@bakagundum12 you probably picked it up in the west. a lot of the way it is done in shotokan has spread into the other ryu in the west. but in asia there is no jump. i am a shitoryu practitioner.
@theaateam1994 Gichen Funakoshi put in the jump to give it his own distinct signature, when he moved to Japan from Okinawa. As he also switched the order of Shodan and Nidan as Nidan was somewhat easier to learn / teach to to those coming off of Fyukyu katas. The deep left lunge punch-elbow smash-two handed grab leads into what is known now as "hani goshi" which is a hip throw with a leg assist - bunkai. Pretty hard to jump when you are throwing someone... You must have studied Shoto-kan.
@shureikanshihan I'm really curious to see that hani goshi in action. I study ju jutsu and if I'm honest I'm pretty hard pressed to see anything resembling a hani goshi in there. There's no familiar leg bar for the spring hip and nothing that helps me imagine a hip throw kuzushi! I studied wado ryu too and know how hidden throws can often seem without the bunkai, but I really can't see this one!
@Epochofeno yes you are right when seeing more modern "Karate" post 1800's. I study old Okinawa-te and you can see the technique. We do more of a lapel grab (samurai armor) a fitting in motion (tai subaki) and a distinctive leg assist with the hip throw(we raise the right leg in the kata) where the jump is in Shoto-Kan, is a short series of stances; the bunkai is stepping over the thrown uke to put him between you and the next attacker.
Hmm, interesting. From what I've seen of these videos it seems that everyone has learned a distinctly different way of doing these. Godan is a bit different toward the end for me. Usually goes into a sharp thrusting poke, then the rise to a standing position. Repeat for the other side, then end. (Also, Pinan Shodan and Nidan are switched around for me.)
Yes the original Pinan katas were developed from Chinese kata learned by Anko Itosu. Pinan is the original Chinese name. When Funikoshi introduced them to japan he called them Heian, a japanese word.
@kyoku1982 Actually the name PInan was also Itosu Sensei's doing. He developed the Pinan series from sections of Kusanku and another kata called Chan-an (or a similar spelling) which is no longer widely practiced. But other than that, you are correct, because the form Kusanku was learned from a Chinese master bearing that name.
tio n o e como no teneis berguenza de poner un cata con un estilo decarate si es de otro diferente la jente entra a ber los videos para saber hacer los catas conke no me digais que ese cata es dfe shitoriu cundo es de sotocan conque aber si dejamos de engañar a la jente de una puta bez
@disabled90 Eh... Perdona, pero esta kata la practicamos también en shito-ryu. Si te fijas bien quizás aprecies alguna pequeña diferencia con la de tu estilo.
Y por favor, antes de hablar informate. Ah, y aprende algo de ortografía porque duele a los ojos leer un texto donde practicamente la mitad de las palabras están con faltas...
omg karate is so hypocritical. I train since 7 year old and can do better kata and kumite than any of you guys. But all this time I have been hating it, because you fuckin hypocrites claim to be WARRIORS and discipline and all that shit, but the reality is that you are bunch of weak pussies
I pitty you. I've started training karate this year. I'm just a yellow belt, and I'm sure you are much better than me at katas and kumite. But you don't seem to be a karateka. Respecting others is one of the keys of karate, you know? If I were you I'd feel shameful. Not only you lack respect, but you insult karate also. You don't deserve to be called karateka.
and also you probably have a little life experience to know that for me a respect has to be earned and as you can see I have none whatsoever to suckers like yourself MR KARATEKA )
@JohnAntonyFortune - You are not a true Karate student. It was a mistake for your sensei to even allow you to train for the amount of time you did. You are not worth their time.
Remember, only the truly strong have humility. The "pussies" are the ones who have to walk around puffing their chest out so nobody picks on them and exposes how weak they really are. Think about that next time you choose to disrespect people for really no reason at all.
If I end up like my master's black belt students I'm sure that won't happen. I'll keep on training hard everyday to accomplish that. Moreover, the best way to win a fight is to prevent it from starting. (Done so quite a few times). Noy only that, karate is not just a way to fight, but also a way to self-growth. I don't understand why you said what you said before. Why do you care about other people's strenght that much?
@JohnAntonyFortune karate is not abaout fighting its sad that karate has become a sport in the us karate is abaout to have harmony with your body and mind and after that learn to fight
@carsan96 no disrespect, but I'm not sure I agree with you there. If my history is correct, then in Okinowa, I believe Karate was formed as self defense, primarily civilians defending themselves against military.
@jtwidmer That was the orignal cause, But during the first inports to the Japanese Culture they changed a number of the kata's so that it would be both an offensive and diffence moves as well
@jtwidmer Non taken.But I think of it like this, the human body is a weapon and karate teaches you how to use that weapon, but in order to use that weapon you and your mind must understand your body. Just a simpler explanation of what i meant.
How are we not a Karateka. You just said we were'nt a Karateka without ANY reasons why. Also, I have been doing Shito-Ryu for 5 years and it's obviously a Karateka. Their are World Tournaments every 2 years and it's one of the most favored Karateka's in Japan. This kata has also changed over the years. Please dont make a stupid comment if you have no idea what you are talking about
@RamOfBod "omg karate is so hypocritical. I train since 7 year old and can do better kata and kumite than any of you guys. But all this time I have been hating it, because you fuckin hypocrites claim to be WARRIORS and discipline and all that shit, but the reality is that you are bunch of weak pussies"
That's what he said. I just answered that someone who says that kind of things can't be called a karateka. I said nothing about you. That answer of his lacks respect.
@RamOfBod As I said in the last answer I was just refering to "JohnAntonyFortune" because of his comment. Please, read again my answer. I may not know a lot about karate yet, but at least I know that respect is important. You know, calling other people "a bunch of weak pussies" even if you are stronger than them...
@JohnAntonyFortune Dude, if you think Karate is for Pussies just take a look to Lyoto Machida /watch?v=o2m0VrfVzhQ
Im sure you cant beat him, he is a Karateka since he was 8 years old, the problem is not that karate is bad, the problem is that you are a bad pupil. If someone kicked your ass is because you are a bad student.
In my organisation (shukokai style) we do nidan, then sandan, yondan, this, then shodan. And we do the jump, even though though our focus is on fighting, not showing.
whoa really? I learned shodan first. i dont think sandan (theblackwolf128) or nidan are easier than shodan. i learned shodan, sandan, nidan, yondan, godan.
in the organisation i study shitoryu wiv the jump has been taken out of the kata, and the starting angles are different (as are all the pinans at the start, and pinan shodan an nidan are now the other way around)
this is totally different from what i have learnt. there is not much speed and no jumping movement. but i guess this could also be one of the ways of doing it.
this is my favorite Pinan kata! I've practiced many martial arts since beginning with Tani-ha kofu kan shito ryu back in the 1980 but never found anything to match the balance of power and grace shito ryu provides!
entrenala por partes,dividela en grupos y aprendetelos bien,segun bayas dominando esos bloques te metes en otro y asi hasta que termines el kata,pero si se te hace complicado sigue entrenando los mas bajos,shodan,nidan e,c,t,es mejor dominar bien un solo kata que hacer mal los cinco.suerte.oosss
dale locoooo!!!es el más vistoso de los cinco,si lo haces bien en algún torneo ganas seguro,el trbajo de cintura es primordial para un buen kimé y destaca la potencia,saludos.
i don't know how u can do those kata's .. but mabey it's easier if u learn them 2 bloke infront of the cross.. it's a lil painfull when they got his in the balls..
thanx a lot this really helped me. i am going for my brown belt test on sunday and I needed a liittle more work on this Kata so thanks for all of the help!
This is SO weird, man. I mean, it's the first time i've ever heard about Shito Ryu, and I need a moment... This is odd. I mean, I'm just not used to it, that's all. (Pinan? HEIAN!)
They used to be called Pinan, now they've changed it to Heian, but even shotokan calls them Pinan, I used to practise shotokan before, and called them Pinan, then changed to Shito Ryu and had to get used to call them Heian
With much respect, I disagree. If kime means very little in kata why is it heavily stressed in most schools? Also, if minor movements dont mean much why don't we each do our own different kata (ie who defines which move is minor and which is major)? My opinion: demonstration of kime (as well as control of hardness and softness) is essential for karate; and there are no minor movements in kata - all are major and important, one should think twice before labeling a move as "minor". Just my opinion
-Kime is often stressed as an exercise more than a practical element of working techniques. But, there is nothing wrong with it.
-We do each preform our own kata, as defined by ryu.
-I agree that even minor movements have a purpose. My point from earlier is that different schools will train differently. That said, a jump vs. a step is a "minor" change because the point of the movement remains.
The jump in kata is a variation of the strain shito ryu ... but the traditional kata shito ryu not have the jump ... jump runs on the Shotokan style and kata is called heian godan, where there is also a variation in blockades and the different stances ... shito ryu which is called the Pinan Godan.
Do not practise this kata with the jump. The jump is a modification of the original kata which was created by Anko Itosu. There should be no jump and if you understand the kata you will understand why. Focusing on "impressive moves" in your katas leads to a false sense of ability. I am not impressed by this kata - not because there is no jump - but because there is no kime in the opening uke and tsuki.
What are you talking about. This kata is being properly demonstrated. It is intended for education. Shito Ryu is a little different from Shotokan, One word you might research,"Bunki". A minor difference between Ryu.
supongo que es normal,pero tiene algunas diferencias con el que practico yo,aun asi me ha gustado mucho
Pd:Mi Maestro es Esteban Perez Matas
TheAnarkia1991 3 weeks ago
butokukan style i learned has a jump as well, every style is a little different, shito ryu, gojo ryu, isshin ryu they're all a little different
magillacuddy1975 3 months ago
its better with jump and the way u land gives you or takes away points
laliz2010 4 months ago
im also from shito ryu karate but, the way i learned pinian godan is with jump. im thinking now is it your choice to jump or to just do kosa dachi?
bakagundum12 5 months ago
@bakagundum12 you probably picked it up in the west. a lot of the way it is done in shotokan has spread into the other ryu in the west. but in asia there is no jump. i am a shitoryu practitioner.
ratchadapalazzo 1 month ago
wow so i did shotokan and i learnt it different... and yeah there was a jump in it lol .. maybe the one i learnt was more 'stylized'
MizSabine 7 months ago
@MizSabine Each different style of karate do the kata a little differently. The heian version does, in fact, have a jump in it. :D
DemonofAvalon 7 months ago
@DemonofAvalon i see now lol.. and even the jumps are different, like in kyokushin we'd jump much further than in shotokan hehh
MizSabine 7 months ago
it's heian godan on shito ryu style not pinan, the pinan term is used on wado ryu
rocketfrako00o 7 months ago
wow, so much more different to the way that I learned pinan Godan, for a start the way I learned has a jump in it :L
theaateam1994 11 months ago 20
@theaateam1994 Gichen Funakoshi put in the jump to give it his own distinct signature, when he moved to Japan from Okinawa. As he also switched the order of Shodan and Nidan as Nidan was somewhat easier to learn / teach to to those coming off of Fyukyu katas. The deep left lunge punch-elbow smash-two handed grab leads into what is known now as "hani goshi" which is a hip throw with a leg assist - bunkai. Pretty hard to jump when you are throwing someone... You must have studied Shoto-kan.
shureikanshihan 10 months ago
@shureikanshihan cool that explains the differences, and I study Wado-Ryu style Karate
theaateam1994 10 months ago
@shureikanshihan I'm really curious to see that hani goshi in action. I study ju jutsu and if I'm honest I'm pretty hard pressed to see anything resembling a hani goshi in there. There's no familiar leg bar for the spring hip and nothing that helps me imagine a hip throw kuzushi! I studied wado ryu too and know how hidden throws can often seem without the bunkai, but I really can't see this one!
Epochofeno 8 months ago
@Epochofeno yes you are right when seeing more modern "Karate" post 1800's. I study old Okinawa-te and you can see the technique. We do more of a lapel grab (samurai armor) a fitting in motion (tai subaki) and a distinctive leg assist with the hip throw(we raise the right leg in the kata) where the jump is in Shoto-Kan, is a short series of stances; the bunkai is stepping over the thrown uke to put him between you and the next attacker.
shureikanshihan 3 weeks ago
@theaateam1994 Yeah, I learned it with a jump too ;p
MyPurpleSkittle 3 months ago
Hmm, interesting. From what I've seen of these videos it seems that everyone has learned a distinctly different way of doing these. Godan is a bit different toward the end for me. Usually goes into a sharp thrusting poke, then the rise to a standing position. Repeat for the other side, then end. (Also, Pinan Shodan and Nidan are switched around for me.)
SirRuto 11 months ago
Yes the original Pinan katas were developed from Chinese kata learned by Anko Itosu. Pinan is the original Chinese name. When Funikoshi introduced them to japan he called them Heian, a japanese word.
kyoku1982 1 year ago
@kyoku1982 Actually the name PInan was also Itosu Sensei's doing. He developed the Pinan series from sections of Kusanku and another kata called Chan-an (or a similar spelling) which is no longer widely practiced. But other than that, you are correct, because the form Kusanku was learned from a Chinese master bearing that name.
deek77 11 months ago
Their should be an updated version, the Kata has had some changes over the years
RamOfBod 1 year ago
good
maxav100 1 year ago
no shodan much easier den sandan
Shizoo10 1 year ago
tio n o e como no teneis berguenza de poner un cata con un estilo decarate si es de otro diferente la jente entra a ber los videos para saber hacer los catas conke no me digais que ese cata es dfe shitoriu cundo es de sotocan conque aber si dejamos de engañar a la jente de una puta bez
disabled90 2 years ago
@disabled90 Eh... Perdona, pero esta kata la practicamos también en shito-ryu. Si te fijas bien quizás aprecies alguna pequeña diferencia con la de tu estilo.
Y por favor, antes de hablar informate. Ah, y aprende algo de ortografía porque duele a los ojos leer un texto donde practicamente la mitad de las palabras están con faltas...
darkhanum 1 year ago
omg karate is so hypocritical. I train since 7 year old and can do better kata and kumite than any of you guys. But all this time I have been hating it, because you fuckin hypocrites claim to be WARRIORS and discipline and all that shit, but the reality is that you are bunch of weak pussies
JohnAntonyFortune 2 years ago
I pitty you. I've started training karate this year. I'm just a yellow belt, and I'm sure you are much better than me at katas and kumite. But you don't seem to be a karateka. Respecting others is one of the keys of karate, you know? If I were you I'd feel shameful. Not only you lack respect, but you insult karate also. You don't deserve to be called karateka.
darkhanum 2 years ago 2
good luck with your respect when u get ur ass kicked on the street
JohnAntonyFortune 2 years ago
and also you probably have a little life experience to know that for me a respect has to be earned and as you can see I have none whatsoever to suckers like yourself MR KARATEKA )
JohnAntonyFortune 2 years ago
@JohnAntonyFortune - You are not a true Karate student. It was a mistake for your sensei to even allow you to train for the amount of time you did. You are not worth their time.
Remember, only the truly strong have humility. The "pussies" are the ones who have to walk around puffing their chest out so nobody picks on them and exposes how weak they really are. Think about that next time you choose to disrespect people for really no reason at all.
Trevorthekid 2 years ago
If I end up like my master's black belt students I'm sure that won't happen. I'll keep on training hard everyday to accomplish that. Moreover, the best way to win a fight is to prevent it from starting. (Done so quite a few times). Noy only that, karate is not just a way to fight, but also a way to self-growth. I don't understand why you said what you said before. Why do you care about other people's strenght that much?
darkhanum 2 years ago
@JohnAntonyFortune karate is not abaout fighting its sad that karate has become a sport in the us karate is abaout to have harmony with your body and mind and after that learn to fight
carsan96 1 year ago 11
@carsan96 no disrespect, but I'm not sure I agree with you there. If my history is correct, then in Okinowa, I believe Karate was formed as self defense, primarily civilians defending themselves against military.
jtwidmer 1 year ago
@jtwidmer That was the orignal cause, But during the first inports to the Japanese Culture they changed a number of the kata's so that it would be both an offensive and diffence moves as well
kavverr 11 months ago
@jtwidmer Non taken.But I think of it like this, the human body is a weapon and karate teaches you how to use that weapon, but in order to use that weapon you and your mind must understand your body. Just a simpler explanation of what i meant.
carsan96 11 months ago
@carsan96 well put
jtwidmer 11 months ago
@carsan96 Don't blame everyone for it in the US. i don't do karate because i wanna fight!
vaughntaubenheim1963 2 weeks ago
@darkhanum u are 100procent right man
2monkbitz 1 year ago
@darkhanum
RamOfBod 1 year ago
@darkhanum
How are we not a Karateka. You just said we were'nt a Karateka without ANY reasons why. Also, I have been doing Shito-Ryu for 5 years and it's obviously a Karateka. Their are World Tournaments every 2 years and it's one of the most favored Karateka's in Japan. This kata has also changed over the years. Please dont make a stupid comment if you have no idea what you are talking about
RamOfBod 1 year ago
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@RamOfBod "omg karate is so hypocritical. I train since 7 year old and can do better kata and kumite than any of you guys. But all this time I have been hating it, because you fuckin hypocrites claim to be WARRIORS and discipline and all that shit, but the reality is that you are bunch of weak pussies"
That's what he said. I just answered that someone who says that kind of things can't be called a karateka. I said nothing about you. That answer of his lacks respect.
darkhanum 1 year ago
@RamOfBod As I said in the last answer I was just refering to "JohnAntonyFortune" because of his comment. Please, read again my answer. I may not know a lot about karate yet, but at least I know that respect is important. You know, calling other people "a bunch of weak pussies" even if you are stronger than them...
darkhanum 1 year ago
@darkhanum
Oh, I am sorry about that
RamOfBod 1 year ago
@RamOfBod Don't worry, it was just a misunderstanding ^^
darkhanum 1 year ago
@JohnAntonyFortune u really suck at karate if u have been training since u was 7years old and dont like it
dumbass
2monkbitz 1 year ago
@JohnAntonyFortune train since you were 7, and you're what, 8 now? Thats how you talk at least.
jtwidmer 11 months ago
@JohnAntonyFortune Dude, if you think Karate is for Pussies just take a look to Lyoto Machida /watch?v=o2m0VrfVzhQ
Im sure you cant beat him, he is a Karateka since he was 8 years old, the problem is not that karate is bad, the problem is that you are a bad pupil. If someone kicked your ass is because you are a bad student.
MusicRevolution68 9 months ago
In my organisation (shukokai style) we do nidan, then sandan, yondan, this, then shodan. And we do the jump, even though though our focus is on fighting, not showing.
Niflheim13 2 years ago
I just received my shodan rank three days ago. These movements are perfect for a begginner student to learn
Hoffy704 2 years ago
where? i never make any jump? In the end?
ExploreGamer 2 years ago
Easiest to hardest of the pinans:
1.Pinan Nidan
2.Pinan Shodan
3.Pinan Sandan
4.Pinan Yondan
5.Pinan Godan
ExploreGamer 2 years ago
I would agree but I would change two of them around, Pinan Sandan is easier than Pinan Shodan
TheBlackWolf128 2 years ago 4
@TheBlackWolf128
lol i got double promo from pinan shodan
and theres one thing isnt the name supposed to be heian godan?
mightycotton 1 year ago
@TheBlackWolf128 no! shodan is easier anyday
Queenoftheicenoggs 1 year ago
@TheBlackWolf128
Our president has changed ours...order from 8th is now pinan nidan, pinan sandan, then pinan shodan.
Genbu kai international
SpeciMana 1 year ago
@SpeciMana our's got changed too, i think.
Pinan Sandan has aways been my favorite.
some people thing that Pinan Shodan is easier. It just depends.
blueloveex3 1 year ago
@blueloveex3
I'm a bigger fan of pin-nan yon-dan
SpeciMana 9 months ago
lol basically the pinans in numerical order
aaindahouse 2 years ago
whoa really? I learned shodan first. i dont think sandan (theblackwolf128) or nidan are easier than shodan. i learned shodan, sandan, nidan, yondan, godan.
mrtheblr 2 years ago
shodan is easier for me than nidan. that damn 45 degree scoratch! lol.
sociopathpsych 2 years ago
in the organisation i study shitoryu wiv the jump has been taken out of the kata, and the starting angles are different (as are all the pinans at the start, and pinan shodan an nidan are now the other way around)
gianttrials 2 years ago
me gusta mucho esta kata, en mi opinion es mas facil que heian sandan
NekoMilixD 2 years ago
Wow. I knew Shihan changed this kata a bit since this video was done but, my god, the way its done currently is SOO much different from this.
twinblade63 2 years ago
Eu...where's the jump but most of all...where's the energy? No Key-I ?
kanashta1 2 years ago
E...where's the energy gone?
kanashta1 2 years ago
No jump?
Coldshadow25 2 years ago
this is totally different from what i have learnt. there is not much speed and no jumping movement. but i guess this could also be one of the ways of doing it.
krishnendudutta 2 years ago
i was taught different
assmotrone43 2 years ago
this is different from the way i was taught.
JoshLucas5 3 years ago
Tru
InBuddhaiTrust 2 years ago
meencanta esta kata, esta kata, está bien Avatar, pero si la dejo de practicar se me olvida T_T
Anenovivichan 3 years ago
jajajajajaja....Mauricio Troncoso Gutiérrez, THE BEST,see him in this page.
moris737 3 years ago
I just started on this kata.
JoshLucas5 3 years ago
this is my favorite Pinan kata! I've practiced many martial arts since beginning with Tani-ha kofu kan shito ryu back in the 1980 but never found anything to match the balance of power and grace shito ryu provides!
crogusmcnogus 3 years ago
ammmm no me kabe en mi kabesota,,, no me lapuedo aprender,,,me quedo a la mitad
307196305 3 years ago
entrenala por partes,dividela en grupos y aprendetelos bien,segun bayas dominando esos bloques te metes en otro y asi hasta que termines el kata,pero si se te hace complicado sigue entrenando los mas bajos,shodan,nidan e,c,t,es mejor dominar bien un solo kata que hacer mal los cinco.suerte.oosss
todogeri 3 years ago
dale locoooo!!!es el más vistoso de los cinco,si lo haces bien en algún torneo ganas seguro,el trbajo de cintura es primordial para un buen kimé y destaca la potencia,saludos.
La15chivo 3 years ago
This is exacty how Otsuka the founder of Wado Ryu does Godan.
Wado suxx, Mutsemans? And why is that?
hairystinknugget 3 years ago
no... sorry but this is shito ryu. do a search on pinan godan wadoryu, its quite different.
WadoAJ 3 years ago
Wado-Ryu karate SUXX!!
kyokushin karate FTW ..
i don't know how u can do those kata's .. but mabey it's easier if u learn them 2 bloke infront of the cross.. it's a lil painfull when they got his in the balls..
mutsemans 3 years ago
This is Wado-Ryu karate.
Thanx for this vid!
Do you have video's of kata naihanshi too?
mfsweb 3 years ago
thanx a lot this really helped me. i am going for my brown belt test on sunday and I needed a liittle more work on this Kata so thanks for all of the help!
SkateboardGirl24 3 years ago
I do it way different. I move a lot more in this with a lot more heavy breathing in the beginning.
And a huge jump, and two ball grabs. lul
darkyexelol 3 years ago
This is not Pinan kata. This is Heian "standardized version".
gwrose40 3 years ago
heian and pinan mean the same and have the same kanji. 平安
WadoAJ 3 years ago
there is a jump but it varies. i do it with a jump.
lailaaazizi 3 years ago
je préfère le karate shotokan
fandesteve 3 years ago
he ???? without a jump ??? i know the godan with a jump !!!!
earthshaker2689 3 years ago
This is SO weird, man. I mean, it's the first time i've ever heard about Shito Ryu, and I need a moment... This is odd. I mean, I'm just not used to it, that's all. (Pinan? HEIAN!)
:)
YoffiGoffen 3 years ago
Heian is in Japanese, Pinan is in Okinawan, and Shito-Ryu is an Okinawan style..
(both words mean the same - "trail of peace" or somthing like that) that's all..
Nemesis5215 3 years ago
They used to be called Pinan, now they've changed it to Heian, but even shotokan calls them Pinan, I used to practise shotokan before, and called them Pinan, then changed to Shito Ryu and had to get used to call them Heian
veela1 3 years ago
If you truly understand the kata then you will understand that the performance with or without specific minor movements or kime means very little!
Learn from the differences in styles and don't be so quick to correct things that really don't matter.
the2703 3 years ago
With much respect, I disagree. If kime means very little in kata why is it heavily stressed in most schools? Also, if minor movements dont mean much why don't we each do our own different kata (ie who defines which move is minor and which is major)? My opinion: demonstration of kime (as well as control of hardness and softness) is essential for karate; and there are no minor movements in kata - all are major and important, one should think twice before labeling a move as "minor". Just my opinion
emotionumist 3 years ago
-Kime is often stressed as an exercise more than a practical element of working techniques. But, there is nothing wrong with it.
-We do each preform our own kata, as defined by ryu.
-I agree that even minor movements have a purpose. My point from earlier is that different schools will train differently. That said, a jump vs. a step is a "minor" change because the point of the movement remains.
the2703 3 years ago
I see your point and understand. Thank you for explaining. Arigato!
emotionumist 3 years ago
The jump in kata is a variation of the strain shito ryu ... but the traditional kata shito ryu not have the jump ... jump runs on the Shotokan style and kata is called heian godan, where there is also a variation in blockades and the different stances ... shito ryu which is called the Pinan Godan.
oss!!
gilmarfps 4 years ago
Do not practise this kata with the jump. The jump is a modification of the original kata which was created by Anko Itosu. There should be no jump and if you understand the kata you will understand why. Focusing on "impressive moves" in your katas leads to a false sense of ability. I am not impressed by this kata - not because there is no jump - but because there is no kime in the opening uke and tsuki.
emotionumist 4 years ago
well, this is an tutorial video, just for learn.
DirtyRamires 4 years ago
Dude,
What are you talking about. This kata is being properly demonstrated. It is intended for education. Shito Ryu is a little different from Shotokan, One word you might research,"Bunki". A minor difference between Ryu.
kreveybill 4 years ago
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saeshteora 4 years ago
This is my favorite Pinan kata.
MonsterMashKiller 4 years ago
kiai of course is a must, it was only a video that showed you the moving techniques.
sarengatng 4 years ago
hmmm slightly different to the way I learned it.
We do a kind of sliding stamp at the end in cat stance, cant remember the name of the actual technique though.
I noted there were no kiai's also
rob1outram 4 years ago
me too
xCrestfallen 4 years ago
no jump?
snowballs4990 4 years ago 2
in old version yes there was, newly revised, no. It was revised on some 25 years ago!
sarengatng 4 years ago
thats what i thought!
obvisly sarengatng was right :P
RecycleElf 4 years ago
I practice this with the jump :P
Nonchiie 4 years ago
i hope to be this good someday too.
ShiroiKumo1 5 years ago
well done. loving this...ive only just started this kata :)
sierraxr4icosie 5 years ago