God I hate when parents come out and want to blame everyone but their addict children. It's like the Mom who thinks every other kid is bad when their kid gets in trouble. How about blaming your parenting.
I saw Sober House in the 2 seasons it was on. It seems they give their clients TOO much freedom while there. Because a few of those celebs, when they go there, they go back to the clubs/bars and get what they can. I think that place is too lenient on their clients rehab.
Dr. Drew actually insists that marijuana be legalized. With that said, you're misinterpreting his words. @TheM9Beretta "...or smoke a joint every now & then u are an addict."
You know, although I do admire Dr. Drew for his intelligence, I think you may be onto something. -- @ForDoverUSA "he may know some shit about addiction, but he's more an actor than anything. Very good one."
God! Fox news screws everything up. It seems like anyone or anything thats good in life fox news is standing right there to counter it with some bullshit lies. Doctor drew wasn't the cause of these peoples deaths, obviously it was the crappy hospital that they were in, so........... wouldn't it make more sense to go after the hospital for its shitty medical care instead???
@chrishasaclue Fox is like a lot of different media outlets. They say whatever they think will attract more people to pay attention.They also don't realize that not all of their viewers actually fall for their lies. Sadly, however, people like us who see how ignorant media outlets like Fox are have been outnumbered hundreds of times over by people who think whatever Fox says is informative and dependable.
I am sorry for the parents' sorrow but with all due respect, their kids were addicts and that lifestyle's risks are extreme. The parents can point their fingers at Drew and the hospital but in reality the issue begins and ends with the addict and those who supported their lifestyles, prior to treatment. Its always far too easy to blame someone else when true heartbreak is authored by a loved one. These parents need to accept that their addicted children were the sole reason for the loss.
If it's FOX and Geraldo, I feel disappointed that this story is probably blown out of proportion or something that doesn't directly involve him personally (i.e some fuckhead orderly that neglects patients/overloads the perscriptions).
simple there not celebs so why should dr drew care.he gets paid twice as much doing the tv show than at the hospital he works at so who would you pay more attention to.a nobody with a drug habit or a celeb with the same thing who is on a show
Las Encinas is a 1st rate hospital, I have been through their program several times and finally got sober there. Every hospital that treats these kind of patients has some small percentage of people that die, in the process of getting clean and sober. I knew all of the people who died there, from the meetings that are held on the grounds and being in L.E. with them. Two were freak medication reactions, one a suicide and the other brought his own drugs into the hospital. Fox News=Ridiculous.
They are saying they went to him because of his famous medical care. This means that the only reason they are talking shit about him on TV is because he's famous. In any other case they wouldn't be holding the doctor responsible.
Dr.Drew is NOT in any way, shape, or form responsible 4 this. He has helped save the lives (directly and indirectly) of 10s of thousands of ppl,simply by shedding light (to millions of ppl across the US) on the severity of addiction n its fatal consequences. 4that alone, DrDrew should b greatly respected n appreciated. If i sent my kid2rehab, i would def send em 2the safest, best place. Addiction is horrible, Ive seen it all. My condolences to the families who lost sum1
Alot of these kind of places pray on people in their weakest times. its really sad but their are alot of people and places that really do try and help. Dont let this stop you from getting help its not all like this. And BTW its not allways their fault, and its not drews fault dr drew is a amazing man and does nothing but try and help people.
Dr drew is a hypocrite. He pretends to go the extra mile for the celebrity addicts on his stupid tv show, but in REALITY his employees don't even monitor his patients at las encinas hospital and three deaths ensued. How would you feel about "celebrity rehab" if you lost someone at his facility and the government reported that the nurses didn't even check on them but said they did? Then he has the nerve to go on tv and proclaim to Rachel uchetel that he and his staff will do anything it takes to
Just because Dr. Drew works in a wing of the hospital his child died at doesn't mean Dr. Drew is responsible. No where do they ever say that the deceased were patients of his. This is some retarded bullshit angle used by angry people who want a scapegoat for their big story.
wow this is absolutely crazy....i feel sorry that these people lost their children but how can they drag dr drew into it unless he was personally monitoring their cases. I get the feeling that these people are looking at dollar signs.....
Dr. Drew being blamed because he's famous? This happens EVERYWHERE. Just because a "celebrity" is involved, doesn't mean he's anymore to blame than any other medical directer that has had a patient die.
Billion dollar a year treament "industry". Federal Govt. statistics state a 1 in 30 success rate for treatment centers, they the " treatment centers will tell you 1 in 12. If the medical field had a failure rate of 29 out of 30 they would be crusified by the judicial system, congress and the health insurance companys!!!
Drs and there staff are not Gods . Parents that have dead children look for someone to blame . People die in every hospital . When I had a child someone in the hospital stole my medicine but you do not shut the whole hospital . Look when it comes down to it I am sorry but your child started the problem , your child was an addict people die from that and he was an adult and the resposibilty for his actions was his .
I've been listening to Drew since I was a child and he is like a father figure to me. I really believe anyone criticizing him really doesn't know him very well.
From my understanding Drew has dropped his association with this place.
Dont do hard drugs! You could die! Im sick of society enabling drug addiction by pampering and excusing people who are making bad decisions. How many junkies and OD's do you need to see to realize that this will be you if you mess with hard drugs (opiates, cocaine, amphetamine based, prescription meds)? I dont think addiction is a disease. Its a self inflicted condition. dont blame other people for the poor choices of somebody else or poor choices of your own.
i h8 dr. drew he thinks if u drink beer on the weekends or smoke a joint every now & then u are an addict hes got people thinkn addiction is a disease its not a disease thats just another excuse
People just think they can drop they loved ones off to be "fixed." You need to educate yourselves about their needs. ie. does detox from drugXYZ require 24/7 observation? Las Encimas is not 24/7 observation. Also an affliation with the place does not make a Doctor or therapist instantly responsible for ANOTHER professionals actions. If the nurse was not doing their job t/are responsible and t/addict is responsible for continuing drug use despite the known risk of death.
That's funny because I went to that hospital Las Encinas and I was billed by Dr. Pinsky and my medical record had my doctor of record as Dr. Pinsky and I saw him ZERO times - he too busy being a reality ACTOR - he took a Drug & alcohal certification course - I think it's an 8 week course but he's a family doctor M.D. and Internist - he has made this whole MASTER of Addiction thing a joke and YES - when you are the medical director of a hospital - You are FULLY responsible for nursing.
According to people that actually know the doctor, such as Adam Carolla, Drew is one of the most compassionate, kind-hearted, out-reaching, generous people in the world. I listened to Loveline for many years, read a few of his books, and got the same impression.
These people deserve to be angry, but to blame Dr. Drew for their sons' deaths is vindictive and unnecessary.
The American public sue doctors like crazy... they are presumed innocent until and unless a court says differently... If a doctor explains guidelines to a 'patient', and the they don't follow them, the doctor isn't liable.
I doubt very much Dr. Drew would be putting so much of his shows on television if he energy would be better spent doing legal matters.
Wow this is pathetic. It's like saying you can't show COPS on tv cause what you see is gona make you think that cops is gona rescue you wherever you are.
I think the show has made more people see what hell drugusers go trough.
Why not talk about the thousands of lifes this place has changed.
And they are blaming Dr. Drew that this kid died there like he not would have died at another treatment place
I went to las encinas and it was a great hospital detox was good living was good and he spoke every thursday night and was the most knowloedgable person i have ever met in the field of addiction
These asshole's blaming Dr. Drew are stupid.......everyone is responsible for their own addictions. I am an addict and know these stupid parents are just grieving and looking for someone to blame. People can get clean at homeless shelters if they go to A.A.....these rich assholes are spoiled.
That's a crock of shit to say.. 'these reality shows have consequences'. I'm an alky and I did it !!! Medical doctors along with ALL the counsellors on the planet won't stop the alky who intends to drink. These people are transferring their anger for their loved ones onto Pinsky as a way of processing their grief with less shame. Statistically most addicted people die or go insane. More will die at this & every other treatment centre on the planet. Sorry for your losses.. but ..Get real.
I doubt the celebs could handle any rehab treatment facility that every day people have to go through. I saw the episode where they bitched about having to work, and thought they were above it. They wouldn't have dared to pull that in a nonprofit rehab. The other people in the house would come down on them so hard they'd pee their silk ruffled britches.Except maybe Rodman and even he'd know not to piss off a bunch of excons , street drug fiends going through it. Blind folded and beat.
case of medical negligence/malpractice. Were ALL 3 patients who died even admitted to Department of Chemical Dependency Services? It is completely false that medical directors are responsible for nursing care given, even within their own department. If I were Dr. Pinsky I would have my lawyers all over this video for attempting a totally erroneous connection between Dr. Pinsky and the tragic death of these patients. What a horrible thing to be accused of. Many suits are brought against hospitals
What does it tell you that Dr. Drew decided not to put his "lawyers all over this" and instead opted to remove his support and affiliation with this hospital? His actions show that he agrees this is a horrible hospital.
@ktchico Nevertheless, he has a possible case of lible. Fox News and Geraldo Rivera seem to be painting his name over a hospital to which he was only affiliated with. It wasn't as though he was directly connected to the death of these young men.
@ktchico your point is valid, but that STILL doesn't mean this segment should've gone as far as it did in tying him to those deaths! for geraldo to say IN THESE WORDS that those kids died because of dr drew is outrageous!
@j1cjoli You couldn't be more wrong. Directors are responsible for the care given to patients. You should be ashamed of yourself. Take your filth elsewhere.
is responsible for what happened to these two patients, which is not described for us to decide what has actually happened was indeed an act of neglect etc on the part of the hospital. I am very sorry for the parents of these two patients, however, basing your decision of choosing an inpatient facility simply because you see Dr. Drew on TV is a poor choice. In addition, how is this 1) related to Sober House in any substantial way? and 2) a scandal? This sounds like what may POSSIBLY be a tragic
I created an account for no other reason than to post a comment on this ridiculous video. What an example of the media at its worst. 1) It is NOT Drew Pinsky's Hospital. He is only a CO-director of ONE of the specialties of medicine. This does not make him responsible for the nursing care given whatsoever, nor does it mean he supports a poor hospital. His position as a co-director merely means he contributes to the decisions of MEDICAL organization within the program. This does not mean he
This isn't the home that is featured on Celeb Rehab. Las Encinas is a rehab hospital that is nearby in Pasadena. Dr. Drew had been affiliated with Las Encinas for 19 years, but after he realized how horribly this place was being run, he finally severed ties with Las Encinas.
@ktchico what sense does that make? you've been a director at a facility FOR 19 YEARS, just when the heat is on about your facility you pull out????? sounds like some other shit is NOT being stated here. there is more behind the veil people.
As a recovering addict I have been concerned with Pinsky's refusal to ween people off of especially dangerous drugs like benzo-diazepine[valium].Mindy McCready had a seizure on TV!Cold turkey isn't necessarily the best route.peace[love DR DREW by the way!!!]
Where did you hear he doesn't ween people off of benzo's? He doesn't ween off of Opiates... Benzos are not Opiates... Benzodiazepine meds can cause seizures if you ween off of them or not.
I call bullshit. Just because Drew is famous doesn't mean he's a miracle worker. Guess what? We have free will, even as patients. Guess what drug addicts unfortunately do sometimes? They die. If you listened to Loveline, the talk show Dr. Drew records for two hours five nights a week, you'd get a glimpse of how personally he gets involved with his patients' recoveries & how much he feels their pain. Slander. These trolls are looking for their 15 minutes. People are lucky to be under his care.
Trust me, no one in these families wants to be famous because their loved ones died. And we all understand the dangers of addiction. The problem is that with Dr. Drew's name attached to Las Encinas, people think they will get the kind of care Dr. Drew is famous for - competent, kind and careful. Fortunately, Dr. Drew has severed his ties with Las Encinas and can now care for people in a qualified, safe hospital. (LA Times and AOL have both covered this story.)
Civil lawsuits work so that chase a culpable party that may be held liable for damages, and not to chase the actual person(s) responsible. So because Dr Drew is the largest target with big money, they want to grab headlines by going after him. He is not directly responsible for a case he didn't personally handle.
Besides, this is what insurance lawyers are for, to negotiate the settlement. Dr Drew isn't going to go anywhere near this.
Threadysparrow and Separatiist have it right on. Being a recovering hospitalized addict myself; I say Kudos to especially threadysparrow. People are just retarded if they thing Dr. Drew is responsible. Recovery is no walk in the park, and unless you have been in the exact same recovery center at the same time, no one knows what the circumstances were. Based just off of logic- What would be in it for him just to neglect patients? <-- complete retardism! A plague on all your houses who disagree!
Congratulations on your recovery. Thank goodness you went to a hospital where you were carefully monitored and properly medicated. Now that Dr. Drew has severed his ties with Las Encinas (following several deaths, patient rapes, suicides and escapes) he can now concentrate on helping people at a qualified institution. And, hopefully, once people see he's no longer endorsing Las Encinas, they'll avoid it and seek help at a safe place, like you did. Good luck with your sobriety - stay strong.
Dr Drew I cant believe people even take him seriously.... Everything about him is HORRIBLE, I stopped watching his show because I feel hes exploiting addicts, You cant help someone properly with all those cameras around. Guy is a scumbag, The few times Ive watched his show I have seen 2 of his 'patients' have seizures which should of never of happen bc he legally should of weened them off of xanax instead of his cold turkey, Hes a scumbucket.
scapegoat much..What a joke this is a fabricated story. Drg addicts die because they are drug addicts. In what way was it the hospitals faukt?? And how is it Dr drews fault. And what does it have to do with the realit show?? Iam not following. These people are just trying to find someone with money to put a law suit on period end of story.
Oh really! My nephew was dead for what ...12 -15 hours...despite the order to Dr. Drew's staff to check on him every 15 minutes! I guess they mistook minutes for hours!! Nobody wants money, except Dr. Drew! He's the front man for an abysmal excuse for a hospital that
Former employees of Las Encinas filed a class-action lawsuit against the owner alleging that chronic understaffing has compromised patient care, among other concerns.
Hundreds of credible rehab centers would love to have Dr. Drew's support - why does he insist on being affiliated with this horrific excuse for a rehab center?
The full article about the lawsuit can be viewed at on the LA Times website. A video of the news story is available via KABC Los Angeles' website.
Whatever happened to self responsability? Why are people so eager to blame anyone else for whatever goes wrong in their life? It is YOUR choice to take the first hit/shot/sniff. There is peer pressure, but choosing to say no shows strength.
If someone tries a drug and gets hooked, it is their choice and anything afterward is their fault alone.
Stop blaming other people who try to help but fail getting you off the shit when you got yourself on it in the first place.
So, Dr Drew is responsible for the deaths of these people, even though he is just an affiliate? I don't recall Dr Drew claiming to be a treating doctor at this facility
Fuck em. Drew is a great doctor, they are just looking for someone to blame because their son is fucking cracked out. It's natural for people to try and find a scape goat.
No one is looking for a scape goat. We just want to make sure that no more unsuspecting people get lured to this place thinking that they'll be treated by a competent doctor. Recently, Dr. Drew severed his ties with Las Encinas (after there were more suicides and several escapes.) This suggests to me that he agrees that this place is sub-par (to say the least!)
Over the weekend, an article in the LA times confirmed that Dr. Drew has left Las Encinas after unsupervised patients attempted suicide and others escaped. Now that there is no celebrity name attached to this dump, hopefully people will go to a facility that can actually help, not harm them. Kudos to Drew for finally seeing the light.
You people who say these innocent people deserve this make me sick. My best friend was one of these victims and he just wanted help so he could live - and he woudl have had it not been for this joke of a rehab facility!1
1divaaa.... People send kids here to get help. If you had anything for brains you would realize that the reason these people died was because of negligence. Do some research before you make careless statements.
if you go to a hospital because of some guy you see on television...you deserve what you get. go based upon their success rates, methods of treatment, anything besides a television personality...even if he is a physician.
plus if you think that dr drew in any way is responsible for anything that happened to these poor people then you are retarded. people are usually retarded when it comes to health and mental health in the first place, but following misinformation on the grounds that it is emotionally appealing is retarded.
Dr. Drew is a (very effective) marketing tool for Las Encinas. They didn't choose him because he's the best doctor in the world, they chose him b/c his name is one that people recognize and trust. Yes, people make mistakes, but after reading the recent LA Times article, Las Encinas has proven that these problems are systemic. While I understand the argument that he's not directly responsible for past cases, it's simply absurd to deny the part his support plays in saving lives in the future.
It's the moral thing to do. If you are aware of these facts, and he is now, it is wrong to allow others to rely on his good name and end up there. By putting his name behind Las Encinas, he causes unsuspecting prospective patients to expect the hospital provides the same quality of care as he would and that hospital does not.
but the hospital DOES provide the same quality of care. these were separate incidents. neglect happens all over but hospitals do their best to try and fix the situations. this hospital is famous, therefore it is different somehow?
It is only famous now because of Dr Drew's name. Other hospitals that have good standards are not investigated over and over by medicare and the California hospital regulatory commission. Las Encinas has consistently and constantly been criticised by these agencies and found lacking in their care and commitment to patients and to their own published rules. This is all documented and the problems have escalated since Signature Corp took over ownership of Aurora Hositals, including Las Encinas
Las Encinas needs to be shut down. One of the MD's reviewing the records called it "a culture of neglect" Newspaper articles,Geraldo bring attention to their neglect. Now, many insurance companies are taking their name off their improved list. Medicare is threatening to withdraw their support. If Dr Drew withdraws his name, fewer unsuspecting prospective patients will go there and without patients, they'll close. Tell your loved ones to stay away.
and he does see people at las encinas. he cant list himself as the medical director of the chemical dependency unit. he can apply for the position but he cant give himself the job. and if he was not involved there in any way then the board members woud be all up his ass. that is the only issue i have with your argument. other than that i can see why you would think that las encinas is a hellhole by your reasoning
wow this is so stupid! this has nothing to do with dr drew.... why attack him... the amount of people he helps outweighs the problems... they dont even go so far as to mention what the two sons were afflicted with when they were at the hospital. a hospital that is probably conveniently located close to pasadena recovery centre MAKES SENSE... and no matter which hospital he would have chosen to display in the show.... PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED IN IT
No, the people that diedwould not have died (or been raped) at "any hospital. These men died (and the woman was raped) because the doctors, nurses and staff were not trained. Rather then ranting about "how stupid" a post is about unnecessary deaths why don't you read the March 3rd LA Times article that includes many of the findings of neglect by the State Hospital Board. None of these deaths came from residents of Pasadena Recovery Center which is not affiliated with Los Encinas
Noone is insinuating that Dr Drew is incompetent. When competent (even famous)doctors lend their name to a hospital that has been found negligently responsible for four deaths,then that dr needs to rethink whether he's helping when people who rely on the fact that he's affiliated with that hospital make the difficult decision to send their loved ones there. Las Encinas has been investigated continuously for malfeasance since December06 and found responsible for an alarming number of deaths.
its kind of silly how geraldo goes "WHY ARE PEOPLE DYING IN DR DREWS HOSPITAL?!" and then throws a picture of dr drew up there like "HERE HE IS PEOPLE! THIS IS THE GUY WHO IS KILLING YOUR CHILDREN" and then puts that grieving mom on the screen and having her insinuate theat dr drew is not qualified because he is famous. its sickening and kind of funny. poor mother
the people who died died when the nurses and the probation officer were not paying attention. im not against the nursing staff because one bad apple seems to ruin it for all of the good nurses there. not dr. drew's fault and he helps ALOT of young people on loveline. and he makes sense out of our crazy culture. SHAME ON GERALDO for putting these poor parents on the show and exploiting their pain to try and get a news story. the LA times started blaming dr. drew and they conned the poor parents
Two separate nurses failed to check two patients and then falsified records to show that they did. Scores of other techs,nurses and doctors were aware of it and did nothing. Several doctors are being investigated by the medical board for administering improper and excessive medication. It's been going on since a new company (Signature) bought the hospital. Dr Drew is now aware of these facts and he needs to withdraw his support because many rely on his name and expertise in selecting a hospital.
Dr Drew sees very few ,if any ,patients at Las Encinas. He just lists himself as the Director and then people go to that hospital because he is affiliated with it. By withdrawing his name he would still see his patients at the other facilities he's affiliated with. (facilities that have not had the numbers of deaths and state investigations that Las Encinas has) Huntington Memorial is a fine hospital and in the Pasadena area.
people need his expertise to select a hospital??? every hospital has deaths that could have been prevented, but i dont think any place that is geared towards healing people needs to be given a bad name. i cant stand how they call this hospital a hell hole!!! its a hospital.. everyone hates going there, dealing with doctors, waiting in line.... being around the ill. BUT THATS WHAT IT IS PPL. what did these guys even go in there for??? it must have been a very serious situation
They were in for relapsing in their fight for sobriety. They both admitted themselves in hopes that they would be cared for and watched as you expect a good hospital to do. Both were given respiratory depressents in too large a dose by the MDs@ Las Encinas; were not watched by the nurses and stopped breathing while asleep in their Las Encinas beds. Healthy young men trying to stay sober like so many others. Died of negligence of Las Encinas. Not all hospitals are hellholes-but Las Encinas is
you have a point. but you know there is another side of the issue. you are right there had to have been some GREAT negligence in oversight. but again this is not dr. drew's FAULT because he was not in charge of the oversight. he was in charge of how he was to give people their treatment when they saw him. he informs the staff of each of the patients' conditions and what care he thinks they need as he is supposed to but beyond that he cannot do anything. he cant fire people or anything like that.
and how does it make any sense for him to take the blame for something that happened when he was 1) not around and 2) not in charge of supervising the nursing staff. he was just a doctor who gave people treatment during scheduled appointments. thats it. just because he is famous and these people went there because of him, people want to make some sort of accusation like its his fault that they went there because of him. " i want to go to this famous guy's hospital" that is the PERSON'S DECISION
I agree with the ready sparrow, I mean unless Dr Drew did knowingly and willingly fail to give these patients the proper medication, monitoring, etc. then he can't be at fault for what his staff did, or in this case, did not do.
thank you finally someone gets it. plus, its not like he threw his hands in the air and said "FUCK IT" he felt very bad for this and he himself said that he worked with the investigators but since there is confidentiality, there was not much that he could talk about. he didnt openly talk about the patients because he cant. and we see that as him not caring.
It's not Dr. Drew's fault that these patients died. A patient's entire medical record cannot be released RE: HIPPA. People die in sobriety/rehab facilities everyday. I'm a nurse - it's reality. Techs, nurses, etc etc. provide the direct patient care. The doctor's oversee the care of the patients. They are just bashing him and it's rediculous
coral you are absolutely right. but unfortunately people are too dumb to realize that. they want to bring him down to their level. i think that it has something to do with his success and people do not want to listen to someone who is more educated. its weird.
I know Mr. Grassini & I knew Leo. Leo went to this facility to get well, he trusted them with his life. He even reminded them to "check his Vitals" but to avail. Leo never came home again & with me being a Mom of a addict, that would quailfy as a parents worst nightmare. Even in Mr. Grassini's grief, he took the time to give me hope in Bree's recovery. He said to always keep my Faith. I did & she is still here with us. Thank you for helping those parents that suffer. Leos death won't be in vain.
He's one of only two Chemical Dependency physicans listed on the medical staff. And whatever his title, fact is many patients choose this facility because of him. You're suggesting him shrugging his soldiers and saying, hey, not my fault, is all we should expect. He could at least resign his position.
yes because it ISNT his fault. is he supposed to turn these patients away? i9f someone wants ot go to a famous person's hospital then the doctor cant decline. thats unethical. why would he resign if its not his fault? thats like a pediatrician resigning because one of the patients was abused by a nurse when the pediatrician was not there. does that make sense?
Dr. Drew should be reminded that, above all else, he's supposed to be a doctor, not Jerry Springer. He should own up to these fatal mistakes and commit to making it better or shut it down. Standing by this facility, in the face of multiple deaths, is very disrespectful to the families.
listen. he cannot shut it down or make it better. that is not his job. nor was it his responsibility when they died. he administers a chemical dependency program. think about your logic. you are asking a doctor to improve something that he has no control over. you cant ask a pediatrician for better MRI equipment can you? case in point. he has no dealings with the nursing staff or the caretakers. he is a doctor who sees patients. thats it.
uh yeah i kind of do know. i have a friend who is a doctor and when i told him what dr. drew's reply was, my friend (who is a medical doctor) said that dr drew is absolutely right. plus if it were his responsibility dont you think there would be an investigation of HIM? he is not being investigated. im sorry if you lost your son but that doesnt give you the right to attack an innocent person because you are hurting.
threadysparrow: You must be associated with Dr. Drew. The fact that you know a Dr. who is careless enough to give false statements to you about a situation he knows ZERO about, is just plain dangerous. Try to have some compassion for this situation, if you are able. And I just pray that any children you might have, will never have to suffer like ALL of these children and parents that have lost their kids, do. Shame on you.
but how was this dr. drews fault? the medical director does not have any business with the nursing staff, the medical director cannot shut down a hospital. and the medical director cant hire and fire nurses. accusing me of being associated with dr drew is a non argument. how well do you know about the administrative duties of doctors. how do you know who is responsible? hospitals are run by boards, not by a single person and definitely not be a co director of chemical dependency. quit blaming
I wonder if Dr. Drew is a parent?? I wonder if his son was suffering from an addiction, would he send them to Las Encinas for treatment and leave him overnight? Probably not. Dr. Drew needs to do the right thing-- make a statement -- separate yourself from Las Encinas, the responsibility is REAL, not PERCEIVED.
When I think of the young people going into Las Encinas when they so disperately need all the help they can get and they not only don't get the help, but don't come out at all, I could scream!! This entire situation needs to become a "Hot Topic" and brought to the attention of every person and parent making the difficult decision where to go to get help for themselves or their loved ones so that Las Encinas is taken off the table and the decision is made to go elsewhere.
People check into Las Encinas so they'll be safe + cared-for when they're most vulnerable. Instead, they're overmedicated + ignored. This place needs to shut down before it kills again. The management companies (Aurora + Signature Healthcare) have chosen profits over patients' needs.
If you know anyone seeking treatment, send them this video. Tell them to research Aurora + Signature Healthcare - they run many treatment centers across the US + many facilities are being investigated.
This is a tragic story that should be getting much more attention from the media. Dr. Drew uses his celebrity status to attract sick patients to his hospital and yet so few people know the truth about how poorly run Las Encinas (Sober House) really is.
Falsifying records, unprofessional staff?? This is supposed to be a very high-end treatment facility that is extremely expensive. How could he allow such poor oversight under his watch?
and is dr drew in jail? i would revenge to drew
predoje 3 weeks ago
Say what you will about Dr Drew but he is a great doctor
tsb049 1 month ago
God I hate when parents come out and want to blame everyone but their addict children. It's like the Mom who thinks every other kid is bad when their kid gets in trouble. How about blaming your parenting.
CobainLennon8094 2 months ago
I saw Sober House in the 2 seasons it was on. It seems they give their clients TOO much freedom while there. Because a few of those celebs, when they go there, they go back to the clubs/bars and get what they can. I think that place is too lenient on their clients rehab.
JoLeana76 2 months ago
Guys! This is a JOKE.. Look at the bottom left
AlmostaFlipinSkater 2 months ago
WHY ARE PEOPLE DYING IN DOCTOR DREWS HOSPITAL?
modshroom 3 months ago
... whats RS70?
UGHC1 5 months ago
Dr. Drew actually insists that marijuana be legalized. With that said, you're misinterpreting his words. @TheM9Beretta "...or smoke a joint every now & then u are an addict."
RainWolf20 6 months ago
Aw! :) -- @puffykilled2pac "He's like a father figure to me."
RainWolf20 6 months ago
LMAO! No shit, right? @Putaspellonyou
RainWolf20 6 months ago
You know, although I do admire Dr. Drew for his intelligence, I think you may be onto something. -- @ForDoverUSA "he may know some shit about addiction, but he's more an actor than anything. Very good one."
RainWolf20 6 months ago
God! Fox news screws everything up. It seems like anyone or anything thats good in life fox news is standing right there to counter it with some bullshit lies. Doctor drew wasn't the cause of these peoples deaths, obviously it was the crappy hospital that they were in, so........... wouldn't it make more sense to go after the hospital for its shitty medical care instead???
chrishasaclue 6 months ago 2
@chrishasaclue Fox is like a lot of different media outlets. They say whatever they think will attract more people to pay attention.They also don't realize that not all of their viewers actually fall for their lies. Sadly, however, people like us who see how ignorant media outlets like Fox are have been outnumbered hundreds of times over by people who think whatever Fox says is informative and dependable.
borninswamplands 5 months ago
so apparently everyone is a doctor all of a sudden and knows what they are talking about once 3 patients die?
ninmachine109 7 months ago
I am sorry for the parents' sorrow but with all due respect, their kids were addicts and that lifestyle's risks are extreme. The parents can point their fingers at Drew and the hospital but in reality the issue begins and ends with the addict and those who supported their lifestyles, prior to treatment. Its always far too easy to blame someone else when true heartbreak is authored by a loved one. These parents need to accept that their addicted children were the sole reason for the loss.
guysmileytoo 7 months ago
If it's FOX and Geraldo, I feel disappointed that this story is probably blown out of proportion or something that doesn't directly involve him personally (i.e some fuckhead orderly that neglects patients/overloads the perscriptions).
acemusta 8 months ago
simple there not celebs so why should dr drew care.he gets paid twice as much doing the tv show than at the hospital he works at so who would you pay more attention to.a nobody with a drug habit or a celeb with the same thing who is on a show
sdavis732010 10 months ago
Las Encinas is a 1st rate hospital, I have been through their program several times and finally got sober there. Every hospital that treats these kind of patients has some small percentage of people that die, in the process of getting clean and sober. I knew all of the people who died there, from the meetings that are held on the grounds and being in L.E. with them. Two were freak medication reactions, one a suicide and the other brought his own drugs into the hospital. Fox News=Ridiculous.
EmanEzone 10 months ago
As soon as I saw the Fox News logo I questioned any validity.
Mrsilenciobackgammon 11 months ago
They are saying they went to him because of his famous medical care. This means that the only reason they are talking shit about him on TV is because he's famous. In any other case they wouldn't be holding the doctor responsible.
Jon79K15 11 months ago
Dr.Drew is NOT in any way, shape, or form responsible 4 this. He has helped save the lives (directly and indirectly) of 10s of thousands of ppl,simply by shedding light (to millions of ppl across the US) on the severity of addiction n its fatal consequences. 4that alone, DrDrew should b greatly respected n appreciated. If i sent my kid2rehab, i would def send em 2the safest, best place. Addiction is horrible, Ive seen it all. My condolences to the families who lost sum1
Jscrila24 11 months ago
he may know some shit about addiction, but he's more an actor than anything. Very good one.
ForDoverUSA 1 year ago
If they would have spent as much research and time on their kids drug problem as they do trying to go after Dr.Drew their kids might still be alive.
CRAZYJ10ify 1 year ago
Alot of these kind of places pray on people in their weakest times. its really sad but their are alot of people and places that really do try and help. Dont let this stop you from getting help its not all like this. And BTW its not allways their fault, and its not drews fault dr drew is a amazing man and does nothing but try and help people.
MiBlazed 1 year ago
people die in hospitals? holy shit!
Putaspellonyou 1 year ago
this is pure uncut bullshit
jasperisneat 1 year ago
Yeah it is not Dr Drews fault
Bengbusen 1 year ago
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darkartproductions 1 year ago
Dr drew is a hypocrite. He pretends to go the extra mile for the celebrity addicts on his stupid tv show, but in REALITY his employees don't even monitor his patients at las encinas hospital and three deaths ensued. How would you feel about "celebrity rehab" if you lost someone at his facility and the government reported that the nurses didn't even check on them but said they did? Then he has the nerve to go on tv and proclaim to Rachel uchetel that he and his staff will do anything it takes to
Lawrence78 1 year ago
Drew rules, Geraldo is a god damn douche.
s0beit 1 year ago
A hell hole that's killing people? These people are addicts and you're surprised that they die young?
Darkaero199 1 year ago
Just because Dr. Drew works in a wing of the hospital his child died at doesn't mean Dr. Drew is responsible. No where do they ever say that the deceased were patients of his. This is some retarded bullshit angle used by angry people who want a scapegoat for their big story.
FSquid 1 year ago
@FSquid thats fox news for ya!
MiBlazed 1 year ago
wow this is absolutely crazy....i feel sorry that these people lost their children but how can they drag dr drew into it unless he was personally monitoring their cases. I get the feeling that these people are looking at dollar signs.....
bingbang333 1 year ago
Dr. Drew being blamed because he's famous? This happens EVERYWHERE. Just because a "celebrity" is involved, doesn't mean he's anymore to blame than any other medical directer that has had a patient die.
TheRealAaronThurman 1 year ago
Billion dollar a year treament "industry". Federal Govt. statistics state a 1 in 30 success rate for treatment centers, they the " treatment centers will tell you 1 in 12. If the medical field had a failure rate of 29 out of 30 they would be crusified by the judicial system, congress and the health insurance companys!!!
TREATMENT CENTERS ARE QUACKERY
43fatfax 1 year ago
This is Fox News bullshit!
mclockwork777 1 year ago 3
Drs and there staff are not Gods . Parents that have dead children look for someone to blame . People die in every hospital . When I had a child someone in the hospital stole my medicine but you do not shut the whole hospital . Look when it comes down to it I am sorry but your child started the problem , your child was an addict people die from that and he was an adult and the resposibilty for his actions was his .
Mshardworker3 1 year ago
yes, it's Dr. Drews fault that these people are dying as a result of their drug use...
Come one people...
h2valex 1 year ago
I've been listening to Drew since I was a child and he is like a father figure to me. I really believe anyone criticizing him really doesn't know him very well.
From my understanding Drew has dropped his association with this place.
puffykilled2pac 1 year ago
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its a desease when u wanna stop using,cause your body get sick if u dont use anymore
thugproofclips 1 year ago
Dont do hard drugs! You could die! Im sick of society enabling drug addiction by pampering and excusing people who are making bad decisions. How many junkies and OD's do you need to see to realize that this will be you if you mess with hard drugs (opiates, cocaine, amphetamine based, prescription meds)? I dont think addiction is a disease. Its a self inflicted condition. dont blame other people for the poor choices of somebody else or poor choices of your own.
squidtastic84 1 year ago
@squidtastic84 its a desease when u wanna stocause your body get sick if u dont use anymore.
thugproofclips 1 year ago
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thugproofclips 1 year ago
i h8 dr. drew he thinks if u drink beer on the weekends or smoke a joint every now & then u are an addict hes got people thinkn addiction is a disease its not a disease thats just another excuse
TheM9Beretta 1 year ago
No "Direct" knowledge. It's all indirect, but his punk eugenecist ass is GUILTY!!!!
EsotericKitten 1 year ago
People just think they can drop they loved ones off to be "fixed." You need to educate yourselves about their needs. ie. does detox from drugXYZ require 24/7 observation? Las Encimas is not 24/7 observation. Also an affliation with the place does not make a Doctor or therapist instantly responsible for ANOTHER professionals actions. If the nurse was not doing their job t/are responsible and t/addict is responsible for continuing drug use despite the known risk of death.
Jujitgg12 1 year ago
damn Geraldo, you're pretty much a jaggoff
FernAveEnt 1 year ago
If Dr. Drew isn't responsible for any of the deaths then why did he leave Las Encinas faster then you can light a match!
ronkon11 1 year ago
That's funny because I went to that hospital Las Encinas and I was billed by Dr. Pinsky and my medical record had my doctor of record as Dr. Pinsky and I saw him ZERO times - he too busy being a reality ACTOR - he took a Drug & alcohal certification course - I think it's an 8 week course but he's a family doctor M.D. and Internist - he has made this whole MASTER of Addiction thing a joke and YES - when you are the medical director of a hospital - You are FULLY responsible for nursing.
ronkon11 1 year ago
According to people that actually know the doctor, such as Adam Carolla, Drew is one of the most compassionate, kind-hearted, out-reaching, generous people in the world. I listened to Loveline for many years, read a few of his books, and got the same impression.
These people deserve to be angry, but to blame Dr. Drew for their sons' deaths is vindictive and unnecessary.
DeadontheThrone 1 year ago
The American public sue doctors like crazy... they are presumed innocent until and unless a court says differently... If a doctor explains guidelines to a 'patient', and the they don't follow them, the doctor isn't liable.
I doubt very much Dr. Drew would be putting so much of his shows on television if he energy would be better spent doing legal matters.
Someone could even be sued for defamation...
switcherx 1 year ago
Wow this is pathetic. It's like saying you can't show COPS on tv cause what you see is gona make you think that cops is gona rescue you wherever you are.
I think the show has made more people see what hell drugusers go trough.
Why not talk about the thousands of lifes this place has changed.
And they are blaming Dr. Drew that this kid died there like he not would have died at another treatment place
horgyboy 1 year ago
I went to las encinas and it was a great hospital detox was good living was good and he spoke every thursday night and was the most knowloedgable person i have ever met in the field of addiction
ksimo05 1 year ago
These asshole's blaming Dr. Drew are stupid.......everyone is responsible for their own addictions. I am an addict and know these stupid parents are just grieving and looking for someone to blame. People can get clean at homeless shelters if they go to A.A.....these rich assholes are spoiled.
Flipper79able 1 year ago
i agree dr drew is a celeberity attention seeker
his a disgrace ,he blames doctors for peoples addiction
no one make you take drugs ,drew you moron
hope someone shoots him.
hypnocil10 1 year ago
@hypnocil10 You truly are the moron. Educate yourself before you pop off. Nice touch with the wishing of violence. You are a real class act......
shebrksmysiren 1 year ago
you're the moron trying to defend a doctor who rather give treatment to celebrity's
instead of normal people , you are a pathetic piece of shit and a junkie.
hypnocil10 1 year ago
I'm in recovery and this show is a joke. Kma Dr drew
Maskarakachinba 1 year ago
fox news is for the dum down people . what a joke that is not funny
malex0171 1 year ago
That's a crock of shit to say.. 'these reality shows have consequences'. I'm an alky and I did it !!! Medical doctors along with ALL the counsellors on the planet won't stop the alky who intends to drink. These people are transferring their anger for their loved ones onto Pinsky as a way of processing their grief with less shame. Statistically most addicted people die or go insane. More will die at this & every other treatment centre on the planet. Sorry for your losses.. but ..Get real.
VITASart 1 year ago
I doubt the celebs could handle any rehab treatment facility that every day people have to go through. I saw the episode where they bitched about having to work, and thought they were above it. They wouldn't have dared to pull that in a nonprofit rehab. The other people in the house would come down on them so hard they'd pee their silk ruffled britches.Except maybe Rodman and even he'd know not to piss off a bunch of excons , street drug fiends going through it. Blind folded and beat.
tellthetruthg 1 year ago
@tellthetruthg ===No doubt!! What about the little spoiled BITCH Kari-Anne getting her own room and her whole stupid juice crap was INSANITY
giaisbomb 1 year ago
@giaisbomb I can't even watch that Kari Anne, it's unbearable.
twocentsin 1 year ago
i dont think dr.drew should be accused of this, i think these ppl just want someone to blame..
sweetlynumb86 1 year ago 21
case of medical negligence/malpractice. Were ALL 3 patients who died even admitted to Department of Chemical Dependency Services? It is completely false that medical directors are responsible for nursing care given, even within their own department. If I were Dr. Pinsky I would have my lawyers all over this video for attempting a totally erroneous connection between Dr. Pinsky and the tragic death of these patients. What a horrible thing to be accused of. Many suits are brought against hospitals
j1cjoli 1 year ago 3
What does it tell you that Dr. Drew decided not to put his "lawyers all over this" and instead opted to remove his support and affiliation with this hospital? His actions show that he agrees this is a horrible hospital.
ktchico 1 year ago 12
@ktchico
It tells me that his celebrity factors into his decision. Not much more.
genxtargetmarket 1 year ago
@ktchico Nevertheless, he has a possible case of lible. Fox News and Geraldo Rivera seem to be painting his name over a hospital to which he was only affiliated with. It wasn't as though he was directly connected to the death of these young men.
clemenza1234 1 year ago
@ktchico your point is valid, but that STILL doesn't mean this segment should've gone as far as it did in tying him to those deaths! for geraldo to say IN THESE WORDS that those kids died because of dr drew is outrageous!
sprinklefriend 7 months ago
@j1cjoli You couldn't be more wrong. Directors are responsible for the care given to patients. You should be ashamed of yourself. Take your filth elsewhere.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
@j1cjoli now mike starr?? hmm
CLOVERCITYY15 8 months ago
is responsible for what happened to these two patients, which is not described for us to decide what has actually happened was indeed an act of neglect etc on the part of the hospital. I am very sorry for the parents of these two patients, however, basing your decision of choosing an inpatient facility simply because you see Dr. Drew on TV is a poor choice. In addition, how is this 1) related to Sober House in any substantial way? and 2) a scandal? This sounds like what may POSSIBLY be a tragic
j1cjoli 1 year ago
I created an account for no other reason than to post a comment on this ridiculous video. What an example of the media at its worst. 1) It is NOT Drew Pinsky's Hospital. He is only a CO-director of ONE of the specialties of medicine. This does not make him responsible for the nursing care given whatsoever, nor does it mean he supports a poor hospital. His position as a co-director merely means he contributes to the decisions of MEDICAL organization within the program. This does not mean he
j1cjoli 1 year ago
@j1cjoli: i totally agree.
sweetlynumb86 1 year ago
In a home where everything is on camera how can they not be watched?
iraqidolphin 1 year ago
This isn't the home that is featured on Celeb Rehab. Las Encinas is a rehab hospital that is nearby in Pasadena. Dr. Drew had been affiliated with Las Encinas for 19 years, but after he realized how horribly this place was being run, he finally severed ties with Las Encinas.
ktchico 1 year ago 5
@ktchico what sense does that make? you've been a director at a facility FOR 19 YEARS, just when the heat is on about your facility you pull out????? sounds like some other shit is NOT being stated here. there is more behind the veil people.
WAKEDAFCUKUP!
wakedafcukup 1 year ago
I'm calling bullshit. Slander if u ask me!
DBZO12 2 years ago
im an addict to he does ween her off, just because you get weened off still prone to seizure, he doesnt ween on pain meds
sadiedaddie2121 2 years ago
As a recovering addict I have been concerned with Pinsky's refusal to ween people off of especially dangerous drugs like benzo-diazepine[valium].Mindy McCready had a seizure on TV!Cold turkey isn't necessarily the best route.peace[love DR DREW by the way!!!]
777lovewillconquer 2 years ago 2
Where did you hear he doesn't ween people off of benzo's? He doesn't ween off of Opiates... Benzos are not Opiates... Benzodiazepine meds can cause seizures if you ween off of them or not.
ShojoBakunyu 1 year ago
tell the masses.
EvilBeatsmith 2 years ago
I call bullshit. Just because Drew is famous doesn't mean he's a miracle worker. Guess what? We have free will, even as patients. Guess what drug addicts unfortunately do sometimes? They die. If you listened to Loveline, the talk show Dr. Drew records for two hours five nights a week, you'd get a glimpse of how personally he gets involved with his patients' recoveries & how much he feels their pain. Slander. These trolls are looking for their 15 minutes. People are lucky to be under his care.
nickyptv 2 years ago
Trust me, no one in these families wants to be famous because their loved ones died. And we all understand the dangers of addiction. The problem is that with Dr. Drew's name attached to Las Encinas, people think they will get the kind of care Dr. Drew is famous for - competent, kind and careful. Fortunately, Dr. Drew has severed his ties with Las Encinas and can now care for people in a qualified, safe hospital. (LA Times and AOL have both covered this story.)
PhoebeGrass 1 year ago
It the oldest saying in the book...BLAME BLAME BLAME ...THE BLAME GAME.
missionaryoffaith 2 years ago
Civil lawsuits work so that chase a culpable party that may be held liable for damages, and not to chase the actual person(s) responsible. So because Dr Drew is the largest target with big money, they want to grab headlines by going after him. He is not directly responsible for a case he didn't personally handle.
Besides, this is what insurance lawyers are for, to negotiate the settlement. Dr Drew isn't going to go anywhere near this.
hoyle1911 2 years ago
Threadysparrow and Separatiist have it right on. Being a recovering hospitalized addict myself; I say Kudos to especially threadysparrow. People are just retarded if they thing Dr. Drew is responsible. Recovery is no walk in the park, and unless you have been in the exact same recovery center at the same time, no one knows what the circumstances were. Based just off of logic- What would be in it for him just to neglect patients? <-- complete retardism! A plague on all your houses who disagree!
ggguknowG 2 years ago
Congratulations on your recovery. Thank goodness you went to a hospital where you were carefully monitored and properly medicated. Now that Dr. Drew has severed his ties with Las Encinas (following several deaths, patient rapes, suicides and escapes) he can now concentrate on helping people at a qualified institution. And, hopefully, once people see he's no longer endorsing Las Encinas, they'll avoid it and seek help at a safe place, like you did. Good luck with your sobriety - stay strong.
ktchico 1 year ago
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Dr Drew I cant believe people even take him seriously.... Everything about him is HORRIBLE, I stopped watching his show because I feel hes exploiting addicts, You cant help someone properly with all those cameras around. Guy is a scumbag, The few times Ive watched his show I have seen 2 of his 'patients' have seizures which should of never of happen bc he legally should of weened them off of xanax instead of his cold turkey, Hes a scumbucket.
attaqproductionz 8 months ago
scapegoat much..What a joke this is a fabricated story. Drg addicts die because they are drug addicts. In what way was it the hospitals faukt?? And how is it Dr drews fault. And what does it have to do with the realit show?? Iam not following. These people are just trying to find someone with money to put a law suit on period end of story.
bigdog0800 2 years ago
Oh really! My nephew was dead for what ...12 -15 hours...despite the order to Dr. Drew's staff to check on him every 15 minutes! I guess they mistook minutes for hours!! Nobody wants money, except Dr. Drew! He's the front man for an abysmal excuse for a hospital that
>should not even be licensed!
JohnNY4NY 2 years ago
Dr. Drew has said on Loveline that he had nothing to do with these people whatsoever. They were under the care of some one else, not him.
sp51516 2 years ago
Former employees of Las Encinas filed a class-action lawsuit against the owner alleging that chronic understaffing has compromised patient care, among other concerns.
Hundreds of credible rehab centers would love to have Dr. Drew's support - why does he insist on being affiliated with this horrific excuse for a rehab center?
The full article about the lawsuit can be viewed at on the LA Times website. A video of the news story is available via KABC Los Angeles' website.
ktchico 2 years ago
It's great to finally read something by someone whom understands the terrible truth about Dr. Drew and Las Encinas! Thank you!
JohnNY4NY 2 years ago
honestly, dr drew could have maybe savrd them IF HE WAS INVOLVED IN ANY WAY but the truth is that he had nothing to do with any of this
threadysparrow 2 years ago
Whatever happened to self responsability? Why are people so eager to blame anyone else for whatever goes wrong in their life? It is YOUR choice to take the first hit/shot/sniff. There is peer pressure, but choosing to say no shows strength.
If someone tries a drug and gets hooked, it is their choice and anything afterward is their fault alone.
Stop blaming other people who try to help but fail getting you off the shit when you got yourself on it in the first place.
verticalsmurf 2 years ago
that's got nothing to do with dying from improper medical treatment at a hospital you are paying good money for.
JDBlessin 2 years ago
So, Dr Drew is responsible for the deaths of these people, even though he is just an affiliate? I don't recall Dr Drew claiming to be a treating doctor at this facility
verticalsmurf 2 years ago
Fuck em. Drew is a great doctor, they are just looking for someone to blame because their son is fucking cracked out. It's natural for people to try and find a scape goat.
hokeytothepokey 2 years ago
No one is looking for a scape goat. We just want to make sure that no more unsuspecting people get lured to this place thinking that they'll be treated by a competent doctor. Recently, Dr. Drew severed his ties with Las Encinas (after there were more suicides and several escapes.) This suggests to me that he agrees that this place is sub-par (to say the least!)
ktchico 1 year ago
Yeah he will help you get cured Sure he will
krossarena 2 years ago
slander
pennelp7770 2 years ago
Over the weekend, an article in the LA times confirmed that Dr. Drew has left Las Encinas after unsupervised patients attempted suicide and others escaped. Now that there is no celebrity name attached to this dump, hopefully people will go to a facility that can actually help, not harm them. Kudos to Drew for finally seeing the light.
ktchico 1 year ago
How is it his fault? the drug addicts are at fault
jknutson09 2 years ago 2
Its good to hear that this DrDrew guy is convincing addicts to get help. Tens of thousands of people die a year because they wait to get help.
The three local rehabs in my area had 108 drug-related deaths in 2004. If only they had gotten in 1 month sooner...
ilikehwy40 2 years ago 3
no his son his dead becasue he was never focused on his own soberity he only wanted to Dr. Drew to offer a quick fix to his addiction.
JM111787 2 years ago
You people who say these innocent people deserve this make me sick. My best friend was one of these victims and he just wanted help so he could live - and he woudl have had it not been for this joke of a rehab facility!1
renemichelle80 2 years ago
1divaaa.... People send kids here to get help. If you had anything for brains you would realize that the reason these people died was because of negligence. Do some research before you make careless statements.
ckm100 2 years ago
this is lame. these people go in cuz they're hooked on drugs and then they want to sue the doctors when their kid O.D.s.
1divaaa 2 years ago
if you go to a hospital because of some guy you see on television...you deserve what you get. go based upon their success rates, methods of treatment, anything besides a television personality...even if he is a physician.
wesjoe311 2 years ago
plus if you think that dr drew in any way is responsible for anything that happened to these poor people then you are retarded. people are usually retarded when it comes to health and mental health in the first place, but following misinformation on the grounds that it is emotionally appealing is retarded.
threadysparrow 2 years ago 4
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Well, if it was on FOX news it has to be true eh??
fuck off and die of cancer Geraldo with your fake-ass ultra white boy sounding "spanish" you're a fraud so is fox noise
leshager 2 years ago
Dr. Drew is a (very effective) marketing tool for Las Encinas. They didn't choose him because he's the best doctor in the world, they chose him b/c his name is one that people recognize and trust. Yes, people make mistakes, but after reading the recent LA Times article, Las Encinas has proven that these problems are systemic. While I understand the argument that he's not directly responsible for past cases, it's simply absurd to deny the part his support plays in saving lives in the future.
getoutsideandplay 2 years ago
I was a patient here...the adolecent ward...I hated the way the doctors had things ran. I hope this hospital crashes and BURNS!
TheTimMan2528 2 years ago
It's the moral thing to do. If you are aware of these facts, and he is now, it is wrong to allow others to rely on his good name and end up there. By putting his name behind Las Encinas, he causes unsuspecting prospective patients to expect the hospital provides the same quality of care as he would and that hospital does not.
ktchico 2 years ago
but the hospital DOES provide the same quality of care. these were separate incidents. neglect happens all over but hospitals do their best to try and fix the situations. this hospital is famous, therefore it is different somehow?
threadysparrow 2 years ago
It is only famous now because of Dr Drew's name. Other hospitals that have good standards are not investigated over and over by medicare and the California hospital regulatory commission. Las Encinas has consistently and constantly been criticised by these agencies and found lacking in their care and commitment to patients and to their own published rules. This is all documented and the problems have escalated since Signature Corp took over ownership of Aurora Hositals, including Las Encinas
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago
Las Encinas needs to be shut down. One of the MD's reviewing the records called it "a culture of neglect" Newspaper articles,Geraldo bring attention to their neglect. Now, many insurance companies are taking their name off their improved list. Medicare is threatening to withdraw their support. If Dr Drew withdraws his name, fewer unsuspecting prospective patients will go there and without patients, they'll close. Tell your loved ones to stay away.
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago 2
but how can we sit here and tell someone what he should do with his support?
threadysparrow 2 years ago
and he does see people at las encinas. he cant list himself as the medical director of the chemical dependency unit. he can apply for the position but he cant give himself the job. and if he was not involved there in any way then the board members woud be all up his ass. that is the only issue i have with your argument. other than that i can see why you would think that las encinas is a hellhole by your reasoning
threadysparrow 2 years ago
wow this is so stupid! this has nothing to do with dr drew.... why attack him... the amount of people he helps outweighs the problems... they dont even go so far as to mention what the two sons were afflicted with when they were at the hospital. a hospital that is probably conveniently located close to pasadena recovery centre MAKES SENSE... and no matter which hospital he would have chosen to display in the show.... PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED IN IT
crackfiendables 2 years ago
No, the people that diedwould not have died (or been raped) at "any hospital. These men died (and the woman was raped) because the doctors, nurses and staff were not trained. Rather then ranting about "how stupid" a post is about unnecessary deaths why don't you read the March 3rd LA Times article that includes many of the findings of neglect by the State Hospital Board. None of these deaths came from residents of Pasadena Recovery Center which is not affiliated with Los Encinas
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago
Noone is insinuating that Dr Drew is incompetent. When competent (even famous)doctors lend their name to a hospital that has been found negligently responsible for four deaths,then that dr needs to rethink whether he's helping when people who rely on the fact that he's affiliated with that hospital make the difficult decision to send their loved ones there. Las Encinas has been investigated continuously for malfeasance since December06 and found responsible for an alarming number of deaths.
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago
its kind of silly how geraldo goes "WHY ARE PEOPLE DYING IN DR DREWS HOSPITAL?!" and then throws a picture of dr drew up there like "HERE HE IS PEOPLE! THIS IS THE GUY WHO IS KILLING YOUR CHILDREN" and then puts that grieving mom on the screen and having her insinuate theat dr drew is not qualified because he is famous. its sickening and kind of funny. poor mother
threadysparrow 2 years ago
the people who died died when the nurses and the probation officer were not paying attention. im not against the nursing staff because one bad apple seems to ruin it for all of the good nurses there. not dr. drew's fault and he helps ALOT of young people on loveline. and he makes sense out of our crazy culture. SHAME ON GERALDO for putting these poor parents on the show and exploiting their pain to try and get a news story. the LA times started blaming dr. drew and they conned the poor parents
threadysparrow 2 years ago
Two separate nurses failed to check two patients and then falsified records to show that they did. Scores of other techs,nurses and doctors were aware of it and did nothing. Several doctors are being investigated by the medical board for administering improper and excessive medication. It's been going on since a new company (Signature) bought the hospital. Dr Drew is now aware of these facts and he needs to withdraw his support because many rely on his name and expertise in selecting a hospital.
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago
but how can you withdraw support from a hospital? that is pretty much giving up on the patients in the hospital.
threadysparrow 2 years ago
Dr Drew sees very few ,if any ,patients at Las Encinas. He just lists himself as the Director and then people go to that hospital because he is affiliated with it. By withdrawing his name he would still see his patients at the other facilities he's affiliated with. (facilities that have not had the numbers of deaths and state investigations that Las Encinas has) Huntington Memorial is a fine hospital and in the Pasadena area.
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago
people need his expertise to select a hospital??? every hospital has deaths that could have been prevented, but i dont think any place that is geared towards healing people needs to be given a bad name. i cant stand how they call this hospital a hell hole!!! its a hospital.. everyone hates going there, dealing with doctors, waiting in line.... being around the ill. BUT THATS WHAT IT IS PPL. what did these guys even go in there for??? it must have been a very serious situation
crackfiendables 2 years ago
They were in for relapsing in their fight for sobriety. They both admitted themselves in hopes that they would be cared for and watched as you expect a good hospital to do. Both were given respiratory depressents in too large a dose by the MDs@ Las Encinas; were not watched by the nurses and stopped breathing while asleep in their Las Encinas beds. Healthy young men trying to stay sober like so many others. Died of negligence of Las Encinas. Not all hospitals are hellholes-but Las Encinas is
dadof5andrizzo 2 years ago
you have a point. but you know there is another side of the issue. you are right there had to have been some GREAT negligence in oversight. but again this is not dr. drew's FAULT because he was not in charge of the oversight. he was in charge of how he was to give people their treatment when they saw him. he informs the staff of each of the patients' conditions and what care he thinks they need as he is supposed to but beyond that he cannot do anything. he cant fire people or anything like that.
threadysparrow 2 years ago
and how does it make any sense for him to take the blame for something that happened when he was 1) not around and 2) not in charge of supervising the nursing staff. he was just a doctor who gave people treatment during scheduled appointments. thats it. just because he is famous and these people went there because of him, people want to make some sort of accusation like its his fault that they went there because of him. " i want to go to this famous guy's hospital" that is the PERSON'S DECISION
threadysparrow 2 years ago
I agree with the ready sparrow, I mean unless Dr Drew did knowingly and willingly fail to give these patients the proper medication, monitoring, etc. then he can't be at fault for what his staff did, or in this case, did not do.
chaingangsergeant00X 2 years ago
thank you finally someone gets it. plus, its not like he threw his hands in the air and said "FUCK IT" he felt very bad for this and he himself said that he worked with the investigators but since there is confidentiality, there was not much that he could talk about. he didnt openly talk about the patients because he cant. and we see that as him not caring.
threadysparrow 2 years ago
It's not Dr. Drew's fault that these patients died. A patient's entire medical record cannot be released RE: HIPPA. People die in sobriety/rehab facilities everyday. I'm a nurse - it's reality. Techs, nurses, etc etc. provide the direct patient care. The doctor's oversee the care of the patients. They are just bashing him and it's rediculous
coral221 2 years ago
coral you are absolutely right. but unfortunately people are too dumb to realize that. they want to bring him down to their level. i think that it has something to do with his success and people do not want to listen to someone who is more educated. its weird.
threadysparrow 2 years ago
I know Mr. Grassini & I knew Leo. Leo went to this facility to get well, he trusted them with his life. He even reminded them to "check his Vitals" but to avail. Leo never came home again & with me being a Mom of a addict, that would quailfy as a parents worst nightmare. Even in Mr. Grassini's grief, he took the time to give me hope in Bree's recovery. He said to always keep my Faith. I did & she is still here with us. Thank you for helping those parents that suffer. Leos death won't be in vain.
brezmom123 2 years ago 3
He's one of only two Chemical Dependency physicans listed on the medical staff. And whatever his title, fact is many patients choose this facility because of him. You're suggesting him shrugging his soldiers and saying, hey, not my fault, is all we should expect. He could at least resign his position.
MistaGower 2 years ago
yes because it ISNT his fault. is he supposed to turn these patients away? i9f someone wants ot go to a famous person's hospital then the doctor cant decline. thats unethical. why would he resign if its not his fault? thats like a pediatrician resigning because one of the patients was abused by a nurse when the pediatrician was not there. does that make sense?
threadysparrow 2 years ago
Dr. Drew should be reminded that, above all else, he's supposed to be a doctor, not Jerry Springer. He should own up to these fatal mistakes and commit to making it better or shut it down. Standing by this facility, in the face of multiple deaths, is very disrespectful to the families.
MistaGower 2 years ago
listen. he cannot shut it down or make it better. that is not his job. nor was it his responsibility when they died. he administers a chemical dependency program. think about your logic. you are asking a doctor to improve something that he has no control over. you cant ask a pediatrician for better MRI equipment can you? case in point. he has no dealings with the nursing staff or the caretakers. he is a doctor who sees patients. thats it.
threadysparrow 2 years ago
You have NO idea what you are talking about. Get your facts straight and then make a responsible comment. Otherwise, just be quiet.
brezmom123 2 years ago
uh yeah i kind of do know. i have a friend who is a doctor and when i told him what dr. drew's reply was, my friend (who is a medical doctor) said that dr drew is absolutely right. plus if it were his responsibility dont you think there would be an investigation of HIM? he is not being investigated. im sorry if you lost your son but that doesnt give you the right to attack an innocent person because you are hurting.
threadysparrow 2 years ago
threadysparrow: You must be associated with Dr. Drew. The fact that you know a Dr. who is careless enough to give false statements to you about a situation he knows ZERO about, is just plain dangerous. Try to have some compassion for this situation, if you are able. And I just pray that any children you might have, will never have to suffer like ALL of these children and parents that have lost their kids, do. Shame on you.
brezmom123 2 years ago
but how was this dr. drews fault? the medical director does not have any business with the nursing staff, the medical director cannot shut down a hospital. and the medical director cant hire and fire nurses. accusing me of being associated with dr drew is a non argument. how well do you know about the administrative duties of doctors. how do you know who is responsible? hospitals are run by boards, not by a single person and definitely not be a co director of chemical dependency. quit blaming
threadysparrow 2 years ago
threadysparrow:
Nobody cares what you think or say. You and your opinions are completely irrelevant in this matter. Move on already!
brezmom123 2 years ago
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Shut this horrible place down and make the appropriate persons accountable for their actions and inactions!!!
Nutbutter009 2 years ago
Shut this horrible place down and make the appropriate persons accountable for their actions and inactions!!!
Nutbutter009 2 years ago
I wonder if Dr. Drew is a parent?? I wonder if his son was suffering from an addiction, would he send them to Las Encinas for treatment and leave him overnight? Probably not. Dr. Drew needs to do the right thing-- make a statement -- separate yourself from Las Encinas, the responsibility is REAL, not PERCEIVED.
dcarovill 3 years ago 2
When I think of the young people going into Las Encinas when they so disperately need all the help they can get and they not only don't get the help, but don't come out at all, I could scream!! This entire situation needs to become a "Hot Topic" and brought to the attention of every person and parent making the difficult decision where to go to get help for themselves or their loved ones so that Las Encinas is taken off the table and the decision is made to go elsewhere.
jburnes08 3 years ago
People check into Las Encinas so they'll be safe + cared-for when they're most vulnerable. Instead, they're overmedicated + ignored. This place needs to shut down before it kills again. The management companies (Aurora + Signature Healthcare) have chosen profits over patients' needs.
If you know anyone seeking treatment, send them this video. Tell them to research Aurora + Signature Healthcare - they run many treatment centers across the US + many facilities are being investigated.
PhoebeGrass 3 years ago
This is a tragic story that should be getting much more attention from the media. Dr. Drew uses his celebrity status to attract sick patients to his hospital and yet so few people know the truth about how poorly run Las Encinas (Sober House) really is.
Falsifying records, unprofessional staff?? This is supposed to be a very high-end treatment facility that is extremely expensive. How could he allow such poor oversight under his watch?
Where are your answers?
Shame on you Dr. Drew!
jbush383 3 years ago
Important to anyone thinking of seeking treatment at Las Encinas. Four deaths and a rape in fourteen months. This place needs to be shut down.
dadof5andrizzo 3 years ago 2