Wow, ok, so according to this, this would explain why all girls "Think" They are in LOVE with that abusive guy even though he treats her like crap?? So then..now what!? If I treat a girl right = No Dissonance = No feeling that I am worth something. If I treat a girl like crap = Dissonance = she will feel like I am worth something!? Fuck this life sucks ass!! :/
I don't think the girl would truthfully end up saying the experiment was fun, regardless of her $1 reward. I just feel like yeah, is I was given insufficient funds for lying I would definitely have cognitive dissonance but that wouldn't cause me to start believing in a false truth
Ever considered the world would be a better place without money? You wouldn't have to be a slave to your boss if it didn't exist. We’re conditioned to believe that everything would come to a halt if we got rid of it. But it wouldn’t, we evolved without it, we couldn’t have survived if money was essential. We evolved in communities and we are a societal being. Research and free yourself. Google; Zeitgeist Moving Forward 2011 and The Venus Project. Time to wake up.
@king420420420420 I don't know what world you're living in, but trading goods is an awful idea. I go to the store to buy food, clothes, etc. But in order to get what I want, I have to give up my own belongings? What if the owner doesn't want anything I have? Am I simply out of luck? Or willl I have to do some specific service for the store?
Ugh. No thanks, I'd rather just give them some paper and be on my way. Money is way more convenient! That's why it was created!
@Xeonaa Whatever, believe what you want. I'm awake enough to know we are trapped in a system that is raping our planet of its resources, starving children to death, allowing madmen to have their fingers poised over nuclear weapons. I bet you never even watched the film. Ever heard the phrase ' None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free' ?
@nansir Right, that's ALL because of money. Corruption and suffering has existed long before money was created. I honestly don't know how you can convince yourself that bartering for goods or doing things solely for the "advancement of humanity" would work. Humans are, by nature, driven to seek power and control. People aren't gonna do dirty work when there's nothing in it for them. Without money, a social heirachy would still exist that would have some "above" others. Your utopia can't exist.
@nansir That website promotes "a system in which all goods and services are available without the use of money, credits, barter, or any other form of debt or servitude."
Just FYI, communism, by definition, is "a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, revolutionary and stateless socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production."
Don't they sound similar? Spoiler alert: historically, communism has never worked.
@nansir No, you need to wake up. Watch the show "Dirty Jobs" and see the kind of labor that goes on behind your back. Keeping the world working & free from trash and muck is disgusting but necessary. No one's gonna do it voluntarily though... Without money, blue collar workers would NOT continue picking up our garbage from the side of the road every week! Getting rid of money is a terrible idea, sorry. We are not hunters and gatherers living in isolated communities anymore, it wouldn't work.
It's like natinalism in various countries (any political system) the authorities do some costly or bad things and nationalists will support no matter what
@JasonBentleyJones I hear what u r saying, that cognitive dissonance occurs in daily life. Even in deciding what to eat for breakfast, I find waiting 3 hours sometime not eating at all because of the millions of reasons from dishes to what to eat. weird.
@JasonBentleyJones A good example is when a company tries to get you buy their product. They tell you things to make you want their product... Another display of cognitive dissonance is when a new religion is trying to form. The new religion takes words or phrases from the bible and replaces or rephrases them with their own beliefs. This way people will think that this new religion is the true religion, when they took ideas that were already in place.
classic example of people that say "i love my job" when actually the root foundation of work goes against basic instincts like feedom. And that most people wouldn't do there job if it weren't for the money!
i don't see why there'd have dissonance at all given the knowledge that the lie is not harmful. presumably, you'd just think the lie was necessary for the experiment and obviously wasn't going to cause any harm, so you'd have no sense that you ought not to lie. maybe i'm missing something...
Alright, instead of just being a dick, you could address the problem. It seems strange to me to assume that the people would think it wrong to lie in this instance, given their awareness of the scientific reason for it, and given that it will cause no harm. For this reason, I fail to see the conflict between what they feel they ought to do, and what they actually do, irrespective of the reward. It's not like they're aware they're doing something wrong and trying to rationalise it.
Sorry to not include an explanation, but I thought the mechanism was apparent in the video. Subjects in condition A and B were all put through the monotonous tasks and told to lie about how enjoyable/stimulating the task was; however, subjects A and B were either given 1 dollar or 20 dollars as a reward for lying. So for subjects A (1 dollar liars), they experienced more dissonance between saying the task was fun and knowing it was boring because they had to internalize the....
discrepancy whereas the other group was able to reduce dissonance through the larger reward. It isn't about feeling what they ought to do. Cognitive dissonance looks at the discrepancy between holding two conflicting views and the discomfort it causes; for instance, someone who smokes and tells others how unhealthy smoking is will feel discomfort until they rationalize or take action to reduce the dissonance - perhaps through consonance.
i don't see why there are conflicting views here though. They don't need to suppress the view that the game's fun because they don't actually hold it, they're just pretending to do so. Why is the view that the game is boring challenged at all? The analogy doesn't fit - the smoker tells others that smoking is unhealthy because they think it's true, not in order to aid in an experiment, hence why there is dissonance. Unless pretending to think the game is fun creates dissonance.
You're missing the point, and I really think reading the actual study by Festinger would help. Both groups experienced dissonance, but group A experienced more: because there was less external motivation for lying, a statement dissonant from their experience, group A worked harder in justifying their beliefs. Festinger asked the participants post lie about their experience with the task and saw a significance between the groups and I think in earlier statements.
We are God Damn Cattle on the farm.. we are mutha fucking test Subjects for these Global Elite bankers... They treat us like Fucking RATS in a gage.. if they did this shit on tv back then... What do they do to us these days... We know they dont talk about it... everything is a big fucking secret
Where did they find these fabulous actors??? If only the producers of "Mad Men" could get a hold of these talented youngsters, the show would be improved dramatically!
This is Phillip Zimbardo. Phillip Zimbardo as in "the Stanford Prison Experiments" Phillip Zimbardo. So even if this video was boring or annoying (which it isn't), I'm pretty sure those Experiments give Zimbardo a complete pass in the worlds of morality and psychology. He's a hero.
A good example of cognitive dissonance is when I stop watching this video in less the first 30 seconds I will feel good about not listening to his annoying voice anymore, but i will feel regret for having stopped listening to something that could potentially help me.
@stoddcrew it's not that hard to understand. it's basically when someone tries to convince you that what they think is right. it's pretty much advertisement.
Interesting! I used this video in my blog to explain more about CD
pshegubj 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
BAMFERANG 2 weeks ago
The comments in reference to this video helped me on my theory paper (about cognitive dissonance) than the video itself did. Thanks y'all!
Naissa24 1 month ago
It is a lesson about how hypocrits behave.
And how they actually end up convincing themselves and others.
JANUARY17FOREVER 1 month ago
Wow, ok, so according to this, this would explain why all girls "Think" They are in LOVE with that abusive guy even though he treats her like crap?? So then..now what!? If I treat a girl right = No Dissonance = No feeling that I am worth something. If I treat a girl like crap = Dissonance = she will feel like I am worth something!? Fuck this life sucks ass!! :/
MrJoeDaddyMac 1 month ago
Does this mean that poor people should be happier or that rich people are happier because they know it's okay to complain?
kryptonbornson 2 months ago
I don't think the girl would truthfully end up saying the experiment was fun, regardless of her $1 reward. I just feel like yeah, is I was given insufficient funds for lying I would definitely have cognitive dissonance but that wouldn't cause me to start believing in a false truth
kcee54 2 months ago
Resolution of cognitive dissonance is the difference between Charlie Caplin vs Edgar Hoover... healthquiz (dot) wordpress (slash) com
Suzanna
healthquiz.info
BodyFitLife 2 months ago
for a dollar? stupid bitch LOL
21boxhead 2 months ago
@21boxhead back then a $ was worth alot more than it is now
TheBigBoss851 3 weeks ago
@TheBigBoss851 True
21boxhead 3 weeks ago
The boy that was paid 20 bucks sounds like christopher walken
artem6000 2 months ago
@SixFootTallMidget it's good to enjoy yourself in whatever you do. that is true success. and show others how to live that way.
king420420420420 5 months ago
So what exactly is an "insufficient reward"?
insidetrip101 5 months ago
=D I can use this to my advantage. mwhahahahhahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha?
SackFulloApplez1993 5 months ago
Ever considered the world would be a better place without money? You wouldn't have to be a slave to your boss if it didn't exist. We’re conditioned to believe that everything would come to a halt if we got rid of it. But it wouldn’t, we evolved without it, we couldn’t have survived if money was essential. We evolved in communities and we are a societal being. Research and free yourself. Google; Zeitgeist Moving Forward 2011 and The Venus Project. Time to wake up.
nansir 5 months ago 3
@nansir i think we should trade instead of using money. it would be better for people to trade goods.
king420420420420 5 months ago
@king420420420420 I don't know what world you're living in, but trading goods is an awful idea. I go to the store to buy food, clothes, etc. But in order to get what I want, I have to give up my own belongings? What if the owner doesn't want anything I have? Am I simply out of luck? Or willl I have to do some specific service for the store?
Ugh. No thanks, I'd rather just give them some paper and be on my way. Money is way more convenient! That's why it was created!
Xeonaa 3 months ago
@Xeonaa Whatever, believe what you want. I'm awake enough to know we are trapped in a system that is raping our planet of its resources, starving children to death, allowing madmen to have their fingers poised over nuclear weapons. I bet you never even watched the film. Ever heard the phrase ' None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free' ?
nansir 3 months ago
@nansir Right, that's ALL because of money. Corruption and suffering has existed long before money was created. I honestly don't know how you can convince yourself that bartering for goods or doing things solely for the "advancement of humanity" would work. Humans are, by nature, driven to seek power and control. People aren't gonna do dirty work when there's nothing in it for them. Without money, a social heirachy would still exist that would have some "above" others. Your utopia can't exist.
Xeonaa 3 months ago
@Xeonaa You clearly haven't researched this. Watch the movie and visit the Venus Project website.
nansir 3 months ago
@nansir That website promotes "a system in which all goods and services are available without the use of money, credits, barter, or any other form of debt or servitude."
Just FYI, communism, by definition, is "a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, revolutionary and stateless socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production."
Don't they sound similar? Spoiler alert: historically, communism has never worked.
Xeonaa 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Xeonaa there has never been any communist society, only communist dictator. You can't say that it didn't worked.
kilagotleb 3 months ago
@nansir No, you need to wake up. Watch the show "Dirty Jobs" and see the kind of labor that goes on behind your back. Keeping the world working & free from trash and muck is disgusting but necessary. No one's gonna do it voluntarily though... Without money, blue collar workers would NOT continue picking up our garbage from the side of the road every week! Getting rid of money is a terrible idea, sorry. We are not hunters and gatherers living in isolated communities anymore, it wouldn't work.
Xeonaa 3 months ago
Very helpful! Thanks :)
eoinm323 6 months ago
It's like natinalism in various countries (any political system) the authorities do some costly or bad things and nationalists will support no matter what
StopFear 8 months ago
Philip Zimbardo is such a badass...
LIGHTRONIX 8 months ago
I moonlight as Hooker on the weekends so I can pay my Mortgage, I understand Cognitive Dissonance perfectly.
jendeh1000 8 months ago
@netiaz You must be a very lonely person. Goodbye.
JasonBentleyJones 9 months ago
This is a hard concept for most people to wrap their heads around. You really need to work for the state department to fully get this.
landbridge 10 months ago 2
@landbridge I wouldn't say that. Every day examples are Children. Between diapers, money drain, time, cooking, cleaning, washing, nurturing, etc.
Also, most people stay in tough relationships BECAUSE they have been through so much, already, that they hate to "throw it all away".
JasonBentleyJones 10 months ago 8
@JasonBentleyJones I hear what u r saying, that cognitive dissonance occurs in daily life. Even in deciding what to eat for breakfast, I find waiting 3 hours sometime not eating at all because of the millions of reasons from dishes to what to eat. weird.
landbridge 10 months ago
@JasonBentleyJones A good example is when a company tries to get you buy their product. They tell you things to make you want their product... Another display of cognitive dissonance is when a new religion is trying to form. The new religion takes words or phrases from the bible and replaces or rephrases them with their own beliefs. This way people will think that this new religion is the true religion, when they took ideas that were already in place.
king420420420420 5 months ago
what crap. they lied. that doesnt mean they believed their own lie.
verysoliy 6 months ago
classic example of people that say "i love my job" when actually the root foundation of work goes against basic instincts like feedom. And that most people wouldn't do there job if it weren't for the money!
galaxything 10 months ago
You must be so used to people lieing to you (or lieing to others) that you've simply grown insensitive and just accept it.
What you're missing is respect for truth, principals.
JasonBentleyJones 10 months ago
i don't see why there'd have dissonance at all given the knowledge that the lie is not harmful. presumably, you'd just think the lie was necessary for the experiment and obviously wasn't going to cause any harm, so you'd have no sense that you ought not to lie. maybe i'm missing something...
towneslives 10 months ago
@towneslives
You are.
PTurchan1 10 months ago
@PTurchan1
Alright, instead of just being a dick, you could address the problem. It seems strange to me to assume that the people would think it wrong to lie in this instance, given their awareness of the scientific reason for it, and given that it will cause no harm. For this reason, I fail to see the conflict between what they feel they ought to do, and what they actually do, irrespective of the reward. It's not like they're aware they're doing something wrong and trying to rationalise it.
towneslives 10 months ago
@towneslives
Sorry to not include an explanation, but I thought the mechanism was apparent in the video. Subjects in condition A and B were all put through the monotonous tasks and told to lie about how enjoyable/stimulating the task was; however, subjects A and B were either given 1 dollar or 20 dollars as a reward for lying. So for subjects A (1 dollar liars), they experienced more dissonance between saying the task was fun and knowing it was boring because they had to internalize the....
PTurchan1 10 months ago
@towneslives
discrepancy whereas the other group was able to reduce dissonance through the larger reward. It isn't about feeling what they ought to do. Cognitive dissonance looks at the discrepancy between holding two conflicting views and the discomfort it causes; for instance, someone who smokes and tells others how unhealthy smoking is will feel discomfort until they rationalize or take action to reduce the dissonance - perhaps through consonance.
PTurchan1 10 months ago
@PTurchan1
i don't see why there are conflicting views here though. They don't need to suppress the view that the game's fun because they don't actually hold it, they're just pretending to do so. Why is the view that the game is boring challenged at all? The analogy doesn't fit - the smoker tells others that smoking is unhealthy because they think it's true, not in order to aid in an experiment, hence why there is dissonance. Unless pretending to think the game is fun creates dissonance.
towneslives 10 months ago
@towneslives
You're missing the point, and I really think reading the actual study by Festinger would help. Both groups experienced dissonance, but group A experienced more: because there was less external motivation for lying, a statement dissonant from their experience, group A worked harder in justifying their beliefs. Festinger asked the participants post lie about their experience with the task and saw a significance between the groups and I think in earlier statements.
PTurchan1 10 months ago
@PTurchan1
OK. I think I get it.
towneslives 10 months ago
lol he keeps calling the girl a him and a man
piggemz 11 months ago
We are God Damn Cattle on the farm.. we are mutha fucking test Subjects for these Global Elite bankers... They treat us like Fucking RATS in a gage.. if they did this shit on tv back then... What do they do to us these days... We know they dont talk about it... everything is a big fucking secret
adam3176 11 months ago
Man: "people come to believe in and love the things they have to suffer for"...
I would prefer " people come to believe in and love the things they suffer for without justification"
ringrake 11 months ago
fascinating shit man. My girlfriend loves chicken nuggets. I bet she's got some nasty cognitive dissonance.
HigherPlanes 11 months ago
Where did they find these fabulous actors??? If only the producers of "Mad Men" could get a hold of these talented youngsters, the show would be improved dramatically!
feedtherich 11 months ago
At time 4:26 we begin to understand republicans.
ssamd263 1 year ago 4
@stoddcrew and @MsXXX360:
This is Phillip Zimbardo. Phillip Zimbardo as in "the Stanford Prison Experiments" Phillip Zimbardo. So even if this video was boring or annoying (which it isn't), I'm pretty sure those Experiments give Zimbardo a complete pass in the worlds of morality and psychology. He's a hero.
FallenSparrow 1 year ago
@ stoddcrew....thats hilarious....had to watch for a class
blu5678 1 year ago
A good example of cognitive dissonance is when I stop watching this video in less the first 30 seconds I will feel good about not listening to his annoying voice anymore, but i will feel regret for having stopped listening to something that could potentially help me.
stoddcrew 1 year ago 14
@stoddcrew it's not that hard to understand. it's basically when someone tries to convince you that what they think is right. it's pretty much advertisement.
king420420420420 5 months ago
Brilliant stuff. Thanks for posting it.
bjjolley 1 year ago