Gay Marriage OKd by California Court: America loses to China

[UnrestfulDeath]

OMG the solution to fix the economy lets take gays rights away so they will magically turn straight and make more kids they cant feed thats just pure genious right there!!!

[202rickh]

By your logic, an elderly couple should not be allowed to marry either, since they also will produce no children. Honestly, this stuff is just ignorant.

[202rickh]

The fact that a majority of people voted to ban gay marriage is irrelevant. To pose this proposition demonstrates a lack of understanding of fundamental US constitutional rights. Her's why: If 99.9% of a population voted to deny me the right to, say, vote, it wouldn't make it legal. You can't vote my rights away. Rights are protected in our constitution in large part TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY.

[specialsenna]

wow ur ugly is that intentional or are you able to be naturally be this ugly..

hell the eyes are like freakish,

ugylbastard with ugly views the ones i managed to understand!

[specialsenna]

@Mog087 Gays are responsible for credit crunch?????

What a freaking moron this creature is! All religious nuts are just nuts!

[rocky906]

"gay marriage means less birth rates" Gay people are not going to be fucking the oppisite sex because gay marriage is illegal, sounds to me like you are simply trying to justify your prejudice.

[bhavvv]

What a complete fucking stupid dumbass!

[Imran2879]

I'm sorry but I find you to be utterly stupid. Listening to you just pisses me off. What you need to understand is there needs to be separation of Church and State. You are entitled to your belief ( regardless of how stupid) but imposing it on others is wrong. Keep your damn religion views out of politics.

[biry0501]

Ok... so when same-sex marriage is legal, people will magically become gay? I wonder why the number of heterosexuals hasn't declined in the Netherlands and Belgium. Do some more research...

[AndhraPolitical]

well said :)

lol

[thingspointless]

gang-raped by a mob... was that moral? Also, Deuteronomy commands Yahweh's followers to slaughter the Amelekites (terrorism!), not intermarry with other people (racism!), and to stone to death lazy sons or anyone who worships an "idol" (brutal theocratic fascism). This is what you base your beliefs on? If anything should be outlawed, it should be religion, but we thinkers recognize the rights of you "sheep" to exist and live in peace. You should stop being an idiot and allow equal rights.

[thingspointless]

You're a dim bulb my friend. Do you really think the world will collapse if we don't keep pumping out babies and overpopulating the earth? What makes you think allowing gay people to marry will turn everyone else gay anyway? Also, "judicial activism"??? It is the constitutional role of the courts to overturn laws that violate the 14th amendment right to equal treatment under the law! Are you basing your "morals" on Sodom and Gomorrah? What about when Lot offered his virgin daughters to be...

[grizzlyadams]

Legalization of gay marriage isn't going to increase the gay population. people are gay whether marriage is legal or not. and for the record if a gay couple gets married and wants to start a family they will choose to adopt or another form of getting a baby. so this bullshit about california having no future... this isn't your matter. population wont decrease.

[BlackWolf4830]

"If gays get married, the world would turn gay"

Whenever someone says this, ask them, "So, you'd turn gay?"

[JayTee817189]

Thank you,Geronami, for presenting the practical truth as well as Biblical! We American Christians need to hear the truth. Most of us who claim Jesus Christ have stopped our own ears to His Word. We have chosen preachers who only love this life and no longer fear God, but men. All the while persecution increases. Some of us are beginning to wake up as we see America perishing. It is scary to see, but Jesus warned us so there is courage. Please keep us in your prayers. God bless you!

[Kohakuu]

My mother works for a church and has worked for it for 9 years. I am a lesbian Christian and yet I don't agree with you at all. Did God not tell us to love each other no matter our differences? Also, with what you are saying, it makes it sound like America is going through the gay apocalypse.

[JayTee817189]

Gay apocalypse? No. What I am referring to is 2 Thess. 2:9-12. Jesus didn't lower God's standard of right and wrong for the church. He calls us to abide in Him. John 15, 1 John 2:3-6 If we say we love God but live by our own standards, we live a lie. If someone escapes the danger you are headed for, but pats you on the back and says keep going, is it love? Serving the church doesn't lead to life either. That just makes one busy(i've tried it) Matt.7:21-23.We must KNOW Him on His terms.

[JayTee817189]

Loving you doesn't mean lie to you. I can't change God's standard of truth. Jesus came to save us from sin which is the cause of our dying. We can't define sin because we are born in it. We are comfortable with what we know and love. We have to watch out for deception because it finds it's home in our hearts. Yes, God is love, but Holy as well. No sin can survive in his presence. God defines sin and loves us by telling us what it is and provides an escape. I left a comment for you above.

[hunk2007]

I thing you lack common sense. Don't comment on issues that don't have any effect on your life. Tr to fix your country's problem before you spout your venom on issues in america.

[nicksum29]

And that is why the words "Christian" and "evangelist" are a contradiction in terms. Funny how Christians are the last to understand human rights. They don't seem to be able to comprehend how the voice of the masses is usually at odds with the voice of any oppressed minority. Thank the Lord the judges of America refused to allow the public to vote on issues such as the racial laws and gender discrimination. Sad that this guy, and Indian, is ignorant of his own country's struggle.

[websoap]

Shut up Black Shrek!

[kpx0000001]

Listen here bud the population in America, is so not in danger. people's having babies left and right, and before you ever criticize something live there first.

[earthfell]

Yeah, that *one* yes vote was given by the most conservative judge on the court. Anyway, the supreme courts job is to decide whether or not laws are constitutional. IT IS THEIR FUCKING JOB TO CORRECT BAD LAWS. If it wasn't for "activist" judges your ass would be a second class citizen, because YOU AREN'T WHITE. If it wasn't for "activist judges" YOU'RE children would not be able to go to white schools, or marry people outside their race. You worthless idiot. You don't know jack shit.

[Kohakuu]

Well Said!

[jvanhauw]

Lastly, you mentioned that the few (i.e. the supreme court judges) are deciding for the many in an elitist way. Well, without them, blacks would have not been allowed to marry whites (90% of the population was against it at that time)....I rest my case.

[jvanhauw]

your reasoning is flawed. You are assuming that gay marriage will lead to a decrease in kids and therefore hurt the economy. The fact is that gay and straight people are born from straight couples. Gay marriages will NOT somehow lead to straight people turning gay and no longer producing kids. Gays have been in relationships until this ruling. The only thing that changes is that they have now basic rights.

[jvanhauw]

And before you reply on the fact that you don't want to pay for the social and tax benefits of gay people; FYI, gays have been paying for YOUR social and tax benefits for a long time and not getting anything in return. Also, comparing gay marriages to marrying a dog is laughable. Are you comparing gays to animals now? I think we all remember a person who compared Jews to animals (hint: think Germany...Hitler).

[craptokker]

John and Mary, James and Jessica all adopted children who needed parents.

China and India have the opposite problem... they suffer from overpopulation... a bigger problem for the world today. Indians and Chinese therefore flock to the Western world.

Underpopulation is mainly due to the emancipation of women, it's stupid to bring up homosexual marriage as the main factor!

What two consenting parties do is their business. This is why children and animals aren't exactly point to make.

[Yunliner]

Jesse Ventura: "Love is bigger than government."

Also I've noticed that you blink much whenever your nervous of the topic.

[queenofsuccubi]

Justify the statement "its a very democratic thing to allow gay marriage." Please justify this without opinion and dogma. Homosexuality in itself has nothing to do with democracy any more then pedophilia does. So by your argument its very democratic to allow pedophiles to marry children? Every society needs limits otherwise it collapes under the weight of its own stupidity.

[queenofsuccubi]

What is funny here is how automatically you assume I am camparing homosexuality to pedophilia. Read again. I am not. But in your own mind you automatically kneejerk reaction like a typical brainwashed activist incapable of thinking outside your little playbook. What I said is if we allow one group frowned on by society we should by fairness allow ALL groups frowned on by society. Thanks for helping me win this argument by showing how you lack rational thinking skills.

[queenofsuccubi]

Two adults wanting to spend their life together is totally fine in a democracy. Where it crosses the line is when the said pair FORCES their point of view down the throats of others. If you wanna be a fag be a fag, I dont care. But do NOT force me to accept it as I never will.  That is what democracy is about. Having freedom for all points of view. But the fags had freedom unless it is their own and no one elses.

[queenofsuccubi]

It is not my fault you look at a piece of random art I selected for its vampiric themes and turn it into something sexual. I look at the same pic and see nothing sexual in it. Probably because I am not a lesbian. I see a vampire about to feed on a kine. Nothing more. Dont put your perversions onto me.

[queenofsuccubi]

pfft you think you are so clever when you are not. Let's say I was in the closet, let's just say. That would still mean I am consistant to my stance that gays should not force their inclinations down the throats of others. What a person does in their bedroom is their own business... IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS and if its kept private NEED NEVER BE DEFENDED. See? See how that works. I still win as I prove the correctness of my stance by actions AND words and not propaganda

[queenofsuccubi]

Ad hominem. Shows your argument is weak or just nonexistant. You know what I meant in my comments but you choose not to think about it. That's your right. But do not call someone else retarded because of your own short comings and lack of critical thinking skills. Ad Hominem. You lose as does your argument because it cannot stand without insults. Think and talk rationally please. Until then I bid you ado, I have no time for kids online.

[pubuman]

What the... what do you mean it has nothing to do with politics? Of course it does. If, by being gay your rights are restricted then of course its political. For example if you want to legally get married as a gay couple and you cant then that is a restriction on the rights of two people. It's not them forcing anything down anyones throat. Legal marriage is a right for ALL citizens. And in a society that is about equal rights to all people this is a political issue.

[queenofsuccubi]

You are barking up the wrong tree. Marriage is a right now is it? Well sorry pal, but marriage is a religious institution throughout human history. two people can live together and have sex WITHOUT marriage. They have the right to do that. Show me where in the US constitution the right to marry is even mentioned for men and women? It is not. You all are clouded by the buzz words and incapable of thinking rationally. You are all just as bad as the Christians. Fanatics, the lot of you.

[pubuman]

Um... no, a church can deny the marriage in a religious sense. But marriage is also a legal institution. A married couple has rights that are different from two people that just live together. Once you take away the right to legal marriage you take away those rights afforded to a legally married couple. The religious institution of marriage isn't involved here. At least that's not what I meant.

[craptokker]

lol...

[queenofsuccubi]

Rightcleric you are barking up the wrong tree. Please look at the census of all developed nations and understand that they are all actually shrinking in population because most have one child.. 2 people 1 child, shrinking population. No one was even talking about marx or any of that bullshit. Its just pure numbers and facts. Developed nations do not breed like rabits thats why they are developed. Look at the census figures for developed nations. OMG FACTS HURT.

[invisiblepsycho]

This is really idiotic! Seriously? How will this lower birth rates? Gay people don't say "Oh well since I can't marry another man I may as well go sleep with someone of the opposite sex so we can procreate and beat China in population." Seriously there are 1 billion Chinese, there don't need to be 1 billion Americans until we can handle it. YOU LOGIC is FLAWED!

[queenofsuccubi]

Of course America looses out to China in birth rates. Do you not know that DEVELOPED NATIONS always have a lower birthrate then undeveloped ones. Less population means less time trying to feed everyone and more time developing. If you think the path of the future is breeding, you are destined to fall into the 3rd world. Learn History please.

[atheistjinn]

Geronami is a homophobic bigot! It is a good think that America is freed from religious intolerance from Christians. Face it geronami Christianity is dying and it will be eliminated from America just like it has been from Europe. People have freed their minds from religious oppression.

[atheistjinn]

In fact Skeptical free-thinkers IQ averages clearly exceed their avid religious counterparts. Fortunately, rational 21st century knowledge can cure this predominantly generationally imposed childhood indoctrinated primitive synthetic reality of non-secular extreme religious blind-faith!

[queenofsuccubi]

And we will replace it with Islam? Watch the news much? Thought not.

[sthomas68]

You can actually still be considered intelligent by secularists if you are religious, just as long as you aren't practicing Christianity. Everything geared towards a society being "anti religious" is really a cover for a society being "anti Christian." If you remove GOD, all of society will be good again. But, tsk tsk, what to do about all those other religions? (I wonder how Christianity will be removed.) Lobotomies, anyone?

[param3333]

Good points. This is going for so long because good people are silent. This is a simple problem and became so serious. This is not freedom. I think we have to be very blunt to explain otherwise this will go on. The male organ is erect only because it has to insert the semen with sperm deep in the vagina for making kids.Otherwise it cannot be done. Biology!Now who wants to insert into some ones rectum and how can the sperm meet the ovum? For rht sperm to meet feces instead of the ovum?Nonsense

[param3333]

Now this is the ideal and natural thing. Human behaviour has to have ideals to aim for but ideals are not always attained but ideals have to be respected and adored. People who follow ideals have to be honored and supported. Those who cannot follow these ideals should express their inability and try if possible. These weak people i.e, gay people should not be punished definitely but this is a weakness or illness like alcohol. Saying it is inborn(mostly not) is not an explanation at all.

[param3333]

Criminal tendencies, alcohol may be inborn too.Still it is a great weakness.However society got this perverted.I think judges interpret laws, dont make them. Politicians have to make proper laws if they have guts and wisdom (they dont).Gay is definitely unnnatural and a perversion.Now why use the term marriage.This is wrong. If two perverts want to be together,they can and give their pension to each other etc.I strongly disagree this is a marriage.Marriage is only between a man and a woman.

[param3333]

Period. Two men coming together perverted it is can call themselves Garried not married!Same with Larriage (lesbians).Stop using words and confusing people. Same sex union can be sarriage! Now does freedom mean anything like sisters geting together with parents, neighbours, grandparents and brothers all in an orgy? No. That is not correct. Only the union of man and woman in the sight of God pledging to uphold ideals is marriage. Thanks

[goldiependle]

If a gay guy wasn't sexually stimulated by another male, why would they bother?? Your comment makes no sense.

[AdudefromNY]

less birthrate is kind of good, remember our resources are being depleted and the planets carrying capacity is being tested. : (

[JetsMets4Life]

If they don't marry, than they still won't produce kids. The only way a gay man/woman will produce a kid is if they marry someone of a different sex.

[bgjohnla]

The judges followed the law in the constitution. The constitution overrides ALL laws made by the people or the legislators. It's that simple. Learn about what you are talking about before you speak. It makes you look like a moron when you don't.

[Will0Wisp]

great video

[Thsiscool]

In almost every religion, it states that being Gay/lesbian is bad....Even Science says 2 organisms will make the offspring....Being Gay/Lesbian is like being half of a human..... ... ...The U.S. shouldn't call itself a "Christian" country anymore....they should remove the "In God We Trust" in our money....mmmmmm.....Its not moral......

[chamula1968]

get in you cab and drive back to india!

[SouthernCOBoy]

Don't we have enough children already who are homeless? Can't be feed? Can't be clothed! We have plenty of heteros to make plenty of babies! Gays are only 10% of ANY population, how is this a dangerous situation? Your examples do not work!

[Jakemmx]

"Gay marriage means less birth rates"

I really doubt that anyone would choose to be attracted to the the same sex (if that choice was even possible) just because they can now have the stamp of 'marriage' and the few rights that come with it ....... We have less children now because they are EXTREMELY expensive, and hinder the career obsessions many people have in developed countries. They are not mutually exclusive, but I don't think your argument has any direct correlation.

[Jakemmx]

Plenty of homosexuals have children anyway ... and more want to settle down and have a family now than ever before.

[n701204x]

One of the first elections I could ever vote in here in California had the gay marriage ban on the ballot and I voted for it and it passed.

And it is discouraging to say the least knowing that yesterday my vote was tossed aside by a few Left wing judges in San Francisco who decided my opinion and my vote doesn't really matter because they know what is best for our people.

DRIVES ME NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jvanhauw]

drives you nuts? same thing when it drove 90% of the people nuts when they ruled blacks should be allowed to marry white? Same thing when they decided women should be allowed to vote. Their job is to uphold the constitution, not a religion. The constitution was set in place to give everyone the same rights (politically); especially minorities.

[n701204x]

No where in the California state constitution does it state anyone can marry anyone else. The justices did not uphold the constitution they simply legislated what they wanted which is not their job!

Even though I am against it If the American people want gay marriage and vote on it than so be it but it is not for appointed appointed judges to decide that we should radically change the family structure that has been in place for 3,000 years in every culture around the world.

[goldiependle]

Radically change the family structure?? Unless your own "family structure" is disturbed I don't see the problem. Just admit it...you just don't like the idea of two guys/girls going at it. It's okay, really.

[n701204x]

I could really care less of what people do behind closed doors but I don't think the people of the US should be forced to recognize same sex couples marrige by a few judges.

Anytime gay marrige is put to vote the people reject it, even in liberal states such as the recent ammendments in California(where I voted) and Florida.

If gays want to convince the people to make it legal then by all means go ahead. But trying go above the peoples heads using the courts is wrong.

[butterflie2484]

Romans 1:27

Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Romans 1:26-28 (en Contexto) Romans 1

Romans 6:12

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts.

[jvanhauw]

dear butterflie. I have the utmost respect for your religion. I truly do and I understand you are trying to save us and doing your religious duty. Can you understand that not all people share your opinion and that there should be a separation between politics and religion (if not, which religion should rule? islam? catholics? jews? kinda hard to figure out who is right...they all claim they are right).

Can we agree to disagree, to live and let live and treat each other equally?

[sweatytoothmadman]

"Gay marriage means less birth rates and that is a serious disadvantage in current global economy"

If that is true india should have the number one economy but it is still america.

[GERONAMI]

We never know, everything we see in the American store today is marked, 'Made in China' and every computer geek job is being outsourced to India. California Tech industry will crumble if H-1B visas are stopped.

[RoelGeurtsen]

In the end it was said,Men will be lovers of themselves,Let's hope it's a sign of the Lord's second coming! Great video Geronami!

[butterflie2484]

It is and I cant wait. This world has lost all sense of values and have been blinded from the truth. People are seeking their own lives and making sin into their god. They want to continue doing whatever it is that they want to do regardless of what the Lord says. I pray that they seek the truth and pray that the Lord shows it to them. They dont understand that the purpose of life is to live it for the Lord, not for our own desires and sins.

[butterflie2484]

Genesis 1:28

Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Genesis 9:7

And as for you, be fruitful and multiply;Bring forth abundantly in the earth And multiply in it."

[stoomart]

Two quick comments:

1. Any nation or society that allows the decay of it's moral foundation will surely crumble, save turning from their sins in repentance.

2. Rejection of morality leads to vain judgment.

In Christ's love, stoo

[Anjimom]

As always you make good points.

Stuff to think about.

[andreaarienette]

Allowing gay marriage will not lead to a decline in the birth rate. Those five children would not have been born even if gay marriage was banned. A lift on the gay marriage ban does not "convert" straight people into homosexuals, as you are hinting at.

We don't need more people in this world, anyway.

[VUandChips]

Well said. This man is simply a homophobe.

[butterflie2484]

If gay marriage was banned, two things could have occured. 1.The 5 children could have been if they Chose to follow the Lord and lived the life that God asked for them (one man and one woman):Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

[butterflie2484]

OR 2. Not have children and follow the Lord and be celibate. Those are the two choices that they could have. But to live in sin and to live in your own lust leads to death. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

[andreaarienette]

I don't understand why you believe being gay is a choice.

We _don't_ need more people. The world cannot even sustain the population we have now. Never did I say any where that we should start a genocide, I simply said we should not make it a point to increase the birth rate!

To increase the birth rate would be genocide!

[butterflie2484]

Whether or not you are born gay or not, it is a choice. If you are born gay, you still have a CHOICE to live the gay lifestyle or not. If you cant live a heterosexual one then be celibate and live your life for the Lord. Just like I try to do Gods will and not sin, the same for gays and heterosexuals. Its a choice to live in sin or not.

And as for the population, God made this world for people to populate. He is in control of everything and the world can sustain its people. Cont..

[butterflie2484]

God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

[butterflie2484]

As for not needing any more people, sure, why not start a genocide. We dont need any more people.

[ChristopherLaRock]

If you are so concerned about over population, why not kill yourself?

[butterflie2484]

Hi Chris, I was responding to Andrea and being sarcarstic. I am not really approving to genocide. Read the rest of my comments on this page..

[TerryBogard3]

You are right. I got a question for all gays to. What happend to the greek empire during the last 100 years of rule?

plus I marked sickboyuk as bad responce and he is a racist.

[sikhboyuk]

This fucking ugly son of a bitch care too much about USA....shit man..why dont u care about India...