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  • 4. The same people who argue against abortion also argue against tax which would be needed to pay to support the unwanted kids. Who will pay for the extra orphanges and school places and healthcare? Or you just want these kids born so they can die homeless junkies, teenage prostitutes, abused and unloved?

    5. The right have killed so many good people all over the world, the persecution of the left by the US is the story of the 20th C. Your hate for the common man disgusts me.

  • @epsoff You say so many kids will die of starvation if they are not aborted and then not taken care of, but aborting them doesn't save their lives, it just ends it sooner. and although I don't want the government to take my money to pay for someone else to lazy to work, I don't want people living on the streets, I want them working, making money, and supporting themselves. Also, i think abortion shouldn't be needed, because people should be responsible, and only have kids when they are ready.

  • @epsoff Do us all a favour and look up the terms "strawman" and "intellectual package deal" and then reexamine what you posted.

  • 1. Survival of the fittest means survival of the best adapted to it's environment, not the strongest.

    2. Believing in evolutionary theory to explain the development of life does not mean believing everything has to be a selfish fight.

    3. If you want to live in a safe and civilised country free from political violence and revolution, you have to pay tax so that poor kids have a chance to compete with rich kids, and so that you dont have to see people dying of TB on streetcorners.

  • I'm Conservative, but I believe a woman should have sovereignty over her own body, which makes me pro choice. However, you make a good argument that abortion is the shifting of responsibility in a lethal way. I think that's the best Pro Choice argument I've ever heard.

  • @lokanalol than that"sovereignty" you speak of.. shouldve been thought about BEFORE she had sex.. Takes to to tango.. So y does the male get no say? What if he wants the baby? Its made of his DNA too.. Im sorry, but when you lay down with someone, you assume the risk/responsibility of pregnancy.. Just so happens that nature decided the woman has to carry the child.. however, that gives her no right to abort her "problem".. deal with it.. Itll make you a better person..

  • @hooseyadaddy and if she was raped? Or does she still not have rights even then?

  • @lokanalol that is extremely rare.. But I'd tell any woman that if she is raped to take the Plan B pill immediately to prevent conception.. But if shes too stupid to do that and it becomes a baby then she has to carry it.. then put it up for adoption if she wants.. actually many women have aborted babies due to rape and they regret it.. To show love for a child, that was not made from love, is the EPITOME of love and understanding.. Many people would love to adopt but waiting lists r very long

  • @hooseyadaddy the only way abortion is ok to me is if sever birth defects are detected that will make their life hell... and no that does not include down syndrome..

  • @hooseyadaddy I don't agree with abortion and would never chose it in the same situation, but I'd be pretty upset if that choice was taken away from me. Since the dawn of man, every culture in the history of the world has sought to control the reproductive rights of women. If the roles were reversed, and men were the ones to get pregnant, there would be no pro life movement. No way in hell we would let women tell us what we can do with our bodies.

  • @lokanalol its not a legitimate choice.. its not your choice either.. what "choice" does the innocent child have? Why doesnt the father get a "choice"? Takes two to tango.. You sound like a woman and you are speaking from an emotional perspective and not a logical one.. U let the gov control other things about your body..Like prostitution, drug use, etc.. Yet u seem so hell bent on a womans "choice" to murder.. Y if a pregnant woman is murdered, the killer is charged with a double homicide then?

  • @hooseyadaddy u cant pick and choose when it is life for certain situations.. So if the woman wants it, it is life, but when she doesnt..well then its her "choice" to take that non-life? It is life.. period.. abortion is legalized murder.. people need to take responsibility for their actions.. not eliminate it through murder..

  • @hooseyadaddy a fetus is not a child. If you can call abortion murder, then you can charge pregnant women who drink, smoke, or avoid the doctors as child abusers and you can prosecute them. There are probably many that would love to have that level of control over women, especially mandated by the government. As a conservative, the idea of the government taking our freedoms away scares me.

  • @lokanalol ah.. there it is.. the whole a fetus is not a child crap.. Thats total BS.. It is one, not only that it has the potential to be a prosperous and successful adult.. it should be illegal to dring and smoke during pregnancy for the terrible side effects it has.. its not about control.. but accepting RESPONSIBILTY for your actions! Yes if u get pregnant u cant do the things u used to.. Not fro "control" but responsibilty.. Abortion is not a freedom guarenteed under the constitution!!!!

  • @lokanalol and when it comes to abortion we arent talking about your body now are we? We are really talking about killing the body of another human being.. its not yours.. its the childs.. dont be fooled into that propoganda.. i suggest you read up on Margaret Sanger and see the real reason for the abortion movement..Id be damned if im with my girl and she gets pregnant and wants to kill my child. My blood too.. Have the baby, then give it up.. and youll never have to see it again..

  • @hooseyadaddy This discussion is a waste of time. You think a cluster of undeveloped cells should have rights. I don't. The end.

  • @lokanalol you are a waste of time.. u damn fool u were once a "cluster" of cells.. you still are!!! so am i.. and there is a heartbeat after like 6-10 days.. thats a living organism tool.. guess what? u stop that heart thats killing.. U dont sound like a conservative.. u sound like an emotional moron.. use ur brain.. hey u know what? Mayber ur mom shouldve aborted you. yeah.. that woulda been nice of her.. sure as hell would save me time from conversing with idiots like yourself..

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  • liberalism is a disease and socialism is forced stagnation...

  • Very good. To the point. I would like to add that "persuit of happyness" was origonally refering to private properity rights. Without properity, there can be no freedom.

  • Against Bailouts? Good. That means you accept the freedom to fail. Which means you're also against social programs.

    Can't be against one and for another.

  • We evolved from the Cro Magnon. The difference between the Cro Magnon and the Neanderthal people were that the crogmagnon were social people who HELPED each other out of danger with language and planning. There are so many perspectives on evolution. The mainstream view of evolution is very stupid, i agree, but that doesn't make it a false theory.

  • Have you watched "Maafa", Black Genocide. I am White and pro-life, for Blacks especially insofar as Planned Parenthood is Eugenics in disguise. Yeah, for them Blacks are a blight on America. They take "Evolution" and twist it into genocide of Blacks. Human beings, although perhaps evolved from fish, are different, a new thing in the Universe. We are Human beings, Something essentially new under the sun! Don't treat me or any Black like shit. Obama I can't even bear to look at you any more!

  • so we should leave behind the poor since they cant afford medical bills so let them die

    also blacks should have been kept slaves since they needed people to fight for them to get their rights

    or how about people with autism like einstein lets not support them because they don't seem to function like normal people

    or how about a person who gets an injury from work wich permanently cripples him he should be left behind to since now he can't do his job anymore

  • JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. This typical consertive is doing what they all do:

    -He takes something that he believes Liberals believe in.

    -He then proceeds to say ALL liberals believe this.

    -Then he says ALL liberals think a CERTAIN way about this belief.

    -He then totally miscomprehends and alters the actual idea and makes it seem evil.

    -Throw in some religious hoo-ha and you got your typical conservative argument.

  • Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie .

  • @bonnevie9 no it isnt lololololol

  • I love the evolution argument.

  • Beleiving in the theory of evolution doesn't mean that you employ it as your means of living... Evolution is a process of small genetic changes that happen over LONG periods of time. I like what is said by this guy a lot of the time, but saying that "Because you believe in the concept of evolution, you must not be trying to counteract forces that harm others, you lay on your back." I believe in capitalism, and I also believe in evolution.

  • I agree with the basic rejection of socialism, but your arguments don't have to be so dependent on bashing the other side with straw man arguments.

    And, as a biologist, I believe anyone that denies evolution is either willfully ignorant or a fool.

  • You gotta love this kid! He says it like it is. Freedom means free of the government

  • Abrotion is the choice of the mother in her pursuit of happiness, your theorey on evolution where the fitist survive is old these days we live in comunities with all kinds of perks like doctors medicine medical research we dont need to watch the weak die anymore we can help them the best way to help your neighbour is to help your neighbour, our communities are so large these days we all live off of each other no matter how you word it so we might as well look after those who cant help themselves

  • @me001ist you are an idiot plain and simple. since when does pursuit of happiness rights mean more than the right to life. i have an idea let me kill you because that would make me happy. does that seem right? no and its the same with an unborn child. i have another idea try believing in freedom, its a nice thing.

  • @timetohoop Freedom, you mean like the freedom to choose whether or not to have an abortion

  • First time I have heard this guy, but he really gets it and cuts right to the point. Great video.

  • Did u know? clinton reformed welfare. No one receives welfare for a lifetime. The limit is five years, & requires most adults to work after two years. The 2008 Stats on totals paid is on 11s0585.pdf.. 3,795,000 on tanf, with a payout of 28,130 million. 1% of the people are on welfare in 2008. The people who do not pay taxes are those under the poverty level, those with children enough for the deductions, those on disability and rich who have found the loopholes and deductions..

  • You seem to assume that money and happiness are the same thing

  • "Heavens no, it's happiness!" *campy dance*

  • Oh Snap! That's Awesome!

  • Nice to see some ppl waking up problem is 47 % of ppl who govt assistance never get off rest of there lives

  • Nice to see some ppl waking up problem is 47 % of ppl who govt assistance never get off rest of there lives

  • Nice to see some ppl waking up problem is 47 % of ppl who govt assistance never get off rest of there lives

  • This man speaks facts and truth. Zo as President 2012!

  • Young and the Shameless was the best part

  • Give me liberty or give me death - But I would stay away from using your religious views as a basis of freedom. Religious immolation was the cornerstone of the middle ages don't forget. What about evolution of a FREE market? Religion has a bad rap historically and it dilutes the your message. Practice it but you can' t force others to accept your god or your religious beliefs (i.e. abortion is a womans right). Recall that some of the founding fathers were deists.

  • Keep rocking the scene with Truth as your weapon. Liberals cannot handle that weapon, because their strength is in Lies, but you will always beat them back with the power of your words. Don't ever give up!

  • i was going to listen to this guy until he started blabbing about "evolutionists" blah blah blah

  • Ever wonder why most highly-educated people are liberals and most HS drop-outs are staunch republicans... why dem ex-presidents all work to help the world and repubs vanish... Why repubs don't believe in evolution except when it comes to social darwinism (let the poor starve)..why every plank in the repub box is designed to enable personal greed...why repub posts are mostly all caps and curses? Because their ideology is the result of fear of everything. Fear based in ignorance and self-interest.

  • @Yavor54 Social Darwinism was Left-wing as eugenics came entirely from the Left. Repubs don't want the poor to starve, but that gov would be inept in assisting them. Greed? The real greed is socialism as it considers goods & services as rights & doesn't care that people's labor are required to produce & provide for them & promotes endless want for these "rights" w/o such consideration. BTW, there are many educated Repubs & non-educated Lefties.

  • @Yavor54 actually, the reason more conservatives drop out of high school is that they often take classes that require more academic prowess (mathematics, science, etc) because they often have family pressure to succeed in life. liberals take more abstract classes where there is a less concrete sense of correct/incorrect and are more so opinion based (art, theater, revisionist history, cultures). Ex dem presidents "work to help the world" because they are not totally drained by the liberal media

  • @KriegWaters - Oh, yea, staunch 16 year-old conservatives are "choosing"

    classes in HS that are more reality-based and have such family pressure to excel. All the pubescent Leninists are talking all art classes and German Philosophy? In High School? Oh, and Ex-repub presidents are all drained from being beat-up by Liberal media.. Fox has a 90+% Neilsen rating. It IS the mainstream media. Oh, there are just as many conservative professors as liberal? Really? Why the repub war on academia then?

  • Good job!

  • Zo boils it down in fewer words than even the sagest philosophers. Truth in brevity. Well done, sir.

  • I didn't like the Bush bailouts either, or other stuff he's done.

    So you're saying that the principals on which this nation was founded on are dead? Why should the US do anything b/c all the other nations are doing it? Especially when you look at what's happening in those counties

    Greece had to gut it's entitlement system and received international bailouts to prevent bankruptcy. Riots ensued.

    France increases Retirement age by 2 years. Riots ensued.

    Give ME liberty, or give me death.

  • American conservatism takes advantage of the worst in human nature. It argues that concentrating wealth in the top .5% of the population is the #1way to provide everyone a chance at earning. It argues that an un-regulated financial industry will provide the best environment for a prosperous economy. It posits that the earth is infinite in it's ability to soak up toxic waste. Lastly, it argues that arrogant avoidance of responsibility for one's own actions and fellow man is the road to happiness.

  • @Yavor54 , Republic conservatism is a fantasy. You have to be void of all logic of reality to believe in it. America is good, everyone else is bad. Big corperation have only the best intentions for its workers like Enron. The government will screw you, but big corporation will stick one in every orifice and wont even give you cab fare for a way home.

  • @HeadToucher - you got it. These greedy arrogant cleptocrats wrap themselves in religion and fake patriotism in order to get the average Joe's vote. Their triumph is that they have convinced Joe America to vote against his own best interest.

    Russia brainwashed their people with Radio Moscow, and these sycophants do it with Fox news. Same techniques, same outcome. Fox "news" is the mainstream media... with a 90+% Neilsen rating. Why do you think they call it "TV Programming"?

  • @Yavor54 You talk about brainwashing with FOX News, but what about the other side of the coin? MSNBC, CNN, and other major media outlets have been brainwashing Americans for liberals for far longer than FOX News. Do not make accusations on one side that you've not looked in the mirror for first.

    I will admit FOX is biased, but why, then, would Obama attack the Bloggosphere and independent journalists that are definitely NOT mainstream media? He's trying to limit our sources of information.

  • @Ping- If the truth is actually your goal, you have to admit that Fox is the first station to use the techniques it does. It aggressively promotes corporate interests and blames all society's ills on immigrants, intellectuals and Democrats. It makes regular news reporting seem left biased.

    Compare it to BBC- the world gold-standard- and BBC looks leftist. Fox promotes the destruction of any interests which might block the ability of multi-nationals to exploit the US population. It is Propaganda.

  • @Yavor54 you know nothing! if you were fair you wuld of said FOX, CNN, CBS, ABC, THE BBC, THE NEW YORK TIMES , NPR, THE VIEW, BILL MAHER, HBO, MSNBC, PBS ARE ALL PROPAGANDA

  • This guy is a moron cause he's generalization. I never heard of a liberal that expects the government to provide them happiness. Just Right-wing nut talk.

  • @HeadToucher How would you describe the basis for welfare, then?

  • @PingOnThis Its socialism. Just like socialism pays for police,fire fighters and prisons. Take away these institutions and lets see the rich fend for themselves

  • @HeadToucher Police and firefighters are NOT socialism. Just like the military is not socialism. Those things are services that the government provides to ensure that people's rights are not violated. Socialism is the practice of using the government to create programs to directly alleviate income gaps, IE: Welfare.

    Off topic, really, but the rich would do very well compared to the rest of us if we got rid of police and firefighters because they would just hire their own.

  • @PingOnThis The rich in America do fine by keeping people brainwashed. Canada and Europe are socialist . China is cummunist. Are society is a joke compared to these strong nations. Capatolism breeds crime and create economic and racial barriers between people.

  • @HeadToucher How is concentrating wealth in the government any better than natural concentration? As much as you bitch about how bad American capitalism is, for a very long time, before all the ridiculous social programs, we had one of the highest average standard of living in the world.

    You call China strong, but their strength has come by abusing and oppressing their peasantry, and even they are moving more toward the free market. They shoot people for trying to leave the country!

  • I can not believe anyone can listen to this guy and come away with me me me. The only thing he continues to say is were are responsible for ourselves in this life and the next..............I love this guy!!!

  • @aljan25 Your racist.

  • @aljan25 Isn't me me me the Randist conservative individualist mantra? Conservatives are all about "every man for themselves" which is pretty much me me me. Liberals are about "all for one and one for all". Liberals also understand that evolution and creationism are one and the same, God created life and made it evolve. Liberals' do not like abortion but understand that prevention has proven to be more effective than taking away a woman's choice.

  • @aljan25 There is nothing I can add to your comment except: I too love this guy!

  • Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money

  • @ThreeCatsScratching HEAR HEAR!

  • @ThreeCatsScratching like capitalism then :).

  • @angrydead No, capitalism is making your money and keeping it.

  • @ThreeCatsScratching haha no......

  • @ThreeCatsScratching aside from taxes, yes. I'm not giving my money that I earn to anyone.

  • The problem with socialism is that people are more interested in thinking of themselves than others. We always talk about unity but the free market totally defeats the purpose. All I can hear when this guy talks is "me me me I want for me, screw the other guy, sure babies are dying in our streets and I have extra pork on my plate but I am gunna feed it to my pet camaro"...

  • @DrewDubious Unity doesn't encourage people to better themselves, competition does. Monopolies (unified control of an industry or product) universally cause an increase in cost and decrease in quality.

    That's not to say you can't spend your money to feed someone else if you so desire, but socialism is taking my money without my consent to give it to someone else.

  • @PingOnThis Ah, I see. So you are saying being a good person is good, but being made to act like a good person when you arent, is bad.

    Unfortunatly, unchecked freedom obviously does not encocourage people to better themelves either. It actually encourages selfeshness, self preservation and deters compassion and humanity.

  • @Ping- We leftists don't want socialism, just like you don't want Nazism. We just lean in those directions. What we are saying is that the US has to have energy, transportation and financial policies which reflect the world's current situation. We need to present a face to the world that lasts more then 24 months. Because you guys will not work with us at all, this is no longer possible and the world is devaluing our currency to reflect this internal paradigm. E Pluribus Unim dude.

  • @Yavor54 the reason that we're resisting working with the left's leadership that while you may not want socialism, the people you keep electing to office seem to be pressing that agenda.

    The government is bailing out banks that should be allowed to fail, putting undue controls on health-care so that the government plan is all that is left, and extending unemployment so that those that aren't working still get paid are all socialist. Taxpayers still pay those bills. Money doesn't grow on trees.

  • Bail-out was Bush's policy, now you don't like it. Why did Bush do it? Because the last time the banks were let to fail completely, it resulted in a 50-year worker's movement. It gave birth to the current left -because we finally blamed who was at fault. Government health-care options are the rule in all civilized democracies except ours. Life expectancies are 7 years higher in these countries. Give me liberty and give me death? Return to the Bush years? No Way. WWII and it's ideas are over.

  • @Yavor54 FUCK SOCIALISM! AMERICAN IS BEATING IT BACK!

  • @Yavor54 Actually they are cutting back in services in countries w/gov-run health care, b/c the money has run out. We have lower life expectancy due to higher murder rates and car accidents. Still we have the highest rate of survival of cancer and heart disease. Besides so what if other countries have health care? Other countries had Fascism & communism.

  • @Yavor54 SOCILAISM IS NAZISM!

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  • Hell yeah, great video man! Keep it up.

  • American Liberalism takes advantage of the worst in human nature. It argues redistributionist theories that take advantage of the envy the poor have for the rich. It argues for more restriction and regulation that end up being barriers to entry into industry, delaying innovation and lowering quality of life for all. It argues onerous environmental regulation that effect dental clinics more than large-scale industries. Can people not see how backwards this system of beliefs is?

  • I like to apply his theory on liberals to all politicans.

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  • He speaks the truth which is why socialist, marxist liberals make rude comments about him.

    It's really hard for anyone to actually be told let alone have to look in the mirror.

    It's time to be held accountable for own self and stop blaming others for your

    as the basis for your victimization.

    This country already paid the price for your rights and freedoms which is why you are free.

    Giving in to this, not his, marxist theology will only make us lose our own freedoms you so cherish.

  • Personal responsability, accountability, what a concept. This guy is sic, according to my son. Which is awsome, and i agree.

  • What a fucking clown. So its just me, myself and I? That really will give people happiness. This stupidity is what is destroying america.

  • @Bigleg75 The stupidity demonstrated in your comment?Pursue your values individual values rather than try to force them on others.Everyone wants the same thing socially;we all want more health,wealth,etc.But this isn't achieved by a politician declaring"let there be more wealth."We pursue our own preferences and converge on the similarities;this is society.One may prefer to donate all to charity; another to spend for himself,stimulating others business. Either way its voluntary and socially good

  • @Bigleg75 You can turn to your community, friends & family to assist you in pursuing happiness. That's not the gov's job either.

  • wow, awesome truth!  nicely put together.

  • This man truly doesnt get it. America may have freed the slaves from forced labor but true freedom didnt come for another 100yrs. This man truly doesnt think for himself but he thinks like his white conservative buddies. This man will be the first in line looking for a government handout if he ever needed one to survive. This guy only has this job because he is black, semi hip hop, and regrugitates the same conservative rhetoric over and over again.

  • @thecaliforniaknight

    And do you know why it took so long? Because the Democrats kept making segregationalist laws to keep blacks 'in their place'. It's obvious that you are so often making Trollish comments on Alfonzos videos because you feel threatened by him.

  • @CoffeeCupGoodness

    Those Democrats were mainly located in the south which by far has been and always will be the most conservative place in America. Everyone knows the south has been the most right wing place in America hence the reason why blacks have almost never voted along side with the south.

  • @thecaliforniaknight

    You know what the problem with that theory is? Quakers.

    They regularly helped slaves escape. You don't get any more conservative than a Quaker. Jim Crow is a Democrat, as Zo often states in his videos. 

  • @thecaliforniaknight Liberal = more gov = less liberty. Conservative = less gov = more liberty. That means more liberty for Blacks & conservatives fought for Blacks' rights w/the Civil Rights Acts & Voting Rights acts, which libs opposed as they were in the Democrat party. JFK voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1960. Dems fillibustered against these Civil Rights Acts & worked against the 1964 act & Voting Rights Act of 1965.

  • @Aegius

    Those democrats were located in the mainly in the south and midwestern America. They were not liberals or progressive but conservative. Those districts and/or states that voted for the Civil Rights acts are now mainly democratic voting blocks. The Civil Rights Acts and Voting Rights acts are progessive ideas not Conservative. I left the defintion of both on your page. Im no liberal or progressive just because I disagree with this guy.

  • @thecaliforniaknight Un, no. Progressives favored eugenics & race-based laws. The Civil Rights Acts were authored all by Republicans including conservatives & got more dissent from Democrats. Democrat fillibusters made the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 & 1960 worthless. Don't give me old definition of Liberalism that applies to Friedrich Hayek or Milton Friedman. They have nothing in common w/Progressivism which means max gov.

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  • @thecaliforniaknight  You're a California liberal. The whole nation thinks you're an idiot.

  • @Darkrunner1975

    That makes no sense what so ever. Im not a liberal just because Im black and disagree with this puppet doesnt make me liberal. Thanks for generalizing.

  • This man has Uncle Tom syndrome.

  • @GTFOmyproperty The only true Uncle Tom's are you fools.

  • socialism is the only good one.

  • @flashash2k9 Oh ; yes indeed ask cubans, the ones that live under such called socialism

  • @JSTDG88 and lets look at britain a socialist country!

  • Liberals have no idea what they are doing to the country. They are only hurting it, not helping it. Stupid Obama, stupid Pelosi, Stupid Reid.

  • I love it when people who don't understand evolution, or don't know anything about biology start talking about "survival of the fittest." Empathy and cooperation is among the most important developments in nature due to natural selection; those that cooperate stand a bigger chance to survive than those that do not. It's free market fundamentalists (like this guy) who want a complete "survival of the fittest" to control us as human beings. That's why the US is turning into a shithole.

  • This guy lacks a brain, guess evolution was not too kind on the "brotha."

  • Basis of evolution is not the survival of the fittest. This guy lacks a brain, but I guess that's because he is black so I won't blame him.

  • "Liberals are mostly evolutionists who think they are humanitarians, you can't be both"

    WHAT.A.CROCK.

    Countries such as Denmark, Sweden, England and Japan all have majority populations that accept evolution. Please explain how the people in these countries are not humanitarians.

    We have healthcare for all, The government doesn't murder convicts, and we have lower rates of violent crime.

    Sounds to me like you're pulling facts out your ass.

  • @0ptikz He's talking about Competition behind the evolution theory. Redistribution of wealth to those who have not earned it is a sustaining of the weaker population, which is contrary to "survival of the fittest"

    He's not saying you don't give to the poor if you believe in the theory.

  • @rlnilson

    I understood what he's talking about. My point is that we don't apply evolutionary principles to social issues, at least not in the sense you may be thinking of.

    The whole 'you can't be liberal and believe in evolution' argument is bogus anyway, because if the people who used it actually knew anything about evolution, they'd know that altruism is a trait shared by all primates, us included. Why would we want to kill off a poorer populace anyway, what would that say about us?

  • @Continued

    What this guy is doing is trying to misrepresent and distort his opponents position. There are plenty of real discussions to to be had, but flat out lying like this serves nobody. At all.

    I don't care if you're conservative or liberal, but at the very least have a little honesty. There are millions of of people who stand in direct contradiction to what this moron claims. Anyone care to dispute this FACT?

  • @0ptikz I'd say he's referring more to the government side of it. Socialism is not the same as voluntary charity.

    I see what you mean though.

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  • Not only have these people stolen the American dream but they almost brought the whole country down! Every person that has got any where in this country has got there by cheating or F**King someone plain and simple! If you don't believe that your crazy! Look around and you will see! Its like a disease! No one plays by rules anymore!

  • Liberals don't want a free ride they want a fair chance at the American dream conservatives talk so much about! So they want the government to step in and give them that chance because lying cheating and stealing is not the way to the American dream!

  • @12Annuanki12 Everybody's given a fair chance at the American dreams, but years of failed liberal legislation and government expansion has tainted this idea. The problem with you so-called "progressive liberals" is that you guys assume everybody is a lying, cheating, stealing bastard.

  • @ThesisOfRock First of all I'm not a liberal second of all look around you, this whole freakin mess is from lying, cheating, stealing, wall street, republicans! Its kinda hard to get your piece of the American dream with someones foot on your head pushing you back under water! Look at Goldman Sachs, AIG, CITI, Madoff all freakin crooks that have stolen someones American dream! So they go to jail or get a slap on the wrist, but they never will get their money back! So who wins then?

  • @12Annuanki12 Yeah, all of those crooks also received bailout from the same government you think will solve the problem for us. You know, if government simply stays out of the economy and does not let corporations influence it (and vice versa), these "crooks" would have went belly-up.

  • @ThesisOfRock Yeah the old republican gave it to them because Obama didn't! Its called TARP!

  • @ThesisOfRock It's the other way around. Republicans think the people are lying, cheating and stealing bastards, and for that reason they should not have any say. Corporations should have all the say.

  • nope, the corporations just run a huge part of the economy so we can't just shit on them.

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 It's because of deregulation and low taxes that corporations became what they are. Now they know for a fact that they don't have any social or economic responsibility. They can take huge bonuses without making any profits, as they know that eventually the state will bail them out. That's the new free market. Socialism for the rich.

  • @ihatekhomeini Deregulation? You're smoking rocks. For the past several decades (since the New Deal) all the government has been doing is INCREASING regulation. If you want modern examples, look to Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae, govt takeover of the banks, Obamacare, etc. History shows it's crystal clear that corporatism and mercantilism have been the direct result of increased market regulation lobbied by corporations.

  • @ThesisOfRock The new deal regulations lastet up until the 70s, when the neoliberals slowly took over the state. Since then there have been massive tax cuts for the top 1% of the US population (that in itself is a form of deregulation as it opens up for the wealthiest to start controlling the financial institutions), and the financial institutions have been deregulated. Yes there are regulations, but those regulations are the result, as you point out, what has been lobbied by corporations.

  • @ihatekhomeini Lasted until the 70s? That is for the most part incorrect. We still have things like the SEC and the Fair Labor Standards Act, the latter of which is the reason why a lot of poor people who do work have to work two or more jobs. If you want to say tax cuts are a form of deregulation, I can say tax increases for Social Security is a form of regulation. The most notorious of New Deal regulation is the Federal Reserve itself, printing money until we become like 1920's Weimar Republic

  • @ThesisOfRock @ThesisOfRock There will always be some form of regulations. The importance is what kind. Today we have a system, in most countries, where regulations protect the rich on behalf of the poor. I think that is inherent in how capitalism develops, as corporations merge and create monopolies they get so much power that it is impossible for the state to be neutral. But the economy was much more regulated from new deal (30s) until the 70s.

  • @ihatekhomeini You're ignoring the fact that corporations get so much power because of lobbied regulation set forth by the govt. When that happened, it's called corporatism or mercantilism, not capitalism. If these protective barriers were removed, the corporations would be threatened by competition in their industry. Power would then be returned to the people and workers. Regulations can't be part of the problem and be the solution at the same time.

  • @ThesisOfRock I somewhat agree with you on that. However, I don't think a free market is possible since we will need a state in order to protect ourselves (any nation needs police and military), and state is reduced to that level the corporations will slowly take over police and military by lobby and propaganda. The people will be reduced to slaves of financial institutions. We can't get away from regulations.

  • @ihatekhomeini Well, the military falls outside the realm of our economy, and it will remain that way. That is an explicit power granted to the federal government. The existence of policemen and law enforcement, being a state issue, is ultimately up to the people to decide who provides law enforcement. But I don't think the people would allow the privatization of our military, nor does the Constitution permit it.

  • @ihatekhomeini The Capitalist system actually provides for police and military. In fact in the capitalist system military comes farther in defense techknowledgy, and Police function more effitiently because they have a shorter list of rules that can be broken. Things that could make a profit would be set up to do so, and not illegalized because a portion of society disagrees with it. In a socialist society many laws make criminals of otherwise law abiding citizens, and that is wrong.

  • @ThesisOfRock I would still call the US capitalist, because the regulations and institutions all favor capital. If a worker looses his job (in essence going bankrupt) nothing is done, if finance and capital is disrupted they are bailed out. To me that's what a free market will eventually turn into if it is ever achieved, because big corporations will never accept free competition, and use whatever necessary to hinder it. If all fails they will turn to tyranny.

  • @ihatekhomeini Any economical system favors capital, it would be foolish for a nation to try and operate without it. The differences lie with who controls capital. The govt shouldn't be permitted to give bailouts. If these companies are failing, it's a good indicator that their goods and services are inferior. For free market capitalism to work, it is ultimately up to the consumers and the people to make sure government and corporations remain separate entities.

  • @ihatekhomeini actually in a free market system there are no bail outs. There are no companies deemed "to big to fail" I think what you're probably more opposed to is the thought that there are no individuals "too small to fail" right along with it. A person that goes bankrupt and loses his job doesn't have a right in the least to be helped by anyone. Now if someone chooses to help him that is their right and he should be thankful, but nobody is born deserving help of any kind.

  • @ihatekhomeini Monopolies and corporations are a result of those very regulations you're talking about. They come together to lower their taxes at the end of the year and become more powerful then they were before. In the mostly capitalist society we had before the new deal (horrible idea that was..) companies competed and therefore didn't merge. Everything from the railroads to the big corporations today are the failures of regulators.

  • #3 The truth is refreshing when spoken with fairness and integrity. Too knowingly distort the truth only adds to your unwillingness to accept what the truth is. The liberals continued verbal assault (and straw man argument) directed at those who THEY see as different and superior only adds to their inferiority complex.

  • #1 The GOOD and Honest people who disagree with this regime are not the bigots or racists that liberals falsely proclaim them to be.

    John 7:24. There, Jesus tells us to judge, but to do so righteously. Righteously means to use the Truth.

  • #2 Liberals lack understanding of the truth, but feel it incumbent upon them to distort their meaning of the truth which in itself is rather disturbing (but I digress) however after carefully observing the many slanderous statements targeting those with differing opinions it should be evident to all those with any integrity that LIBERALS ARE THE ONE SPREADING HATE AND VIOLENCE.

  • Well said Zonation. Thank goodness for people like you.

  • Aw, isn't that cute! A Black Teabagger! Hey!! Now that they have officially ushered in Confederate Month, here's you chance to show you're REALLY one of them!

    YOU get to be guy on the auction block in shackles for the reenactments! Maybe even whipped! Won't that be fun? Oh, you must be SO proud to stand with them during this glorious month in which their predecessors assassinated Lincoln for freeing your ancestors.

    Keep it real, sweets. See you in Virginia!

  • @LadyeCatte Your a fag.

  • @TheSwedishAssassin And you're obviously as intelligent as snot... and it took only three words from you to ascertain that fact. Pity-ful....

  • @LadyeCatte Great. So....your a fag.

  • @TheSwedishAssassin A perfect example of the intelligence of the Teabagging movement. Go soak your head, you bigoted ignoramus.

  • @LadyeCatte And you're a big fag. You talk about equal rights among the races, yet once one person whom has different views as you and is black, he is automatically incapable of your approval and slap him on as a pawn. You don't understand the cold hard world of communism I experienced during the Cold War in Hungary, and are therefore an ignorant child who always jumps the gun. Besides, the fag thing is gettin' to you, I know it.

  • @LadyeCatte Oh, and btw most racist southerners have been and if you listen remain to be Democrat's, Carl "Can't get his facts straight" McDumboJob

  • @TheSwedishAssassin Sending me PM's complaining about my verbosity is childish, asinine, and further proves that those that follow this moronic rhetoric have about as much maturity- and intelligence- .. as you. And that's the biggest insult I could give anyone. Replying to you temporarily lowers my IQ so, rant on.. I'm ignoring you.

  • @LadyeCatte You're only helping to prove his point. This sort of attitude is what hinders unity among the people. By refusing to let go of what happened six generations ago and trying to hold people today responsible for it, you're perpetuating the very hate the you stand so strongly against.

  • @spades2 If I thought it was a "thing of the past", I'd be the first to let it go. My B/W heritage keeps me in the middle. Only a fool would think that ignoring something sinister would assist it into going away.

    The crap happening in Arizona is just one more bit of proof that it was only sleeping. This is the best chance the KKK has had in decades to return us to the way they had it.. and Teabaggers are paving the way.

  • two thumbs up ... Yeah for this guy !

  • Amen. Progressives are under the assumption that they can keep hiding in America. The con is over. You are not true Americans. You are socialists, plain and simple. I have no problem with liberals. I got problems with socialists who hide in both the democratic and republican party. The American people can not be conquered. We are awake. You will not take our country. We are willing to die for our country. Are you ?.

  • @fuzzybekool There are loads of socialists in the US. Specially those on the right wing, those who believe that losses among the corporations should be socialized, while losses among people whould be dealt with in a free market. I agre with them though, rich people deserve to be rich simply because they are rich, and more money should be thrown at them even if they are not productive. Like a feudal system.