George Gershwin - That Certain Feeling

[sirjuandabicho]

Muchas gracias por compartirlo.

[zelig46]

inconfondibilmente George, grande

Zelig46

[jdperrenoud]

There's a vocal version sung by Jo Ann Greer on a Gershwin compilation called "Fascinatin' Rhythm." Search Amazon.

[Buurg]

I do wish that sheet music would have survived for this version of the piece. Always have wanted to play it or arrange it it for one person to play. One of my favorite ragtimes that Gershwin has ever written. This and "For your Country and for Mine"

[jammin63]

Do I understand right, there is no sheet music for this version, meaning the one on the Dave Grusin album, this version was cobbled together and is not even close to the orginal? All the tempo marking on the sheet music I find show much slower temp, and don't sound like this version at all. I've been looking for the sheet music for this version for ages, and can't find it, now maybe that is why. Would still love to find it and learn it, if I can! It sounds soo much fun to play....

[gtimny]

You're right, there is no sheet music score for this version which would be impossible for one person to play anyway since it is played by Gershwin on an overdubbed piano roll. That is, the roll was rewound at least once, perhaps more, so that he could add things not played the first time through. The faster tempo and the overdubbed jazzy riffs combine to make a sort of jazzband version suitable for dancing, which was the target market for these rolls.

[gtimny]

There is collection of some of Gershwin's songs including this one which have been transcribed from recordings of Gershwin's own playing by the pianist Artis Woodhouse. They faithfully render how he actually played these himself (without the overdubbing), and believe me they're not easy!

[KawhackitaRag]

I'm sorry but they were not able to make piano rolls that way until the advent of computer technology in the 1970s where Play-Rite Music Rolls in Turlock, CA used a reel-to-reel tape deck for overdubbing piano performances to be made onto a roll.

[KawhackitaRag]

The old "hand-played" rolls, listed as made by one person, with the extra impossible notes all had those notes added by the editor on the drafting board. It would have been impossible to get the all the notes lined up on the second pass-through in the case of a true "overdub", since no pianist plays as mathematically accurately as was required for the early roll perforators in those days.

In fact, all hand-played renditions were quantized by the roll editor for this same reason.

[KawhackitaRag]

In the case of this Aeolian roll, the editor was probably either Frank Milne or Rudy Erlebach.

Both were extremely prolific not only as editors, but also as roll arrangers themselves. Milne, although a competent pianist, reportedly arranged all his roll masters on the kitchen table at home, without a using a marking piano!

Rudy Erlebach made all the hot rolls you can hear on the "Paramount" roll label, plus many other rolls for other companies, notably Aeolian.

[KawhackitaRag]

Some duet rolls are authentic (such as the Botsford and Gumble roll of "Hyacinth Rag" you can hear on Youtube), and were created by two pianists sitting side-by-side at a single marking piano, playing one piano with four hands.

Some of the Arden and Ohman rolls probably started out this way, but most were probably done from sheet music without the use of a keyboard, as it is known that Arden and Ohman would write out two-piano arrangements of songs (for live performances, too).

[KawhackitaRag]

Finally, I should add that you can play piano rolls back at nearly any speed, and the tempo marking on the roll is usually only a guide, and usually not even the opinion of the pianist themselves (since roll tempos are not in standard metronome markings of quarter or eighth notes, but rather feet of paper per minute, which does not necessarily correspond to a standard tempo marking).

[KawhackitaRag]

It is possible for a musically skilled person who knows piano rolls to take a computer scan of the roll (not hard to find, most 1920s Ampico and Duo-Art rolls seem to have been scanned by now) and using software such as Cakewalk, VanBasco or the new work-in-progress program "Hindustan", transcribe the roll into sheet music, which then can be edited into a readable and musically satisfactory score using Finale, Sibelius, etc. My friend Bob Pinsker can do this for a fee.

[KawhackitaRag]

If you wanted to properly play every single note found on this roll, including all the ones added by the roll editor, you will need to have the person transcribing it turn it into an arrangement for one piano, four hands. This means the score will have four staves per system, typically with two bass clefs (or a bass and treble clef) for the low part, and two treble clefs for the top part. You will also need a piano-playing friend to assist you by playing the other part with you.

[albertfromvienna]

@jammin63 Artis Wodehouse did exactly what you were thinking of, I think in 1992. So there is sheet music of all what you hear on this video, yet it is reproduced way too quick. You will have to treat your hands a bit to acquire all the skill demanded, but it IS big fun (even if you struggle and never get it, like me). Check the performance of Jack Gibbons (and corresponding videos here, by the way), who is, to my knowledge the only pianist doing all the piano roll stuff. Enjoy!

[cresta141]

To be honest, I got no idea if there is any other extended version of this work... It is the only file I obtained for this melody... - Regardless; I Thank you for your interest.

[adrusarabi]

Great, is there a long version of this on piano?

[albertfromvienna]

not on youtube. there are two CD recordings of Gershwin plays Gershwin piano rolls, and they are in the right tempo . this version has been cut together for some introduction of a contemporary Gershwin CD....

[bluefire773]

I love this song so much. =)