You people honestly call yourselves pilots? I mean come on. Gliders glide to safe landings everyday without engines... if he has 7000 feet of runway in a twin small plane, there is no reason why once he has the runway made he can't cut the engines... he doesn't need a go around because he could land 3 times before running out of runway! I completely disagree with the people that say a pilot shouldn't do this, especially the way he landed. Barely even took up 10 feet of the actual runway...
I love how these guys try to save the engines by shutting them down. Good way to screw yourself if you have to go around. Don't compound an already bad situation by removing even more options.
Joe cessna 182 yes your the average joe who flies a single probable a 182, these guys had an emergency and as in the regulations first saved the souls aboard then saved their vessel, no sparks from running engines or prop strikes and they did this all on a runway that air force one has landed on only 8,000 feet you can hardly call them average joes! Good work guys a credit to aviation.
To correct your assumption sir, I am actaully a pilot of 10 years, with many years of professional flying singles, light twins and jet aircraft alike. This pilot would have done a very poor job of saving the people on board had something happened to where a go-around were required. Engines and props are replaceable, people are not. That is why airplanes have insurance. Do not turn one small emergency into something worse by eliminating options.
What go around they had an 8,000 ft runway, engines and props are replaceable, heads and limbs are not if they are hit by a prop from a running engine or cause a fire. You seem to be the only person on you tube to think they did a bad job. (get real!)
Runway length in now way determines whether or not you will need to go around. Wind Shear, aircraft or vehicle coming out on the runway, ny number of things could require a go around no matter whether the runway is 8,000 feet long or 800 feet long. Yes, everyone lived, good job. But I'll say it again, there is no need to compound an already bad situation by eliminating options. Shut them down after you get the mains on if you like, but the airplane will need fixing anyway.
What would "landing long" do for you in this case. How about coming up short cause you don't have any power. My guess is you are a flight sim junkie trying to pas yourself off as a pilot. I have been flying for over 10 years, I am a furloughed airline pilot and I have quite a few hours in the Cessna 310. Bottom line, there are seven different ways to skin a cat, I would not have shut them down, that is my school of thought. But don't tell someone they have no clue when you have no clue.
Well, I am not the one on trying to be the Youtube tough guy know it all peter pilot, like yourself. Go to the FAA wesbsite, do a search for pilots, look in Nebraska for the last name Reedy. I am the only one with that name. You will plainly see then I am in fact a commercial licensed pilot with a EMB - 145 SIC type from the airline that furloughed my ass 6 months ago. Get over it. Let me know when you actually fly a 310, I got my ME in one.
My dad watched this video yesterday and agrees that they should have left the engines going. And after 19 years in the sky, Im almost 100% sure that hes forgot more about flying that most of you still know today.
Thank you and your dad for the objective view. Any pilot worth his or her salt knows that you do not want to eliminate your options, especially in an emergency.
Lots of comments on the subject, but having been in this situation personally, I have to agree with joecessna182. I put my 310Q on its nose at Oakland Int. on Feb 8th 2008 after a nosegear linkage failure (common 310 problem unfortunately) and left my poor Contis running until the mains were on. I had an hour and a half to think about it as I flew around burning fuel and trying to get gear lock, and I wasn't at all comfortable, especially under the stress I was, taking a go-around off the table.
Incidentally, it's entirely possible to get the screws stopped before the nose settles. I came in ~5 KIAS faster than the POH suggests and had them cut, feathered and stopped dead with the fuel and master off before the grinding started. With McCauley three-blades though, there was no way to keep them from striking unfortunately. Took the better part of a year to get the old girl patched up once the finger point began...
You people honestly call yourselves pilots? I mean come on. Gliders glide to safe landings everyday without engines... if he has 7000 feet of runway in a twin small plane, there is no reason why once he has the runway made he can't cut the engines... he doesn't need a go around because he could land 3 times before running out of runway! I completely disagree with the people that say a pilot shouldn't do this, especially the way he landed. Barely even took up 10 feet of the actual runway...
TheMeslava 4 months ago
Great Landing....
travelguy008 1 year ago
excelente, bravo, excelente piloto trata en medio de una emergencia de salvar los motores y las helices, muy buena maniobra a muy poca altura...
piloto1324 2 years ago
I love how these guys try to save the engines by shutting them down. Good way to screw yourself if you have to go around. Don't compound an already bad situation by removing even more options.
joecessna182 2 years ago
Joe cessna 182 yes your the average joe who flies a single probable a 182, these guys had an emergency and as in the regulations first saved the souls aboard then saved their vessel, no sparks from running engines or prop strikes and they did this all on a runway that air force one has landed on only 8,000 feet you can hardly call them average joes! Good work guys a credit to aviation.
MrPilotmike 2 years ago
To correct your assumption sir, I am actaully a pilot of 10 years, with many years of professional flying singles, light twins and jet aircraft alike. This pilot would have done a very poor job of saving the people on board had something happened to where a go-around were required. Engines and props are replaceable, people are not. That is why airplanes have insurance. Do not turn one small emergency into something worse by eliminating options.
joecessna182 2 years ago
What go around they had an 8,000 ft runway, engines and props are replaceable, heads and limbs are not if they are hit by a prop from a running engine or cause a fire. You seem to be the only person on you tube to think they did a bad job. (get real!)
MrPilotmike 2 years ago
Runway length in now way determines whether or not you will need to go around. Wind Shear, aircraft or vehicle coming out on the runway, ny number of things could require a go around no matter whether the runway is 8,000 feet long or 800 feet long. Yes, everyone lived, good job. But I'll say it again, there is no need to compound an already bad situation by eliminating options. Shut them down after you get the mains on if you like, but the airplane will need fixing anyway.
joecessna182 2 years ago
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ddrummond87 2 years ago
What would "landing long" do for you in this case. How about coming up short cause you don't have any power. My guess is you are a flight sim junkie trying to pas yourself off as a pilot. I have been flying for over 10 years, I am a furloughed airline pilot and I have quite a few hours in the Cessna 310. Bottom line, there are seven different ways to skin a cat, I would not have shut them down, that is my school of thought. But don't tell someone they have no clue when you have no clue.
joecessna182 2 years ago
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ddrummond87 2 years ago
Well, I am not the one on trying to be the Youtube tough guy know it all peter pilot, like yourself. Go to the FAA wesbsite, do a search for pilots, look in Nebraska for the last name Reedy. I am the only one with that name. You will plainly see then I am in fact a commercial licensed pilot with a EMB - 145 SIC type from the airline that furloughed my ass 6 months ago. Get over it. Let me know when you actually fly a 310, I got my ME in one.
joecessna182 2 years ago
Hey bud, I agree with joecessna182.
My dad watched this video yesterday and agrees that they should have left the engines going. And after 19 years in the sky, Im almost 100% sure that hes forgot more about flying that most of you still know today.
habs4114 2 years ago
Thank you and your dad for the objective view. Any pilot worth his or her salt knows that you do not want to eliminate your options, especially in an emergency.
joecessna182 2 years ago
Lots of comments on the subject, but having been in this situation personally, I have to agree with joecessna182. I put my 310Q on its nose at Oakland Int. on Feb 8th 2008 after a nosegear linkage failure (common 310 problem unfortunately) and left my poor Contis running until the mains were on. I had an hour and a half to think about it as I flew around burning fuel and trying to get gear lock, and I wasn't at all comfortable, especially under the stress I was, taking a go-around off the table.
TheSutekh 2 years ago
Incidentally, it's entirely possible to get the screws stopped before the nose settles. I came in ~5 KIAS faster than the POH suggests and had them cut, feathered and stopped dead with the fuel and master off before the grinding started. With McCauley three-blades though, there was no way to keep them from striking unfortunately. Took the better part of a year to get the old girl patched up once the finger point began...
TheSutekh 2 years ago
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ddrummond87 2 years ago
Perfect safe Emergency landing!
Saved the engines, barely bumped the props!
BIGTAZ351 3 years ago
Cessna 310, flew it once, not my favourite aircraft though
staaaajn 3 years ago
Amazing Landing!!!
InkedParrot 3 years ago
GREAT! Landing!
Jamalje 3 years ago 2
good job!
Farbog 3 years ago