extream situations never for confrontation. When you are using a knife you are out of bullets.
Tris10 4 years ago
Just read my comment bellow this knife "defence" is suicide. This particular video. It should be used for mental preperation and drills only.
Tris10 4 years ago
Was Ryabko ever in shape?
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
Heh, I've never seen young Mikhail Ryabko. It must be from early 80s video :) He's great as usual.
isamolet 4 years ago
to become a master in this style you need:
an opponent who isnt trying to kill you at all but is in fact, intent on rolling around on the floor instead.
a huge, fat, pig-like physique
delusion
ridgewells 4 years ago
LOL...totally. Want to know knife fighting/defense? Learn Escrima. Want to learn how to get stabbed? Learn this crap.
Wonko101 4 years ago
Very good....for kids.
majstor236 4 years ago
Hi Amaury,
das will Ich auch können. An dem Bauch arbeite ich schon. Ein paar alte Matrazen könnte ich auch noch auftreiben, und der Schimmel in der Halle kommt dann ja wohl von alleine.
JustinTed 4 years ago
You NEVER, EVER grab the knife hand! Basic knife defence! (you'd be asking for a nice longitudinal cut of about 6-8 inches, to the bone, and possibly severing nerves, rendering the grab hand useless, and you dead!)
bcfsl 4 years ago
Question never answered, why does uke keep throwing himself over? Some of the body mechanics you can "feel" and you know that the guy in the purple shirt is intentionally rolling over without being forced to do so.
airish571 4 years ago
looks like a fat useless pig
boscojosh 4 years ago
People making other people flip over should set off your bullshit meter...
istya 4 years ago
MOST OF IT HERE IS BULLSHIT
corvy71 4 years ago
non believe.ha ha keep being a non believer
eddiedaskull 4 years ago
Yes truly devestating against a calmy walking partner who lunges once waits for the coming technique with no follow through retract, slash, stab, kick, punch, elbow or headbutt. True knife defence is run! Go for the balls, get in close in a sundden blitz by suprise. But most knife attacks are stealth or a blitz themselves so your stabbed before you realise whats heppening. Dont learn this trife!
Tris10 4 years ago
Anything your mom does will be brought to your bedroom. :)
Danny6886 4 years ago
Anything you say will be brought here: How to Break Free From A Choke Hold - Ridge arm over.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Anything your mom says will be brought here: How to Break Free From A Choke Hold - Ridge arm over.
RiseToHonor700 4 years ago
Anything you say will be brought here: How to Break Free From A Choke Hold - Ridge arm over.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Danny6886, Anything YOU say is BULLSHIT
deadlines 4 years ago
Anything you say will be brought here: How to Break Free From A Choke Hold - Ridge arm over.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Why? so that yr friend can delete my posts and keep yrs? BULLSHIT ALERT
deadlines 4 years ago
It doesnt matter how unrealistic a martial art is yet you should stil be able to make it look good in a demo but Systema always looks terrible in every demo.
drgmch 4 years ago
Deadlines, enough with the trolling, come to this thread: How to Break Free From A Choke Hold - Ridge arm over
It'll be settled here, unless you enjoy flooding people's videos with stupid internet fights.
Danny6886 4 years ago
'BULLSHIT ALERT!'
- You keep saying this when it's you who should be put on the 'bullshit notice board.' Since you have another account name which is 'coldwatch'...and you make out that you're two different users and you even reply to yourself. You fucked up because you FORGOT to change user accounts BEFORE replying to yourself. You're a fake, it finally shows.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Danny6886,Mate,What the hell are you talking abt? Thats it? thats all you can do? creating another account and accuse it as mine? i wouldnt bother to make another account just for the sake of argueing with you, if i did, do u think i would i make it obvious for people to know that im from the UK? Mate,u can do better than that,BULLSHIT ALERT!! BULLSHIT ALERT!!
deadlines 4 years ago
I didn't realize, I thought blocking someone meant that you no longer can read their messages. I'm a new member so I didn't know until now.
' if people dont care then, then why does it bother you?'
- I meant OTHER people BESIDES me that care enough to reply.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Since you just want to slander instead of providing substance, I'll say it here like in every other forum you've followed me in: you're blocked. Good day. :)
Danny6886 4 years ago
BULLSHIT ALERT! BULLSIT ALERT!! You've BLOCKED me??? if u've blocked me, why am i here again? oh yeah! because yr full of BULLSHIT!! if people dont care then, then why does it bother you? or is that just another BULLSHIT?!
deadlines 4 years ago
'u a gay rapist too?'
- Again with the homosexual innuendos, and you say I have a fascination? You take every joke I say seriously.
'they are UNREALISTIC, more like your claim of "experience" to be trained in...'
- You know this...how? Because you say it is? You take yourself way too seriously to think everyone is going to trust you, especially since you have no proof of your 'experience' either.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Once again, the dipshit talks to me and doesn't give proof. I'm sure you're going to live a very simple life deadlines. You keep repeating yourself over and over and you think anyone but me cares enough to reply. It's quite funny in a pathetic sort of way.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Ok, this is the 3rd Systema video I've seen and AGAIN it's totally unrealistic. This is clearly an artform, not at all is it based on reality. Anyone interested in real knife defense, learn CQC or some other military-based style. Systema will get you killed. No sane person would walk around casually and have their guard down while they see someone try to attack them with a knife. Any skilled knife fighter would literally rip these guys a new asshole.
Danny6886 4 years ago
Yes Danny6886, they are UNREALISTIC, more like your claim of "experience" to be trained in unarmed combat at 9, firearm & knife combat at 13, explosive expert at 14 and your affiliation to an IDF instructor & not to mention that u just turned 20. and whats your fascination with "ripping assholes" anyway? u a gay rapist too?
deadlines 4 years ago
HAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHHAHHAHHAHHAHH i would knock out this chuby guy,, y would i need a knife? hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahah i almost fell asleep.. no please use those beds to fall asleep on..
renatoruso 4 years ago
I doubt you would last 5 secs with Mikhail. Yes its all in slow motion but thats for demonstration and training. If you can go along to a systema seminar and experience a senior instructors hits - dont pay just ask for a demonstration of strikes.
whish01 4 years ago
StopMoColorado,
I dont want to mention any instructors name it wouldnt be right,but it was two uk instructors.
I want to believe that Systema is unique and very efective but i wasnt left impressed with the two Systema schools i went to.
Maybe i should go to a seminar maybe change my mind.
drgmch 4 years ago
Like *so* many in others in Systema, I have years in some other arts. I spent a good year on the fence, watching some of the DVD's, interacting on the Forum @ Vlad's site. It only took one class to convince me to leave everything else behind. It only took Martin Wheeler a couple of minutes of watching Vlad (Martin was conducting his own Kenpo seminar at the time) to decide to give up his 20 years of Kenpo, BTW.
StopMoColorado 4 years ago
I have no reason to lie,maybe maybe my instructor wasnt anygood seems to be plenty of them teaching systema,that have no real self defence or fighting experience.
It seems to me the only guys that realy are good systema fighters are the ones with real experience and a grounding in real fighting arts like Sombo,judo,boxing,etc
This is why they are good not because they train in systema.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
BBLeroyJones,
It does sound like you had a mediocre (at best) instructor, then. Is he a certified instructor? Who was it? I have to disagree with the comment about only cross-trained Systema guys being good, because I've trained with several people who have *only* studied Systema who can take a person apart with ease!
StopMoColorado 4 years ago
ive been to systema classes and it really is as crap as it looks on here.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
BlackBeltLeroyJones,
Dude, you're lying! If you'd *ever* been to a class you wouldn't link Systema to Aikido. The only people who say that are trolls who criticize Systema based on watching videos they don't understand! If you'd really been to classes, the first thing you would have mentioned would be BRUISES!
StopMoColorado 4 years ago
this is just aikido shit.
BlackBeltLeroyJones 4 years ago
If I can get permission from Vlad, I'll post some footage of him schooling an Aikido guy. The fellow kept sitting out the seminar because he wasn't used to getting hit (that's a huge part of class - taking strikes), so Vlad decided to do some non-striking work with him. It was more amazing than *any* Aikido demonstration I've seen (I practiced Aikido for over 2 years, BTW, as well as many other arts). Vlad's (and Mikhail's) full speed work is MIND BLOWING.
StopMoColorado 4 years ago
philin2007 and others,
Your ignorance is amazing! For one, Discovery Channel went to Russia as part of their Go! Warrior series and did a special which featured Systema and the man in video, Colonel (of Spetnaz) Mikhail Ryabko. He's definitely the real deal (as is Systema), so do some research before you sound like an idiot next time. Try a class while you're at it and *then* judge.
StopMoColorado 4 years ago 3
This is bullshit. Fake. Soviet and Russian army especialy soviet special forces had no relation to this crap. There is Kadochnikov technique but that wasnt cambat training standard. Systema - just money pumping machine.
philin2007 4 years ago
it is shame to see how slow all those attack are!never try it in fast attack!
supralee 4 years ago
on the posting it said rare. they mean rear that this shit would work. come on team read between the lines
todd1400 5 years ago
Its totally unrealistic.
MIKECROMFORD 5 years ago
Why is the guy in the blue t shirt throwing himself on the floor?
MIKECROMFORD 5 years ago
1. This is a slow-mo demo with a compliant opponent who already knows what is coming to him. What dod you expect?
2. He is "throwing" himself (actually ROLLING) to avoid losing balance and give an opponent an opportunity to finish him off. In Systema- when you fall you try to roll or you are dead.
TheBishopSSR 5 years ago
Why do systema keep adding these ridiculous clips to youtube.
MIKECROMFORD 5 years ago
BULLSHIT
PRIMALCORE 5 years ago
a nice cooperative uke...in the real world none of this crap would work!
MarcElliott 5 years ago
what the fuck is it?
kagadaDeH 5 years ago
LOL ROFL this is fun!
Beatwolf 5 years ago
this is absaloutly stupid if that guy had a knife you would have been dead 2minutes and 50 seconds ago ha ha you are all just plain stupid
mc3227 5 years ago
hahaha... lol... give me the knife! this is the
fucking stupid in blue Tshirt. he'll kill him self without help))))
zubo55555 5 years ago
is this for real? to be honest it looks no more real than aikido or jitsu stuff. give the knife to a 16 year old scrowt and see how many times he can get him
shishi99 5 years ago
The attacker rolls over more easy then he would if it was for real. I don't belive in this crap. ;P
challq 5 years ago
Lexsuncion this is only a training to demostrate how to keep opposant out of balance.
believe me,i tried it several times with Vadim Starov, when these skills are applied in dynamic they are lethals
marcosaldi75 5 years ago
*shakes head* no not impressed...sorry Mr. Russian guys.
Lexsuncion 5 years ago