There's still plenty of them in Toronto and considering the new bus garage and the battery problems in the new hybrid buses they'll need these buses until at least the battery issues are solved. 2011 is likely the last year for the New Looks here, unless the TTC changes its mind and decides it still needs them like it has in the past.
montreal edmonton toronto calgary should rebuild all gmc newlooks, classics, and d40 buses and keep them in service 6 more years. Ones just retired should be rebuilt. These buses with rebuilds every 6 to 7 years can run up to 38 years old. Much cheaper than buying lfsses and orion lowfloor buses that are cheaply made, low capacity and do not last as long. New buses 450,000 dollars a pop. 1997 ttc lowfloord already out of service. Province of ontario bad advice suggests buying them.
Well... After their rebuild, they don't bring it out in weekends. And sometimes the lift for accessible pax doesn't work and most of the time, the A/C doesn't work.
Sounds like the same couple issues with my 1991 TMC RTSes in Chicago CTA which they are currently retiring, and they were my favorite #1 Buses in America.
Well the the 1997/98s in Cleveland RTA and 1997-2002s RTSes with wider front doors like TTCs are doing just fine and will continue to be active for another 10 to 15 years.
We had few of 'em still in service in Montreal not too long ago,but now..they're memories...*cries* lol,I can't beleive the STM retired NewLooks to put Nova LFS's!!! AARRGGGHHH!!!
Well, at least you still have Classics that will live at least for some time. We're losing D901s, Classics, D40s and many New Looks for Orion VII which is frankly worse than the LFS by miles.
I remember taking these old gm buses as a kid here in the US in NYC, Boston, and Springfield, MA. Wow this really brings back memories. I am glad they still use them in Canada. Nice to see some historic preservation!
Well the TTC in particular didn't keep them for historic preservation. Infact they're here to prevent shortages where the newer buses had to be prematurely retired. These were kept mainly because they were inexpensive to maintain and are the most reliable in the fleet. These GM New Looks are common in Toronto and Edmonton in particular, Calgary still has quite a few.
every morning at wilson i see at least 1 and there are tonnes of them on the 52 lawrence service
smokey1858 1 year ago
i still see the odd new look cruising around here in halifax. they smell like shit now but still sound cool
atruerushfan 2 years ago
The New Looks have been retired years ago in my city :(
IXIBobOhIXI 2 years ago
There's still plenty of them in Toronto and considering the new bus garage and the battery problems in the new hybrid buses they'll need these buses until at least the battery issues are solved. 2011 is likely the last year for the New Looks here, unless the TTC changes its mind and decides it still needs them like it has in the past.
JeganV 2 years ago
I hope they do. Toronto just wont be Toronto without these buses with personality!
IXIBobOhIXI 2 years ago
montreal edmonton toronto calgary should rebuild all gmc newlooks, classics, and d40 buses and keep them in service 6 more years. Ones just retired should be rebuilt. These buses with rebuilds every 6 to 7 years can run up to 38 years old. Much cheaper than buying lfsses and orion lowfloor buses that are cheaply made, low capacity and do not last as long. New buses 450,000 dollars a pop. 1997 ttc lowfloord already out of service. Province of ontario bad advice suggests buying them.
newflyer500 5 years ago
i also have to add that the LFS really look crappy. the RTS are pretty good buses and are still in shape
ttcgeek 5 years ago
The RTS could last 40 years.
qwandiddy 3 years ago
Well... After their rebuild, they don't bring it out in weekends. And sometimes the lift for accessible pax doesn't work and most of the time, the A/C doesn't work.
ttcgeek 3 years ago
Sounds like the same couple issues with my 1991 TMC RTSes in Chicago CTA which they are currently retiring, and they were my favorite #1 Buses in America.
qwandiddy 3 years ago
I don't see how our RTSs can screw up after 10 years of service. They were delivered in 1998.
ttcgeek 3 years ago
Well the the 1997/98s in Cleveland RTA and 1997-2002s RTSes with wider front doors like TTCs are doing just fine and will continue to be active for another 10 to 15 years.
qwandiddy 3 years ago
I meant 1997- 2002s in Dallas DART.
qwandiddy 3 years ago
really? didn't know that there was something worse than LFS lol...
mtlguy112 5 years ago
Considering that I'm 5' 11' and can't fit into the seats in the back, the wheels squeal, and there's only 30 something seats, I'd say theyre bad
FortunaFortesJuvat 5 years ago
We had few of 'em still in service in Montreal not too long ago,but now..they're memories...*cries* lol,I can't beleive the STM retired NewLooks to put Nova LFS's!!! AARRGGGHHH!!!
mtlguy112 5 years ago
Well, at least you still have Classics that will live at least for some time. We're losing D901s, Classics, D40s and many New Looks for Orion VII which is frankly worse than the LFS by miles.
JeganV 5 years ago
I remember taking these old gm buses as a kid here in the US in NYC, Boston, and Springfield, MA. Wow this really brings back memories. I am glad they still use them in Canada. Nice to see some historic preservation!
burbank 5 years ago
Well the TTC in particular didn't keep them for historic preservation. Infact they're here to prevent shortages where the newer buses had to be prematurely retired. These were kept mainly because they were inexpensive to maintain and are the most reliable in the fleet. These GM New Looks are common in Toronto and Edmonton in particular, Calgary still has quite a few.
JeganV 5 years ago