Comparison between "He's A Pirate" and "Battle"

[asmoth360]

The second sounds so cheaaaap...

Both are inspired by Gladiator...

[YoshiMieMe]

I hear the similarities but I also hear the differences. But close to Plagiarism I would dare to say...

[PHOENIXGUNDAM]

HOLY CRAP, ITS THE SAME DAMN SONG!!!

[HikariCM]

Listen to "The Battle" from "Gladiator" at 5:50. At least here Zimmer only stole from himself

[christophe3d]

Another music from 1981 with practically the same notes (at least at the beginning): Le Retour de Gérard Lambert, by Renaud Séchan.

[sleeeepy17]

Man, I wish some people would get their facts straight before they accuse anyone of anything. It is indeed true that the musical "Endless Shock" is from 2005 BUT an earlier version of the musical which had about the same story line and music was already performed in 2000 under the title "Millenium Shock". Up till now the musical has been performed every year since 2000, although the title has been changed. The music has stayed basically the same though, as far as I know.

[jdfan1989]

I saw very little comparison between the two. They're both very different. Yes, there are a couple similar things, but really? Calling this plagiarism is stretching it...

[DJReBorn1980]

the original is from the score to LIon KIng II

[JoeSnyderwalk]

That is incredible. Just incredible.

To be fair, Zimmer and Badelt had next to no time to finish the score (2 weeks or so). Still...wow, this is up there with the 300/Titus plagiarism case.

[TudorTulok]

composed Domoto Koichi - named Kassen, year of composing 2006, the OST album is called Koichi Domoto - Endless Shock Original Sound Track , sorry but Klaus Badelt version is the original

[tomccoffee]

It's curious how the second one sounds more "pirate-y". Must be something about the orchestration...

[Harvey142009]

very similar!

'hes a pirate's better

[heworama]

And the soundtrack was released in 06! It's pretty far fetched to think that Hans Zimmer/Klaus Badelt flew to Japan to hear this and then ripped it off. On Soundtrack. net you can hear Zimmer's original demo which is in a very different structural form to these two pieces which are in almost identical forms - so it's even more far fetched to think that Zimmer flew to japan, ripped off the themes in a demo with a different form and then made a track with the same structure as the "original"!

[Maxxoe]

Now Here's the kicker! A vary similar melody can be found at about minute 6 on a track from The Gladiator by Klaus Badelt Hans Zimmer who worked on Pirates of the Caribbean together. Guess what the name of the song is!... The Battle!

[alphalink]

daaaaamn, I didnt know this

both rock but I didnt expect that

[lilpiska]

* Millennium Shock (2000) * Shock (2001-2002) * Shock is Real Shock (2003) * Shocking Shock (2004) * Endless Shock (20052008)

[scrimthecat]

Didn't you notice that before?

[jorisheit]

shocking its almost the same. this not right

is there no copyright

[suweihao]

Wow. This is indeed a shock.

[lowwwe08]

Endless shock is 2005 !!!

[aeonmccrary]

damn, they tried to rip it off by making it as close as they could to hes a pirate without actually copying it completely

just realised that lol, but wasnt endless shock a 2005 film?

[doctorwho11]

Just a musical play I think. But I've checked and it is indeed 2005.

The music sounds great though, although I prefer Zimmer's.

[jorisheit]

i love doctor who to

[Capn713]

Endless shock is from 2005!

[RichardKleiner]

ah, Pirates sounds like pretty much everything else. Too bad, Mr Zimmer and co.

[JuntaFreak]

im shocked! my, i always thought "Battle" was composed after "He's a Pirate", but it was actually the opposite. haha. I somehow like "He's a Pirate" a little LeSs than before, now...

[awesomexxxericfilms]

The battle looks like it's trying to sound like He's a pirate...but I think He's a pirate is more better...

[HermanTheSorcerer]

nonetheleass, this theft makes badelt an idealess thug

[TheFreier]

when he paid gema taxes it's legal..

[moeloehoe]

oh man this si so shoking. hollywood has no frehs ideas they have to steal from everything.

and i think the OST from pirates of the carbean was nominated for an oscar how ist that possible?

[TomAR4YA]

son of a bastard

[HermanTheSorcerer]

the harmonies are exactly the same... screw you badelt, you ugly fucking thief!!! I hope you'll pay for that theft, go and burn in hell!!

[Drakester671]

@HermanTheSorcerer You do know that Endless Shock was in 2005 so badelt didn't steal it, right?

[Hermione162]

Whoa weird. I perfer He's A Pirate more though. It sounds practicly the same only diff is the notes

[tfdmgurl]

2nd! I liked it!

[RichardKleiner]

Hans Zimmer and his disciples will always sound the same. It's their style. It's no wonder that the music from Crimson Tide is the same as Pirates or Transformers. Still, the Japanese composer minded to variate the original cue. Besides, "Battle" sounds like synth music.

[RichardKleiner]

Hans Zimmer and his disciples will always sound the same. It's their style. It's no wonder that the music from Crimson Tide is the same as Pirates or Transformers. Still, the Japanese composer minded to variate the original cue. Besides, "Battle" sounds like synth music.

[nuclearbox2]

Zimmer wrote the POTC original tracks and the percussion was filled in by badelt.

check wikipedia

[sort187]

Wow.....I don't know what to think....it's like the music was 'pirated'....X-D

[hmcindie]

That Endless Shock cue is from 2005-2007 so you can pretty much guess who copied who. I can give you a hint, it wasn't Klaus.

[gameproness]

Haha, yes, I totally agree, it sounds to almost the exact same.

[spudster007]

Endless Shock was from 2000...

[moeloehoe]

it is from 2003 it definitly is. believe that fact.

[DarkManXNL]

Yeah Pirates reminded me of Drop Zone as well, so for me there is no question who coppied whom. Besides, listen to Holst's Mars and compare it to Gladiator, that's about the same level of copying. But if you do it right it's fine. I liked how Kadama is a mix of Zimmer and Zelda though.

[streichorchester]

Wow, it's like Kamada imitated Zimmer's triple-metre, "Drop Zone" style so well that Zimmer's team in turn ripped it off for Pirates and no one was the wiser. 1:40 sounds like one theme in Pirates, 2:11 sounds like another, 2:18 another, 2:32 another, 2:48 another... I wonder if Kamada is aware of this.

[Bigred402]

hans zimmer can't write anything...

[gameproness]

How the hell do you know that?

[bla1879]

first...hans and klaus could have gathered inspiration from this, cuz there are differences in the music, and second...they could have bought the rights and youd never know...some people always gotta find the smallest things they think are wrong to pick out of great stuff!

[gregako]

Before you judge too quickly...

Listen to "Barbarian Horde" by Hans Zimmer. Around 4 minutes it sounds EXACTLY like "He's A Pirate". Gladiator was 2000 as well. AND Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt worked TOGETHER on POTC Soundtrack. There it is

[hommeboy85]

Uh oh