Pele wins a world cup at 16 scoring the last two goals , goes to 5 world cups wins three one were he got injured pretty bad yet he came back and scored over 1000 goals.. creator and master of bicycle kicks , volleys , finishing, headers , freekicks, dribbling , speed, strength shot power and accuracy, left and right foot , he beat the the champions league champions Benfica
He's the greatest because he learnt from no one but he taught himself !!
Liverpool become GIANT since mid 70's-80's ( Keegan, Souness, Dalglish etc ) and STILL IS
Bayern become GIANT ( Becke, Muller etc ) since 70's and STILL IS.
Same for Latin teams ( Boca, Sao Paulo, Penarol, Independiente, O. Asuncion, Nasional etc )
Where the FUCK was Santos since 1963 ?! And WHAT THE FUCK they ACHIEVED with "The KING" that was so undisputed ?! Winning 2 Copas in play off mathces ?!
Pele in the modern era would have been as much good as Jimmy. Actually Hasselbaink had same CHARACTERISTICS with Pele, but you haven't see him playing obviously with Leeds, Atletico, Chelsea and Holland.
99% similar style
Santos who ? Where is Santos in Football since 1963 ?! Pele DIDN'T EVEN MADE THEM GIANTS in their time. Winning 2 Copa's does not make U automatically GIANT.
Real become GIANT since 50's ( DiStefano )and STILL IS
Ajax become GIANT since 70's ( Cruyff ) and STILL IS
@TSOKES and what does being Giants has to do with the fact that Pele was an amazing soccer player. They were the best team in the world in the early 60s with to Copa Libertadores in a row and winning the intercontinental cup both those years defeating Eusebios Benfica and the 60s Milan squad that had Cesare Maldini and Gianni Rivera. They are steal Giants here in the South american continent. You cant compare european clubs with south american clubs right now, it is just stupid like you
Guys,i don't want to offend any of you who are fans of Pele but how come didn't he ever want to transfer in a European club?Only once he crossed the Atlantic and his team (Santos) lost by Olympiakos in 1961!!!! If he played against better defenders from Europe,maybe he wouldn't score 1000+ goals so easily,as we see him scoring in Brazilian championship...Mr Apokorwnioths,i totally agree with your opinion!!!
Idiot he crossed the atlantic many times and buttfucked the lot of them. You basing it off one game THICKY, he destroyed Benfica, Milan and Inter, with the list going on and on! At least research before making yourself sound like the idiot you are.
@Apokorwnioths1984 you know shit!!! brazil was world champion 3 times in peles era and ALL the players played in the brazilian league. get your info right!
pele also destroyed euro teams whenever he played them.
@lacordera A couple of friendly games don't mean much. You really believe Santos would have dominated top European clubs if it was in Europe? I don't think so. Anyway, this question is just hypothetical. We can only speak with ifs. Although it is a fact that Pele refused to move to a big European club. He chose to move to a shitty team like New York Cosmos instead. No matter how great football player he was, he wasn't the best. He never competed against the best in club level.
@sptwood05 I didn't know about that "national treasure" thing. He was a national treasure till he chose to move to New York, but they had the right to ban him from moving to a top European club? I don't know..
I know Santos won 2 intercontinental cups, the one against Milan with much difficulty, but it's not the same playing 2 games, as facing the strongest European teams all the way.
Villa is not as good as Pele but the point is we can't judge only from national titles.
Pele retired in 1974 from football. a few months later in 1975 he made a comeback and played for New york cosmos.
It was very common for all the greats in that era to go to USA and play in their last years. Cruyff, Eusebio, Beckenbauer, Neeskens, Muller, Best, Carlos Alberto all went to play there.
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when he joined Cosmos he became the best paid ATHLETE in the world!
@Apokorwnioths1984 "In 1960, after several European countries offered him $1 million to sign up with their clubs, the government of Brazil declared him a national asset making it impossible for him to leave Brazil without official permission."
On June 10, 1975, Pele signed a three-year contract with the New York Cosmos of the North American Soccer League. It was just 250 days after he had retired from his Santos, Brazil team. What took place was due in part to the efforts of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger who told the Brazilian government that Pele's playing of soccer in the United States would do much for international relations.
@sptwood05 I don't agree with you. Word cup is the best title for national teams, not the No 1 for a football player. Brazil as a country always had many of the best talents in football and most of the times was a contender of World Cup. Contenders of champions league though usually have top players from all over the world and the competition is much tougher.
@Apokorwnioths1984 champions league now is quite different to 20 or 40 years ago. before it was only the champs who participated and teams where allowed ONLY three foreign players in their squad.
Pele beat the champ league winners of 1962, 63. players like maradona have not even prograssed one round in the champions league...
@LongLongLists Well, current Spanish national team has already two cups, one world cup and one euro, and probably they are going to win more in the future. Does that mean that David Villa is the best football player of all times? I really don't think so. Nobody is denying that Pele was a great player. He just wasn't the best. We can consider him though the best of Brazilian league of all times , and one of the top10-15 of all.
Maradona and Bobby Charlton both said Pele is the best player of all time.I must admit,I agree with them all the way.Almost every player today is overhyped when in reality most players today are just mediocre.Take Messi out todays game,you're left with very little to shout about.As for the games themselves,they are putrid,SA 2010 was utterley abysmal.Pele would have shone and stood out a mile.The people who cheapen Pele's greatness are 18-26 year old ignorammuses who listen to Sky Sports.Amen.
Listen I know it is hard for you in your age to BE A MAN, but there is NO SHAME.
Some BOYS remain boys, they never grow up and become man.
Don't feel bad about it. Accept what you are. There are too many FAGGOTS LIKE YOU ALL OVER THE WORLD, go and contact them, BUT STAY AWAY FROM ME please, I DON'T LIKE FAGS LIKE YOU.
@elmagicomessi OH please Juventus offered him millions in 1974, Real madrid offered a 1 billion doller contract ( at least thats what i heard). Every team in Europe wanted him, there was not a team in Europe that did not want him. And whats about Pele is overrated? Winning three world cups is overrated? Winning athlete of the century is overrated? Being the best player from 1958 to 1977 is overrated?? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
@TSOKES Oh please, the teams from south america were the most dominant back then, especially the Brazilian league. And if you want to say that the Brazilian league is crap, remember that Brazil produced good players from 1950 and 1954 so there must have been good player playing there. Unless you want to contradict yourself.
Pele DOES NOT qualifies top-10 Brazilian players EVER.
As for Brazilian League. The FACT that all brazilian superstars come in Europe the last 30 years, VERIFIES my assertion abt the LOW capacity of your League.
@TSOKES Europe is were the money is if there were no money nobody would want to go there. Brazilians started going to Europe after the 1974 world cup when Holland introduced a new kind of football. From 1950 to 1970 is when the S.A leagues were the strongest.
@TSOKES Who cares if he only 2, Pele has 60 titles total. I could also ask the same thing for Messi and Maradona when it comes to copa america. Messi was a flop this past copa i believe the same thing went for Maradona as well.
If you r not an old man missing his youth, than you must be some RETARDED young fella who know shit abt football.
How can you watch his tapes and DVD's from his games, and still consider him the best ?! Are you fucking blind or what ?!
Don't you see his limited skills ?! That era was so fucking shit man, wtf is the matter with you ?! Don't you see the defenders ?! They can't even defend propbly.
@TSOKES Like i have said before if defences were so bad how come players that played in the same position as Pele couldent score as many goals as him, or achieve as much as he did. Not even players today can do what Pele did back then.
I didn't came here to enjoy this shitty football era and this limited player, SUCKER. I come here cuz FAGGOTS like you and ur sissy friends RELPIES at my comments and than they use SPAM and BLOCK.
DO U DENY THAT ?! ARE U MAN ENOUGH TO ADMITT IT. You ve DONE it and U know it, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. When someone replies me, I REPLY HIM.
What views do U have abt football ? If U had enough views abt football than you would answer me with ur STRAIGHT OPINION and NOT with what U have been tought
@TSOKES haha you said it brazil always produced great players.but ONLY when Pele played they won 3 world cups. before that nothing. after Pele it took them 24 years...
santos was nothing before pele. a team of a small city of half a million people. after pele they did nothing again for decades.
you ppor fuck who has to invade desparately every single pele video!!!
@elmagicomessi Pele won his first world cup at 17, Messi still hasn't even been to a world cup final. You really think Messi is better? The brazilians are #1 in soccer, he didn't need to go to europe to prove it because he was playing in the number 1 soccer country. Duh.
@elmagicomessi Because in that era, Europe wasn't at the level it was now. Pele and Santos use to travel the world and beat everyone. Europe got good after Pele's days so Pele was playing the best competition in those days.
Around 80 matches a year back then, no dry clothing, heavy ball and no advanced therapists,no advanced surgery and diets as the one these days....Pele didn't had an easy football era like most ignorants say, back then it was still hard to score...he just did because he was a great player...
Watta wanker u are. U r ADMITTING urself by ur own words that that era was UNDEVELOPED and AMATEUR, but yet you claim it was tough to score back then !! He faced whom ?! Playing 80 matches in 9 months !! In 270 days 80 matches = 1 match every 3 days.
Imagine him in the modern era playing 80 matches a season in TOP LEVEL. He would've been DEAD in 2 months.
He had bad conditions YES, but the level and capacity backthen were LIMITED, VERY LOW.
@Tumorikaxx I agree. No yellow/red cards, defenders were much toucher. Especially the south-americans. Every game was a fight.... Pele is just the best player ever. The best en most complete. Speed, full control, you name it, pele got it all...
back when pele played it was cleaner air and less worry, the players today dont have half the skill as back then. nor the charisma, pele use to go into the stands at half time and ask for something round like a orange or something like that and he would juggle in the middle of the stands just for there enteratinment. todays soccer is half of what it was then. thanks
@lulootdotcom are you ok, if bench players for barca want to this time they wold be stars the training back then was nothing compared to how it is now most players back then started training after they finished school and they still made it pro so dont talk if you dont know anything
@holahola84 greatness is greatness in any generation and you're a dumbass for saying that. Put Pele in today's game and he would still be great because he would have the same opportunities and advanced training that these players have nowadays. Also, the shit that he's doing in that video you can't teach either you have it or you don't and Pele has it and some. He would be great today.
@DharmaTreasury - Yes that's true.. The video shows the defenders at that era is slow and has no defending tactical sense. Well he is still a good player and best player at his time. But can't compare him with Messi =\
jugaba contra equipos de 4º en brasil contra el atletico paranacito del torneo regional que jugaban en los estaduales, y los 1000 goles son puro tocuen (mas de la mitad los hizo en partidos amistosos)
Today's stars would be bench warmers in Pele's time. Any crappy player can be a star today. Money rules football now. So you cannot see much talent anymore. In Pele's time defenders were less restricted. It was easier to injure an offensive player. In Pele's time, there were 100's of stars whose talents are far superior to what you call stars today!!!
Oe tío dices que hiciste, 1284 goles, ¿y por qué nunca fuiste el goleador de Brasil en un mundial? ¿por qué nunca fuiste el goleador del mundial? ¿acaso nos engañas contando goles inexistentes? franqueate pe negro
@brian2010lal I dont know if i should sorry for you or correct you. When Pele Played Brazil was the center of the football universe. He destroyed the top European clubs, taking Santos to 2 Intercontinental Cups, hat-trick away v the great Benfica side. . His greatness rests on far more than goals- left foot right foot headers. Most of the games he played in were not recorded. PLayers had less protection back then he would be better today withe modern rules NUFF SAID NOW GO TO BED
@popglide Untill Pele showed he can deliver outside Santos..especially in Europe ..he will always be over-rated..and will NEVER be the best..He may have been the best in the weak Brazil leaque but he sure aint the best in the world..He would not last a single season in today's football..By the way even the Brazillian Ronaldo was million times better than Pele who hid in Brazil to hide his shortcomings..
@popglide I don't know why you keep on arguing with people whose preposterousness and mundaneness can not make them reason properly, and helas, many are being racist, nothing more....
@brian2010lal Pele isn't overrated. Football changes as time passes by. If Pele would stil play football like he did in his time, he would suck, cause the football is now faster, and the physichal strenght is much more important than back then. But 60 years ago, it was all about the dribling, and the agility.
@torimaxfm1511 IF PELE WOULD HAVE PLAYED IN TODAYS, PROBABLY HE WOULD HAVE WON ANOTHER TWO WORLD CUPS AND MULTIPLE INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENTS. ANY PROFESIONAL PLAYER IN TODAYS WOULD LIKE TO PLAY 50 PERCENT OF THE SKILLS PELE POSSESED
@torimaxfm1511 Well you should consider that what you are saying is only a theory, therefore it has no validation in real history. history of football is concrete and based on specific facts. The specific fact here is that Pele participated in 4 world cups and won three. He was not a super athlete like messi or cr7, but a hardworking man. sorry but you are just jealous. at least you are jealous of the best!
@torimaxfm1511 yes but a great footballer evolves. pele was the greatest. he might not be like the messi and ronaldo of tday but if he played in our era and adapted he would have been a world class player for sure.
@torimaxfm1511 SWearing the last refuge of the stupid..... Go to bed you little boy you are in the company of men stop argueing like a child... It is you who knows nothing
SU MEJOR GOL DE PELE EN LOS MUNDIALES, PERO NO A NIVEL DE LOS GRANDES ¿POR QUE?, MARADONA LO HIZO CONTRA INGLATERRA Y PELE CASI CASI LO HACE CONTRA URUGUAY, ¿QUE TAL?
@miquelencielo in 1970 pele was already a veteran, but he was the key player. He scored 4 times and jairzinho 7. in the final against Italy (4 - 1) he scored the first goal with his head and gerson second; he gave the assist for the third and fourth goal, scored by jair and carlos alberto torres. and still you are saying he should not get any credit, because everyone in the team was great except he. that looks very suspicious...................................
@miquelencielo A greater or more successful player than pele has yet to be born, You need to win the world cup at least by the age of 17; you need to win more world cups then Pele did ; you need to score more goals than he has scored. You must be a master in scoring the glorious bicicleta's 3: 42 & 4:55. with only one world cup win, you can never be better than pele. if you were that good you would have won more world cups; that is the highest level of playing football.
@markfaviere Pele : Hiding in the shelter of the Golden generation and rode his luck and played in a weak Brazil leaque and was never tested in another leaque and he was a little mouse afraid to test his skills outside his comfort zone because he knew his ASS was going to get exposed............Maradona on the other hand Carried Argentina and almost single handedly lift a WC for Argentina and a trophy for Napoli almost all by himself!!
@brian2010lal WRONG. Try rsssf.brazil and Pele autobiography. Check the games Pele didn't play in 59-69 20losses in 45 national Brazil games, 82 wins in 130 games he played.
Check footballdatabase.eu and type Diego Maradona and check his win-loss.
Pele improved Santos 67% Maradona his Europe Teams 8%.
Your opinions are subjective, these are fact! Dont believe me? Check for yourself another cliche man.
@THEWARDSTER Bottom line : Maradona carried two teams (Argentina and Napoli) almost all by himself and helped them to achieve trophies that would have never been achieved by these two sides...On the other hand...Brazil would still win all the three world cup trophies Pele won even if Pele was not in Brazil squad because they were fantastic with or without Pele and so was Santos.Even if Ibrahimovic was playing then in Pele's place Brazil would still win the world cup so is Santos !!!
@THEWARDSTER I am pretty sure Pele joined Santos in 1956 and Santos actually won Campeonato Paulista just the previous season 1955...So to be honest Santos actually did not need Pele to win something like Napoli needed Maradona to win !!!
@brian2010lal Yes they did win this domestic League before Pele who would go on to smah the scoring records which are yet to be broken.
Again like I've told you this isn't the competitions I'm on about. These are the Brazilian Nationals, the combined Sao Paulo and Rio Leagues and Intercontinental. In these competitions as I said earlier Santos lost 20 out of 45 from 59-69 without Pele but won 82 out of 130 games he played. Their points per game was 0.60 better with Pele.
@THEWARDSTER yes..Pele did help Santos to win lots of trophies ...again..Santos would still win most of those trophies if not all even if Pele was not there !! Beside, there is nothing special about his goals and his skills that can WOW you..If his best goals are the ones that are posted here in youtube..I would even go further and say even Cristiano Ronaldo would have done better job than Pele if he were playing for Brazil in 60 & 70 ..based on their raw talents i observe !!
@brian2010lal For the record in this domestic Sao Paulo League they averaged 1.57 points per game in Pele's 410 games, far greater than the 1.31 with the 110 games without him. These points differences Pele makes of 0.26 and 0.6 points per game, far outweigh Maradonas 0.09.
Also Napoli for Maradona to be a one man team only improved slightly to a mere 8th place in his first year when the title was won by a dismal Verona side.
@brian2010lal They then won the League two years later with the addition of three top Italians Bagni, Ferrara and Di Napoli among others. Later added for the 2nd title was Alameo and Careca.
Sampdoria 91 Verona 85 Roma 83 also won League Titles with hardly teams of outstanding players.
Teams lacked superstar depth then in general and this allowed teams like Derby, Real Sociedad and Forest to win the League. If your top players stayed fit this was enough to pose a challenge.
@brian2010lal If he was capable of winning all by himself surely points per game would drop shed loads without him yeh? yeh? Or isn't this what you mean. If not could you please explain what you mean if one man team doesn't mean the teams suffer by a significant amount when he doesn't play. I've just told you a fact his teams drop very little without him.
In fact Barcelona won a domestic double and Cup Winners Cuyp the year after he departed. If their this good why not with the one man team?
@THEWARDSTER The fact is Maradona did carried two teams ie Argentina and Napoli who would have never won those trophies they won..on the other hand Brazil would still win all those 3 trophies without Pele so was Santos ...mainly because they were already strong and good teams !!!
@brian2010lal Argentina won a World Cup and 2 straight straight COPAS without him (91&93). Your speculating! I'm telling you a FACT that Peles sides drop far more in results than Maradonas.
Your welcome to check rsssf.brazil footballdatabase.eu and get the Pele autobiography to cross refernce games he missed to compare. Also fotballdatabase.eu type Maradona and you get the clubs w-d-l record with him in the side. You can then check performance when he's not and drop minimal.
@brian2010lal I don't know how many times I have to tell you Santos were only strong with Pele in side. They lost 20 in 45 without him(59-69), and only 25 in 130 with him at thetop level games (Brazilian National top 10 clubs, far higher standard at that time then any European League winning 5 straight National Titlles)
Johnny Haynes is an absolutes legend Derby County won 2 titles with him won nothing since, so's Jesus Berategui catalyst in Real Sociedad 2 staright titles(80-81) first time.
@brian2010lal Sure they were srong in the Paulista your own about these is just the regional League. The meat and 2 veg is when the top 5 of this League join the Rio League, and when the champions from Paulista join the other regional champions for the National Championship, and also the COPA Lipertadores for the champion.
Santos (59-69) without Pele in regional League averaged 1.37ppg, in the higher standards just 0.84ppg
Pele raised these when in teams to 1.57 and 1.44.
PELÉ: THE LEGEND.
The best ever!
akarudie 5 days ago
Pele changed soccer forever
bwagswampa335 1 week ago
Anyone else start watching this but then just listen to the song.
Z8S3GHOST 1 week ago
wow man simply the best black footballer ever my nigga
SuperShooter73 1 week ago
Pele is the best player of all time
0hinch 2 weeks ago
maradona was alone? you don't know anything about football! : Ruggeri!!, Olarticoechea, Burruchaga!!! Batista, Valdano!!!
0hinch 2 weeks ago
best pele video don't ever delete it..
Pele wins a world cup at 16 scoring the last two goals , goes to 5 world cups wins three one were he got injured pretty bad yet he came back and scored over 1000 goals.. creator and master of bicycle kicks , volleys , finishing, headers , freekicks, dribbling , speed, strength shot power and accuracy, left and right foot , he beat the the champions league champions Benfica
He's the greatest because he learnt from no one but he taught himself !!
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@kayodamaestro You're absolutely right. ;)
TheSomuch 2 weeks ago
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santos of pele was considered the team to beat in the 60s, but of course you dont even know that...
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
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you twat, copa libertadores alwyas was playoffs in the latter stages, and so is club world cup and intercont cup. even world cup is knockout.
2 libertadores out of 3, and 2 out of 2 intercont cups is pretty good. how many players have won as much?
has cruyff won 2 IC? no. dis tefano also won only one IC.zico only one too.
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
Liverpool become GIANT since mid 70's-80's ( Keegan, Souness, Dalglish etc ) and STILL IS
Bayern become GIANT ( Becke, Muller etc ) since 70's and STILL IS.
Same for Latin teams ( Boca, Sao Paulo, Penarol, Independiente, O. Asuncion, Nasional etc )
Where the FUCK was Santos since 1963 ?! And WHAT THE FUCK they ACHIEVED with "The KING" that was so undisputed ?! Winning 2 Copas in play off mathces ?!
WHO IS OBJECTIVE here and WHO IS SUBJECTIVE ?!
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
Pele in the modern era would have been as much good as Jimmy. Actually Hasselbaink had same CHARACTERISTICS with Pele, but you haven't see him playing obviously with Leeds, Atletico, Chelsea and Holland.
99% similar style
Santos who ? Where is Santos in Football since 1963 ?! Pele DIDN'T EVEN MADE THEM GIANTS in their time. Winning 2 Copa's does not make U automatically GIANT.
Real become GIANT since 50's ( DiStefano )and STILL IS
Ajax become GIANT since 70's ( Cruyff ) and STILL IS
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
@TSOKES and what does being Giants has to do with the fact that Pele was an amazing soccer player. They were the best team in the world in the early 60s with to Copa Libertadores in a row and winning the intercontinental cup both those years defeating Eusebios Benfica and the 60s Milan squad that had Cesare Maldini and Gianni Rivera. They are steal Giants here in the South american continent. You cant compare european clubs with south american clubs right now, it is just stupid like you
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@1690dmercado
Listen MIERDAco, little MONKEY, go and eat a banana there in Amazon and after that go and suck a dick to feel a better SHEMALE whore than U are.
Football IS NOT FOR SHEMALE MONEKYS
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
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@TSOKES pele didnt make santos giants in their time????!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
GO TO BASKETBALL I TOLD YOU"!!!!!!! YOU CLUELESS FCK!!!!! LOL
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
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@TSOKES AND YOU PROVE THAT SANTOS WAS A TEAM OF PELE AND HIM ONLY.
IT DISAPPEARED WHEN HE RETIRED.
no other team in history of football is so connected to one player.
All of its glory is thanks to Pele!
hahah Napoli is UCL round of 16. its best ever!
with maradona they never reached that far!!!! LOL
with him only 4 UCL games in 7 years. with Cavani 8 UCL this season at least !!!
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
Pele/Pede is NOT EVEN top-10 Brazilian players EVER.
Is he BETTER than J.F. Hasselbaink ?! TOUGH CALL
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
People look at the fact that Pele scored so many goals and deduce from it that he must have had it easy. Maybe he was just a brilliant player...
PS. I prefer Maradona
bluemoonrising26 3 weeks ago
Guys,i don't want to offend any of you who are fans of Pele but how come didn't he ever want to transfer in a European club?Only once he crossed the Atlantic and his team (Santos) lost by Olympiakos in 1961!!!! If he played against better defenders from Europe,maybe he wouldn't score 1000+ goals so easily,as we see him scoring in Brazilian championship...Mr Apokorwnioths,i totally agree with your opinion!!!
city12chania 3 weeks ago
@city12chania the guy played in 4 world cups and won 3. that pretty much puts the european theory to bed. He owned everyone.
Shreds1620 2 weeks ago
@Shreds1620 Pele had great teammates who helped him achieving these triumphs.Mara dona was all alone
city12chania 2 weeks ago
@city12chania
Idiot he crossed the atlantic many times and buttfucked the lot of them. You basing it off one game THICKY, he destroyed Benfica, Milan and Inter, with the list going on and on! At least research before making yourself sound like the idiot you are.
CrowenClark 2 weeks ago 6
Pele played in a low level league..He definitely isn't the best of all times. Maybe he is one of the top-15.
Apokorwnioths1984 3 weeks ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 Low level? Three time world-champion? You call that low level? World-champion at the age of 17... Low level?
MrBaassiecool 3 weeks ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 you know shit!!! brazil was world champion 3 times in peles era and ALL the players played in the brazilian league. get your info right!
pele also destroyed euro teams whenever he played them.
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 in that time Santos was a great team, they played against Real Madrid in Bernabeu and won 5-2
lacordera 2 weeks ago
also he won 3 worl cups. In the first one he was the star of the tournament with 17 years old
lacordera 2 weeks ago
@lacordera A couple of friendly games don't mean much. You really believe Santos would have dominated top European clubs if it was in Europe? I don't think so. Anyway, this question is just hypothetical. We can only speak with ifs. Although it is a fact that Pele refused to move to a big European club. He chose to move to a shitty team like New York Cosmos instead. No matter how great football player he was, he wasn't the best. He never competed against the best in club level.
Apokorwnioths1984 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 Pele was proclaimed national treasure by brazilian government, so he was NOT allowed to leave.
In that era the braz league was the best, and all the world chamsp of 1958, 62 AND 70 played there.
to NY cosmos he went after he retired and so did all the greats in his era(Beckanbauer, cruyff, best, eusebio, neeskens etc)
sptwood05 1 week ago
@sptwood05 I didn't know about that "national treasure" thing. He was a national treasure till he chose to move to New York, but they had the right to ban him from moving to a top European club? I don't know..
I know Santos won 2 intercontinental cups, the one against Milan with much difficulty, but it's not the same playing 2 games, as facing the strongest European teams all the way.
Villa is not as good as Pele but the point is we can't judge only from national titles.
Apokorwnioths1984 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984
Pele retired in 1974 from football. a few months later in 1975 he made a comeback and played for New york cosmos.
It was very common for all the greats in that era to go to USA and play in their last years. Cruyff, Eusebio, Beckenbauer, Neeskens, Muller, Best, Carlos Alberto all went to play there.
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when he joined Cosmos he became the best paid ATHLETE in the world!
no other footballer has achieved that ever.
sptwood05 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 "In 1960, after several European countries offered him $1 million to sign up with their clubs, the government of Brazil declared him a national asset making it impossible for him to leave Brazil without official permission."
sptwood05 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984
On June 10, 1975, Pele signed a three-year contract with the New York Cosmos of the North American Soccer League. It was just 250 days after he had retired from his Santos, Brazil team. What took place was due in part to the efforts of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger who told the Brazilian government that Pele's playing of soccer in the United States would do much for international relations.
sptwood05 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 pele beat the euro champions benfica and Milan in 1962-63 and was world champion with santos.
the world cup is the No1 title for a footballer. not a european league. and pele won 3.
sptwood05 1 week ago
@sptwood05 I don't agree with you. Word cup is the best title for national teams, not the No 1 for a football player. Brazil as a country always had many of the best talents in football and most of the times was a contender of World Cup. Contenders of champions league though usually have top players from all over the world and the competition is much tougher.
Apokorwnioths1984 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 champions league now is quite different to 20 or 40 years ago. before it was only the champs who participated and teams where allowed ONLY three foreign players in their squad.
Pele beat the champ league winners of 1962, 63. players like maradona have not even prograssed one round in the champions league...
sptwood05 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 jerk
klnine 2 weeks ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 World cup????
LongLongLists 2 weeks ago
@LongLongLists Well, current Spanish national team has already two cups, one world cup and one euro, and probably they are going to win more in the future. Does that mean that David Villa is the best football player of all times? I really don't think so. Nobody is denying that Pele was a great player. He just wasn't the best. We can consider him though the best of Brazilian league of all times , and one of the top10-15 of all.
Apokorwnioths1984 1 week ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 hahahaha how can you compare villa to pele??
villa is nto the best player in his team barcelona. in skills in villa is nothing like pele.
villa was not mvp of a world cup either. just a joint top scorer
sptwood05 1 week ago
Maradona and Bobby Charlton both said Pele is the best player of all time.I must admit,I agree with them all the way.Almost every player today is overhyped when in reality most players today are just mediocre.Take Messi out todays game,you're left with very little to shout about.As for the games themselves,they are putrid,SA 2010 was utterley abysmal.Pele would have shone and stood out a mile.The people who cheapen Pele's greatness are 18-26 year old ignorammuses who listen to Sky Sports.Amen.
zzzaaa0990 3 weeks ago
Great Video!
Mrelectricdrumkit 3 weeks ago
As for this video ( another PROPAGANDA video ).
Pele vs Hasselbaink
Who was better ?!
There's Pele in football. Same level with Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
HARDLY QUALIFIES TOP 50 FOOTBALLERS EVER.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES HASSELBAINK??+ HA HA WHAT A CLOWN YOU ARE!!
GO TALK ABOUT BASKETBALL, DONT EMBARRASS YOURSELF ANYMORE!!
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
@sptwood05
Listen I know it is hard for you in your age to BE A MAN, but there is NO SHAME.
Some BOYS remain boys, they never grow up and become man.
Don't feel bad about it. Accept what you are. There are too many FAGGOTS LIKE YOU ALL OVER THE WORLD, go and contact them, BUT STAY AWAY FROM ME please, I DON'T LIKE FAGS LIKE YOU.
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
@TSOKES haha stay away from you? sorry that i dont want to waste my time with your ignorant stats, you started messaging, YOU invade Peles videos.
but i guess our facts hurt!
every single one of my facts is true. you use subjective opinions about everything.
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
pele made 265 to like this video hahaha
poor guy
elmagicomessi 4 weeks ago
At that time Football was a game between friends.. Put Pelé now He would be watching the games from the bench
23ciccio23 1 month ago
@23ciccio23 If Messi played 100 years from now he get his ass benched.
becefalus 1 month ago
@becefalus
lol at u sucker, pele is overrated so deal with it, if he plays now hahaha no team in europe will think to get him
elmagicomessi 4 weeks ago
@elmagicomessi I diden't understand a word you just said. Try again please.
becefalus 4 weeks ago
@elmagicomessi OH please Juventus offered him millions in 1974, Real madrid offered a 1 billion doller contract ( at least thats what i heard). Every team in Europe wanted him, there was not a team in Europe that did not want him. And whats about Pele is overrated? Winning three world cups is overrated? Winning athlete of the century is overrated? Being the best player from 1958 to 1977 is overrated?? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
becefalus 3 weeks ago
Have a nice trip than to MARS. Bye bye
Simple question. If he had so many offers WHY he NEVER CAME in the best European Clubs ?!
Best player from 1958 to 1977 ?! Are U ON CRACK or something ?! He was HISTORY since 1963.
Best athlete elected by whom ?! By OLDFART CORRUPTED FUKCERS ?!
Take ur memories and smoke some weed pal U will feel better. Paf paf paf phuuuuuu try that shyt it will RELAX U.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES Oh please, the teams from south america were the most dominant back then, especially the Brazilian league. And if you want to say that the Brazilian league is crap, remember that Brazil produced good players from 1950 and 1954 so there must have been good player playing there. Unless you want to contradict yourself.
becefalus 3 weeks ago
Brazil ALWAYS produced GREAT players.
Pele DOES NOT qualifies top-10 Brazilian players EVER.
As for Brazilian League. The FACT that all brazilian superstars come in Europe the last 30 years, VERIFIES my assertion abt the LOW capacity of your League.
It's the TRUTH.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES Europe is were the money is if there were no money nobody would want to go there. Brazilians started going to Europe after the 1974 world cup when Holland introduced a new kind of football. From 1950 to 1970 is when the S.A leagues were the strongest.
becefalus 3 weeks ago
OK, than lets talk abt that era ( lets agree ) 50-70
How many Copa Libertadores Pele won in his 20 years career with Santos ?!
How many ?! I can't hear you, louder please.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES Who cares if he only 2, Pele has 60 titles total. I could also ask the same thing for Messi and Maradona when it comes to copa america. Messi was a flop this past copa i believe the same thing went for Maradona as well.
becefalus 3 weeks ago
God damn grandpa, why can't you discuss ONLY abt Pele ?! Who is making comparisons here ?! I DIDN'T for sure.
Just stay on the theme man. U claim he is the best etc, he dominated in his era etc. When I ask U abt his achievements than U change subject. Daaaamn
Therefore all of you Pele's "LOVERS" have problem discussing with anybody. You don't have coherence. Just mix up everything.
Pele DOES NOT QUALIFIES top-50 EVER.
Have a nice day.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES If anyone here is a grandpa it's most likely you.
becefalus 3 weeks ago
If you r not an old man missing his youth, than you must be some RETARDED young fella who know shit abt football.
How can you watch his tapes and DVD's from his games, and still consider him the best ?! Are you fucking blind or what ?!
Don't you see his limited skills ?! That era was so fucking shit man, wtf is the matter with you ?! Don't you see the defenders ?! They can't even defend propbly.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES Like i have said before if defences were so bad how come players that played in the same position as Pele couldent score as many goals as him, or achieve as much as he did. Not even players today can do what Pele did back then.
becefalus 3 weeks ago
Go and check thsese names from his era.
Josef Bican, Arthur Friedenraich, DiStefano, Puskas, Leonidas
Actually Pele has 600+ goals OFFICIALLY + 600 unofficial in exchibiton friendly games
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@TSOKES Pele has about 750 OFFICIAL goals, still a world record. Pele has also the record for league goals.
sptwood05 1 week ago
@TSOKES you clueless moron, Santos played only 3 times in copa libertadores, won 2 of those and reached semis in the third one.
brazilian teams boycoted the tournament for several seasons in the 60s.
get your info right!!
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
I didn't came here to enjoy this shitty football era and this limited player, SUCKER. I come here cuz FAGGOTS like you and ur sissy friends RELPIES at my comments and than they use SPAM and BLOCK.
DO U DENY THAT ?! ARE U MAN ENOUGH TO ADMITT IT. You ve DONE it and U know it, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. When someone replies me, I REPLY HIM.
What views do U have abt football ? If U had enough views abt football than you would answer me with ur STRAIGHT OPINION and NOT with what U have been tought
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
@TSOKES
i told you i dont spam, but it is boring to reply to endless messages when we completely disagree.
if i didnt admire pele i would not watch his videos. but i admire him and thats why i search the internet for as much footage of him as possible.
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
@TSOKES pele was from 56 to 74 in santos. thats 18 years, and copa libe started in 1960.
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
@TSOKES haha you said it brazil always produced great players.but ONLY when Pele played they won 3 world cups. before that nothing. after Pele it took them 24 years...
santos was nothing before pele. a team of a small city of half a million people. after pele they did nothing again for decades.
you ppor fuck who has to invade desparately every single pele video!!!
LOL
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
@sptwood05
C'mon BITCH, GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE, go and suck a dick with ur master.
Football AIN'T FOR GAYS.
TSOKES 2 weeks ago
@TSOKES italiaoval come on reveal yourself!
your views in football are a total joke!! you are the laughing stock of youtube vids and you know it.
grow upo and watch maradona if you like him so much
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
fernandoestanislau1 1 month ago
Pedernera was better than Pelé. Di Stefano was better than Pelé. Kempes was better than Pelé.
Maradona was better than Pelé. Nowadays, Messi is better than Pelé.There will always be an argentinian better than Pelé.
fuckmadboy 1 month ago
wow...the skills are not that great...but the defense sucks.
childofthetantos 1 month ago
overrated bitch
elmagicomessi 1 month ago
@elmagicomessi exactly, no offside at his time and bad defenders
FilmzHD11 1 month ago
@FilmzHD11
brazil won the world cup in 62 w/o him & this fuck saying everytime : i won 3 !!!!
if he was great why didn't he go to europe & prove that
elmagicomessi 1 month ago
@elmagicomessi hes shit and overrated, he thinks that he's the best but he can suck Messi's dick
FilmzHD11 1 month ago
@elmagicomessi Pele won his first world cup at 17, Messi still hasn't even been to a world cup final. You really think Messi is better? The brazilians are #1 in soccer, he didn't need to go to europe to prove it because he was playing in the number 1 soccer country. Duh.
Kato00a 1 month ago
@elmagicomessi Because in that era, Europe wasn't at the level it was now. Pele and Santos use to travel the world and beat everyone. Europe got good after Pele's days so Pele was playing the best competition in those days.
ashlovesnick28 4 weeks ago
@FilmzHD11 Pele was pulling moves that players today are still doing. Pele owns, dumbass.
Kato00a 1 month ago
@elmagicomessi Of course a messi fan would say that. Typical bias answer.
Kato00a 1 month ago
I'd like to see pele pull that stuff against todays defenders, how bout he play against real madrid and try that stuff on pepe...
azraelblame 1 month ago
4 ever
topito336 1 month ago
pele is the best !!!
topito336 1 month ago
Around 80 matches a year back then, no dry clothing, heavy ball and no advanced therapists,no advanced surgery and diets as the one these days....Pele didn't had an easy football era like most ignorants say, back then it was still hard to score...he just did because he was a great player...
Tumorikaxx 1 month ago 7
@Tumorikaxx
Watta wanker u are. U r ADMITTING urself by ur own words that that era was UNDEVELOPED and AMATEUR, but yet you claim it was tough to score back then !! He faced whom ?! Playing 80 matches in 9 months !! In 270 days 80 matches = 1 match every 3 days.
Imagine him in the modern era playing 80 matches a season in TOP LEVEL. He would've been DEAD in 2 months.
He had bad conditions YES, but the level and capacity backthen were LIMITED, VERY LOW.
TSOKES 3 weeks ago
@Tumorikaxx I agree. No yellow/red cards, defenders were much toucher. Especially the south-americans. Every game was a fight.... Pele is just the best player ever. The best en most complete. Speed, full control, you name it, pele got it all...
MrBaassiecool 3 weeks ago
@Tumorikaxx but you just described a super modern day footballer where every player is super fit, how do you run through that? answer: messi :)
Campestral 2 weeks ago
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@Campestral yes messi, but only for barcelona. with argentina messi is not as good.
Pele is better player.
sptwood05 2 weeks ago
back when pele played it was cleaner air and less worry, the players today dont have half the skill as back then. nor the charisma, pele use to go into the stands at half time and ask for something round like a orange or something like that and he would juggle in the middle of the stands just for there enteratinment. todays soccer is half of what it was then. thanks
stevencramaro 1 month ago
15 dislikes for maradona btu Pele is still officiolly #1
The2010patriots 1 month ago
@lulootdotcom are you ok, if bench players for barca want to this time they wold be stars the training back then was nothing compared to how it is now most players back then started training after they finished school and they still made it pro so dont talk if you dont know anything
NanushhChung 1 month ago
@Lulootdotcom - Actually I am pretty sure Pele will be a benchwarmer in any top clubs in today's football.. Maybe not even a sub in barca and real =)
holahola84 1 month ago
@holahola84 greatness is greatness in any generation and you're a dumbass for saying that. Put Pele in today's game and he would still be great because he would have the same opportunities and advanced training that these players have nowadays. Also, the shit that he's doing in that video you can't teach either you have it or you don't and Pele has it and some. He would be great today.
ashlovesnick28 4 weeks ago
@DharmaTreasury - Yes that's true.. The video shows the defenders at that era is slow and has no defending tactical sense. Well he is still a good player and best player at his time. But can't compare him with Messi =\
holahola84 1 month ago
jugaba contra equipos de 4º en brasil contra el atletico paranacito del torneo regional que jugaban en los estaduales, y los 1000 goles son puro tocuen (mas de la mitad los hizo en partidos amistosos)
luchotate04 1 month ago
hahahhha Ranlido, Ranlidinho, Marrorio, Merdi '(messi), Cheiradonna, etc.
ipkeez 2 months ago
CADE A PORRA DO CU DE GULLITTY? CU DE BOLINHA DE GUDE? RUDY GULLIT?
ipkeez 2 months ago
Today's stars would be bench warmers in Pele's time. Any crappy player can be a star today. Money rules football now. So you cannot see much talent anymore. In Pele's time defenders were less restricted. It was easier to injure an offensive player. In Pele's time, there were 100's of stars whose talents are far superior to what you call stars today!!!
Lulootdotcom 2 months ago
Eminem - stan..
TehForkinator 2 months ago
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TehForkinator 2 months ago
A legend of his time, no doubt. But he would get eaten alive today.
DharmaTreasury 2 months ago
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Oe tío dices que hiciste, 1284 goles, ¿y por qué nunca fuiste el goleador de Brasil en un mundial? ¿por qué nunca fuiste el goleador del mundial? ¿acaso nos engañas contando goles inexistentes? franqueate pe negro
MrMarch2100 2 months ago
pele is awesome by far the best footballer ever he is my idol
LiamZTing 2 months ago
Neymar e Messi tem que comer muito arroz feijão pra chegar perto do que foi Pelé.
miguelcorleonne 2 months ago 3
Oh man.., he got killer skills. So fast.., i never though that Pele was playing like this. No weakness at all.
Gudang9 2 months ago
@Gudang9 No weakness? Funny. You are overrating him. Extraordinary? Yes? Flowless? No.
torimaxfm1511 2 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 As striker, he is perfect. Good dribble, strong,fast, high jump, what else? What is his weakness?
Gudang9 2 months ago
@Gudang9 Well, when u say it like that, it looks like he has no flows. But every player has 'em.
torimaxfm1511 2 months ago
Pele the greatest ever..... Messi who? maybe this era's great but this man is Legend
Best01Actor 2 months ago
its his feet nn its a nice song by eminem that goes wiff the video
The2010patriots 2 months ago
pele skills in HD ----lol
rore7777777 3 months ago
Best player of all time
Gjertsensod 3 months ago
he best footballer ever ? HAHAHAHa..You shoud change the title to " Pele the most overrated player EVERR " lol
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal oh shut the fuck up u moron
i bet u know nothing about football
torimaxfm1511 3 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 Pele was no Better than Didier Drogba !! Overrated as f*** !!! A player who don't make it to Europe...lol..OVER_RATED
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal Wow you bring up the same excuse all the time and when you are proven wrong you run away and find another argument...
becefalus 3 months ago
@brian2010lal I dont know if i should sorry for you or correct you. When Pele Played Brazil was the center of the football universe. He destroyed the top European clubs, taking Santos to 2 Intercontinental Cups, hat-trick away v the great Benfica side. . His greatness rests on far more than goals- left foot right foot headers. Most of the games he played in were not recorded. PLayers had less protection back then he would be better today withe modern rules NUFF SAID NOW GO TO BED
popglide 3 months ago
@popglide Untill Pele showed he can deliver outside Santos..especially in Europe ..he will always be over-rated..and will NEVER be the best..He may have been the best in the weak Brazil leaque but he sure aint the best in the world..He would not last a single season in today's football..By the way even the Brazillian Ronaldo was million times better than Pele who hid in Brazil to hide his shortcomings..
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal Brazilian league had the best players, Brasil won 3 of 4 World Cups (1958-1970) and the entire team played in Brazil.
thiagooculos 2 months ago
@brian2010lal pele if fucking your mother right now......
NancyxBrito 2 months ago
@NancyxBrito what are you ? 5 years old ? hahajaja.
brian2010lal 2 months ago
@brian2010lal no... no i'm not
NancyxBrito 2 months ago
@popglide I don't know why you keep on arguing with people whose preposterousness and mundaneness can not make them reason properly, and helas, many are being racist, nothing more....
CARLISTO777 2 months ago
@brian2010lal Pele isn't overrated. Football changes as time passes by. If Pele would stil play football like he did in his time, he would suck, cause the football is now faster, and the physichal strenght is much more important than back then. But 60 years ago, it was all about the dribling, and the agility.
torimaxfm1511 3 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 IF PELE WOULD HAVE PLAYED IN TODAYS, PROBABLY HE WOULD HAVE WON ANOTHER TWO WORLD CUPS AND MULTIPLE INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENTS. ANY PROFESIONAL PLAYER IN TODAYS WOULD LIKE TO PLAY 50 PERCENT OF THE SKILLS PELE POSSESED
tonchititito 3 months ago
@tonchititito I agree with you that he is an extraordinary player(back then), but in nowdays football, he would be nothing but a piece of shit.
torimaxfm1511 3 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 Well you should consider that what you are saying is only a theory, therefore it has no validation in real history. history of football is concrete and based on specific facts. The specific fact here is that Pele participated in 4 world cups and won three. He was not a super athlete like messi or cr7, but a hardworking man. sorry but you are just jealous. at least you are jealous of the best!
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thiagooculos 2 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 yes but a great footballer evolves. pele was the greatest. he might not be like the messi and ronaldo of tday but if he played in our era and adapted he would have been a world class player for sure.
NancyxBrito 2 months ago
@NancyxBrito Well, perhaps u r right.. Dunno, I'm stil behind my own opinion
torimaxfm1511 2 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 i got to respect tht
NancyxBrito 2 months ago
@NancyxBrito Thank you
torimaxfm1511 2 months ago
@torimaxfm1511 SWearing the last refuge of the stupid..... Go to bed you little boy you are in the company of men stop argueing like a child... It is you who knows nothing
popglide 3 months ago
@popglide It is I who know's nothing? LOL Get a life.. I hate to see stupid men talking trash about legends
torimaxfm1511 3 months ago
this video is stolen.........randomyanke just change song
StreetImpact6 3 months ago
Pele is the best forever.
MahmmodQ 3 months ago
The Fact is Pele Is the Greatest thus far & it will be near Impossible to top him. If he played today he would only be better.
QuantumMovement 3 months ago
The best!!
1954santamaria 3 months ago
What does the song Stan got to do with Pele? O.o
Dassykid 3 months ago 11
@Dassykid maybe cuz stan its eminems biggest fan and were Pele's biggest fans? my best guess
CholoProductionz 1 month ago
ééééé eeeee do brasil xD
danteevil100 3 months ago
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SUECIA 58: GOLEADOR: JUST FONTAINE (13 GOLES), MEJOR JUGADOR: GARRINCHA
CHILE 62: GOLEADORES: GARRINCHA (4 GOLES), VAVA (4 GOLES), MEJOR JUGADOR GARRINCHA
INGLATERRA 66: GOLEADOR:EUSEBIO (9 GOLES), MEJOR JUGAADOR HURTS
MEXICO 70: GOLEADOR: MULLE (10 GOLES), MEJOR JUG. PELE
MEXICO 86: MEJOR JUGADOR MARADONA, GOL DEL SIGLO (FIFA); MARADONA
FRANCIA 98: MEJOR JUGADOR: RONALDO
JAPON 2002: GOLEADOR: RONALDO (8 GOLES), MEJOR JUGADOR RONALDO
MrMarch2100 3 months ago
maradona made 12 different accounts to dislike
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SU MEJOR GOL DE PELE EN LOS MUNDIALES, PERO NO A NIVEL DE LOS GRANDES ¿POR QUE?, MARADONA LO HIZO CONTRA INGLATERRA Y PELE CASI CASI LO HACE CONTRA URUGUAY, ¿QUE TAL?
MrMarch2100 3 months ago
@miquelencielo in 1970 pele was already a veteran, but he was the key player. He scored 4 times and jairzinho 7. in the final against Italy (4 - 1) he scored the first goal with his head and gerson second; he gave the assist for the third and fourth goal, scored by jair and carlos alberto torres. and still you are saying he should not get any credit, because everyone in the team was great except he. that looks very suspicious...................................
wiwrd11 3 months ago
@miquelencielo A greater or more successful player than pele has yet to be born, You need to win the world cup at least by the age of 17; you need to win more world cups then Pele did ; you need to score more goals than he has scored. You must be a master in scoring the glorious bicicleta's 3: 42 & 4:55. with only one world cup win, you can never be better than pele. if you were that good you would have won more world cups; that is the highest level of playing football.
wiwrd11 3 months ago
the best
685962 3 months ago
MARADONA dribbling 5 plyers, pele 2 and 3 , no more ... hug man
AndresMozart 3 months ago
@AndresMozart pele 1283 goals, maradona? pele 3 world cups, maradona? hmmm ok.
markfaviere 3 months ago
@markfaviere Pele : Hiding in the shelter of the Golden generation and rode his luck and played in a weak Brazil leaque and was never tested in another leaque and he was a little mouse afraid to test his skills outside his comfort zone because he knew his ASS was going to get exposed............Maradona on the other hand Carried Argentina and almost single handedly lift a WC for Argentina and a trophy for Napoli almost all by himself!!
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal WRONG. Try rsssf.brazil and Pele autobiography. Check the games Pele didn't play in 59-69 20losses in 45 national Brazil games, 82 wins in 130 games he played.
Check footballdatabase.eu and type Diego Maradona and check his win-loss.
Pele improved Santos 67% Maradona his Europe Teams 8%.
Your opinions are subjective, these are fact! Dont believe me? Check for yourself another cliche man.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@THEWARDSTER Bottom line : Maradona carried two teams (Argentina and Napoli) almost all by himself and helped them to achieve trophies that would have never been achieved by these two sides...On the other hand...Brazil would still win all the three world cup trophies Pele won even if Pele was not in Brazil squad because they were fantastic with or without Pele and so was Santos.Even if Ibrahimovic was playing then in Pele's place Brazil would still win the world cup so is Santos !!!
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THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
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THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@THEWARDSTER I am pretty sure Pele joined Santos in 1956 and Santos actually won Campeonato Paulista just the previous season 1955...So to be honest Santos actually did not need Pele to win something like Napoli needed Maradona to win !!!
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal Yes they did win this domestic League before Pele who would go on to smah the scoring records which are yet to be broken.
Again like I've told you this isn't the competitions I'm on about. These are the Brazilian Nationals, the combined Sao Paulo and Rio Leagues and Intercontinental. In these competitions as I said earlier Santos lost 20 out of 45 from 59-69 without Pele but won 82 out of 130 games he played. Their points per game was 0.60 better with Pele.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@THEWARDSTER yes..Pele did help Santos to win lots of trophies ...again..Santos would still win most of those trophies if not all even if Pele was not there !! Beside, there is nothing special about his goals and his skills that can WOW you..If his best goals are the ones that are posted here in youtube..I would even go further and say even Cristiano Ronaldo would have done better job than Pele if he were playing for Brazil in 60 & 70 ..based on their raw talents i observe !!
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal For the record in this domestic Sao Paulo League they averaged 1.57 points per game in Pele's 410 games, far greater than the 1.31 with the 110 games without him. These points differences Pele makes of 0.26 and 0.6 points per game, far outweigh Maradonas 0.09.
Also Napoli for Maradona to be a one man team only improved slightly to a mere 8th place in his first year when the title was won by a dismal Verona side.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@brian2010lal They then won the League two years later with the addition of three top Italians Bagni, Ferrara and Di Napoli among others. Later added for the 2nd title was Alameo and Careca.
Sampdoria 91 Verona 85 Roma 83 also won League Titles with hardly teams of outstanding players.
Teams lacked superstar depth then in general and this allowed teams like Derby, Real Sociedad and Forest to win the League. If your top players stayed fit this was enough to pose a challenge.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@brian2010lal If he was capable of winning all by himself surely points per game would drop shed loads without him yeh? yeh? Or isn't this what you mean. If not could you please explain what you mean if one man team doesn't mean the teams suffer by a significant amount when he doesn't play. I've just told you a fact his teams drop very little without him.
In fact Barcelona won a domestic double and Cup Winners Cuyp the year after he departed. If their this good why not with the one man team?
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@THEWARDSTER The fact is Maradona did carried two teams ie Argentina and Napoli who would have never won those trophies they won..on the other hand Brazil would still win all those 3 trophies without Pele so was Santos ...mainly because they were already strong and good teams !!!
brian2010lal 3 months ago
@brian2010lal Argentina won a World Cup and 2 straight straight COPAS without him (91&93). Your speculating! I'm telling you a FACT that Peles sides drop far more in results than Maradonas.
Your welcome to check rsssf.brazil footballdatabase.eu and get the Pele autobiography to cross refernce games he missed to compare. Also fotballdatabase.eu type Maradona and you get the clubs w-d-l record with him in the side. You can then check performance when he's not and drop minimal.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@brian2010lal I don't know how many times I have to tell you Santos were only strong with Pele in side. They lost 20 in 45 without him(59-69), and only 25 in 130 with him at thetop level games (Brazilian National top 10 clubs, far higher standard at that time then any European League winning 5 straight National Titlles)
Johnny Haynes is an absolutes legend Derby County won 2 titles with him won nothing since, so's Jesus Berategui catalyst in Real Sociedad 2 staright titles(80-81) first time.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago
@brian2010lal Sure they were srong in the Paulista your own about these is just the regional League. The meat and 2 veg is when the top 5 of this League join the Rio League, and when the champions from Paulista join the other regional champions for the National Championship, and also the COPA Lipertadores for the champion.
Santos (59-69) without Pele in regional League averaged 1.37ppg, in the higher standards just 0.84ppg
Pele raised these when in teams to 1.57 and 1.44.
THEWARDSTER 3 months ago