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@Purushadasa You're repeating the Kalam argument back to me? Please don't patronize me. All you've proven is that the universe MAY require a beginning. The thing is, even if I agreed with that, at what point does this "uncaused cause" suddenly obtain the theistic traits of emotion, intelligence, personality, intention, etc.?
In fact, I think the Anthropomorphic Principal is the main point at which the Kalam argument breaks down.
-IMP ;) :)
IceMetalPunk 1 year ago
1. I am an ex-atheist: I already know the other point of view, and I am not expressing my own point of view, I am expressing the absolute truth.
2. You have failed to provide evidence that God was "created." As soon as you provide that evidence, I will then ask you "who created God," but I have never posited that he was created, so I am under no obligation to provide a "who." One of God's qualities is eternal existence, so there was no point in time that he didn't exist.
Thanks for asking!
Purushadasa 1 year ago
no frend, i go in to show my point of view and to get in a lively debate. for the creation of god, u say that evrything has a begining. u r wrong. evrything that works with time has a begining. god doesn't work with time, time works with him. creation never existed b4 god and that is why we call him pantocrator. easy question.
soldier9718 2 years ago
Of course. But then, why is God the only exception? Why couldn't the universe itself exist eternally?
-IMP ;) :)
IceMetalPunk 2 years ago
because e=mc^2 . matter has to come from energy and he is the only true eternal energy.
soldier9718 2 years ago
You seriously misunderstand that equation. All E=MC^2 means is "the maximum potential amount of energy in a given mass is equal to the mass times the square of the speed of light." It says nothing about where matter comes from. Not to mention we've been able to create energy from matter (atomic bombs) and matter from energy (in some early experiments).
That shows no reason the universe itself can't be eternal.
-IMP ;) :)
IceMetalPunk 2 years ago
@IceMetalPunk Modern science has proven conclusively that the universe began to exist, which means that it did not exist eternally. This necessitates beginning to the universe (unlike God), which further necessitates an external cause, and that external cause is called "God."
Grasp simple logic much?
Purushadasa 1 year ago