On October 16, 1940 Nazi, Hans M. Frank, Governor-General of the German General Government of the "Occupied Territories" in Poland, (Generalgouverneur Für Die Besetzten Polnischen Gebiete), establishes the Warsaw Ghetto for 400,000 Jews crammed in 1.3 sq. miles
He is recorded as having stated to his Cabinet;
'Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourself of pity. We must annihilate the Jews'
On November 16, 1940 Nazi, SS-Obergruppenführer Odilo L. Globocnik of the General Government directs the ghetto to be "Blockaded from the Outside World" and walled in
He is recorded as having stated;
'I will not recoil from radical interventions for the solution of Jewish questions'
'The Jews should feed themselves and be supported by their countrymen, as these Jews have enough. If this does not succeed, one should let them starve'
On January 18, 1943 Nazi "Defense Forces" (Verteidigung Zwingt) assault the ghetto for the first time, knowing that there will be little resistance from the jewish population. Nazi military incursions continue thereafter for a period of three months, between mid-January and mid-April, justified by jewish "Armed Resistance" who came to be dubbed "Terrorists" (Terroristen)
Between April 19 and April 23, 1943 Nazi, SS-Brigadeführer Jürgen Stroop, conducts the final attack, and proceeds to systematically & indiscriminately murder Jewish civilians, as well as burn or blow up residential buildings, schools, and synagogues, block by block
He later prepares a detailed record of the operation entitled 'The Jewish Quarter of Warsaw is No More' (Das jüdische Viertel von Warschau ist Nein Mehr), commonly referred to as 'The Stroop Report' (Der Stroop Bericht) in which he additionally describes extensive atrocities which were justified militarily
He is quoted as saying;
'We have fed them Lead' (Wir Haben Sie Führen Zugeführt)
Is your point you want israel to do nothing while rockets are shot into Israel almost every day. Why?
If palestinians are peaceful people, why dont they arrest terrorists and charge them with a crime? Instead, we see them glorifying martyrs and suicide bombers.
You wont stop this conflict by beating on victims of islamic jihad (israel). You either demand palestinian society do SOMETHING, ANYTHING, about terrorism, or let israel protect itself.
I want the Israeli and American dogs, dogs (which supported) say it will come a day where you will x be paying a high price there for the crimes against civilians.
Ich möchte den Israelischen Hunden und Amerikanischen Hunden (die das unterstützten) sagen, es wird der Tag x kommen wo Sie dafür einen hohen Preis zahlen werden für die Verbrechen gegen die Menchen dort.
Show me one instance other than Israel where ONE country has STOPPED fighting in war to allow doctors in. Please read the posts you are replying to in the future
@msitz17 You do know that when Mads Gilbert is in Gaza the war is going on right? The war isnt stopped. And besides, even if it was (which it wasnt) what a compleatly retarded point. The war has no justification, thus stopping it should be REQUIRED not honoured.
This is an opinion, not a fact. And just because you dont understand why others perpetuate this war doesnt mean there is no justification. It just means you dont understand their justification.
Lets try and put this conflict into context.
watch?v=2lXOadrjpYU
If you want understanding, you have to understand other cultures moral teachings, and not project your on them to form opinions.
The clip I showed you points out that this conflict is hardly unique in the world. There are many other conflicts going on and they are all eerily similar.
If you learn about mohammad and islam, you will find understanding of why they are similar. Its the nature of islam to foster hatred and violence against others.
Just because not every muslim sinks to this level doesnt mean this is not what islam preaches, or that terrorism should be ignored.
@berenjervin Thank you for ignoring all the points and trying to change the debate. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STATED THAT ISRAEL STOPS THE WAR TO LET DOCTORS IN. Do you realise that you stated that? They dont stop it, they dont. Thats a fact.
And the war is without justification. Hamaz has one demand, and that is for Israel to go back to the old borders. I dont give a shit what religion they have.
I said no such thing - go look. All my posts are right in front of you.
>I dont give a shit what religion they have.
Its hard to argue with self imposed ignorance. I'm telling you, you can shout your OPINIONS based on ignorance all day long, and you will never understand this conflict.
Without understanding, you are just noise in the debate.
It's obvious that some people are sill unaware of what is going on in Gaza. Those people are sitting at home and say what the media has sent to them and claim that they know something. This doctor is a great person, he fights for human rights and for the truth. Just one word to the people who are being still with israeil missiles on gaza ,,, don't open ur mouth till u go and see the truth urself.
Are you even aware of what is going on in Palestine. Are you aware that the land that was offered to Palestine was the pitiful parts, with limited resources, which would allow Israel to control the economic as well as geographical areas of Palestine.
dude,,, dont you get it! there is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS MASSACRE! if this happens to your children or your family im sure you'll react differently. what is happening in palestine is tragic, its a humanitarian crisis...people are dying in the most disgusting of ways, dont tell me where the money is, I just see where the missiles are going. It needs to stop!
Since 2001 over 12,000 missiles have been sent from Gaza, since last year 194 have been sent. Most of the people killed in Gaza were Hamas militants who used children and women as human shields. Do the deaths of Israeli children who are deliberately targetted don't count?
The number of people killed in Gaza since 2001 are 7000...not including those who died from friendly fire or inability to access medical care due to road closures.
israel has more people dying due to suicide than actually being targeted by Hamas.
The israeli army bombs schools, pharmacies, UN shelters and then claims ages later that it was a "mistake". Throwing bombs randomly is not considered deliberate?
If they suspect there's someone from hamas, that gives them the right to bomb everywhere??
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Israel phoned Gaza and told people what they were going to target. However Hamas herded people into these places because basically they don't give a sh*t about their own people. Propaganda is very important to these low-lifes.....to fool people like you.
Oh sorry..I'm moving out my house..to go umm where?? where do they go!
and yeah im just going to be cool with someone bombing my house and throwing away everything i own and live for...they "called".
You're hopeless...there is no justification for what is happening, none whatsoever,, there are body parts children burnt with white phosphorus, houses covered with bullet holes, orphans, widows, thousands of parents having to bury their own children with their own hands...(oh right, they "called")
Today in the Irish times of Hamas practising explosions in Khan Younis. There is no justification for holding Gilad Schalit, there is no justification in sending missiles to Sederot and now Ashkelon. There was no justification for getting mentally retarded and simpletons to be suicide bombers. If Hamas was able to get white phosphorus they would have no hesitation in using it. Also the Goldstone report also says Hamas should ALSO BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES!!!!
@irishxxkelt Hamas fired 400 piece of shit rockets and killed only one israeli who happened to be an Arab Muslim. War crimes my ass. Their rockets are so bad they can't hit you correctly from 10 meters away. Stupid zionist fag.
@18WhiteKnight Funny how much damage they do. Try telling that nonsense about them being "crap" as you state to the people of Sederot and to the kibbutnikim of Nir-Am where I lived for 7 and 1/2 months.
@irishxxkelt So are you Catholic or Jewish? I am confused. I must remind you that Sederot is occupied territory that belongs to the inhabitants of Palestine, aka the Arab Muslims, Christians, and Jews, NOT Eastern European trash and Catholic drunks. Do you want to hear a ratio 1000:1 That's how many Palestinians die for every Jew. Yea babe, those rockets are pretty dam shit, and ironically the Israelis that have died were arab israelis. Cry me a river babe.
@18WhiteKnight May I remind you the Jews left Gaza, the settlements, literally dragging and kciking. However the farmer hoped the glasshouses would be used. Instead the glasshouses and home and especially the synagogues were thrashed. Land for peace? What a sick joke and people are now turning against Hamas. I have a friend in Gaza and he says that Hamas are criminals. Recently they destroyed the UN summer camps for kids as being un-Islamic.
@18WhiteKnight Also John Ging an Irishman who is in charge of the UN food programme received 3 bullets as a warning. He has a bodyguard already. That shows what Hamas think of him . Wonder what the payback will be when Iran takes over and instead of Sunni Islam Gaza has Shia Islam?
@18WhiteKnight You are an ignorant racist bigot How dare you call East Europeans and Catholics drunks? I have seen more home brew and dope smoked in North Africa and the Middle East.
@irishxxkelt The ironic part is you are probably the fat jewish kid from my calculus class that fears the ground we arabs walk on and can't dare say a word to us face to face, but on his social networks, he runs his mouth about how he can kick ass. I would be quiet if I were because face to face, you are nothing but a weak little helpless pussy. Talk big behind your computer, but let's see you talk face to face. I would love to see your military fight without US support!!!!!
@18WhiteKnight Considering I am Irish and was brought up as a Catholic and was always peitite. I have Arab friends all over the Middle East and in Ireland if you know where that is. I am a 54 woman and 5 foot. Even my husband says I am one of the bravest peoples he knows. I wouldn't be afraid of some fat Arab kid who I could scare by letting a roar out of me........................
@irishxxkelt And considering I am an Arab Greek Orthodox Christian, I was brought up by the real message of God and Christ, and not the fake message that you and your church lives. If you are a real Catholic, you would know the real message of Christ, and you would know that Israelis are fascist Nazis that could care less for Judaism. They are power hungry dogs, and there days are numbered. I know you're type. You live with fear in your heart. You are weak and insecure. Poor lady I pity u
@18WhiteKnight Well I don't care what church you belong to but it is a sin to hate anyone especially the Jews.Jesus was a Jew. You know damn all about me. So stop making ignorant comments. I am born-again and all hell cannot stop me. Even in Syria I am considered a strong woman and I could teach Arab women to stand up for themselves. Keep you pity for the Palestinians, they thrive on it.
@irishxxkelt Irish lady, you speak with a loud voice trying to hide your fear. Look at me. I speak calmly and confidently, because I am an Arab, a proud and honorable one, and I fear nothing but God himself. You talk big behind the screen, but in real life, you aren't worth the fight and you aren't worth the time because you are a pathetic woman. Has Catholicism taught you that murdering woman and children and oppressing an entire race as a justified thing. Go behind your screen n shut up
@18WhiteKnight FEAR? Islam teaches people that it is a good thing to murder non-Muslims. Do you need the verses? Do you need to know where it states that Mohammed had a woman killed while she was breast-feeding?
@irishxxkelt Ok stop taking weapons from the US and let's see you fight an equal fight......It doesn't count when a 5 foot 3 150 pound kid flies an F 16 and shoots down on innocent Palestinian woman and children. That's called fear and pussiness. Come on Irish lady, I'm 6 foot 1 210 pounds. Let's see one of your bitches take me on face to face.
@18WhiteKnight Are you so ignorant that you have no idea what my nick means? I am Irish from Ireland and we Irish are not in a war. Pussiness? What sort of word is that? Is it a state of being a cat as in pussy cat? You want to come over to Ireland to debate with me or cut my head off?
@18WhiteKnight Considering that you are not Maori aren't you occupying the Land of the Long Cloud? It seems to me that it is a case of the kettle calling the pot black.
You want to fight with a 5 foot woman? We have big lads here too if you want to take on someone closer to your own size?
@irishxxkelt Wooooooooooooooow. 8 comments. What the heck????? Do you not work or something or do you just sit infront of Youtube asking to be knocked out by some 21 year old Med students. Look lady, I have an exam on the muscles of the upper body monday so you seriously are a waste of time. First of all, Arabs don't need you or your pity. We pity you for being an Irish drunk too dumb too think on her own. ALL Arab woman are better than you in every way, all all Arabs are better than u
@18WhiteKnight I live in house in the countryside. I have a big garden. I volunteer for 2 mornings in the Police Reserve and I teach Latin as an extra-curricular subject. Like I say why are you occupying the land of the Maori? I do not drink alcohol. Like I say you would see loads of booze and hash in the Middle East. I am proud that one of our Syrian friends said I could teach Arab women to stand up for themselves.
I don't care if you have muscles where your brain should be judging by your comments about someone you don't even know. I suggest you ease up on the steroids. As I said give your pity to the Palestinians........they thrive on it.
No sense in arguing with brainwashed homicidal maniacs that CONDONE and approve of the ethnic cleansing of an innocent population. This breed is incorrigable - you'd have better luck talking to a brick wall.
Free Palestine from Terrorist Israel - from an unbrainwashed American!!! The US has been in bed with Israel far too long and it MUST stop for there to ever be peace.
@irishxxkelt And second of all, before I write this, know this: Good will prevail over evil, and the fascist Nazi state of Israel will fall hard and all the filth will go back to Eastern Europe and Ireland where it came from. Third of all, Syrians are superior to you in education, culture, history, art, literature, and civilization so rest assured no one will admire you. Third of all, you haven't read the Quran to talk shit. You need to wash your mouth cause nonsense rubbish is flowing out
@18WhiteKnight How would you know what good is? You hate Jews and Israelis and you dare call yourself a Christian? Why don't you back to Syria and stop occupying the land of the Maori? Nazis came from Ireland? Are you nuts? Ever hear of Copernicus, Chopin and Madame Curé? They were all Poles.It was the Irish who saved Western Civilsation? Ever hear of the Dark Ages? It was the Irish who founded monasteries in Europe the first universities. Ireland was known as the Land of Saints and Scholars.
@18WhiteKnight The Syrians are a cultured race and a charming people as I have visited Syria 4 times and have had a Syrian in my home but it was the Irish who saved cilvilisation. Go read Thomas Kennelly's book "How the Irish saved Civilization". I have my grandfather's Koran and it was translated by a clergyman who showed what parts of the Talmud and Midrasch Moh. used for various verses in the Koran.
well, sderot is recognized as illegal settlement, so y should we display a concern over its eurpean and north american inhabitants who voluntarily came to the mid east for being convinced that they a re a master race and the chosen ppl of God. they can return to their home countries and live in freedom and democracy w.o fear of being harrased.
Well, I'll refrain from entering into a theological or eucumenical discussion on religion in general. I will play along on the assumtion that God exists, and that what's written in the books isn't more than badly written folktales. Sure, the Tora does say that the land is promised to the Jews, but the state of Israel should not come to be until the messiah walks the earth. Since the Jews does not recognize Jesus as the messiah, nor should the land be under rule by the Jews.
And even that plagirised book the Koran says that Israel belongs to the Jews............. There are many many Jews who recognise Jesus as the Messiah. Surely you heard of Jews for Jesus?
@yadda79 Naturei Karta live in Israel with all the benefits of living in a modern country. I would like to see them living in mud villages like I saw in Egypt,not a million miles from the tourist resort of Luxor!!!
@irishxxkelt Uhm, don't know what you're on about - other than stating some sort of rethoric. Sure, I could agree upon that I might be counter productive to allign oneself with that which seeks to destroy you. But this would be under the assumtion that any and all non-jews in the region are militant extremists with the intent to dominate the world under Sharia law. The extreme contrast you portray, would imply that the palistinians and jews in the region cannot cooperate and build something.
@yadda79 Look the reality is nobody wants the Palestinians. Other Arabs despiese the Palestinians and treat them as second class citizens. The Palestinians are being enslaved by the likes of Hamas who in turn are doing what Iran tells them to. Yes there are many inte Arab-Jewish groups who try to heal the wounds. However the media stirs up the hatred.
@irishxxkelt Usually I would agree with you, that the media has to take a big part of the blame in many cases. This isn't one of them. The hatred is being stirred pefectly up by Israel themselves, regardless of motives to defend themselves. Sure, they're surrounded by nations that would sooner let the whole country burn without even pissing in their general direction in to avoid any possible relief that may cause. But Hamas does not constitute that big of a threat as the others do...
@irishxxkelt ...furthermore the power base of Hamas isn't the general "hatred of the west", Israel is it's greatest enemy and it's greatest ally. Without anyone to round the Palestinians up once in a while, fence them in, slap a blockade on them, and then bomb them to smitherines, tear down their buildings, roads, infrastructure, I'd guess most Palestinians would try to build a life for themselves and their children. But when you have no hope, you have nothing to loose...
@yadda79 It is the general hatred of anything that isn't fundamental Islam. As Golda Meyer said and this was way before sending children off to blow themselves and others to peices;" When Arabs love their children more than they hate Israel then there might be peace".
@irishxxkelt ...and how do you suppose we remedy this attidude? Perhaps we should influence the ruling body in Gaza to implement better pratices at their schools? Perhaps influence the people get a higher education, or educate themselves on the web? Oh, no wait.. schools are blown away, there is no infrastructure, and they're fenced in... What do you think they will learn? They'll get their teachings from Israels actions. Now watch Gilberts vid here once more, and see what they'll learn...
@yadda79 Maybe if Hamas started acting like a proper government instead of taking all the stuff coming and giving it among their members and supporters, if they stopped acting like the Taliban . Allow the UN to run proper summer camps instead of Jihadi camps for little children. Stop threatening John Ging and let him do his job. Stop preaching about taking over Rome and threatening death and destruction on Israel.
@irishxxkelt BTW, interesting you use Golda Mabovitch later Meyerson and then Meir as an example. Many would regard her, and her generation, in addition to European and American ignorance after the war - a big contribution to the problem. MABOVITCH, a Ukranian emigrant who left for the States with her family, and a person who was part of the process of establishing Israel, had no roots in the Middle-East - but found it convenient to opress another people after they themselves had been opressed.
@yadda79 Golda never used Mabovitch. Her family suffered persecution in Ukraine though she referred to it as Russia. By the way Arabs have killed more Arabs than Israel ever killed Palestinians.
@irishxxkelt No I ask you please to not make up fallacies. If you haven't read the Quran don't make up shit. The torah says that Jews are not permitted to have a state of their own and that they must live in exile and amongst the people of the world. Go ask one of your rabbis. They aren't going to deny it. And since when the fuck did God become a real estate agent? No land was ever promised to anyone, that's just fallacies Zionists made up. Zionist are heretics just like YOU
@18WhiteKnight I have forgotten more about Islam than most Muslims will ever know. I have 2 Korans and neither make any sense. The Torah is rabbinical opinion. MY RABBIS? Do you know anything about Ireland? Do you think we have Rabbis all over the place? God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Even Mo.ordered his followers to consult the O.T and the N.T. The Koran says that Israel belongs to the Jews.
NO-it is NOT OK and there is NO Justification for any one to target and terrorize innocent people!
During Israel's assault on Gaza, "Washington provided F-16 fighter planes, Apache helicopters, tactical missiles, and a wide array of munitions, including white phosphorus and DIME. The weapons required for the Israeli assault was decided upon in June 2008 and approved by Congress in September: prior to any claims of Hamas cease fire violation!"
PS: Both my comments are directed to: merlett and any other without a heart for the innocent caught in the crossfire of violence in the so called 'holy' land which is in pieces: BANTUSTANS!
How dare you compare the two: an occupied nation who lives in an open prison with no access to food/water and basic necessities and the Israelis who have kicked countless families outof their houses and occupied them by force?
You only have to check the official stats on the death toll to see how disproportionate the deaths are and the at those of Palestininas are far more in hundreds that those of israelis.
Shame on the media for labeling 10,000 aerial assaults with F16 fighters as simply an "incursion". It is an outright genocidal attack.
Israel has done a double crime. Killed innocent in genocidal terrorist methods, AND utilized its corporate giants and propaganda machines to lie about it and get away with it.
But no. By the One in who's hand lies my soul, they will not get away with it.
The most touching part of this video was the end bit. "They are voiceless"
I have two comments to make. Most of the things that happen in Palestine we don't even hear or know about. Israel bans media to enter certain locations for prolonged periods of time. We can't really hear or see what happens most of the time.
The second thing is that it is up to us. Humans elsewhere, who have been blessed by the internet and social networks to raise awareness about Palestine. Please, all, try to do so.
I heard Dr. Gilbert lecture in Vancouver last night along with Dr. George Bisharat and Joanne Naiman. I agree with you 100% that the only thing slowing down massive wolrdwide support of the Palestinian people is lack of awareness. It's a small step, but this video gets posted to my Facebook profile in the next 5 minutes and I encourage anyone who has an account with a social networking site to do the same.
Its not just Muslims that are angry, Nadia, it is anyone with a conscience, any human who is disgusted by a humanitarian catastrophe inflicted by a terrorist state against a defenseless mostly civilian besieged population. Shame on Israel, shame on Egypt, and shame on the USA for being direct culprits in this, and shame on the rest of the world for allowing it to happen!
Children slaughtered, villages pillaged, corrupt representatives, diminishing allies, ignorant world view, propaganda filled minds, a tragedy. That is why Nadia. We need to get this message out to people all over the world. People must know about this, they must.
Liar, or no liar. Mute the audio. Watch the videos and images. You'd be nothing more than a cold blooded machine if you don't feel the pain these people are being put in.
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FOR THE HISTORICAL RECORD:
On October 16, 1940 Nazi, Hans M. Frank, Governor-General of the German General Government of the "Occupied Territories" in Poland, (Generalgouverneur Für Die Besetzten Polnischen Gebiete), establishes the Warsaw Ghetto for 400,000 Jews crammed in 1.3 sq. miles
He is recorded as having stated to his Cabinet;
'Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourself of pity. We must annihilate the Jews'
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Part I
On November 16, 1940 Nazi, SS-Obergruppenführer Odilo L. Globocnik of the General Government directs the ghetto to be "Blockaded from the Outside World" and walled in
He is recorded as having stated;
'I will not recoil from radical interventions for the solution of Jewish questions'
'The Jews should feed themselves and be supported by their countrymen, as these Jews have enough. If this does not succeed, one should let them starve'
bassammaelborno 1 month ago
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Part II
On January 18, 1943 Nazi "Defense Forces" (Verteidigung Zwingt) assault the ghetto for the first time, knowing that there will be little resistance from the jewish population. Nazi military incursions continue thereafter for a period of three months, between mid-January and mid-April, justified by jewish "Armed Resistance" who came to be dubbed "Terrorists" (Terroristen)
bassammaelborno 1 month ago
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Part III
Between April 19 and April 23, 1943 Nazi, SS-Brigadeführer Jürgen Stroop, conducts the final attack, and proceeds to systematically & indiscriminately murder Jewish civilians, as well as burn or blow up residential buildings, schools, and synagogues, block by block
bassammaelborno 1 month ago
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Part IV
He later prepares a detailed record of the operation entitled 'The Jewish Quarter of Warsaw is No More' (Das jüdische Viertel von Warschau ist Nein Mehr), commonly referred to as 'The Stroop Report' (Der Stroop Bericht) in which he additionally describes extensive atrocities which were justified militarily
He is quoted as saying;
'We have fed them Lead' (Wir Haben Sie Führen Zugeführt)
Indeed, Zionists learned well.
bassammaelborno 1 month ago
Is your point you want israel to do nothing while rockets are shot into Israel almost every day. Why?
If palestinians are peaceful people, why dont they arrest terrorists and charge them with a crime? Instead, we see them glorifying martyrs and suicide bombers.
You wont stop this conflict by beating on victims of islamic jihad (israel). You either demand palestinian society do SOMETHING, ANYTHING, about terrorism, or let israel protect itself.
berenjervin 1 month ago
I want the Israeli and American dogs, dogs (which supported) say it will come a day where you will x be paying a high price there for the crimes against civilians.
dreambox7 5 months ago
Ich möchte den Israelischen Hunden und Amerikanischen Hunden (die das unterstützten) sagen, es wird der Tag x kommen wo Sie dafür einen hohen Preis zahlen werden für die Verbrechen gegen die Menchen dort.
dreambox7 5 months ago
beware the synagogue of satan. You will know them by they'r fruits.
Let he who is with understanding know the mark of the beast 666.
look at the Israeli flag you will see 666.
kaptainbastard 9 months ago
The worst man made disaster?
He lost all credibility right there!
msitz17 1 year ago
What other country stops war for periods of time to let aid in or let foreign doctors in?
NONE!
msitz17 1 year ago
@msitz17 Are you kidding. Doctors beyond borders have doctors in several war conflicted areas.
gulbirk 1 month ago
@gulbirk
Show me one instance other than Israel where ONE country has STOPPED fighting in war to allow doctors in. Please read the posts you are replying to in the future
msitz17 1 month ago
@msitz17 You do know that when Mads Gilbert is in Gaza the war is going on right? The war isnt stopped. And besides, even if it was (which it wasnt) what a compleatly retarded point. The war has no justification, thus stopping it should be REQUIRED not honoured.
gulbirk 1 month ago
@gulbirk
So what would you stop - the constant non stop terrorism against israel, or the ability of israel to defend itself?
berenjervin 1 month ago
@berenjervin For christ sake, you are the one who said it stopped, it doesnt. Israel is performing state terrorism, period.
gulbirk 1 month ago
@gulbirk
I asked you what YOU would stop.
You said...
>The war has no justification
This is an opinion, not a fact. And just because you dont understand why others perpetuate this war doesnt mean there is no justification. It just means you dont understand their justification.
Lets try and put this conflict into context.
watch?v=2lXOadrjpYU
If you want understanding, you have to understand other cultures moral teachings, and not project your on them to form opinions.
berenjervin 1 month ago
@gulbirk
The clip I showed you points out that this conflict is hardly unique in the world. There are many other conflicts going on and they are all eerily similar.
If you learn about mohammad and islam, you will find understanding of why they are similar. Its the nature of islam to foster hatred and violence against others.
Just because not every muslim sinks to this level doesnt mean this is not what islam preaches, or that terrorism should be ignored.
berenjervin 1 month ago
@berenjervin Thank you for ignoring all the points and trying to change the debate. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STATED THAT ISRAEL STOPS THE WAR TO LET DOCTORS IN. Do you realise that you stated that? They dont stop it, they dont. Thats a fact.
And the war is without justification. Hamaz has one demand, and that is for Israel to go back to the old borders. I dont give a shit what religion they have.
gulbirk 1 month ago
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@gulbirk
>YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STATED
I said no such thing - go look. All my posts are right in front of you.
>I dont give a shit what religion they have.
Its hard to argue with self imposed ignorance. I'm telling you, you can shout your OPINIONS based on ignorance all day long, and you will never understand this conflict.
Without understanding, you are just noise in the debate.
berenjervin 1 month ago
Hey, can anyone tell me what the song at the end of this video is called?
dalebguy 2 years ago
It's obvious that some people are sill unaware of what is going on in Gaza. Those people are sitting at home and say what the media has sent to them and claim that they know something. This doctor is a great person, he fights for human rights and for the truth. Just one word to the people who are being still with israeil missiles on gaza ,,, don't open ur mouth till u go and see the truth urself.
OurLandish 2 years ago
God bless this doctor and all those speaking out.
Shame on terrorist Israel.
Viva Palestina!
PillagingPlunderers 2 years ago
Are you even aware of what is going on in Palestine. Are you aware that the land that was offered to Palestine was the pitiful parts, with limited resources, which would allow Israel to control the economic as well as geographical areas of Palestine.
drayan312 2 years ago
The Palestinian could have had their state except as Clinton described Arafat "lying son of a bitch" at the last moment refused to sign for peace.
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
Get lost Zionist.
The Zionist Third Reich must be destroyed!
petersz98 2 years ago 2
Yeah,,,and that TOTALLY gives us the right to bomb and kill the people...
ARAFAT IS DEAD!
Why dont we just keep blaming him for killing 2 year olds, 3 year olds, 4 year olds, 5 year olds, 6 year olds, babies, teenagers...
NourClaireduLaLune 2 years ago 2
You should ask his weird widow where all the money is that was given for the people of Palestine!
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
dude,,, dont you get it! there is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS MASSACRE! if this happens to your children or your family im sure you'll react differently. what is happening in palestine is tragic, its a humanitarian crisis...people are dying in the most disgusting of ways, dont tell me where the money is, I just see where the missiles are going. It needs to stop!
NourClaireduLaLune 2 years ago 3
Since 2001 over 12,000 missiles have been sent from Gaza, since last year 194 have been sent. Most of the people killed in Gaza were Hamas militants who used children and women as human shields. Do the deaths of Israeli children who are deliberately targetted don't count?
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
The number of people killed in Gaza since 2001 are 7000...not including those who died from friendly fire or inability to access medical care due to road closures.
israel has more people dying due to suicide than actually being targeted by Hamas.
The israeli army bombs schools, pharmacies, UN shelters and then claims ages later that it was a "mistake". Throwing bombs randomly is not considered deliberate?
If they suspect there's someone from hamas, that gives them the right to bomb everywhere??
NourClaireduLaLune 2 years ago 2
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Israel phoned Gaza and told people what they were going to target. However Hamas herded people into these places because basically they don't give a sh*t about their own people. Propaganda is very important to these low-lifes.....to fool people like you.
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
Oh sorry..I'm moving out my house..to go umm where?? where do they go!
and yeah im just going to be cool with someone bombing my house and throwing away everything i own and live for...they "called".
You're hopeless...there is no justification for what is happening, none whatsoever,, there are body parts children burnt with white phosphorus, houses covered with bullet holes, orphans, widows, thousands of parents having to bury their own children with their own hands...(oh right, they "called")
NourClaireduLaLune 2 years ago 3
Today in the Irish times of Hamas practising explosions in Khan Younis. There is no justification for holding Gilad Schalit, there is no justification in sending missiles to Sederot and now Ashkelon. There was no justification for getting mentally retarded and simpletons to be suicide bombers. If Hamas was able to get white phosphorus they would have no hesitation in using it. Also the Goldstone report also says Hamas should ALSO BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES!!!!
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
@irishxxkelt Hamas fired 400 piece of shit rockets and killed only one israeli who happened to be an Arab Muslim. War crimes my ass. Their rockets are so bad they can't hit you correctly from 10 meters away. Stupid zionist fag.
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight Funny how much damage they do. Try telling that nonsense about them being "crap" as you state to the people of Sederot and to the kibbutnikim of Nir-Am where I lived for 7 and 1/2 months.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt So are you Catholic or Jewish? I am confused. I must remind you that Sederot is occupied territory that belongs to the inhabitants of Palestine, aka the Arab Muslims, Christians, and Jews, NOT Eastern European trash and Catholic drunks. Do you want to hear a ratio 1000:1 That's how many Palestinians die for every Jew. Yea babe, those rockets are pretty dam shit, and ironically the Israelis that have died were arab israelis. Cry me a river babe.
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight May I remind you the Jews left Gaza, the settlements, literally dragging and kciking. However the farmer hoped the glasshouses would be used. Instead the glasshouses and home and especially the synagogues were thrashed. Land for peace? What a sick joke and people are now turning against Hamas. I have a friend in Gaza and he says that Hamas are criminals. Recently they destroyed the UN summer camps for kids as being un-Islamic.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight Also John Ging an Irishman who is in charge of the UN food programme received 3 bullets as a warning. He has a bodyguard already. That shows what Hamas think of him . Wonder what the payback will be when Iran takes over and instead of Sunni Islam Gaza has Shia Islam?
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight You are an ignorant racist bigot How dare you call East Europeans and Catholics drunks? I have seen more home brew and dope smoked in North Africa and the Middle East.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt The ironic part is you are probably the fat jewish kid from my calculus class that fears the ground we arabs walk on and can't dare say a word to us face to face, but on his social networks, he runs his mouth about how he can kick ass. I would be quiet if I were because face to face, you are nothing but a weak little helpless pussy. Talk big behind your computer, but let's see you talk face to face. I would love to see your military fight without US support!!!!!
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight Considering I am Irish and was brought up as a Catholic and was always peitite. I have Arab friends all over the Middle East and in Ireland if you know where that is. I am a 54 woman and 5 foot. Even my husband says I am one of the bravest peoples he knows. I wouldn't be afraid of some fat Arab kid who I could scare by letting a roar out of me........................
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt And considering I am an Arab Greek Orthodox Christian, I was brought up by the real message of God and Christ, and not the fake message that you and your church lives. If you are a real Catholic, you would know the real message of Christ, and you would know that Israelis are fascist Nazis that could care less for Judaism. They are power hungry dogs, and there days are numbered. I know you're type. You live with fear in your heart. You are weak and insecure. Poor lady I pity u
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight Well I don't care what church you belong to but it is a sin to hate anyone especially the Jews.Jesus was a Jew. You know damn all about me. So stop making ignorant comments. I am born-again and all hell cannot stop me. Even in Syria I am considered a strong woman and I could teach Arab women to stand up for themselves. Keep you pity for the Palestinians, they thrive on it.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt Irish lady, you speak with a loud voice trying to hide your fear. Look at me. I speak calmly and confidently, because I am an Arab, a proud and honorable one, and I fear nothing but God himself. You talk big behind the screen, but in real life, you aren't worth the fight and you aren't worth the time because you are a pathetic woman. Has Catholicism taught you that murdering woman and children and oppressing an entire race as a justified thing. Go behind your screen n shut up
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight FEAR? Islam teaches people that it is a good thing to murder non-Muslims. Do you need the verses? Do you need to know where it states that Mohammed had a woman killed while she was breast-feeding?
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight The IDF is one of the best armies in the world with or without American aid.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt Ok stop taking weapons from the US and let's see you fight an equal fight......It doesn't count when a 5 foot 3 150 pound kid flies an F 16 and shoots down on innocent Palestinian woman and children. That's called fear and pussiness. Come on Irish lady, I'm 6 foot 1 210 pounds. Let's see one of your bitches take me on face to face.
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight Are you so ignorant that you have no idea what my nick means? I am Irish from Ireland and we Irish are not in a war. Pussiness? What sort of word is that? Is it a state of being a cat as in pussy cat? You want to come over to Ireland to debate with me or cut my head off?
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight Considering that you are not Maori aren't you occupying the Land of the Long Cloud? It seems to me that it is a case of the kettle calling the pot black.
You want to fight with a 5 foot woman? We have big lads here too if you want to take on someone closer to your own size?
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt Wooooooooooooooow. 8 comments. What the heck????? Do you not work or something or do you just sit infront of Youtube asking to be knocked out by some 21 year old Med students. Look lady, I have an exam on the muscles of the upper body monday so you seriously are a waste of time. First of all, Arabs don't need you or your pity. We pity you for being an Irish drunk too dumb too think on her own. ALL Arab woman are better than you in every way, all all Arabs are better than u
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight I live in house in the countryside. I have a big garden. I volunteer for 2 mornings in the Police Reserve and I teach Latin as an extra-curricular subject. Like I say why are you occupying the land of the Maori? I do not drink alcohol. Like I say you would see loads of booze and hash in the Middle East. I am proud that one of our Syrian friends said I could teach Arab women to stand up for themselves.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
I don't care if you have muscles where your brain should be judging by your comments about someone you don't even know. I suggest you ease up on the steroids. As I said give your pity to the Palestinians........they thrive on it.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@NourClaireduLaLune
No sense in arguing with brainwashed homicidal maniacs that CONDONE and approve of the ethnic cleansing of an innocent population. This breed is incorrigable - you'd have better luck talking to a brick wall.
Free Palestine from Terrorist Israel - from an unbrainwashed American!!! The US has been in bed with Israel far too long and it MUST stop for there to ever be peace.
PillagingPlunderers 2 years ago
yeah i gave up on him....
talk about propaganda.
NourClaireduLaLune 2 years ago
@irishxxkelt And second of all, before I write this, know this: Good will prevail over evil, and the fascist Nazi state of Israel will fall hard and all the filth will go back to Eastern Europe and Ireland where it came from. Third of all, Syrians are superior to you in education, culture, history, art, literature, and civilization so rest assured no one will admire you. Third of all, you haven't read the Quran to talk shit. You need to wash your mouth cause nonsense rubbish is flowing out
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight How would you know what good is? You hate Jews and Israelis and you dare call yourself a Christian? Why don't you back to Syria and stop occupying the land of the Maori? Nazis came from Ireland? Are you nuts? Ever hear of Copernicus, Chopin and Madame Curé? They were all Poles.It was the Irish who saved Western Civilsation? Ever hear of the Dark Ages? It was the Irish who founded monasteries in Europe the first universities. Ireland was known as the Land of Saints and Scholars.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight The Syrians are a cultured race and a charming people as I have visited Syria 4 times and have had a Syrian in my home but it was the Irish who saved cilvilisation. Go read Thomas Kennelly's book "How the Irish saved Civilization". I have my grandfather's Koran and it was translated by a clergyman who showed what parts of the Talmud and Midrasch Moh. used for various verses in the Koran.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
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Not one word regarding the suffering of Isreali's in Sederot. HYPOCRITE!!!!!!
merlett 2 years ago
well, sderot is recognized as illegal settlement, so y should we display a concern over its eurpean and north american inhabitants who voluntarily came to the mid east for being convinced that they a re a master race and the chosen ppl of God. they can return to their home countries and live in freedom and democracy w.o fear of being harrased.
farouqnimer 2 years ago 3
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So that makes it ok for Hamas to fire rockets at civillians for 3 years? Allah says its ok then???
merlett 2 years ago
not ok to kill civilians. but still, they should return to europe.
farouqnimer 2 years ago
Why shoud the Israelis return to Europe when the land of Israel was promised to the Jews, even the Koran says that!
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
Well, I'll refrain from entering into a theological or eucumenical discussion on religion in general. I will play along on the assumtion that God exists, and that what's written in the books isn't more than badly written folktales. Sure, the Tora does say that the land is promised to the Jews, but the state of Israel should not come to be until the messiah walks the earth. Since the Jews does not recognize Jesus as the messiah, nor should the land be under rule by the Jews.
yadda79 2 years ago
And even that plagirised book the Koran says that Israel belongs to the Jews............. There are many many Jews who recognise Jesus as the Messiah. Surely you heard of Jews for Jesus?
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
Even parts of the Hasidic communities doesn't recognize the state of Israel...
yadda79 2 years ago
Rather hypocritical when they live in Jerusalem with all the benefits of civilization and freedom of religions.
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
@yadda79 Naturei Karta live in Israel with all the benefits of living in a modern country. I would like to see them living in mud villages like I saw in Egypt,not a million miles from the tourist resort of Luxor!!!
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt Uhm, don't know what you're on about - other than stating some sort of rethoric. Sure, I could agree upon that I might be counter productive to allign oneself with that which seeks to destroy you. But this would be under the assumtion that any and all non-jews in the region are militant extremists with the intent to dominate the world under Sharia law. The extreme contrast you portray, would imply that the palistinians and jews in the region cannot cooperate and build something.
yadda79 1 year ago
@yadda79 Look the reality is nobody wants the Palestinians. Other Arabs despiese the Palestinians and treat them as second class citizens. The Palestinians are being enslaved by the likes of Hamas who in turn are doing what Iran tells them to. Yes there are many inte Arab-Jewish groups who try to heal the wounds. However the media stirs up the hatred.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt Usually I would agree with you, that the media has to take a big part of the blame in many cases. This isn't one of them. The hatred is being stirred pefectly up by Israel themselves, regardless of motives to defend themselves. Sure, they're surrounded by nations that would sooner let the whole country burn without even pissing in their general direction in to avoid any possible relief that may cause. But Hamas does not constitute that big of a threat as the others do...
yadda79 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt ...furthermore the power base of Hamas isn't the general "hatred of the west", Israel is it's greatest enemy and it's greatest ally. Without anyone to round the Palestinians up once in a while, fence them in, slap a blockade on them, and then bomb them to smitherines, tear down their buildings, roads, infrastructure, I'd guess most Palestinians would try to build a life for themselves and their children. But when you have no hope, you have nothing to loose...
yadda79 1 year ago
@yadda79 It is the general hatred of anything that isn't fundamental Islam. As Golda Meyer said and this was way before sending children off to blow themselves and others to peices;" When Arabs love their children more than they hate Israel then there might be peace".
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt ...and how do you suppose we remedy this attidude? Perhaps we should influence the ruling body in Gaza to implement better pratices at their schools? Perhaps influence the people get a higher education, or educate themselves on the web? Oh, no wait.. schools are blown away, there is no infrastructure, and they're fenced in... What do you think they will learn? They'll get their teachings from Israels actions. Now watch Gilberts vid here once more, and see what they'll learn...
yadda79 1 year ago
@yadda79 Maybe if Hamas started acting like a proper government instead of taking all the stuff coming and giving it among their members and supporters, if they stopped acting like the Taliban . Allow the UN to run proper summer camps instead of Jihadi camps for little children. Stop threatening John Ging and let him do his job. Stop preaching about taking over Rome and threatening death and destruction on Israel.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt BTW, interesting you use Golda Mabovitch later Meyerson and then Meir as an example. Many would regard her, and her generation, in addition to European and American ignorance after the war - a big contribution to the problem. MABOVITCH, a Ukranian emigrant who left for the States with her family, and a person who was part of the process of establishing Israel, had no roots in the Middle-East - but found it convenient to opress another people after they themselves had been opressed.
yadda79 1 year ago
@yadda79 Golda never used Mabovitch. Her family suffered persecution in Ukraine though she referred to it as Russia. By the way Arabs have killed more Arabs than Israel ever killed Palestinians.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt I find as much weight in quotes from her as I do from the present government of Israel.
yadda79 1 year ago
@irishxxkelt No I ask you please to not make up fallacies. If you haven't read the Quran don't make up shit. The torah says that Jews are not permitted to have a state of their own and that they must live in exile and amongst the people of the world. Go ask one of your rabbis. They aren't going to deny it. And since when the fuck did God become a real estate agent? No land was ever promised to anyone, that's just fallacies Zionists made up. Zionist are heretics just like YOU
18WhiteKnight 1 year ago
@18WhiteKnight I have forgotten more about Islam than most Muslims will ever know. I have 2 Korans and neither make any sense. The Torah is rabbinical opinion. MY RABBIS? Do you know anything about Ireland? Do you think we have Rabbis all over the place? God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Even Mo.ordered his followers to consult the O.T and the N.T. The Koran says that Israel belongs to the Jews.
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
NO-it is NOT OK and there is NO Justification for any one to target and terrorize innocent people!
During Israel's assault on Gaza, "Washington provided F-16 fighter planes, Apache helicopters, tactical missiles, and a wide array of munitions, including white phosphorus and DIME. The weapons required for the Israeli assault was decided upon in June 2008 and approved by Congress in September: prior to any claims of Hamas cease fire violation!"
The REST: December 20, 2009 @ WeAreWideAwake
eileenfleming 2 years ago 3
PS: Both my comments are directed to: merlett and any other without a heart for the innocent caught in the crossfire of violence in the so called 'holy' land which is in pieces: BANTUSTANS!
eileenfleming 2 years ago 2
Palestinians have selective memory. Most of the land of Israel was BOUGHT from Turkish and Arab landowners.
irishxxkelt 2 years ago
@merlett
How dare you compare the two: an occupied nation who lives in an open prison with no access to food/water and basic necessities and the Israelis who have kicked countless families outof their houses and occupied them by force?
You only have to check the official stats on the death toll to see how disproportionate the deaths are and the at those of Palestininas are far more in hundreds that those of israelis.
The HYPOCRITE IS YOU.
Naima1217 2 years ago 10
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Naima sorry to tell you but Gaza is not occupied by Israel in any way. There is no IDF in Gaza or Israeli army in terrorist Hamas controlled Gaza.
As for disproportinate death toll? well its called war, so if the # were more even that would make you feel better?
Blame Hamas not Israel
merlett 2 years ago
HERE are a few WORDS that I Heard on June 9, 2009 during my Evening in Sederot:
"The only way to stop the rockets are to annihilate all the Arabs in Gaza."
The REST of what I heard and learned in Sederot was published first on June 9, 2009 @
WeAreWideAwake
eileenfleming 2 years ago 2
Shame on the media for labeling 10,000 aerial assaults with F16 fighters as simply an "incursion". It is an outright genocidal attack.
Israel has done a double crime. Killed innocent in genocidal terrorist methods, AND utilized its corporate giants and propaganda machines to lie about it and get away with it.
But no. By the One in who's hand lies my soul, they will not get away with it.
o0abdo0o 2 years ago 7
The most touching part of this video was the end bit. "They are voiceless"
I have two comments to make. Most of the things that happen in Palestine we don't even hear or know about. Israel bans media to enter certain locations for prolonged periods of time. We can't really hear or see what happens most of the time.
The second thing is that it is up to us. Humans elsewhere, who have been blessed by the internet and social networks to raise awareness about Palestine. Please, all, try to do so.
GuitaristontheFloor 2 years ago 5
I heard Dr. Gilbert lecture in Vancouver last night along with Dr. George Bisharat and Joanne Naiman. I agree with you 100% that the only thing slowing down massive wolrdwide support of the Palestinian people is lack of awareness. It's a small step, but this video gets posted to my Facebook profile in the next 5 minutes and I encourage anyone who has an account with a social networking site to do the same.
repsajuil1 2 years ago 5
Its not just Muslims that are angry, Nadia, it is anyone with a conscience, any human who is disgusted by a humanitarian catastrophe inflicted by a terrorist state against a defenseless mostly civilian besieged population. Shame on Israel, shame on Egypt, and shame on the USA for being direct culprits in this, and shame on the rest of the world for allowing it to happen!
haithemelzabri 2 years ago 2
I hope the world can even begin to understand what you are saying. Truly, words of wisdom. Well said.
GuitaristontheFloor 2 years ago 3
I understand why Muslims are so angry now,
123nadiaa 2 years ago
Children slaughtered, villages pillaged, corrupt representatives, diminishing allies, ignorant world view, propaganda filled minds, a tragedy. That is why Nadia. We need to get this message out to people all over the world. People must know about this, they must.
GuitaristontheFloor 2 years ago
Liar? What the fuck do you know? He was there, you weren`t cause you`re a fucking FRP SIONIST!!!
Jævla idiot
doinen 2 years ago
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FUCKING LIAR! he is a communist and islamist who supports the attacks on WTC!!
kjempegeir 2 years ago
Liar, or no liar. Mute the audio. Watch the videos and images. You'd be nothing more than a cold blooded machine if you don't feel the pain these people are being put in.
GuitaristontheFloor 2 years ago 4