Seventeen. A glorious age for a girl. Having left her childhood body behind, she enjoys parading the new Carmen. She is fully aware of the heads that turn when she passes by. She'll give them a little bit extra to look at too. A shake of the hips. A wink of the eye. But no more.
@LadyBern Carmen fancies herself a femme fatale perhaps. But inside she knows that all she wants is a little bit of attention. From a warm and handsome man, perhaps. Who can keep her safe. Hold her tight. With a strength that approaches violence. He doesn't need to be as wild as she is, but it wouldn't hurt.
according to the stories about of what happen to these girls the developeres said the game story should be let to the player to think what's happen to them so if you think about after carmen met her wolf the lumberjack she have sex with him and then he have killed her and burid her under the tree it's ok or they have sex and then she gose to her grandmother's house and then she layd on the bed regreting to lost her virginity that's also ok.
One of the flashing pictures shows a red X over her face. Which either means: A, he slept with her and used her. Or B, he slept with her and promptly killed her. Actually, even though they come back at the end, I could assume that the latter was what occured.
In the flashing pictures u see the image of the lumberjack when she falls on the bed. I think the tree in her bed and the pictures led to her having sex and gettin pregnant but feeling alone and regreting what she has done just to fit in. I also think the axe and the fire could be abuse from the lumberjack him hurting her so much that she feels dead inside.
Yeah, that dude sexed , chopped her up and buried her under a tree. This is by far the most creepy, unnerving and disturbing game I've played to date. I'm a grown assed man but playing this I actually felt like a vulnerable little girl surrounded by danger. Yeeesh!
My take is Carmen had sex with the woodcuter but came to regret it because she got pregnant later. Like, the tree sprouted from the bed could be a metaphor for a child sprouted from bed. The woodcuter took advantage of her and intoxicated her with the prospect of sex (giving her beer, but not drinking his) and then during the act there was no passion (thus the fire was not lit next to them). You can tell esp since the girl in white ran away when they sat next to the fire (loss of virginity).
my guess is since that carmen wanted attention especially from men she felt that she can get it by doing what they want. and that means drinking with him and even having sex with him...but then the man leaves her after using her and taking her virginity leaving her guilty and remorseful even though she wanted it.
My theory is that Carmen and the woodcutter had sex, but afterwards Carmen felt like he had used her, and regretted losing her virginity before she was ready. She'd only had sex because she wanted to fit in, not because she loved him. The saws and fire represent Carmen's pain, both physically during her first time, and emotionally due to her regret.
I'd say that Carmen fell in love with a woodcutter, probably married him, had a nice life, but then he dumped her. Maybe the one she loved cheated on her, which could explain all the unpleasant noise when going up the stairs. And the woodcutter sort of started to abuse Carmen. Maybe all the saws stands for violence? And fire for hatred?
This is very confusing, and it probably has many means. I also agree with that she probably lost her virginity to, and she lost it to an awful man.
That one line 'The savior is the destroyer' from an item she looked at (can't remember which one) made me think she had an abortion, and all the cutting imagery belonged to that, as did the idea of a tree growing in her bed (from where a seed is planted!) Something about her sexualizing herself without realizing the consequences of sexuality, anyway... Her thinking being with a man means not being alone anymore, that idea changing. (...You ain't alone with a baby in ya!)
Even the little song she's singing, despite the air of sex and danger, shows that deep down she still has her innocense. The hallway with branches, 6:34 is her frustration clouding her judgement. Obscuring her vision and making her try with people who may be less than safe. Long story short, I think she's trying to grow up too fast.
I think she's a virgin. She constantly tries to act more mature than she is, tries to get men to take advantage of her. The Xs represent targets, yet no matter how she tries her own tree is never marked. She's nearly an adult, and is full of sexual frustration (burning hallway 7:08) She tries to flirt with the lumberjack, but he denies her, so she sees him as mean. She feels she's the only one who's a virgin, that she's alone in her frustration. (chair on the mattress, away from the others 5:44)
Now for a serious post. I think everyone agree that Carmen's wolf was first time sex, but I belive there is more to it.
Carmen didn't want to get married for money, she wanted to choose whom she get married at - she is searching for love. But where she search for love, she finds only sex. Lust is Carmen's wolf.
this was probably the chapter most alluding to sex with moaning and the flirting plus if you pause at 7:36 you can see her doing something that is kinda naughty i guess
She found a guy who insisted she drink so she did and they end up having sex. She learns shes pregnite and when he finds out he cuts her up with his ax because he has a girl friend whos her friend and he will get grief if his girlfriend finds out about the party sex
yea there's a flash of a picture at the end with the woodsman in a chopping position and and X on Carmen's face. She could have thought they were gonna do it then just like one of the rooms flipped upside down found out he was more interested in chopping her up =\
@Kitama23 I agree with you about the symbolism. Not sure why people thought Carmen gets killed though. Then again, abstract art can confuse people like that so its a bit understandable
the blog said that the woodsman is obsessed with chopping trees that never fall and can't be bothered with carmen right now, so you can guess that he's nuts. the impression i got was that they did have intercourse and it went from slow and mellow as you go up and up the walkway to rough and painful. the burning logs gave me the impression of an internal burning feeling. also she's drinking alot more then he is so the bushes that appear going up could be a cloudy mind. X might mean his focus atm
well i guessing he treat her like a toy since the mili second picture at 7:36 shows her with that indent in lego figures and her head the wrong way round, also the chair was white that could mean pure <-(virgin) sat on top off a red matress so i could of meant she was in clear sight of danger
@TR4Alwayz White also has the ability to mean "cold" and the chair was elevated. While it could symbolize purity, it could also symbolize a haughty disposition, a princess complex, as it were. With the chairs all empty, and the audience underwater, that particular trait's definitely been ruined.
My theory about Carmen is that she wanted to become an adult by having sex(or she just wants to do it~), but she didn't really think about protectsion and so she became pregrant(the tree growing from the bed symbolizing the unwanted pregrancy).
What I think happened was Carmen was looking for a little fun, and started fliritng with this woodsman. At first he was hesitant, but after a while of drinking(which happened AFTER it faded to black), they decided they'd take it to the next step. At this point, Carmen was pretty drunk, and willing to do anything. When they actually started though, the woodsman did something that Carmen didn't want to do, and, in a drunken rage, raped her, and killed her.
Hmm, what if the X means something that must be done!? Like a check list of things, I mean the woodsman is chopping down each tree with an x. What if Carmen is "Marked" with an x symbolically and he ends up having sex with her because of it. Likewise each door is marked with an x, which might have something to do with the fact that you must pass them regardless of feelings towards them. In fact, has anyone thought of why this is true, why we must go forward in the grandmother's house?
@PezPiece I mean I'm not particularly sure because I haven't played the game enough but the anonymous girl can take you back to the path right!? You can finish each game without having to meet the wolf but you must press on through the house. Crazy!
Carmen is the girl that wants to have a man. And she'll stop at nothing to get what she wants. The fire in the house and the wooden places show this, and the fact that there is really nothing accomplished from getting everything she asks for. The 'X' on the door has two meanings: 1)that Carmen will go in deeper than she ever wanted to, and 2) That she will be cut down (METAPHORICALLY!) if she does not change. Her walls are bare and wooden, showing the frailty she actually has.
the tree in grandmother's bed i think that tree is grandmother.
her wolf may be the man she wants to be with, she feels lonely, she wants a happy life, but the wood on fire the X on her face and the tree in the basement cut down may mean that the love of her life is killing her, the love of her life, is her wolf.
Carmen's story is about flirting and getting married or something.
@tranvozcaya jeez! JUST THOUGHT! THE GIRL IN THE WHITE DRESS!!! SHE COULD BE THE SEVENTH SIN!!! *REVELATION* now, which could she be... im going to look now :P
Since this game is about growing up, I believe that after each girl "experienced" something (experience is the best teacher as my mother always told me) they lost what was once deemed "innocent" they are not pure anymore, as they've grown up and learned more about the world around them, here's how I see it:
Robin learns that the world isn't full of sunshine and rainbows.
Rosie learns that curiosity kills
Ginger learns of homosexuality (which is deemed "unclean") and that she'll never be a boy.
As for the girl in white, she represents "innocence" and "If I could do this over again and change my fate I would...." meaning she may have been the "What if?" factor or a symbol of "moving forward", or "if they could do it all again and have a better outcome for their future.." (which brought all the girls back in the end)
@Clanitz Tt\hat because they are younger doesn't mean they are less important than the olders. Oh Rose my dear... you always have head in the clouds! You always dream too much! You have to grow up! Abandon those silly dreams and fantasies! One day you can get hurt cause of your recklessness! I love dreaming just like Rose and I'll never abandon my dreams and fantasies!
- the 'X' she puts upon herself is permanent. Once she's gone far enough to make herself a toy in the eyes of the men she desires, there's no going back. She'll always be that next tree to cut down for them, and that is her wolf; no man, so long as she continues desperately seducing them, will every emotionally invest in her.
The 'X' is the mark put upon any tree for cutting down. It's an objective symbol of consumption; once painted, a tree is mercilessly taken. A conquest, you could say, that transfers to Carmen. Carmen, who so readily vies for the attention of men (possibly due to a lack of a father figure - the parents never are discussed in the game) seeks to seuxally objectify herself in the eyes of males, because it makes her much more easy to approach. However, she doesn't realize that when she does this, -
There are a lot of theories on what this one means, but the walk through Grandmother's house tells a lot too, if you get the secret rooms. As you're going "upstairs" in the shack-like room, over the sound of a manual saw cutting, you can hear a woman moaning--and not just once, but repeatedly, in unmistakable tones. The X could stand for rejection, but it also stands as a mark of something to be 'axed', so to speak. She probably lost her virginity, and felt guilty after, despite being willing.
If you pause to look at the picture of Carmen at 7:30 you notice an X on her face. Judging from all of the x's on the doors, and previous theories, I would agree that she was rejected by the lumberjack and saw that relationships are nothing to play with; in turn, Im retty sure she grew from it.
i wonder how lil red riding hood wouldve come out if the lumberjack actualy raped her in the story and never saved granny......Oh well.....we will never know.....
That's obvious, she got raped, because she went too far and got sex instead of flirting. And...don't you think it happened in the shed? I mean, what for it was there? She couldn't even open it, but still it was important for some reason...And in the house, we can see the shed being inside of it, even though we couldn't at the camp site. That's it: after rape the shed is opened...
While this game isn't as fun as a number of others, it's very clear by the comments to this video (and related ones) as to how much more thought-provoking it is than 99% of other games.
Just finished this part of the "game", for lack of a more seasoned term. Best 5 bucks I ever spent!
My wolf moment was a bit more ambient-- I'd lit the fire, and I had been wandering around the woods for a long long time-- so it was practically pitch black at the campsite.
You bolted through the "sex stairs" , haha. This was the first time I'd gotten "Success" (Yeah, right..) so I was creeping through those moaning sounds inch by inch. Talk about creepy.
whether it is consensual sex or not, it didn't ended well for Carmen. there is a picture of her cut in half at 7:29, and several pictures of the guy lifting up his axe in the flash part.
That hectic static kind of music/noise - sort of like it keeps glitching? That terrifies me. Even more so if it keeps going on - like it does here. These designers are genius, and I am completely conflicted over whether I'm glad or not that I don't have the hardware minimum to run this properly.
and the tree in the middle of the bed represents her loosing her virginity. the part where we see her with the X like someone said before represents her Beying a tsrget for the woodcutter wheter is too kill her or not i dont know but i think is more in the Sexual type.. or it could mean she got rejected.
what i think hapened is realy simple..this might be the simplest ending here. i dont think she died. She did had sex. (probably consensual since she was the one who flirted) . and we know that because of the moaning, and at the same time we hear woodcutting sounds that probably represents him cutting her inocence (virginity)
so like, is there a point to the game? or is it just to see like, a clever allusions to the faults of the human heart or some thing deep like that. haha
Well I assume she had sex. If you pause the pictures she's bent over in most of them.
In one picture, it looks like she's cut in half, her bottom half is bent downwards, while her upper half is bent facing upwards. It looks in half because of the black of her clothing 'splits' it. But that's very weird.
I think "The Wolf" that is a sexual cripple. Therefore, she had an affair and he had a lot of wood carved in the "X" I think it was the meaning of infertility. I got obsessed with the relationship, but Carmen will die eventually. In this local place, at the end of the story is having a baby died, but my personal opinion I think will fail.
i've never played this game and it seems like a really good game although it seems confusing. so i was wonder why is her head hanging to the side when she on the bridge. and about how some of you suggested the lumberjack raped her or maybe they had sex and now she regrets there seems to be some sort of evidence because if you didn't notice, every time the person stops moving her, she puts her head in her hands like she is upset.
Just something I found interesting. Seems most people say that sound when she's going up the spiral is a wolf panting with the woman moaning... But in addition to that, with the woodsman theme, it sounds a 'lot' like them cutting down a tree with a saw. :)
@arsenewenger Yes, red often signifies passion and romance, yet it can also signify danger and blood. In a way, you can say that the foreboding future of each girl is already predetermined in the game because they're splashed in red clothing.
Red also signifies trauma and intensity, which I think really symbolizes each of these girls' situation. But yes, I do think in Carmen's case, the red signifies romance, even sex, but also intensity and trauma from her little adventure's end result.
not saying anything is right or wrong, but as carmen is spiralling up the stairs/hallways, you can hear a woman moaning (sexually?) and chopping wood so maybe she got drunk, had sex with the woodman, regretted it and collapsed in front of the house
so she was raped by the lumberjack and he then killed her afterwards? why are all the "success" endings end up the girls dieing shouldnt that happend if you fail?
@VampDDR When you read the game's story line you'll probably get the jist that it is insinuating that a girls' curious and disobedient nature (could be biblically referring to Eve eating the apple) eventually leads them to their own demise.
The whole Little Red Riding Hood story can be interpreted to be a girl's curious nature and that the wolf is their sins/temptations. Ultimately, they successfully find their wolf but die from the consequences of getting off the path. I hope i made sense lol.
@VampDDR Sorry to reply a little late xD But controvertially, The Path's theme seems to be trying to teach its players that following a direct path in life will only bring you directly to death, and you wouldn't have really 'lived', which can be seen as failure.. If you deviate from this structure, you have tried to live your life. All in all, it goes to show that life is what you make of it, and in order to have a fulfilling life, you should learn to live alittle.
To me, this seems like the story of a girl that flirsted to get a man (who was originally not at all interested) to pay atttention to her, irresponsibly downs a beer, and, drunk, ends up getting him to do something. And when she walks to the house, she doesnt really look hurt, just hungover.
Okay, so Carmen starts openly flirting with a woodsman who shows absolutely no interest in her, and who, in spite of having an axe, does not appear threatening at all. She mopes about and helps herself to some of his beer, downing it like a marathon runner glugging gatorade. The woodsman takes one sip. One. And then we fade to black and the woodsman spontaneously turns into a crazed mad-axe murderer? I heard a more plausible theory. The 'X' stands for rejection. The woodsman said no.
@LetsPlayMaldeus That woodsman is her wolf, so he like planned for it to happen, it's like Carmen is hypnotized by her wolf.
And that X does not mean rejection, when a woodsman puts an X on a tree it means he's going to cut it down, so he put an X on Carmen, showing he is going to kill her.
It seems to me that Carmen was seeking to be flirtatious and basically got more than she bargained for. The lumberjack was her very manly love but he defiled her (as he does the trees with the X's, as she gets one). The tree at the end is both a phallic symbol for his violation of her and continues the motif of the woods and the lumberjack having severed her innocence (and most likely killing her). I personally don't see the whole childbirth thing, but there;s no right or wrong answers.
I think Carmen was flirting with a older lumberjack man and ment for it to be nothing more then a little flirting and a beer. The Lumberjack then raped her and killed her with an axe... I think...
I think that they put the 0/3 items thing in purposely. I'm pretty sure that the ratings screen is ironic and means for you to feel crappy so you will never get an "A" because that's not what the game is about and if you are looking for that they want you to be unsatisfied. When I was playing the game reported multiple times a different items collected and rooms opened score than what I had actually done.
I would say she was raped, but the moans in the hallway suggest she was willing at first. Maybe he had sex with her and killed her afterwards.
I think in this game the beds are supposed to represent their final "resting" place. She was, perhaps, buried under a tree after it was all said and done.
Not every single detail need represent or symbolize something (I've heard some pretty far-fetched stuff where this game is concerned), but Carmen here, whose character description on the website confirms has developed an interest in men and sex (at this point in her life and maturity), seems to have met with "the wrong sort" of man, who hurt her. Not necessarily physically (as in rape, etc), but emotionally. Hence Carmen's "death," death rarely being literal in this game.
Certainly 4chan worthy humor. While I agree with your point I think it is a bit, uhh, extreme I suppose. I think that Carmen actually has a lot in common with Misato from NGE actually, when you read the websites description of her.
Sex plays a strong role in this particular character's part in the game, but there's little sign that she (A) had a child by the man or (B) *actually* died at all in the game itself. "Death," in this game, is largely figurative.
We hear cutting sounds all through the house too, reminding us of the woodcutter.
When she reaches the bed, we see a full tree in it, still alive & growing - which maybe suggests that Carmen's tree hasn't been felled quite yet *wink wink*. The tree also suggests emotional growth - she found out that her ideas of romance before were a little immature, and she has to grow as a person before she's ready for an adult relationship.
I thought the axe, in this case, was more of a phallic symbol and the tree in the bed represented growth - but I can see where you're coming from! There are no definitive answers in The Path, so what do I know?
My theory is just what I got from the game, the imagery is purposely left open to interpretation, and coming up with new theories is half the fun!
Thank god that there is at least one other person who doesn't watch this and immediately think 'oh noes he raepd her and tehn kiilod with axe'. The woodcutter, in fact, barely seems interested in her. She's the one doing all the flirting.
I agree up until the point of the X representation. If you look closely at the end, the stills flashing show Carmen with a giant red X on her face. She's a target, a goal, like the other trees he tore down.
Yeah. And if you pause at 7:32, you can see the image of the man holding his ax as if he's about to swing it. The view is of someone looking up. That combined with the image of Carmen on her knees and then with the x on her face makes me think that her ending was even more terrible than rape alone.
I'm not convinced that any of the girls died, with the possible exception of Rose.
I think the imagery of the man with the axe (phallic symbol!) is more a metaphor of how violated she felt after he took advantage of her.
On the game's official page, it says that Carmen is a flirt, but strongly indicates she's never gone any farther.
To me the Xs and the axe represent the way this man "marked" her as a sexual conquest, raped her, and left her broken (dead if you like) on the inside.
Seventeen. A glorious age for a girl. Having left her childhood body behind, she enjoys parading the new Carmen. She is fully aware of the heads that turn when she passes by. She'll give them a little bit extra to look at too. A shake of the hips. A wink of the eye. But no more.
LadyBern 6 days ago
@LadyBern Carmen fancies herself a femme fatale perhaps. But inside she knows that all she wants is a little bit of attention. From a warm and handsome man, perhaps. Who can keep her safe. Hold her tight. With a strength that approaches violence. He doesn't need to be as wild as she is, but it wouldn't hurt.
LadyBern 6 days ago
But why is leaving the patch and encounter the wolf and die is success? Why is not leaving the path and still be alive is fail?
IVforGTA 6 days ago
7:33
Now that's not scary, that's just funny, Btw I know what the X mark means.. xD
allmykidsmum 3 weeks ago
I don't think Carmen was the only thing that was raped during this video...
fireemblemtard9 1 month ago
according to the stories about of what happen to these girls the developeres said the game story should be let to the player to think what's happen to them so if you think about after carmen met her wolf the lumberjack she have sex with him and then he have killed her and burid her under the tree it's ok or they have sex and then she gose to her grandmother's house and then she layd on the bed regreting to lost her virginity that's also ok.
fareedbakhit 2 months ago
One of the flashing pictures shows a red X over her face. Which either means: A, he slept with her and used her. Or B, he slept with her and promptly killed her. Actually, even though they come back at the end, I could assume that the latter was what occured.
Maria30588 2 months ago
In the flashing pictures u see the image of the lumberjack when she falls on the bed. I think the tree in her bed and the pictures led to her having sex and gettin pregnant but feeling alone and regreting what she has done just to fit in. I also think the axe and the fire could be abuse from the lumberjack him hurting her so much that she feels dead inside.
SarahKateJ 3 months ago
The small chairs make me think she felt alone, unwanted, small or invisable.
SarahKateJ 3 months ago
Yeah, that dude sexed , chopped her up and buried her under a tree. This is by far the most creepy, unnerving and disturbing game I've played to date. I'm a grown assed man but playing this I actually felt like a vulnerable little girl surrounded by danger. Yeeesh!
dafullclip 4 months ago
what a huge house 0.0
1eonCyru5 4 months ago
I'm getting the feeling the lumber jack guy had his way with her then chopped her up.
ZooBuddyDoo 4 months ago
My take is Carmen had sex with the woodcuter but came to regret it because she got pregnant later. Like, the tree sprouted from the bed could be a metaphor for a child sprouted from bed. The woodcuter took advantage of her and intoxicated her with the prospect of sex (giving her beer, but not drinking his) and then during the act there was no passion (thus the fire was not lit next to them). You can tell esp since the girl in white ran away when they sat next to the fire (loss of virginity).
IdiotProdigy 4 months ago
my guess is since that carmen wanted attention especially from men she felt that she can get it by doing what they want. and that means drinking with him and even having sex with him...but then the man leaves her after using her and taking her virginity leaving her guilty and remorseful even though she wanted it.
naruto3k5 5 months ago
Lets play with out a volume :)
BRENKER99 6 months ago
My theory is that Carmen and the woodcutter had sex, but afterwards Carmen felt like he had used her, and regretted losing her virginity before she was ready. She'd only had sex because she wanted to fit in, not because she loved him. The saws and fire represent Carmen's pain, both physically during her first time, and emotionally due to her regret.
LeRach 6 months ago 4
I'd say that Carmen fell in love with a woodcutter, probably married him, had a nice life, but then he dumped her. Maybe the one she loved cheated on her, which could explain all the unpleasant noise when going up the stairs. And the woodcutter sort of started to abuse Carmen. Maybe all the saws stands for violence? And fire for hatred?
This is very confusing, and it probably has many means. I also agree with that she probably lost her virginity to, and she lost it to an awful man.
aenople 6 months ago
I know that he's supposed to be chopping trees but why does it sound like he's mining for gold?
MiddleEasternBorder 6 months ago
That one line 'The savior is the destroyer' from an item she looked at (can't remember which one) made me think she had an abortion, and all the cutting imagery belonged to that, as did the idea of a tree growing in her bed (from where a seed is planted!) Something about her sexualizing herself without realizing the consequences of sexuality, anyway... Her thinking being with a man means not being alone anymore, that idea changing. (...You ain't alone with a baby in ya!)
deid4lit 7 months ago 2
@deid4lit Wow I can't believe I never thought of that meaning she had an abortion... You are pretty clever
Blashyrkh22 6 months ago
Now that I think about it, this game really reminds me of killer7. Psychedelic insanity at its finest!
fourchanner 7 months ago
Either this is the weirdest, stupidest game I've ever seen, or I'm too dumb to understand it...
Kvokki 8 months ago
@Kvokki The game isn't stupid. The point of it is really character development in a creepy forest, with a creepy grandma and he twisted house.
peoplewhoplaygames 7 months ago
Right before it fades out, the very last image it "flashes" to is the kid at the beginning with the axe. :O
azuritereaction 8 months ago
evry1 is doing interpretations, yes? well can someone please interpretate to me what the lady leaving the tent at 1:19 means? thnx
jordierox2 8 months ago
Even the little song she's singing, despite the air of sex and danger, shows that deep down she still has her innocense. The hallway with branches, 6:34 is her frustration clouding her judgement. Obscuring her vision and making her try with people who may be less than safe. Long story short, I think she's trying to grow up too fast.
xemerzis 8 months ago
I think she's a virgin. She constantly tries to act more mature than she is, tries to get men to take advantage of her. The Xs represent targets, yet no matter how she tries her own tree is never marked. She's nearly an adult, and is full of sexual frustration (burning hallway 7:08) She tries to flirt with the lumberjack, but he denies her, so she sees him as mean. She feels she's the only one who's a virgin, that she's alone in her frustration. (chair on the mattress, away from the others 5:44)
xemerzis 8 months ago 3
Creepy pedophile lumberjack... even if she was willing that's still fucked up!
GreenGem24 9 months ago
The chopping of the trees represents the loss of virginity- a tree that has been cut down can never go back to it's original state.
xXShogizzleXx 9 months ago
Now for a serious post. I think everyone agree that Carmen's wolf was first time sex, but I belive there is more to it.
Carmen didn't want to get married for money, she wanted to choose whom she get married at - she is searching for love. But where she search for love, she finds only sex. Lust is Carmen's wolf.
KazeKoichi 10 months ago 2
Thanks for this, saved me a lot of time trying to find those last few items.
CorrosiveTruths 10 months ago
this was probably the chapter most alluding to sex with moaning and the flirting plus if you pause at 7:36 you can see her doing something that is kinda naughty i guess
DESnuts91 11 months ago
She found a guy who insisted she drink so she did and they end up having sex. She learns shes pregnite and when he finds out he cuts her up with his ax because he has a girl friend whos her friend and he will get grief if his girlfriend finds out about the party sex
TheInfiniteGlitch 11 months ago
@TheInfiniteGlitch ....uh
ExodusExplicit 10 months ago
yea there's a flash of a picture at the end with the woodsman in a chopping position and and X on Carmen's face. She could have thought they were gonna do it then just like one of the rooms flipped upside down found out he was more interested in chopping her up =\
skydreia 1 year ago
@skydreia It's symbolizing being used, she sleeps with someone(her first someone) and they do not love them whatsoever. GET IT GET IT
Kitama23 10 months ago
@Kitama23 I agree with you about the symbolism. Not sure why people thought Carmen gets killed though. Then again, abstract art can confuse people like that so its a bit understandable
WeaponXSigma 9 months ago
@WeaponXSigma I thought so because her face is full of blood and there is a lumberjack cuttign at the end
chaoslord648 8 months ago
the blog said that the woodsman is obsessed with chopping trees that never fall and can't be bothered with carmen right now, so you can guess that he's nuts. the impression i got was that they did have intercourse and it went from slow and mellow as you go up and up the walkway to rough and painful. the burning logs gave me the impression of an internal burning feeling. also she's drinking alot more then he is so the bushes that appear going up could be a cloudy mind. X might mean his focus atm
skydreia 1 year ago 3
I wish I found this scene when I played, the music is creeping me out.
And poor Carmen.
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twoteekay 1 year ago
the tree penetrating the bed= loss of virginity.
HewoGuy 1 year ago 4
@HewoGuy probably loss of being able to have sex for a month to lol
Fillex51 1 year ago
well i guessing he treat her like a toy since the mili second picture at 7:36 shows her with that indent in lego figures and her head the wrong way round, also the chair was white that could mean pure <-(virgin) sat on top off a red matress so i could of meant she was in clear sight of danger
TR4Alwayz 1 year ago
@TR4Alwayz White also has the ability to mean "cold" and the chair was elevated. While it could symbolize purity, it could also symbolize a haughty disposition, a princess complex, as it were. With the chairs all empty, and the audience underwater, that particular trait's definitely been ruined.
Oh, lol, "raining on one's parade."
chipmunx 1 year ago
@chipmunx well yes you are probably right anyway it was just my opinion and i hope thats not being sarcastic.
TR4Alwayz 1 year ago
My theory about Carmen is that she wanted to become an adult by having sex(or she just wants to do it~), but she didn't really think about protectsion and so she became pregrant(the tree growing from the bed symbolizing the unwanted pregrancy).
Well that's my opinion anyway.
Krissu12 1 year ago 2
What I think happened was Carmen was looking for a little fun, and started fliritng with this woodsman. At first he was hesitant, but after a while of drinking(which happened AFTER it faded to black), they decided they'd take it to the next step. At this point, Carmen was pretty drunk, and willing to do anything. When they actually started though, the woodsman did something that Carmen didn't want to do, and, in a drunken rage, raped her, and killed her.
oOoIceytundraoOo 1 year ago
anyone else think RAPE at the point when she's walking to the house?
BroadwayPirate1106 1 year ago 3
@BroadwayPirate1106 No. Maybe the lumberjack was not very willing in the beginning, but I doubt she chose "persuade by force" option.
KazeKoichi 10 months ago
@KazeKoichi i mean him to her >.> She seduces him but not expecting it to go that far and tries to get out of it when it was too late
BroadwayPirate1106 10 months ago
Hmm, what if the X means something that must be done!? Like a check list of things, I mean the woodsman is chopping down each tree with an x. What if Carmen is "Marked" with an x symbolically and he ends up having sex with her because of it. Likewise each door is marked with an x, which might have something to do with the fact that you must pass them regardless of feelings towards them. In fact, has anyone thought of why this is true, why we must go forward in the grandmother's house?
PezPiece 1 year ago
@PezPiece I mean I'm not particularly sure because I haven't played the game enough but the anonymous girl can take you back to the path right!? You can finish each game without having to meet the wolf but you must press on through the house. Crazy!
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KeLoman0 1 year ago
0:37 Oh shit. how she got alive?! Damn girls.
FuckOff3211 1 year ago
O.o I think she either died or he uh, well...y'know...
KleptoCosplayer 1 year ago
grandma has a umm intersting house heheh ugh so many turns! um whats up with the bull?
kingdomhearts39 1 year ago
grandma has a umm intersting house heheh
kingdomhearts39 1 year ago
Carmen is the girl that wants to have a man. And she'll stop at nothing to get what she wants. The fire in the house and the wooden places show this, and the fact that there is really nothing accomplished from getting everything she asks for. The 'X' on the door has two meanings: 1)that Carmen will go in deeper than she ever wanted to, and 2) That she will be cut down (METAPHORICALLY!) if she does not change. Her walls are bare and wooden, showing the frailty she actually has.
DragonSongOnTheWind 1 year ago 4
I love the Dreamlike aspect of this game
Undeadharpie 1 year ago
someone can explain me this ending ?
Darkoita 1 year ago
My thoery of Carmen....
basement, i have no idea....
tree tunnel, i have no idea either :(
the tree in grandmother's bed i think that tree is grandmother.
her wolf may be the man she wants to be with, she feels lonely, she wants a happy life, but the wood on fire the X on her face and the tree in the basement cut down may mean that the love of her life is killing her, the love of her life, is her wolf.
Carmen's story is about flirting and getting married or something.
sailordarkmoon999 1 year ago
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sailordarkmoon999 1 year ago
this game is so dumb
hannahsucks7 1 year ago
There are there 6 girls.. so beenor representing each one a Capital sin.. there we have the six Deadly Sins..
tranvozcaya 1 year ago
@tranvozcaya omg that is so true! no.. there are 7 deadly sins so... maybe not
littleflamestar 1 year ago
@littleflamestar Yes, I thought about it .. but it's a metaphor .. to know which is the seventh .. if there is, I have not studied yet...
tranvozcaya 1 year ago
@tranvozcaya jeez! JUST THOUGHT! THE GIRL IN THE WHITE DRESS!!! SHE COULD BE THE SEVENTH SIN!!! *REVELATION* now, which could she be... im going to look now :P
littleflamestar 1 year ago
i loved yhose storyes... a very well done
When the girl in white goes away bad things sart hapens to them all..
tranvozcaya 1 year ago
Since this game is about growing up, I believe that after each girl "experienced" something (experience is the best teacher as my mother always told me) they lost what was once deemed "innocent" they are not pure anymore, as they've grown up and learned more about the world around them, here's how I see it:
Robin learns that the world isn't full of sunshine and rainbows.
Rosie learns that curiosity kills
Ginger learns of homosexuality (which is deemed "unclean") and that she'll never be a boy.
Clanitz 1 year ago
@Clanitz
Ruby learns that putting "trust" in anyone can lead to unforseen consquences
Carmen learns that she can never get back what she lost (Her virginity) due to lack of simple reasoning and now she regrets it..
Scarlet learns that trying to obtain a dream is harder than she thought and due to obstacles holding her back, that she may never attain them..
Robin was Naive
Rosie was nosy
Ginger was confused
Ruby showed too much trust
Carmen lacked common sense
and Scarlet had a one track mind.
Clanitz 1 year ago 13
@Clanitz
As for the girl in white, she represents "innocence" and "If I could do this over again and change my fate I would...." meaning she may have been the "What if?" factor or a symbol of "moving forward", or "if they could do it all again and have a better outcome for their future.." (which brought all the girls back in the end)
Clanitz 1 year ago
@Clanitz Tt\hat because they are younger doesn't mean they are less important than the olders. Oh Rose my dear... you always have head in the clouds! You always dream too much! You have to grow up! Abandon those silly dreams and fantasies! One day you can get hurt cause of your recklessness! I love dreaming just like Rose and I'll never abandon my dreams and fantasies!
Kruukk 2 months ago
- the 'X' she puts upon herself is permanent. Once she's gone far enough to make herself a toy in the eyes of the men she desires, there's no going back. She'll always be that next tree to cut down for them, and that is her wolf; no man, so long as she continues desperately seducing them, will every emotionally invest in her.
loudbump 1 year ago 4
The 'X' is the mark put upon any tree for cutting down. It's an objective symbol of consumption; once painted, a tree is mercilessly taken. A conquest, you could say, that transfers to Carmen. Carmen, who so readily vies for the attention of men (possibly due to a lack of a father figure - the parents never are discussed in the game) seeks to seuxally objectify herself in the eyes of males, because it makes her much more easy to approach. However, she doesn't realize that when she does this, -
loudbump 1 year ago 11
Am I the only one that noticed each of the sisters name is a color around red?
Left4YoMomma 1 year ago
Lol the woodcutter became the villain in the story.
MiddleEasternBorder 1 year ago
Sure is deep around here.
jddaman1337 1 year ago
Music from this part is not on the soundtrack from the game; does anyone know, what`s the title of this piece, or where can I find it?
rythmmaniac 1 year ago
There are a lot of theories on what this one means, but the walk through Grandmother's house tells a lot too, if you get the secret rooms. As you're going "upstairs" in the shack-like room, over the sound of a manual saw cutting, you can hear a woman moaning--and not just once, but repeatedly, in unmistakable tones. The X could stand for rejection, but it also stands as a mark of something to be 'axed', so to speak. She probably lost her virginity, and felt guilty after, despite being willing.
TheAcriNom 1 year ago 14
If you pause to look at the picture of Carmen at 7:30 you notice an X on her face. Judging from all of the x's on the doors, and previous theories, I would agree that she was rejected by the lumberjack and saw that relationships are nothing to play with; in turn, Im retty sure she grew from it.
boredtotears12 1 year ago
6:24 Lumberjack sex?
saPpinsentRyS 1 year ago
i wonder how lil red riding hood wouldve come out if the lumberjack actualy raped her in the story and never saved granny......Oh well.....we will never know.....
BanjoKazooieTeam 1 year ago
Maybe its her fear of never falling in love. Or being rejected
Animeluv32 1 year ago
That's obvious, she got raped, because she went too far and got sex instead of flirting. And...don't you think it happened in the shed? I mean, what for it was there? She couldn't even open it, but still it was important for some reason...And in the house, we can see the shed being inside of it, even though we couldn't at the camp site. That's it: after rape the shed is opened...
Redalchemi 1 year ago 3
Pause it at like 7:36 and there is blood coming out of her mouth
PhatTrack 1 year ago 2
While this game isn't as fun as a number of others, it's very clear by the comments to this video (and related ones) as to how much more thought-provoking it is than 99% of other games.
Maddolis 1 year ago
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90sComputerGames 1 year ago
Just finished this part of the "game", for lack of a more seasoned term. Best 5 bucks I ever spent!
My wolf moment was a bit more ambient-- I'd lit the fire, and I had been wandering around the woods for a long long time-- so it was practically pitch black at the campsite.
You bolted through the "sex stairs" , haha. This was the first time I'd gotten "Success" (Yeah, right..) so I was creeping through those moaning sounds inch by inch. Talk about creepy.
90sComputerGames 1 year ago
whether it is consensual sex or not, it didn't ended well for Carmen. there is a picture of her cut in half at 7:29, and several pictures of the guy lifting up his axe in the flash part.
Oodoo974 1 year ago
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Oodoo974 1 year ago
the music alone in this game freaks me the hell out
the1nonlyruru 1 year ago 5
That hectic static kind of music/noise - sort of like it keeps glitching? That terrifies me. Even more so if it keeps going on - like it does here. These designers are genius, and I am completely conflicted over whether I'm glad or not that I don't have the hardware minimum to run this properly.
lostserenity0 2 years ago 2
LSD was better.
cowardlymaya 2 years ago
The ending part of this video scared the shit out of me when I first played it
Segeric 2 years ago
i dont think the characters in this game die they just lose there inocence horhwever you spell it lol
salvi016 2 years ago
and the tree in the middle of the bed represents her loosing her virginity. the part where we see her with the X like someone said before represents her Beying a tsrget for the woodcutter wheter is too kill her or not i dont know but i think is more in the Sexual type.. or it could mean she got rejected.
luisaserranito 2 years ago
what i think hapened is realy simple..this might be the simplest ending here. i dont think she died. She did had sex. (probably consensual since she was the one who flirted) . and we know that because of the moaning, and at the same time we hear woodcutting sounds that probably represents him cutting her inocence (virginity)
luisaserranito 2 years ago 5
great videos, what do you use to record?
mamangakka 2 years ago
Fraps!
Joudas 2 years ago
i think her house is the scariest, all those weird sex grunts you hear when you're going up the stairs *shudder*
mamangakka 2 years ago 27
@mamangakka YEAH I know! I was cringing expecting something to go BLEHHHHHH and scare me.
peoplewhoplaygames 7 months ago
This made me cry so fuckin' hard. The people behind Tale of Tales are too awesome.
JohnBaxterly 2 years ago 6
so like, is there a point to the game? or is it just to see like, a clever allusions to the faults of the human heart or some thing deep like that. haha
brandonagogo 2 years ago 5
Well I assume she had sex. If you pause the pictures she's bent over in most of them.
In one picture, it looks like she's cut in half, her bottom half is bent downwards, while her upper half is bent facing upwards. It looks in half because of the black of her clothing 'splits' it. But that's very weird.
HolyHeeroYui 2 years ago
I think "The Wolf" that is a sexual cripple. Therefore, she had an affair and he had a lot of wood carved in the "X" I think it was the meaning of infertility. I got obsessed with the relationship, but Carmen will die eventually. In this local place, at the end of the story is having a baby died, but my personal opinion I think will fail.
lovemstn 2 years ago
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lovemstn 2 years ago
i've never played this game and it seems like a really good game although it seems confusing. so i was wonder why is her head hanging to the side when she on the bridge. and about how some of you suggested the lumberjack raped her or maybe they had sex and now she regrets there seems to be some sort of evidence because if you didn't notice, every time the person stops moving her, she puts her head in her hands like she is upset.
heartsgoddess 2 years ago
who was the lady in the tent?
stephgocrazyy 2 years ago
@stephgocrazyy the girl? she brings you back to the path if you get lost
MoonlightWolf87 1 year ago
Just something I found interesting. Seems most people say that sound when she's going up the spiral is a wolf panting with the woman moaning... But in addition to that, with the woodsman theme, it sounds a 'lot' like them cutting down a tree with a saw. :)
LilDruid 2 years ago 2
the lumberjack's eyes got really creepy. am i the only one who thought they were like...pulsating holes? =___=
f4tbird 2 years ago 3
@f4tbird You're right, I saw it too ~
YattaKarasu 1 year ago
The red cross and red setting signifies forbidden romance and love ?
arsenewenger 2 years ago
@arsenewenger Yes, red often signifies passion and romance, yet it can also signify danger and blood. In a way, you can say that the foreboding future of each girl is already predetermined in the game because they're splashed in red clothing.
leekymkween 2 years ago
Red also signifies trauma and intensity, which I think really symbolizes each of these girls' situation. But yes, I do think in Carmen's case, the red signifies romance, even sex, but also intensity and trauma from her little adventure's end result.
TheCandie87 2 years ago
not saying anything is right or wrong, but as carmen is spiralling up the stairs/hallways, you can hear a woman moaning (sexually?) and chopping wood so maybe she got drunk, had sex with the woodman, regretted it and collapsed in front of the house
bumblebash 2 years ago
Grandma really needs to re-decorate. I mean floral patterns? So passe
Hawkza123 2 years ago 9
so she was raped by the lumberjack and he then killed her afterwards? why are all the "success" endings end up the girls dieing shouldnt that happend if you fail?
VampDDR 2 years ago
@VampDDR When you read the game's story line you'll probably get the jist that it is insinuating that a girls' curious and disobedient nature (could be biblically referring to Eve eating the apple) eventually leads them to their own demise.
The whole Little Red Riding Hood story can be interpreted to be a girl's curious nature and that the wolf is their sins/temptations. Ultimately, they successfully find their wolf but die from the consequences of getting off the path. I hope i made sense lol.
leekymkween 2 years ago 7
sensible, but of all the posssible formats, why a video game?
BarelyPerfect 2 years ago
Are you suggesting it would make a better board game?
afubaju 2 years ago 27
@afubaju they should make it one!
DragonSongOnTheWind 1 year ago
@VampDDR Sorry to reply a little late xD But controvertially, The Path's theme seems to be trying to teach its players that following a direct path in life will only bring you directly to death, and you wouldn't have really 'lived', which can be seen as failure.. If you deviate from this structure, you have tried to live your life. All in all, it goes to show that life is what you make of it, and in order to have a fulfilling life, you should learn to live alittle.
boredtotears12 1 year ago
creepy
Finy95 2 years ago
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wow, u all so dumb...
utaizaba 2 years ago
rofl. "no more nights... of blood & fire!"
Mechanis 2 years ago
To me, this seems like the story of a girl that flirsted to get a man (who was originally not at all interested) to pay atttention to her, irresponsibly downs a beer, and, drunk, ends up getting him to do something. And when she walks to the house, she doesnt really look hurt, just hungover.
PhreakOutBigTime 2 years ago 2
i more interested in they lady in the tent (who runs a way as soon as the lumberjack sits down next to carmen)
ayame400 2 years ago 2
@ayame400 she is a girl that gides you back to the path and gives you hints to be safe, she wants you to go in the tent to be safe, but you cant
MoonlightWolf87 1 year ago
Okay, so Carmen starts openly flirting with a woodsman who shows absolutely no interest in her, and who, in spite of having an axe, does not appear threatening at all. She mopes about and helps herself to some of his beer, downing it like a marathon runner glugging gatorade. The woodsman takes one sip. One. And then we fade to black and the woodsman spontaneously turns into a crazed mad-axe murderer? I heard a more plausible theory. The 'X' stands for rejection. The woodsman said no.
LetsPlayMaldeus 2 years ago 51
Or maybe he gave her want she wanted. ....And she regretted it when she sobered up.
Titan360 2 years ago 10
@LetsPlayMaldeus Lumberjacks put "X's" on the trees they cut.
MsMoonwolf93 1 year ago
@LetsPlayMaldeus That woodsman is her wolf, so he like planned for it to happen, it's like Carmen is hypnotized by her wolf.
And that X does not mean rejection, when a woodsman puts an X on a tree it means he's going to cut it down, so he put an X on Carmen, showing he is going to kill her.
sailordarkmoon999 1 year ago
It seems to me that Carmen was seeking to be flirtatious and basically got more than she bargained for. The lumberjack was her very manly love but he defiled her (as he does the trees with the X's, as she gets one). The tree at the end is both a phallic symbol for his violation of her and continues the motif of the woods and the lumberjack having severed her innocence (and most likely killing her). I personally don't see the whole childbirth thing, but there;s no right or wrong answers.
MrBlackers 2 years ago 8
I think it is weird that they made the lumberjack the bad guy in this one. Wasn't he the one that killed the wolf before?
KingPiccolOwned 2 years ago 2
So it's not really scary in a horrormovie way but it's scary in a visual way oh and the "Wolves" must be the obsticals in which they face
Tristen778 2 years ago
I think Carmen was flirting with a older lumberjack man and ment for it to be nothing more then a little flirting and a beer. The Lumberjack then raped her and killed her with an axe... I think...
DarkRebecca 2 years ago
How come you couldnt open the shed?
When i was playing ginger she opened it nothing inside though
And I think the game is weird cause I collect more stuff than it says at the end! But im happy playing it
XEvanescence4EvaX 2 years ago
I think that they put the 0/3 items thing in purposely. I'm pretty sure that the ratings screen is ironic and means for you to feel crappy so you will never get an "A" because that's not what the game is about and if you are looking for that they want you to be unsatisfied. When I was playing the game reported multiple times a different items collected and rooms opened score than what I had actually done.
katiemcvay 2 years ago 2
I saw that guy too! But I couldn't interact with him. Next time I should just sit and wait.
ficsci 2 years ago
Woah, uploaded on my birthday ^^
We can't really say for certain what exactly happens in this game. It's supposed to be a different representation to all of us.
lozzalovesyou 2 years ago
I would say she was raped, but the moans in the hallway suggest she was willing at first. Maybe he had sex with her and killed her afterwards.
I think in this game the beds are supposed to represent their final "resting" place. She was, perhaps, buried under a tree after it was all said and done.
TheInfamousBertman 2 years ago
i think she was raped, u think ruby was raped to, but that carmen was raped im almost sure, that nasty sounds say everything....
LadyIceCr3am 2 years ago
Here's my general theory. For all the characters, this is just an emotional trip. The wolf represents something they want at first, but regret later.
cheetoman23 2 years ago 2
you married a lumberjack...
CONGRATS YOU FAIL AT LIFE, NOW DIE
Woo, sure glad that I interpreted this ending correctly
sp4cehouse 2 years ago 5
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don´t understand shit... WTF! tried the demo... no way...
robin2thek 2 years ago
what don't you understand ? I could explain you...
AnCheLLaxLoL 2 years ago
Can you explain like, the most part of it?
I mean, what everythign represents, i know it represents something.. could you explain?
HcOtaku1337 2 years ago
Not every single detail need represent or symbolize something (I've heard some pretty far-fetched stuff where this game is concerned), but Carmen here, whose character description on the website confirms has developed an interest in men and sex (at this point in her life and maturity), seems to have met with "the wrong sort" of man, who hurt her. Not necessarily physically (as in rape, etc), but emotionally. Hence Carmen's "death," death rarely being literal in this game.
Kitsune44X 2 years ago 2
woah! this makes no sense. wasnt she auppoaed to find her grandma. what the hell happened to that?
rubberduckey111 2 years ago
I think it's metaphorical. If you go down the "Path" of life, you end up at grandma's house all happy and sound!
Stray from the path and grandma is dead. Also, you get raped.
Mordain607 2 years ago
Certainly 4chan worthy humor. While I agree with your point I think it is a bit, uhh, extreme I suppose. I think that Carmen actually has a lot in common with Misato from NGE actually, when you read the websites description of her.
KingPiccolOwned 2 years ago
The Misato connection is an interesting one, I hadn't thought of it like that. Thanks!
KaliFortuna 2 years ago
6:25 obviously Carmen and the Lumber jack having sex .
Trees represent new life she died in childbirth .
ThatAlastairGuy 2 years ago 3
Kind of a Nabokovian interpretation...
koshkat 2 years ago
Sex plays a strong role in this particular character's part in the game, but there's little sign that she (A) had a child by the man or (B) *actually* died at all in the game itself. "Death," in this game, is largely figurative.
Kitsune44X 2 years ago 5
to grab his attention.
The tree symbolizes Carmen's innocence, so naturally the guy chopping the tree suggests the end of innocence.
He walks over, and oddly the fire has gone out - Carmen realises she isn't ready.
In the house, we see big X's - the signs the woodcutter used, but they also mean a big NO.
On a door? No entry! (If you catch my meaning)
We see a tree-stump in a pool of water - the stump being a loss of innocence, the water might represent tears and sorrow -> *cont*
Frankenchokie 2 years ago 11
We hear cutting sounds all through the house too, reminding us of the woodcutter.
When she reaches the bed, we see a full tree in it, still alive & growing - which maybe suggests that Carmen's tree hasn't been felled quite yet *wink wink*. The tree also suggests emotional growth - she found out that her ideas of romance before were a little immature, and she has to grow as a person before she's ready for an adult relationship.
Just my thoughts, of course!
No right or wrong answers in THE PATH!
Frankenchokie 2 years ago 16
I can completely agree with this theory, especially given the odd moaning sounds as Carmen climbs up through (?) the tree.
Kerisa 2 years ago
I'm really happy (and surprised) that someone agrees with my theory!
Ah yes, the moaning seemed to me not the 'being killed' kind too XD
Frankenchokie 2 years ago
see i would have disagreed, id have said the tree at the end was a phallic symbol and that it was forced, implying rape.
joewhittles 2 years ago
I thought the axe, in this case, was more of a phallic symbol and the tree in the bed represented growth - but I can see where you're coming from! There are no definitive answers in The Path, so what do I know?
My theory is just what I got from the game, the imagery is purposely left open to interpretation, and coming up with new theories is half the fun!
Frankenchokie 2 years ago
Thank god that there is at least one other person who doesn't watch this and immediately think 'oh noes he raepd her and tehn kiilod with axe'. The woodcutter, in fact, barely seems interested in her. She's the one doing all the flirting.
StrictlyNeutral 2 years ago 5
I agree up until the point of the X representation. If you look closely at the end, the stills flashing show Carmen with a giant red X on her face. She's a target, a goal, like the other trees he tore down.
JackiJinx 2 years ago
Yeah. And if you pause at 7:32, you can see the image of the man holding his ax as if he's about to swing it. The view is of someone looking up. That combined with the image of Carmen on her knees and then with the x on her face makes me think that her ending was even more terrible than rape alone.
kalliopekrash 2 years ago 2
I'm not convinced that any of the girls died, with the possible exception of Rose.
I think the imagery of the man with the axe (phallic symbol!) is more a metaphor of how violated she felt after he took advantage of her.
On the game's official page, it says that Carmen is a flirt, but strongly indicates she's never gone any farther.
To me the Xs and the axe represent the way this man "marked" her as a sexual conquest, raped her, and left her broken (dead if you like) on the inside.
Cestlavenus 2 years ago
So the tree on the bed is THE TREE OF PENETRATION? And the tree in that courtyard represents her virginity?
tehgamer1 2 years ago
Hey, another alternative to what it could mean (although I think BurningSunBloodyMoon's idea works really well too)
All through the game, Carmen seems to want romance and men.
When she reaches the campsite, the lumberjack represents this
The fire represents her passion (she talks about the fire when she lights it)
The little girl going in and out of the tent may be a cheeky metaphor for sex (especially since the tent is red)
Carmen is convinced she's ready, and steals the woodsman's hat ->*cont*
Frankenchokie 2 years ago 6
I think she was killed by the lumberjack, cause at 7:35 the lumberjack looks like he's about to swing his axe at you.
Swiftstar1414 2 years ago
i think so too... he's on of the "wolves"... ins't he?
there was nothing BAD happening at all but its very disturbing ...
yomi922 2 years ago
i dont get it, what happened to her? i cant seem to decode what the metaphor of the lumberjack is
iden132 2 years ago
My opinion is that Carmen wanted a strong man (e.g. a lumberjack, which is a typical "manly" job) to marry and support her. However her husband wanted