Tomorrow is 1st July 14th anniversary of the birth of the SAR - Guess what the chief Execuite would say - HK people is happy with China??? Because it seems that China had respected the 1984 treaty too well and PLA kept out of HK people's lives.
And strange to say that Chinese leadership did not order anything to wreck HK's peace allowed current laws left behind by us to stay active. But I suspect secretly some people who are against China taken away to Chinese prison. Bye Bye British HK!
@dravidwake I don't feel bad because I'm a great supporter of the Chinese government, with the tough policies China can have a stable enviroment to develop. If any Hong Kongers don't like Chinese rule, they can move out of Hong Kong, we don't need them there.
@Myles0Harcourt What China needs now is a stable nation to develop. Without stability, everything is nothing, democracy needs to be step by step, it's moving but take time, we understand that and we wait.
I know that HK has a special status within the PRC, but even so, it goes against every principle to hand over British subjects to a dictatorship. We should have handed them over to Taiwan/ROC, which after all still claims itself to be the legitimite government of all China.
@Myles0Harcourt If you handed HK to Taiwan, our Chinese PLA would cross the border right away to kick your Brits back to Britain and get HK back, your Brits do know who is the real master LOL!!!
Mind you, it would be ROC troops you fought once we gave it to them. It's their problem, and we have still given British subjects to a democratic power. If you attacked the ROC on that matter it would not look very good to the rest of the world.
@Myles0Harcourt The rest of the world? You mean your Western countries feeling upset? We don't care, if you did the wrong thing, we would do the right thing to teach you a lesson. If you handed HK back to Taiwan we would kick your ass but luckily for you that you knew you should hand HK back to PRC haha LOL!!!!!!
Considering your economy is based on the cheap crap you churn out in your sweatshops for Western Countries, if we all stopped buying Chinese, because you upset us, your economy would no longer exist.
@Myles0Harcourt LOL look at your Western countries now, all of you are full of debts, you ppl have shit to do, Britain is a falling old power no one thinks it is important anymore. Face it our China is a rising superpower but your Britain just is an old dog love to hide yourself behind the US to bark and lick American ass to survive haha LOL!!!
@Myles0Harcourt What China needs now is stability, without stability there won't be any development, freedom only bring chaos, we believe our gov't to keep our country safe, 100% to support our gov't.
@Myles0Harcourt If you don't bark like crazy at China I will explain to you, China is a big developing country with big population, to China the first priority is stability because that's what China lacks in the past. When economic development reachs to a level, China will have democracy, same as Taiwan or S Korea didn't have democracy before the 90's. From what I heard China will have democracy within the CCP then spreading to the whole nation in the future, maybe 10-20 yrs, just be patient.
@fastkillmmm As far as I heard about the train crash in China - it seems that the Government is ignoring corruptions within China's business interests.
For many years people protest about corruption but Government ignored them until now. The CCP is now sacking many rails officials and expelling some CCP members so it seems, according to the BBC.
both China and Communist party still have corruptions within them. Democracy won't work in China unless CCP get rid of corruptions.
@DavBlc7 Train crash? Just accident that's all, this is something so new for China, not easy to handle the new technology. Didn't you see the US or EU made airplanes crash almost each year around the globe? And US already lost 2 space shuttles and ppl got killed. Japanese Toyota cars can hit wall by themselves and their nuclear power plant still spreading radiation. Corruption? Why don't you go to Indonesia, Vietnam or India to see how bad their corruption is? Far worse than China LOL!!!
@fastkillmmm It's not whether the train crash was an accident or not. The issue is how the accident is being handled. The way that the incident was handled in China such as the supression of the media in reporting the incident is a naked display of the problem of a regime that does not respect basic human rights.
@tiramisu100 Wrong, most of media in China report it openly that's why so many people clearly know about this matter. Yes that's true some of our officials don't respect human right but you can't blame on the whole gov't, our gov't respects human right therefore our premier Wen Jiabao gave the order to have a full investigation. Why don't you wait until after the full investigation comming out first then you start to bark?
@fastkillmmm You are absolutely right is pointing out that most of the media in China reported in openly and many people knew about this matter. The issue was not how it was reported by the media (an encouraging development in China) but how the government tried to control and restrict how the incident was reported (a deplorable action on the part of the government).
@fastkillmmm You have hit a blind spot by failing to distinguish between the two and fail to see how the lack of respect in human rights on the part of the Chinese government has hindered the development of a civic society. Wen Jiabao did order a full investigation. But that has nothing to do with respects paid to human rights. It is merely the minimum expected of any government after such a tragedy.
@fastkillmmm It is a bit far-fetched to argue like you do that Wen’s order shows that the Chinese government is respecting human rights. It is interesting to see what conclusions the Chinese government draws after its investigation. But past history has not show a promising record.
@tiramisu100 What conclusion? Just wait and see, we already put so many corrupted officials into jail you retard, some of them ran to Western countries but funny you Western gov't keep them safe there not to allow them back to China to get the punishment they should have, see this is evidence that your Western nations try to split China into different small pieces like what happen to USSR haha because you know so well when China is powerful you Westerners have no chance to rule the world Lol.
@tiramisu100 If the gov't controls the media then how do the media report and allow so many people to know? Maybe there are some restriction but that's understandable, the Western nations like you always try to split China into so many pieces by spreading rumors, what you want to see is China in chaos, ppl in starvation no economic development then you can continue to rule the world and bomb the countries in middle east anytime you want, you try to spread propaganda to destroy China, NO WAY!
@fastkillmmm Your factual errors: (1) The Western nations do not want to "split China into so many pieces by spreading rumour". A split up China will be exporting refugees. No country, out of self-interest, like to see that. (2) The Western countries do not want to "rule the world". (3) Only the US and the UK fought in the Iraq war. The rest of the Western countries did not support the war. Get your facts rights first and don't see everything from an imperialism / anti-imperialism perspective.
@tiramisu100 Yes your Western nations always try to split China into many pieces by spreading your propaganda. You care less about refugees, what you care is your power, and yes your Western powers always want to rule the world, you support Israel to rule Palestine, you create conflict between India and Pakistan, you invade Iraq to control their oil. Haha US and UK are 2 big heads of Western world so anything about these 2 nations represent the whole Western world.
@DavBlc7 I somewhat agree with you, democracy won't work in China unless there is no more corruption, that's why China can't have democracy right now, go to have a look of India, the biggest democratic country in the world is full of corruption and very poor, China is better than India because China isn't a democratic nation. Chinese leaders already admitted that they have corruption and they are fixing China, just be patient, democracy will come.
@DavBlc7 Hey you Brits stop criticizing China this and that, look how shitty your Britain now, riots, looting, killing all the shit non stop. Why don't you guys just spend sometime to fix your own economy and help your own ppl before interfering in other country's business?
the uk gives over £7.8 billion in aid to countries like china india, russia, and many african countries this u will also like to know is the largest amount of aid given by any country. if uk stopped this aid, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE. so is tht good enough reason for britain to help people. or i guess u dont care about the millions who would die without it.
@WasLilChrisnowbigish Don't lie you Brits don't give any money to China, yes you give money to India because the Indians lick your ass. Please just admit it, you're past empire, you don't have any power anymore, you should stop criticizing other countries and deal with your unemployment and riot ok?
i dont lie brits have given over £170 million in aid to china, look it up if u dont belive me. uk employment is pretty low at 7%, and the riots have stopped.
@WasLilChrisnowbigish I don't care how much Brits gave to other countries, most time of your history you went to invade other nations, colonized them and robbed their natural resource, before you left you created conflits between nations, the problem between Israel and palestine and India and Pakistan all were created by you. Hey China now is the 2nd economy in the world, our GDP is $4 trillion USD if calculated in PPP is $10 trillion USD, your £170 million isn't enough for a snack.
tell tht to starving people who would of died without the aid not me. also even tho ur the 2nd largest economy, u still have some of the poorest people, tht basically says it all. secondly dont critise brits imperialism, as china was an imperial power too, also britian actually mainly colonised (and some of these lands had no natives) except for india. the problems u mentioned are true that uk has played a part, but the main prob between those nations is religion.
@WasLilChrisnowbigish Don't worry we will take care of our poor people, you give money to the poor countries just for the propaganda purpose, you want ppl in the 3rd world believe in you then you can continue to steal their natural resource, but hey no one believes in you anymore that's why Britain is getting poorer and poorer, you're full of debt, your ppl have no job then go on to the street to rob, to burn hahaha the empire of great Britain is dying.
where in the 21st century who gives a shit about empires we have moved on from then, and if china is really a communist state why dont u start acting like one i.e. give power to factory worker, coz thts whats communism is. also show me proof tht aid workers are stealing african natural resources? also to ur last point tht is very small minority of people, also britain aint getting poorer, in the long run it doesnt matter as if USA economy falls both china and uk will be affected.
@WasLilChrisnowbigish We're now market economy, the Stalin style economy doeesn't work, you can see that in Cuba, gov't can't control too much now, but we have law to protect them but we have to be in reality, our competitors are India, Indonesia and Vietnam, those countries have no worker right nothing and their labour are cheaper than China, if we control too much, investors would run to other countries. But now young ppl get good education and work much better job with better pay less work.
@Myles0Harcourt Well, as you may well known, Taiwan has military agreement with the US meaning US military can be recalled to defend Taiwan should it be attacked. It was signed many years ago and is still active today.
Nowadays, the ROC government are still friendly with China on trade and economic matters, even travel to and from mainland China. Both have families on both sides so would be good for them on every Chinese New Year, but not for Communist party!
good it happened peacefully ...it had to happen but without trouble its better!imperialists caused enough suffering in Asia.good theyve left.its better if everyone stays were they are..watever God gave them...even if its little...if theyre not satisfied then go to hell.its time to live in peace work for mankind to ensure our safety & existence until God takes our right to life 4rm us!
The British caused massive social problems in China by forcing China to agree to British free trade of illegal substance known as Opium.
My Great-Grand father was a wealthy land lord in China before he got addicted to British opium, and he had to finance his addiction by selling all his land, furniture, assets, and even his children into slavery.... This obviously ruined my family's fortunes for at least 3 generations.
for all you people supporting British imperialism, you don't understand.
@Phead128 The Opium wars only happened because of the trade deficit with China which happened because China made xenophobic policies. They were happy to make money from Britain but were not happy to give anything back. A bit like what the Chinese government is doing today with currency manipulation.
Opium wars happened because British wanted to preserve the de-facto legality of their highly lucrative and competitive trade in opium, partly to rectify the trade imbalances from hungry British craving of Chinese products (like today), and the lack of consumption of the culturally inferior foreign products of the West. Chinese xenophobia is combined with a complete sense of cultural superiority, if you had read the Qianlong letter to King George, you would have seen this.
Chinese xenophobia is combined with a complete sense of cultural superiority, so the contempt of foreign barbaric items was seen as normal, since China had everything she needed, and it was the West that wanted to buy from China.
British proved her cultural superiority by her low moral character, using addictive characteristics of a drug to rectify silver trade imbalances, and using the military to back illegal drug trade is morally inferior indeed.
most chinks guy youtube is chinese secret police they writting communist dictator`s propaganda over and over again its their job but noone read it so funny hahahaha
Fuck China...We don't need you Chinese army garrison in Hong Kong. UK was taken care of HK for more than 150years. British's contribution the China government will never understand.
@wayne1314 respect to you hongkonese,1997 was a sad year for us here in britain,not all politicians agreed with handing it back to china,but we had no choice,by law we had leased it for 200 years,that time ran out in 1997 :O(
My Great Grandfather was highly addicted to opium... he had to sell everything, from his land, furniture, house assets, and even my grandfather into slavery to finance his addiction to Opium.
The HK is an entrepot for British traders with extraterritory for trading opium to rebalance the silver trade deficit with the British East India company.
You will never understand the social problems caused to China by the Opium wars. It's okay though, I can forgive you.
Surely the producers of this video are guilty of copyright infringement..... I'm sure the makers of Takeshi's Castle wouldn't be happy they nicked their backing soundtrack.
Now being December 25, 2010, it has been proved without a doubt that HK should have declared independence or formed an ally with Taiwan, and not let fall in the hands of these extremely corrupt brutal profligate bandits masked behind Communism.
@lionlwat I am afraid, Hk will not became independant or even want British to return cos there is a clause in the 1984 treaty (probably put there by Chinese government).
In it Britain promise never to take HK back and forbids Hk to became an independent nation. The PLA is there to protect Chinese sovereignty over HK. Schoolchildren there learned to love the motherland and know about China - even singing Chinese national anthem - Within 30 years more HK people will swore loyalty to China.
I remember watching the Union Jack come down and the PRC Flag go up where I used to live years ago. I was only a kid back then and had no idea what was going on :P I do miss Hong Kong.
yes that right your king and queen use to be former invader drug slave dealer and right now are using form of human right to manipulate the world your finance system are making the poor country just keeping pay interest ask African they will tell you i am clad Asia got rip of from your we got no hate to European american you all way well come as friend not with mind like your ancestor in 18 century about Tibet dale Lamar are cult he is not religion Buddha not ambition to have power like him.
Britain and Hong Kong still have very close links....
I remember at the time many in Hong Kong didn't want the British to leave and I know even today some in Hong Kong are still very loyal to the British and our Royal Family.
That is why the United Kingdom met the Chinese government and held years of talks about making sure Hong Kong would never be communist but would be a free country who could rule itself.
I accept that some people didn't like the British Empire, many even within the UK itself didn't like the Empire.
However the majority of people did like it. Why? Because for most people it benefited them. African nations under British control had jobs, had food, there was no civil wars or conflicts because the British army was there to keep the peace and defend the nations. Elsewhere in Africa nations were tearing themselves apart.
haha something we agree on, I agree that the British will listen to others. Unlike the USA we aren't afraid to back down on an issue if it's in the best interests of everyone. The USA however never back down because they think if they back down then the world will see them as being week.
Whatever the British Empire was, its gone now. British people care more about being friends with countries like China, having strong trade agreements and working together to help the world.
@51wins followup of ur post even'f its 8months.If u say ''Whatever the British Empire was, its gone now. British people care more about being friends with countries ''' then u cant say they gave democracy/railways etc.its not a gift they gave us.they couldnt take the railways wid them can they? they dint leave few batallions 2 overc transfer of power 2 prevent riots!they stayed 4 ages but hurry 2 leave when time came,eh?.ur ancestors made blunders.forgive them as we have!not appease their guilt!
I agree the Empire is gone, but most former members are part of the Commonwealth which is fantastic as we can be friends and share our history together through trade, investment and other events like sports in the Commonwealth games.
@51wins yes if we keep it that way we all agree...i ought to remind u that the SNP in UK is trying to bring a freedom refrendum for scotland within 5 yrs...ppl voted them into govt on that promise...sorry if it worries u but this is all the karma falling on ur nation...i like the british ppl today as they are more informed now & they can be cheated if the media lies to them or blair,but they are mostly good. tc i wish peace to ur ppl too & no hard feelings,eh....
The UK is made up of 4 countries, each of those countries can leave the Union any time they want. Each of the 4 countries has their own governments already which make their own ways.
However I don't think Scotland will leave the UK, SNP are the biggest party that around 60/70% of Scottish people don't want independence.
The SNP became the biggest party because the Labour Party were hated by Scottish voters.
@51wins majority of the people? you must be fucking stupid LOL the only people that liked them were the newer generations who had no clue they invaded. these new generations do not even make up a signification portion of the hk population.
Also, cities like Singapore, Hong Kong were made economic centres of Asia because of the British Empire. If Hong Kong had of been just another city in China they would never be as successful as they are today.
India has its rail-roads and we give them democracy and stable government.
Australia, New Zealand and Canada are both rich and successful because of the British Empire.
Even the USA was born from the British Empire, it was built and governed by British descendants.
@51wins These places would not need Britain so much had British Empire not thoroughly destroyed the local infrastructures. Do you forget that China was the center of economic trade for most of human history? Its fall came when it was struck during the opium war.
@51wins The USA were not really governed by British descants cos there were also German, Irish, Swedish, Russian, Danish and Dutch descendants who made up the American people. They don't see themselves as British subject cos they weren't come from Britain itself but from almost all over Europe.
French controls Louisiana, Spanish controls most of the area in the west beyond British and French borders.
Florida is mixed Spanish, French and British before finally taken by Spanish.
Your right there were all other kinds of descendants but before Independence their numbers were very small in the 13 colonies the majority were British and it was Britain who controlled the government, made the rules and the first people were British.
It was the 13 colonies (British/Americans) who then started to grow and took or bought Louisiana and the West from the French/Spanish.
@51wins i have 2 disagree.ur argument is half truth & incomplete.1>British built railways 2 feed its interests 2 build its cities.4 mining & 4 grains transport.bcz Indians travelled 2 class not allowd in 1st.Even educated upper class Indians were thrown out of coaches which proves they dint build raiways for welfare of Indian ppl.2>British dint give democracy.Indian freedom fighters who fought 4 freedom/basic rights got us democracy 4rm autocratic brit Raj.Let us not see things at face value!!
@51wins many ppl died fightin 4freedom 2get democraticRights 4rm monarchy.Britain might have been democratic but dint c asians fit enough 2 get same rights.illitrates dint fight 4 our independence.Great leaders like Mahatma Gandhi.Educated men like Nehru who new more than any of us about democracy & how it shud function fought for it.If brits gave democracy why did we have 2fight them?this is how they want 2be seen2 save face.One island controlled half of asia.now they have one island 2 live in!
@51wins all of the above can be considered as blessing in disguise.they dint gift it to asians .we aquired this knowledged form them.democracy isnt knew to indian or asia.its mentioned in ancient texts & scriptures.harappa mohenjodaro & indus valley civiliztions had a democratic way of governance.it is not neww to us.we remmbered wat we deserve after yrs of autocratic imperialist rule.many millions died all over asia.u can try seeing bengal famine also known as bengal massacre!
Unlike other Chinese cities, we were given peace which other cities lacked. China was developing into a peaceful democracy in 1930s until the Japanese invaded and which the Communist Chinese took advantaged off. HK rapidly rose after 1949 from the influx of ROC refugees retreating to HK that allowed Hk's economic boom due to the many talents in 1950s.
Even Taiwan now, ROC were managed to make it boom despite much later. What China need is peace and those dam commies to perish.
@ratanasu You're from China. Didn't you once allow a man (Mao) to help starve millions of your own people? Don't you currently let yourselves be ruled by a rather unfreindly government which executes people for rather minor crimes? Don't you see what you have done to Tibet?
not only that, who do you think was killing indians before america was an independent nation?!?!? whats with the double standards on that anyways? i always hear how bad america was because of our treatment of the natives, well the British and France did the same damn thing, sheesh. isnt history fun, you can find out the most hated nation on the earth today is only following in UK footsteps. i dont mean any disrespect by that but come on, stop the double standards almost all nations are guilty.
It was certainly wrong for Britain to invade China in the 19th century - imperialism is sickening. But the Brits did a wonderful job with Hong Kong, and it saddens me that they handed over this thriving FREE metropolis to an authoritarian state. Even that state realizes how awkward this is, in that they have given more rights to Hong Kong citizens than to other Chinese citizens. Can't wait till the Chinese leaders are dragged into the streets one day.....
@nojyt If the British did such a wonder job, then why did their other colony goes to ship. The British did nothing, Chinese people did everything. All the British did was allow people to trade. Ever heard of sanctions. The British just collect money. So to give all the accomplishment of HK to British is really disgusting.
@shootthedevil I understand your objection to colonialism; I share it. But from the one-sided comments you have posted, you (and AndyHwang, below) strike me as a nationalist. You would be first in line to excuse the worst kinds of atrocities if it meant promoting your own particular ideology.
I really can't discuss anything with someone like that.
@jasperc121 haha..I highly doubt it. The area of Canton has always been a major trading port of china. Developing the hinterland around canton(Hong Kong, macau..) was only a matter of time. But of course, HK wouldn't be a major finanical centre.
@andyhwang2009 hong kong became a financial center because of british rule. Back then China was in a isolated state not doing trade with other countries.
BTW african countries under british rule didn't become develop because of their location. hong kong's location is perfect for trade and if there is trade there is opportunity for people.
UK lost war to China in 1997 because China got back HK from UK in 1997. China won over UK because China got back HK from UK. All chinese underestimate British because of your 19th century whore, slut, hypocrite opium cartel British Queen Victoria , Lord Palmerston (the British Foreign Secretary in opium war ), Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China in opium war ) , East India company.
Hypocrite ,slut ,whore , daughter of bitch , stupid British Queen Victoria opium cartel , Lord Palmerston(the British Foreign Secretary ), Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China ) , East India company are Hypocrite stupid opium cartels during 19th century. Shame on you hypocrite stupid British Queen , politicians , East India company and Merchants
@andyhwang2009 Does current UK government condemn these hypocrite , stupid , whore, slut 19th century British Queen Victoria opium cartel government , hypocrite stupid Lord Palmerston (the British Foreign Secretary), opium cartel Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China ) ? Current UK students hate 19th century these stupid hypocrite British opium cartels?
All Chinese must destroy Statues of Opium War criminals Queen Victoria, Lord Palmerston (the British Foreign Secretary ), and Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China ) in Hong Kong and UK.
You don't understand relattion between Politics and Military. World Military Guru said " You have biggest military success if you get back your territory from your enemy without firing a bullet". Ok. China got back HK from British UK without firing a bullet. UK fear China nuke power. So they gave back HK to China. China will occupy china by military force and nuke UK if UK don't give back HK to China.
@andyhwang2009 Andy, nationalists like you seldom understand history. Two things about the Falklands: 1) they were never part of Argentina, but only (occasionally) part of the Spanish empire; 2) every single person living on the islands self-identified as British, not Argentinian. THAT is why the British fought for them. Hong Kong was an entirely different scenario. Comparisons like yours are meaningless.
UK British fear China nukes so UK don't dare to fight with China. China is not 19 century China. OK. UK British are hypocrite. UK British don't give back HK to China if China is weak country. But China is stonger than Argentina and UK so UK fear and gave back HK to China.China will occupy by force and nuke UK if UK don't give back HK to China.
@andyhwang2009 So now that you see how silly your Falklands comparison is, you have ignored it and moved on. Typical. You're right; though, that China is not like in the 19th century. But neither is Britain. Britain has consistently moved away from overt imperialism for decades now. It is more interested in getting wealth from trade with China than from conquest. Don't kid yourself about nuclear weapons - Britain has them too. If one country used them, the other country would be annihilated.
to be fair, little frenchies liked to fancy themselves as the dominant power in the continent, that is until they realized they had a huge neighbor in the east. the idea that Germany was 100% at fault in WW2 is also part true, part false at least in a sense, by causation Germany became aggressive as a result of the Versailles Treaty; before that Germany was again a victim of the cocksucking frenchies who marched into Rhineland and raped the German women under the banner of "democracy"!
brits like to fanny themselves as the 'master race', second to none and all that crap, but in fact they are the SCUMS on this earth. Simply put, the brits ain't nothing but the parasites that swim around in human excrement. self-serving nonsense speaks for the brits' own general tendency. the idea that the brits tried to get the jerries a better deal in the Treaty of Versailles is nothing but a heap of trash. brits wanted gerries bankrupt so one less competitor in global colonization!
my pants are Made in China, dude. oh, correction, mr. "Welshman". good to see ya here. btw, ahh, how's that 'diversity' thing going on in your england?? have the dick-sucking brits stopped claiming Welsh, Scotland, Ireland, etc. as part of the 'united' 'kingdom' and all that shit? no? oh okay. maybe folks in UK 'are just hard working volk[s] who just want to get on in life and have no interest in causing anyone else grief '? maybe. who knows. who gives a flying fuck, right? is uk anyway. ja?
ROFL your the one to talk with a country that blames ppl and getting into a war and electing a president like Bush that consectively lied for 8 yrs, and yet morons like you still believe him.
and your "insight" that the Tibetans are 'victims only' might be questioned by the earlier Dalai Lamas themselves, as they were the ones who BEGGED to be included in the Chinese sovereignty before Mao Tse-tung was even a commie chairman himself !
what's more, have you ever asked yourself that the "Royal Canuck Armed Forces" are for 'defense only' might be questioned by the French Canadian people in the Quebec region of Canada?
All this hostility simply because someone voiced their own personal view on something that being "tropicalbuddhabeads". Folks it's Freedom of Speech. No harm in giving your own point of view but really you should learn to respect other views even if you disagree. But I do feel the need after reading some of the above, before China plays the victim card again, how about those Tibetan monks that are still missing? like the Brits did you crush those wanting freedom with brute force? Ironic.
Ironic, you said? To answer your question, you need to ask yourself: Were the cocksucking parasitic brits nice to you Welsh? Or for that matter to the Scots? To the Irish? To the American Colonists whom the brits brutally crushed? Or to the Indians? Or to the Germans with the Treaty of Versailles? Learn some history, stuff some real knowledge in your guts before you fancy your veiled bigotry in the form of a grandstanding, mister "welshman".
I don't know what about you, but personally I have yet seen a group of clergymen, in modern days at least, be they Catholics, Protestants, American Methodists, Lutherans, Penecostals, etc. etc., gang up on innocent, unarmed human beings and beat the daylight out of them, or in some cases, outright maimed or murdered them? However, I saw on news footages those same criminal acts perpetrated and commited by the cloak-wearing Tibetan monks. THAT is not ironic. THAT is criminal acts, mister.
Yeah in the past the Welsh got a ruff deal, but the past is the past, is it an excuse to commit crimes and use it as a means of justification I think not! Also the UK now days is ran by the Scots. As for the Yanks, if you read the real facts they had better healthcare, education, were generally richer, healthier and all that jazz than anyone in the UK other than the ruling Elite. The yanks just wanted more, the taxes were only to make up for the fact we had just stopped the French taking over!
As for the treaty of Versailles it was the Brits who tried to get the Germans a better deal, the French wanted the worst. Anyhow Britain did some bad stuff, I'm not slightly ashamed to admit it, it made us the better Country we are today a mutli cultural tolerant society. A free Democractic society, where you can say mostly what you like about the UK without vanishing. But anyway question to you, do you think it is then right for China to invade another Country and oppress its people?
So now the Europeans are admiting their wrongs in a sorrowfull manner but claim that surging powers cannot invade someone else? England left Hong Kong with its tail between its legs otherwise the Chinese would have wiped their ass out in to the Ocean, Brits are a sorry race
We're not a sorry race, we're a race that has learnt that Empires/Racism etc is wrong. Instead Britain is the most tolerant multi cultural society anywhere in the World.
Sure, all I hear from people that go to your country is that you guys are a bunch of punks, so much for being tolerant, plus whenever you see brits, they act like their shit dont smell, that's anywhere, U.S. latinamerica, Asia etc.
Well tell you what, do something smart instead of listening to hear say! go to the UK and see it for yourself and then feel free to comment. As frankly I know some right dick heads over here, same as in every country, yanks, aussies, french or kenyan every country has its wankers! but most people in the UK are just hard working folk who just want to get on in life and have no interest in causing anyone else grief.
dude is hearsay ain't 'hear say'. btw, unlike the other gent, 'enchilada', I been to England and seen first hand what ur 'most tolerant multi-cultural society' was about. 1st, your weather SUCKS. no wonder you - well, generically speaking, welsh(wo)men included in 'brits' I suppose - brits r so unhappy, dry humored and downright hateful bunch of jackasses. road rages were everywhere; I witnessed myself. 'bloody wanker!'
'u bloody bastard!' they screamed @ each other. -->
well your the one to talk. Road rage, ill humor, and stupid egoism of patriotism also runs all over the US. Guess you dont even know the state of Alabama or Texas that constantly have rednecks pointing guns and shooting at random things.
You think british are bad?? Worse goes for the American and their moronic fatness and stupidity of starting wars.
oh, and then, the food. if u can call it 'food': watered down 'scrambled eggs' (yuk!), so-called 'english bangers' - english style 'sausages' which were neither sausages nor bratwursts in edible sense: dry, flat, unhappy, tasteless (sounds familiar?).., then the 'bread' made out of.. saw dust? the Fanta orange drink and a milk somewhere between non-fat and 0.00005% real milk! oh that was impressive. real treat to human tummies. shall I go on, mr. Matty-o-Welshman? I can. I really can.
Tomorrow is 1st July 14th anniversary of the birth of the SAR - Guess what the chief Execuite would say - HK people is happy with China??? Because it seems that China had respected the 1984 treaty too well and PLA kept out of HK people's lives.
And strange to say that Chinese leadership did not order anything to wreck HK's peace allowed current laws left behind by us to stay active. But I suspect secretly some people who are against China taken away to Chinese prison. Bye Bye British HK!
DavBlc7 7 months ago
@DavBlc7
Everyone is happy to see the end of the Empire.maybe expect for Britain.
Bye Bye British Empire,the future no longer belongs to you!
Glory belongs to China,including Hong Kong,Macau and Taiwan.
daveduvw 6 months ago
What a sad moment in history. Swap the rule of a free democracy for that of a fascist dictatorship that guns down democracy protestors.
wasteofspace1234 7 months ago
@wasteofspace1234 Fascist ??? More like almost Stalinist dictatorship!
DavBlc7 7 months ago
@wasteofspace1234 yet that dictatorship is doing even better than the USA
garymofo2 7 months ago
FUCK THE BRITISH.
Phead128 7 months ago
@Phead128
FUCK THE YANKS!
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
I am producing a documentary on Hong Kong after the 1997 handover and would like to include this footage. Where can I get it from. Thanks
1234marktime 7 months ago
Yeah look how cool our PLA is, yes kick those British pigs out, Brits are so upset LOL!!!!!!!!
fastkillmmm 8 months ago
@fastkillmmm LOL - I don't think we are upset. Just enjoy your human rights in China.
dravidwake 6 months ago
@dravidwake I don't feel bad because I'm a great supporter of the Chinese government, with the tough policies China can have a stable enviroment to develop. If any Hong Kongers don't like Chinese rule, they can move out of Hong Kong, we don't need them there.
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
It's just a pity that Chinese people who don't like Chinese communist rule aren't so free to leave, or at least to protest.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt What China needs now is a stable nation to develop. Without stability, everything is nothing, democracy needs to be step by step, it's moving but take time, we understand that and we wait.
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
I know that HK has a special status within the PRC, but even so, it goes against every principle to hand over British subjects to a dictatorship. We should have handed them over to Taiwan/ROC, which after all still claims itself to be the legitimite government of all China.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt If you handed HK to Taiwan, our Chinese PLA would cross the border right away to kick your Brits back to Britain and get HK back, your Brits do know who is the real master LOL!!!
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
Really? We have a habit of winning wars which we fight.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Really? Are you talking about in the 19th century?
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm 20th as well.
Mind you, it would be ROC troops you fought once we gave it to them. It's their problem, and we have still given British subjects to a democratic power. If you attacked the ROC on that matter it would not look very good to the rest of the world.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt The rest of the world? You mean your Western countries feeling upset? We don't care, if you did the wrong thing, we would do the right thing to teach you a lesson. If you handed HK back to Taiwan we would kick your ass but luckily for you that you knew you should hand HK back to PRC haha LOL!!!!!!
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
Considering your economy is based on the cheap crap you churn out in your sweatshops for Western Countries, if we all stopped buying Chinese, because you upset us, your economy would no longer exist.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt LOL look at your Western countries now, all of you are full of debts, you ppl have shit to do, Britain is a falling old power no one thinks it is important anymore. Face it our China is a rising superpower but your Britain just is an old dog love to hide yourself behind the US to bark and lick American ass to survive haha LOL!!!
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
At least we have democracy and freedom. You are a nasty dictatorship.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt What China needs now is stability, without stability there won't be any development, freedom only bring chaos, we believe our gov't to keep our country safe, 100% to support our gov't.
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
If China can become a stable democracy, then I will feel much happier for the people of HK.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt If you don't bark like crazy at China I will explain to you, China is a big developing country with big population, to China the first priority is stability because that's what China lacks in the past. When economic development reachs to a level, China will have democracy, same as Taiwan or S Korea didn't have democracy before the 90's. From what I heard China will have democracy within the CCP then spreading to the whole nation in the future, maybe 10-20 yrs, just be patient.
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm As far as I heard about the train crash in China - it seems that the Government is ignoring corruptions within China's business interests.
For many years people protest about corruption but Government ignored them until now. The CCP is now sacking many rails officials and expelling some CCP members so it seems, according to the BBC.
both China and Communist party still have corruptions within them. Democracy won't work in China unless CCP get rid of corruptions.
DavBlc7 6 months ago
@DavBlc7 Train crash? Just accident that's all, this is something so new for China, not easy to handle the new technology. Didn't you see the US or EU made airplanes crash almost each year around the globe? And US already lost 2 space shuttles and ppl got killed. Japanese Toyota cars can hit wall by themselves and their nuclear power plant still spreading radiation. Corruption? Why don't you go to Indonesia, Vietnam or India to see how bad their corruption is? Far worse than China LOL!!!
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm It's not whether the train crash was an accident or not. The issue is how the accident is being handled. The way that the incident was handled in China such as the supression of the media in reporting the incident is a naked display of the problem of a regime that does not respect basic human rights.
tiramisu100 5 months ago
@tiramisu100 Wrong, most of media in China report it openly that's why so many people clearly know about this matter. Yes that's true some of our officials don't respect human right but you can't blame on the whole gov't, our gov't respects human right therefore our premier Wen Jiabao gave the order to have a full investigation. Why don't you wait until after the full investigation comming out first then you start to bark?
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm You are absolutely right is pointing out that most of the media in China reported in openly and many people knew about this matter. The issue was not how it was reported by the media (an encouraging development in China) but how the government tried to control and restrict how the incident was reported (a deplorable action on the part of the government).
tiramisu100 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm You have hit a blind spot by failing to distinguish between the two and fail to see how the lack of respect in human rights on the part of the Chinese government has hindered the development of a civic society. Wen Jiabao did order a full investigation. But that has nothing to do with respects paid to human rights. It is merely the minimum expected of any government after such a tragedy.
tiramisu100 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm It is a bit far-fetched to argue like you do that Wen’s order shows that the Chinese government is respecting human rights. It is interesting to see what conclusions the Chinese government draws after its investigation. But past history has not show a promising record.
tiramisu100 5 months ago
@tiramisu100 What conclusion? Just wait and see, we already put so many corrupted officials into jail you retard, some of them ran to Western countries but funny you Western gov't keep them safe there not to allow them back to China to get the punishment they should have, see this is evidence that your Western nations try to split China into different small pieces like what happen to USSR haha because you know so well when China is powerful you Westerners have no chance to rule the world Lol.
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@tiramisu100 If the gov't controls the media then how do the media report and allow so many people to know? Maybe there are some restriction but that's understandable, the Western nations like you always try to split China into so many pieces by spreading rumors, what you want to see is China in chaos, ppl in starvation no economic development then you can continue to rule the world and bomb the countries in middle east anytime you want, you try to spread propaganda to destroy China, NO WAY!
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm Your factual errors: (1) The Western nations do not want to "split China into so many pieces by spreading rumour". A split up China will be exporting refugees. No country, out of self-interest, like to see that. (2) The Western countries do not want to "rule the world". (3) Only the US and the UK fought in the Iraq war. The rest of the Western countries did not support the war. Get your facts rights first and don't see everything from an imperialism / anti-imperialism perspective.
tiramisu100 5 months ago
@tiramisu100 Yes your Western nations always try to split China into many pieces by spreading your propaganda. You care less about refugees, what you care is your power, and yes your Western powers always want to rule the world, you support Israel to rule Palestine, you create conflict between India and Pakistan, you invade Iraq to control their oil. Haha US and UK are 2 big heads of Western world so anything about these 2 nations represent the whole Western world.
fastkillmmm 5 months ago 3
@fastkillmmm Hk belongs to china, end of.
Abdikarimelmi 5 months ago
@DavBlc7 I somewhat agree with you, democracy won't work in China unless there is no more corruption, that's why China can't have democracy right now, go to have a look of India, the biggest democratic country in the world is full of corruption and very poor, China is better than India because China isn't a democratic nation. Chinese leaders already admitted that they have corruption and they are fixing China, just be patient, democracy will come.
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
@DavBlc7 Hey you Brits stop criticizing China this and that, look how shitty your Britain now, riots, looting, killing all the shit non stop. Why don't you guys just spend sometime to fix your own economy and help your own ppl before interfering in other country's business?
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm
the uk gives over £7.8 billion in aid to countries like china india, russia, and many african countries this u will also like to know is the largest amount of aid given by any country. if uk stopped this aid, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE. so is tht good enough reason for britain to help people. or i guess u dont care about the millions who would die without it.
WasLilChrisnowbigish 5 months ago
@WasLilChrisnowbigish Don't lie you Brits don't give any money to China, yes you give money to India because the Indians lick your ass. Please just admit it, you're past empire, you don't have any power anymore, you should stop criticizing other countries and deal with your unemployment and riot ok?
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm
i dont lie brits have given over £170 million in aid to china, look it up if u dont belive me. uk employment is pretty low at 7%, and the riots have stopped.
WasLilChrisnowbigish 5 months ago
@WasLilChrisnowbigish I don't care how much Brits gave to other countries, most time of your history you went to invade other nations, colonized them and robbed their natural resource, before you left you created conflits between nations, the problem between Israel and palestine and India and Pakistan all were created by you. Hey China now is the 2nd economy in the world, our GDP is $4 trillion USD if calculated in PPP is $10 trillion USD, your £170 million isn't enough for a snack.
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm
tell tht to starving people who would of died without the aid not me. also even tho ur the 2nd largest economy, u still have some of the poorest people, tht basically says it all. secondly dont critise brits imperialism, as china was an imperial power too, also britian actually mainly colonised (and some of these lands had no natives) except for india. the problems u mentioned are true that uk has played a part, but the main prob between those nations is religion.
WasLilChrisnowbigish 5 months ago
@WasLilChrisnowbigish Don't worry we will take care of our poor people, you give money to the poor countries just for the propaganda purpose, you want ppl in the 3rd world believe in you then you can continue to steal their natural resource, but hey no one believes in you anymore that's why Britain is getting poorer and poorer, you're full of debt, your ppl have no job then go on to the street to rob, to burn hahaha the empire of great Britain is dying.
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@fastkillmmm
where in the 21st century who gives a shit about empires we have moved on from then, and if china is really a communist state why dont u start acting like one i.e. give power to factory worker, coz thts whats communism is. also show me proof tht aid workers are stealing african natural resources? also to ur last point tht is very small minority of people, also britain aint getting poorer, in the long run it doesnt matter as if USA economy falls both china and uk will be affected.
WasLilChrisnowbigish 5 months ago
@WasLilChrisnowbigish We're now market economy, the Stalin style economy doeesn't work, you can see that in Cuba, gov't can't control too much now, but we have law to protect them but we have to be in reality, our competitors are India, Indonesia and Vietnam, those countries have no worker right nothing and their labour are cheaper than China, if we control too much, investors would run to other countries. But now young ppl get good education and work much better job with better pay less work.
fastkillmmm 5 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Well, as you may well known, Taiwan has military agreement with the US meaning US military can be recalled to defend Taiwan should it be attacked. It was signed many years ago and is still active today.
Nowadays, the ROC government are still friendly with China on trade and economic matters, even travel to and from mainland China. Both have families on both sides so would be good for them on every Chinese New Year, but not for Communist party!
DavBlc7 6 months ago
@fastkillmmm
How COOL? Just a bunch of stony faced goosestepping automatons more like.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Yes I love their stoney faces and goosesteps, look so cool!!! Why? Are you upset?
fastkillmmm 6 months ago
good it happened peacefully ...it had to happen but without trouble its better!imperialists caused enough suffering in Asia.good theyve left.its better if everyone stays were they are..watever God gave them...even if its little...if theyre not satisfied then go to hell.its time to live in peace work for mankind to ensure our safety & existence until God takes our right to life 4rm us!
azandhind4eva 8 months ago
I wonder what the narrator says, if only there is closed caption in english to understand what he says
Erevnn 8 months ago
China will bring glory to this world one day!
vicvicvic135 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
it is nothing more than a invasion !!
Edwardjsa 9 months ago
The Chinese, a great bunch of lads.
HLecterPHD 9 months ago
From now on, Britain with be referred as Britshit.
letthebulletfly 9 months ago
The Great Invasion of China
Edwardjsa 10 months ago
The British caused massive social problems in China by forcing China to agree to British free trade of illegal substance known as Opium.
My Great-Grand father was a wealthy land lord in China before he got addicted to British opium, and he had to finance his addiction by selling all his land, furniture, assets, and even his children into slavery.... This obviously ruined my family's fortunes for at least 3 generations.
for all you people supporting British imperialism, you don't understand.
Phead128 10 months ago
@Phead128 That's OK, he would have lost everything and been shot by the communists later on anyway.
TheFascistDonkey 8 months ago
My only hope for the future is to prevent anything remotely resembling the Opium Wars from happening.
Pls China, for the sake of your people, be open, industrialized, and modern to the point where you can prevent Opium wars from happening once more.
Phead128 10 months ago
@Phead128 The Opium wars only happened because of the trade deficit with China which happened because China made xenophobic policies. They were happy to make money from Britain but were not happy to give anything back. A bit like what the Chinese government is doing today with currency manipulation.
TheFascistDonkey 8 months ago
@TheFascistDonkey
Opium wars happened because British wanted to preserve the de-facto legality of their highly lucrative and competitive trade in opium, partly to rectify the trade imbalances from hungry British craving of Chinese products (like today), and the lack of consumption of the culturally inferior foreign products of the West. Chinese xenophobia is combined with a complete sense of cultural superiority, if you had read the Qianlong letter to King George, you would have seen this.
Phead128 8 months ago
@TheFascistDonkey
Chinese xenophobia is combined with a complete sense of cultural superiority, so the contempt of foreign barbaric items was seen as normal, since China had everything she needed, and it was the West that wanted to buy from China.
British proved her cultural superiority by her low moral character, using addictive characteristics of a drug to rectify silver trade imbalances, and using the military to back illegal drug trade is morally inferior indeed.
Phead128 8 months ago
沒有偉大的中國共產黨的英明領導 ，就沒有我們中國香港人今天來之不易的幸福生活和強烈的民族自豪感和自信心。
k278946 10 months ago 2
@k278946
果然是五毛裝的.
chowbbkit 8 months ago
1997之後香港沒改變好多。
很多香港人看不起大陸的
但是他們很愛英國。
然而英國的白人好討厭華人。
香港人很好笑，不要臉。
6642ken 11 months ago
British = racist monkeys
krnriceboy 11 months ago
@krnriceboy Hypocrisy much?
BertrumPantyshield 11 months ago
most chinks guy youtube is chinese secret police they writting communist dictator`s propaganda over and over again its their job but noone read it so funny hahahaha
77777XYZ 11 months ago
Fuck China...We don't need you Chinese army garrison in Hong Kong. UK was taken care of HK for more than 150years. British's contribution the China government will never understand.
God Save the Queen!
I am a HongKongese btw.
wayne1314 11 months ago
@wayne1314 respect to you hongkonese,1997 was a sad year for us here in britain,not all politicians agreed with handing it back to china,but we had no choice,by law we had leased it for 200 years,that time ran out in 1997 :O(
broadband01 10 months ago
@wayne1314
FUCK YOU.
My Great Grandfather was highly addicted to opium... he had to sell everything, from his land, furniture, house assets, and even my grandfather into slavery to finance his addiction to Opium.
The HK is an entrepot for British traders with extraterritory for trading opium to rebalance the silver trade deficit with the British East India company.
You will never understand the social problems caused to China by the Opium wars. It's okay though, I can forgive you.
Phead128 10 months ago 2
W.T.H...... How did I end up on this video!
Surely the producers of this video are guilty of copyright infringement..... I'm sure the makers of Takeshi's Castle wouldn't be happy they nicked their backing soundtrack.
WeskersAlbert 1 year ago
Hong kong is territory of Cantonese,not madarin.
BAIYUE1 1 year ago
Now being December 25, 2010, it has been proved without a doubt that HK should have declared independence or formed an ally with Taiwan, and not let fall in the hands of these extremely corrupt brutal profligate bandits masked behind Communism.
lionlwat 1 year ago
@lionlwat I am afraid, Hk will not became independant or even want British to return cos there is a clause in the 1984 treaty (probably put there by Chinese government).
In it Britain promise never to take HK back and forbids Hk to became an independent nation. The PLA is there to protect Chinese sovereignty over HK. Schoolchildren there learned to love the motherland and know about China - even singing Chinese national anthem - Within 30 years more HK people will swore loyalty to China.
DavBlc7 11 months ago
I remember watching the Union Jack come down and the PRC Flag go up where I used to live years ago. I was only a kid back then and had no idea what was going on :P I do miss Hong Kong.
timtamslam444 1 year ago
完蛋了, 完蛋了, 完蛋了, 完蛋了, 完蛋了 ....... 香港仁自此完蛋了, 跟自由行隊尾撿"黃金"拉, hahahaha
biklikbala 1 year ago
yes that right your king and queen use to be former invader drug slave dealer and right now are using form of human right to manipulate the world your finance system are making the poor country just keeping pay interest ask African they will tell you i am clad Asia got rip of from your we got no hate to European american you all way well come as friend not with mind like your ancestor in 18 century about Tibet dale Lamar are cult he is not religion Buddha not ambition to have power like him.
ratanasu 1 year ago
Britain and Hong Kong still have very close links....
I remember at the time many in Hong Kong didn't want the British to leave and I know even today some in Hong Kong are still very loyal to the British and our Royal Family.
That is why the United Kingdom met the Chinese government and held years of talks about making sure Hong Kong would never be communist but would be a free country who could rule itself.
Everything worked out well.
Long Live Hong Kong and the United Kingdom!
51wins 1 year ago
@51wins not my family my grandfather hate the british to the day he passed away have you ever see your country had done to the world.
ratanasu 1 year ago
@ratanasu
I accept that some people didn't like the British Empire, many even within the UK itself didn't like the Empire.
However the majority of people did like it. Why? Because for most people it benefited them. African nations under British control had jobs, had food, there was no civil wars or conflicts because the British army was there to keep the peace and defend the nations. Elsewhere in Africa nations were tearing themselves apart.
51wins 1 year ago
@51wins one i like the british they will listen and back down unlike the US my way or highway.
ratanasu 1 year ago 2
@ratanasu
haha something we agree on, I agree that the British will listen to others. Unlike the USA we aren't afraid to back down on an issue if it's in the best interests of everyone. The USA however never back down because they think if they back down then the world will see them as being week.
Whatever the British Empire was, its gone now. British people care more about being friends with countries like China, having strong trade agreements and working together to help the world.
51wins 1 year ago 16
@51wins followup of ur post even'f its 8months.If u say ''Whatever the British Empire was, its gone now. British people care more about being friends with countries ''' then u cant say they gave democracy/railways etc.its not a gift they gave us.they couldnt take the railways wid them can they? they dint leave few batallions 2 overc transfer of power 2 prevent riots!they stayed 4 ages but hurry 2 leave when time came,eh?.ur ancestors made blunders.forgive them as we have!not appease their guilt!
azandhind4eva 8 months ago
@azandhind4eva
I agree the Empire is gone, but most former members are part of the Commonwealth which is fantastic as we can be friends and share our history together through trade, investment and other events like sports in the Commonwealth games.
All the success to Hong Kong in the future.
51wins 8 months ago
@51wins yes if we keep it that way we all agree...i ought to remind u that the SNP in UK is trying to bring a freedom refrendum for scotland within 5 yrs...ppl voted them into govt on that promise...sorry if it worries u but this is all the karma falling on ur nation...i like the british ppl today as they are more informed now & they can be cheated if the media lies to them or blair,but they are mostly good. tc i wish peace to ur ppl too & no hard feelings,eh....
azandhind4eva 8 months ago
@azandhind4eva
Scotland doesn't worry the UK.
The UK is made up of 4 countries, each of those countries can leave the Union any time they want. Each of the 4 countries has their own governments already which make their own ways.
However I don't think Scotland will leave the UK, SNP are the biggest party that around 60/70% of Scottish people don't want independence.
The SNP became the biggest party because the Labour Party were hated by Scottish voters.
51wins 8 months ago
@51wins
I agree no hard feelings, there never was any.
All i want for Britain in this world is to be a proud nation, a strong nation a friendly nation to everyone.
We have played a massive part in the modern worlds history and I want that to continue.
Take care!
51wins 8 months ago
@51wins majority of the people? you must be fucking stupid LOL the only people that liked them were the newer generations who had no clue they invaded. these new generations do not even make up a signification portion of the hk population.
Isreal4realz 1 year ago
@ratanasu
Also, cities like Singapore, Hong Kong were made economic centres of Asia because of the British Empire. If Hong Kong had of been just another city in China they would never be as successful as they are today.
India has its rail-roads and we give them democracy and stable government.
Australia, New Zealand and Canada are both rich and successful because of the British Empire.
Even the USA was born from the British Empire, it was built and governed by British descendants.
51wins 1 year ago 15
@51wins as a chinese myself =p you do speak sense my friend
aucklandazn 10 months ago
@51wins These places would not need Britain so much had British Empire not thoroughly destroyed the local infrastructures. Do you forget that China was the center of economic trade for most of human history? Its fall came when it was struck during the opium war.
Vaioleto 9 months ago
@51wins The USA were not really governed by British descants cos there were also German, Irish, Swedish, Russian, Danish and Dutch descendants who made up the American people. They don't see themselves as British subject cos they weren't come from Britain itself but from almost all over Europe.
French controls Louisiana, Spanish controls most of the area in the west beyond British and French borders.
Florida is mixed Spanish, French and British before finally taken by Spanish.
DavBlc7 8 months ago 2
@DavBlc7
Your right there were all other kinds of descendants but before Independence their numbers were very small in the 13 colonies the majority were British and it was Britain who controlled the government, made the rules and the first people were British.
It was the 13 colonies (British/Americans) who then started to grow and took or bought Louisiana and the West from the French/Spanish.
51wins 8 months ago
@51wins i have 2 disagree.ur argument is half truth & incomplete.1>British built railways 2 feed its interests 2 build its cities.4 mining & 4 grains transport.bcz Indians travelled 2 class not allowd in 1st.Even educated upper class Indians were thrown out of coaches which proves they dint build raiways for welfare of Indian ppl.2>British dint give democracy.Indian freedom fighters who fought 4 freedom/basic rights got us democracy 4rm autocratic brit Raj.Let us not see things at face value!!
azandhind4eva 8 months ago
@51wins many ppl died fightin 4freedom 2get democraticRights 4rm monarchy.Britain might have been democratic but dint c asians fit enough 2 get same rights.illitrates dint fight 4 our independence.Great leaders like Mahatma Gandhi.Educated men like Nehru who new more than any of us about democracy & how it shud function fought for it.If brits gave democracy why did we have 2fight them?this is how they want 2be seen2 save face.One island controlled half of asia.now they have one island 2 live in!
azandhind4eva 8 months ago
@51wins all of the above can be considered as blessing in disguise.they dint gift it to asians .we aquired this knowledged form them.democracy isnt knew to indian or asia.its mentioned in ancient texts & scriptures.harappa mohenjodaro & indus valley civiliztions had a democratic way of governance.it is not neww to us.we remmbered wat we deserve after yrs of autocratic imperialist rule.many millions died all over asia.u can try seeing bengal famine also known as bengal massacre!
azandhind4eva 8 months ago
@51wins
Unlike other Chinese cities, we were given peace which other cities lacked. China was developing into a peaceful democracy in 1930s until the Japanese invaded and which the Communist Chinese took advantaged off. HK rapidly rose after 1949 from the influx of ROC refugees retreating to HK that allowed Hk's economic boom due to the many talents in 1950s.
Even Taiwan now, ROC were managed to make it boom despite much later. What China need is peace and those dam commies to perish.
Balencian 3 months ago
@ratanasu You're from China. Didn't you once allow a man (Mao) to help starve millions of your own people? Don't you currently let yourselves be ruled by a rather unfreindly government which executes people for rather minor crimes? Don't you see what you have done to Tibet?
theredraven 1 year ago
可惜鄧老沒看見，希望他在天之靈能夠安慰！
tmactmac19890812 1 year ago
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tmactmac19890812 1 year ago
not only that, who do you think was killing indians before america was an independent nation?!?!? whats with the double standards on that anyways? i always hear how bad america was because of our treatment of the natives, well the British and France did the same damn thing, sheesh. isnt history fun, you can find out the most hated nation on the earth today is only following in UK footsteps. i dont mean any disrespect by that but come on, stop the double standards almost all nations are guilty.
Hperman09 1 year ago
Hongkong People are to run Hongkong.
77257441 1 year ago
It was certainly wrong for Britain to invade China in the 19th century - imperialism is sickening. But the Brits did a wonderful job with Hong Kong, and it saddens me that they handed over this thriving FREE metropolis to an authoritarian state. Even that state realizes how awkward this is, in that they have given more rights to Hong Kong citizens than to other Chinese citizens. Can't wait till the Chinese leaders are dragged into the streets one day.....
nojyt 1 year ago
@nojyt If the British did such a wonder job, then why did their other colony goes to ship. The British did nothing, Chinese people did everything. All the British did was allow people to trade. Ever heard of sanctions. The British just collect money. So to give all the accomplishment of HK to British is really disgusting.
shootthedevil 1 year ago
@shootthedevil I understand your objection to colonialism; I share it. But from the one-sided comments you have posted, you (and AndyHwang, below) strike me as a nationalist. You would be first in line to excuse the worst kinds of atrocities if it meant promoting your own particular ideology.
I really can't discuss anything with someone like that.
nojyt 1 year ago
hong kong 's broken time!!
Edwardjsa 1 year ago
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twjp1000 1 year ago
Opium Wars :)
NottinghamForest22 1 year ago
people gotta remember if it wasn't for british rule hong kong will still be a small fishing village
jasperc121 1 year ago
@jasperc121 haha..I highly doubt it. The area of Canton has always been a major trading port of china. Developing the hinterland around canton(Hong Kong, macau..) was only a matter of time. But of course, HK wouldn't be a major finanical centre.
AndrijaLambert 1 year ago
@jasperc121
Your taling are nonsense. HK developed by Chinese not British rule . OK.
Are Africa countries under British rule developed ? No. So your talking are nonsense.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 hong kong became a financial center because of british rule. Back then China was in a isolated state not doing trade with other countries.
BTW african countries under british rule didn't become develop because of their location. hong kong's location is perfect for trade and if there is trade there is opportunity for people.
jasperc121 1 year ago
@jasperc121
Some british african country have perfect location for trade but not developed. so your talking are nonsense.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
Long Live Hong Kong ! I am a Chinese Canadian !
BobbytheCanadiankid 1 year ago
中国人民万岁!!
foureyestone 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
Fuck Brits and Fuck Hong Kong.
China Rules.
Nickdapantydroppa 1 year ago
UK lost war to China in 1997 because China got back HK from UK in 1997. China won over UK because China got back HK from UK. All chinese underestimate British because of your 19th century whore, slut, hypocrite opium cartel British Queen Victoria , Lord Palmerston (the British Foreign Secretary in opium war ), Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China in opium war ) , East India company.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009
Hypocrite ,slut ,whore , daughter of bitch , stupid British Queen Victoria opium cartel , Lord Palmerston(the British Foreign Secretary ), Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China ) , East India company are Hypocrite stupid opium cartels during 19th century. Shame on you hypocrite stupid British Queen , politicians , East India company and Merchants
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 Does current UK government condemn these hypocrite , stupid , whore, slut 19th century British Queen Victoria opium cartel government , hypocrite stupid Lord Palmerston (the British Foreign Secretary), opium cartel Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China ) ? Current UK students hate 19th century these stupid hypocrite British opium cartels?
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009
All Chinese must destroy Statues of Opium War criminals Queen Victoria, Lord Palmerston (the British Foreign Secretary ), and Charles Elliot (British Chief Superintendent of Trade in China ) in Hong Kong and UK.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 There was no war in 1997.The British bought Hong Kong from Qing-China for 100 years.
barricader6 1 year ago
@barricader6
You don't understand relattion between Politics and Military. World Military Guru said " You have biggest military success if you get back your territory from your enemy without firing a bullet". Ok. China got back HK from British UK without firing a bullet. UK fear China nuke power. So they gave back HK to China. China will occupy china by military force and nuke UK if UK don't give back HK to China.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 uk has more nukes than china...
Ccaven 1 year ago
@Ccaven
China has 5000 nukes . China produced 5000 nukes like China produced cars . But China kept it top secret .
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@barricader6
UK don't fear Argentina so UK don't give back Falkland island to Argentina in 1982.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 Andy, nationalists like you seldom understand history. Two things about the Falklands: 1) they were never part of Argentina, but only (occasionally) part of the Spanish empire; 2) every single person living on the islands self-identified as British, not Argentinian. THAT is why the British fought for them. Hong Kong was an entirely different scenario. Comparisons like yours are meaningless.
nojyt 1 year ago
@nojyt
UK British fear China nukes so UK don't dare to fight with China. China is not 19 century China. OK. UK British are hypocrite. UK British don't give back HK to China if China is weak country. But China is stonger than Argentina and UK so UK fear and gave back HK to China.China will occupy by force and nuke UK if UK don't give back HK to China.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 So now that you see how silly your Falklands comparison is, you have ignored it and moved on. Typical. You're right; though, that China is not like in the 19th century. But neither is Britain. Britain has consistently moved away from overt imperialism for decades now. It is more interested in getting wealth from trade with China than from conquest. Don't kid yourself about nuclear weapons - Britain has them too. If one country used them, the other country would be annihilated.
nojyt 1 year ago
It's not " Liberation of Hong Kong", it's "INVASION OF HONG KONG"!!
HKUK94 2 years ago
真的吗？
香港是中国，不是英国。
香港人是中国人。
wahjii08 2 years ago
@HKUK94 LOL...HK was a white man's bitch, they need to be punish. If you are white, then you Britshit need to go fuck yourself.
shootthedevil 1 year ago
How about you , you communist slave??
HKUK94 1 year ago 2
@HKUK94 What are you a Britshit or a chink?
shootthedevil 1 year ago
Sorry not either of those, would you like to try again??
HKUK94 1 year ago
getting back what was once theirs is called "invasion"? dumbass
hcn9 1 year ago
It was the Qin dynasty's land, not the PRC. The PRC never touched HK before 1997.dumbass.
HKUK94 1 year ago
@HKUK94
You stupid.
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@HKUK94
Your taliking are nonsense. 99 % HK chinese welcome China .
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
@andyhwang2009 I don't think that's true.
HKUK94 1 year ago
LOL. Sensed some sarcasm at 1:58
"你们可以下岗！" (You can step down!)
我们上岗！ (We will step up!)
祝你们一路平安！ (Have a safe journey!)
By the way, the PRC commander didnt looked very friendly =(
ishiishun 2 years ago 2
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@ishiishun
No sarcasm at all. It was very dignified and correct military protocol.
你们可以下岗 (You are relieved)
我们上岗 (We will take post)
L42A1 7 months ago
Homosexual chinese propaganda !
spyknife 2 years ago
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世界中で犯罪を繰り広げる最劣等生物支那人、一刻も早く一匹残らず地上から殲滅されるべきである。
fengels12345 2 years ago
to be fair, little frenchies liked to fancy themselves as the dominant power in the continent, that is until they realized they had a huge neighbor in the east. the idea that Germany was 100% at fault in WW2 is also part true, part false at least in a sense, by causation Germany became aggressive as a result of the Versailles Treaty; before that Germany was again a victim of the cocksucking frenchies who marched into Rhineland and raped the German women under the banner of "democracy"!
1greatdude 2 years ago
brits like to fanny themselves as the 'master race', second to none and all that crap, but in fact they are the SCUMS on this earth. Simply put, the brits ain't nothing but the parasites that swim around in human excrement. self-serving nonsense speaks for the brits' own general tendency. the idea that the brits tried to get the jerries a better deal in the Treaty of Versailles is nothing but a heap of trash. brits wanted gerries bankrupt so one less competitor in global colonization!
1greatdude 2 years ago
So Mr. Smarty Pants, your still generlising on National stereotypes based on your narrow beliefs? nice to see :)
Mattythewelshman 2 years ago
my pants are Made in China, dude. oh, correction, mr. "Welshman". good to see ya here. btw, ahh, how's that 'diversity' thing going on in your england?? have the dick-sucking brits stopped claiming Welsh, Scotland, Ireland, etc. as part of the 'united' 'kingdom' and all that shit? no? oh okay. maybe folks in UK 'are just hard working volk[s] who just want to get on in life and have no interest in causing anyone else grief '? maybe. who knows. who gives a flying fuck, right? is uk anyway. ja?
1greatdude 2 years ago
I think I will visit spain instead of the brits...
enchilada01 2 years ago
who are the jerries?
enchilada01 2 years ago
jerries are the germans just like tommies are the crooked-teeth brits.
1greatdude 2 years ago
hahahahha that's a good one, tommies!
enchilada01 2 years ago
Britshit are also one of the most ugliest people on earth. Look at their bald prince and ugly inbred queen.
shootthedevil 1 year ago
ROFL your the one to talk with a country that blames ppl and getting into a war and electing a president like Bush that consectively lied for 8 yrs, and yet morons like you still believe him.
yuna238 1 year ago
Yeah we are :)
Mattythewelshman 1 year ago
Mmmmmmm smell that propaganda the people of Hong Kong have my everlasting sympathy
888Tomac888 2 years ago
Your insight that the PLA is for 'defense only' might be questioned by the Tibetan people.
eveoradam 2 years ago
and your "insight" that the Tibetans are 'victims only' might be questioned by the earlier Dalai Lamas themselves, as they were the ones who BEGGED to be included in the Chinese sovereignty before Mao Tse-tung was even a commie chairman himself !
what's more, have you ever asked yourself that the "Royal Canuck Armed Forces" are for 'defense only' might be questioned by the French Canadian people in the Quebec region of Canada?
tsk-tsk!
1greatdude 2 years ago
All this hostility simply because someone voiced their own personal view on something that being "tropicalbuddhabeads". Folks it's Freedom of Speech. No harm in giving your own point of view but really you should learn to respect other views even if you disagree. But I do feel the need after reading some of the above, before China plays the victim card again, how about those Tibetan monks that are still missing? like the Brits did you crush those wanting freedom with brute force? Ironic.
Mattythewelshman 2 years ago
Ironic, you said? To answer your question, you need to ask yourself: Were the cocksucking parasitic brits nice to you Welsh? Or for that matter to the Scots? To the Irish? To the American Colonists whom the brits brutally crushed? Or to the Indians? Or to the Germans with the Treaty of Versailles? Learn some history, stuff some real knowledge in your guts before you fancy your veiled bigotry in the form of a grandstanding, mister "welshman".
1greatdude 2 years ago
I don't know what about you, but personally I have yet seen a group of clergymen, in modern days at least, be they Catholics, Protestants, American Methodists, Lutherans, Penecostals, etc. etc., gang up on innocent, unarmed human beings and beat the daylight out of them, or in some cases, outright maimed or murdered them? However, I saw on news footages those same criminal acts perpetrated and commited by the cloak-wearing Tibetan monks. THAT is not ironic. THAT is criminal acts, mister.
1greatdude 2 years ago
Yeah in the past the Welsh got a ruff deal, but the past is the past, is it an excuse to commit crimes and use it as a means of justification I think not! Also the UK now days is ran by the Scots. As for the Yanks, if you read the real facts they had better healthcare, education, were generally richer, healthier and all that jazz than anyone in the UK other than the ruling Elite. The yanks just wanted more, the taxes were only to make up for the fact we had just stopped the French taking over!
Mattythewelshman 2 years ago
As for the treaty of Versailles it was the Brits who tried to get the Germans a better deal, the French wanted the worst. Anyhow Britain did some bad stuff, I'm not slightly ashamed to admit it, it made us the better Country we are today a mutli cultural tolerant society. A free Democractic society, where you can say mostly what you like about the UK without vanishing. But anyway question to you, do you think it is then right for China to invade another Country and oppress its people?
Mattythewelshman 2 years ago
So now the Europeans are admiting their wrongs in a sorrowfull manner but claim that surging powers cannot invade someone else? England left Hong Kong with its tail between its legs otherwise the Chinese would have wiped their ass out in to the Ocean, Brits are a sorry race
enchilada01 2 years ago
We're not a sorry race, we're a race that has learnt that Empires/Racism etc is wrong. Instead Britain is the most tolerant multi cultural society anywhere in the World.
Mattythewelshman 2 years ago
Sure, all I hear from people that go to your country is that you guys are a bunch of punks, so much for being tolerant, plus whenever you see brits, they act like their shit dont smell, that's anywhere, U.S. latinamerica, Asia etc.
enchilada01 2 years ago
Well tell you what, do something smart instead of listening to hear say! go to the UK and see it for yourself and then feel free to comment. As frankly I know some right dick heads over here, same as in every country, yanks, aussies, french or kenyan every country has its wankers! but most people in the UK are just hard working folk who just want to get on in life and have no interest in causing anyone else grief.
Mattythewelshman 2 years ago
--> mr. 'welshman'
dude is hearsay ain't 'hear say'. btw, unlike the other gent, 'enchilada', I been to England and seen first hand what ur 'most tolerant multi-cultural society' was about. 1st, your weather SUCKS. no wonder you - well, generically speaking, welsh(wo)men included in 'brits' I suppose - brits r so unhappy, dry humored and downright hateful bunch of jackasses. road rages were everywhere; I witnessed myself. 'bloody wanker!'
'u bloody bastard!' they screamed @ each other. -->
1greatdude 2 years ago
@1greatdude
well your the one to talk. Road rage, ill humor, and stupid egoism of patriotism also runs all over the US. Guess you dont even know the state of Alabama or Texas that constantly have rednecks pointing guns and shooting at random things.
You think british are bad?? Worse goes for the American and their moronic fatness and stupidity of starting wars.
yuna238 1 year ago
oh, and then, the food. if u can call it 'food': watered down 'scrambled eggs' (yuk!), so-called 'english bangers' - english style 'sausages' which were neither sausages nor bratwursts in edible sense: dry, flat, unhappy, tasteless (sounds familiar?).., then the 'bread' made out of.. saw dust? the Fanta orange drink and a milk somewhere between non-fat and 0.00005% real milk! oh that was impressive. real treat to human tummies. shall I go on, mr. Matty-o-Welshman? I can. I really can.
1greatdude 2 years ago