Ride is not my cup of tea. I prefer the traditional finish cymbals over the shiny ones, if only because of the sound. I love the look of the brilliant finish though. I've had both and couldn't find the sound I wanted with the brilliant byzances.
For me, these are the best brilliant cymbals out there. Amazing sound!!! Felix Lehrmann´s playing makes us being able listening to the full potential of these cymbals...GREAT!!!
Why was he using all medium stuff with a heavy ride anyway? I dont like his ride technique either, if he played it lower he would get a clean ping and a nice wash.
is the hats byzance brilliant 13" fast hi hats or 14" (thomas lang ones). not sure if i should get 13" or 14" because im looking for some nice versatile (brilliant sound, but dry sound when played harder) hats which really distinct my hi hat work. thanks
I'm not saying this to be argumentative or anything, it's just that his ride cymbal technique is a really excellent and widely used technique called 'back of the hand technique'. Jojo Mayer, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, Benny Greb and many more use it ALL the time. Check it out dude, the chicks dig it!
The Byzance Brilliant line is intended for heavier styles of music. While I am aware of the MB20's, 10's, and 8's, this guy isn't doing these cymbals justice. While he is a great player, I just don't agree with him using these cymbals for his playing.
@MEINLcymbals can you send me a link to those cymbals, and also mind telling me how you didn't get so much ring out of your coated heads, and what snare head you used.
It is way to common, but in the lack for better words, from an ignorant little bastard-child who, sadly i left alone on my YouTube account, i'd like to apologize.
After watching the video, yes. He should have hit the China more. Great sounds though!
That's weird, I've got the 22" version of that ride and it sounds amazing, maybe this was one of the worse ones of the batch. Anyway, sweet cymbals and even sweeter drumming!
@SchecterMeinl Yeah, I would. Bare in mind, because of the way they are manafactured they are naturally very washy, but there is still stick definition there. The bell isn't the most powerful, but still obviously there. They crash amazingly too.
@TheDevilPlaysDrums I'm just having so much trouble deciding which cymbals I want. All the Meinls (even the low-end ones) sound so good I want them all! Unfortunately, though, I'm not a millionaire. lol
Everytime I try to get myself to find an excuse to buy sabian or zildjian cymbals y find myself depresed. . . Im convincend that nothing is going to beat meinl at sound quality and the wide range of cymbal styles theyve got.
I secondly agree, the Ride is not that much of a turn on. The rest of the cymbals sound great. I'm sporting a Brilliant 16" Med-Thin now, and that baby talks to the crowd. Even at the slightest touch.
Splash is cool, china is cool, hi hats are cool but I really don't care much for the ride or crashes too much. The Byzance dark crashes and ride were dope though...and this dude rules.
@MarkHarrellJr I agree, the Byzance dark crashes and ride sounded way better. The Byzance dark seems to work better as a set, too. I feel the Byzance brilliant line doesn't work that well as a set.
i have a very similar set up (drum and cymbals) but my cymbals are sabian xs20's and sound similar to these , except for the ride, mine sounds way better
i heard the crashes, the hihats, the splash, and then i hear the ride and its like BLEERHEGHERGHERHGERGETRGHTR and now i hate the ride but i like the rest
seriously, what kind of computer sound setup do you have to say that these cymbals sound like crap and this ride sound like crap? maybe your sound card is crap or your speakers are crap cause these cymbals are awesome. and to the freak that says that meinl are cheaper you smoke too much weed. seriuosly too much kids who talk a lot of crap here about cymbals they will never be able to afford. stick with your overated machine made zildjians and stfu.
i gots meinl but it seems like every one dogs them saying theyre the worst of the major cymbal companies theyre not the worst just most unique and im meinl for life after that
@marcoantoniomirandar it's a cymbals demo. are you expecting a fucking 20min masturbatorsolo? i like his style because he's having alot of details. especially on the hi-hat. i'm looking for a new china and meinl is the way to go! just can't effort a mb20 or a byzance :/
@marcoantoniomirandar LOL yeah,felix lehrmann goes off tempo.I would like to know that do you think about Tony Royster Jr. and about his generic hip hop beats.
He's showing off the cymbals,NOT his skills.He does it right: with a simple,catchy and groovy beat.But he shows he knows what he's doing by using techniques like ghost notes and accents/variations.What else you need?
I love the fact that you can crash on almost all of the meinl rides. all of the rides i've seen so far from meinl are crashable and i love that feature from a ride! :D Meinl byzance Rock my sox off!!!!
@mikecohn4000 Well most splashes are. It's not like your going to use it to get too many sounds. I personally like the sound. It sort of sounds like a little stack.
holy shit wut size splash is that?
PartyPoison9191 2 weeks ago
@fiercefun My mistake, I meant to put in ZBT and ZXT. Just in the cheaper cymbals Meinl would have the upper hand.
SkateNCreate777 3 weeks ago
Cymbal choice is PERSONAL PREFERENCE...all this bashing about somebodies opinion isn't needed, just enjoy the damn drummer and the damn cymbals.
THAT SPLASH IS JUST NASTY...
Drumminsince89 1 month ago
The most godly china ever
NotAnge 1 month ago
Simply the BEST Cymbal Series ever made.
Inyourfaceish 1 month ago
i have the 16" byzance china, it has such a great tone to it, such a brilliant cymbal!!
8myfavouritenumber 1 month ago
@fiercefun id say their better than zildjian A's but not K's just my opinion
MMTPproductionz 1 month ago
The way I see it, you could get any brand of Meinl cymbals (HCS, MCS,Byzance, etc.) and they would be better than Zildjian by far.
SkateNCreate777 2 months ago
@SkateNCreate777 You have lost your F'n mind!
MrMillsfrank 1 month ago
I have these chrash,splash and china
OhDigga99 2 months ago
ahhhhhhhh!!!! which one should i buy, the extra dry hi hat or the Brilliant hi hat?
juanbarros88 2 months ago
best splash i've heard
juanbarros88 2 months ago
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CalluPro 2 months ago
Worst ride I ever heard, next to the M-Series rides.
SuperNotNoob 2 months ago
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SuperNotNoob 2 months ago
Tama Starclassic Performer... awesome choice of shells
tanx30 3 months ago
@tanx30 Actually comparing to that sonor from other meinl videos, that tama is weak.
Zofti 2 months ago
love the cymbal pack hate that ride
its good but i just like dry rides that is all
colesyyy19 3 months ago
amazing china
batera609 3 months ago
The whole time he is drumming he is just thinking, "I love my job."
joshoates1 3 months ago
nice playing man !!! ;)
granjax 3 months ago
splash sounds like a stack
dustyowl99 4 months ago
Am I mistaken or is that a Tama Starclassic? cause it is BEAUTIFUL. And the cymbals OH MY GOD.
GINASFSIDKAYBICTD 4 months ago
@GINASFSIDKAYBICTD its a sonor kit,don't knwo what type.
goodnamepending 4 months ago
@goodnamepending no it's a Tama. Possibly a Starclassic. The lugs, Tom mounts, and hardware clearly show it's a Tama.
dudewuttheheck 4 months ago
I love all the cymbals, especially the china and splash, i'm not digging the ride though.
pierces19941 4 months ago
@pierces19941 yeah this ride has nothing on the mb10 ride...at least in my opinion
bcoklay2 4 months ago
One of the best cymbals! They f***in rule!
bakkmac 4 months ago
How do you get a tom tone like that?
MikePostDrums 4 months ago
Ride is not my cup of tea. I prefer the traditional finish cymbals over the shiny ones, if only because of the sound. I love the look of the brilliant finish though. I've had both and couldn't find the sound I wanted with the brilliant byzances.
zerosoma33 5 months ago
For me, these are the best brilliant cymbals out there. Amazing sound!!! Felix Lehrmann´s playing makes us being able listening to the full potential of these cymbals...GREAT!!!
Schlagwerker1988 5 months ago
i'd let this dude pump my girlfriend, he's that good.
Undercurrentuk1 5 months ago
@Undercurrentuk1 Yeah... He's not THAT good....
joromark 4 months ago
the ride sounds better as a CRASH!!!
ruination866 5 months ago
I think it's a pretty good ride.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 5 months ago
with the ride sound, its sounds like a song. lol
SoulWax2k3k 5 months ago
that splash and those hats are orgasmic
pescalante2 5 months ago
love the hi-hat :)
MrKevchen 5 months ago
Why was he using all medium stuff with a heavy ride anyway? I dont like his ride technique either, if he played it lower he would get a clean ping and a nice wash.
madrigalhd 5 months ago
is the hats byzance brilliant 13" fast hi hats or 14" (thomas lang ones). not sure if i should get 13" or 14" because im looking for some nice versatile (brilliant sound, but dry sound when played harder) hats which really distinct my hi hat work. thanks
Brok3nCarlos 6 months ago
NEED... HIHAT... NEEED... CHINA!!!!!
SuperNotNoob 7 months ago
and that splash... omfg
NaxusDrum 7 months ago 23
niemanddrummer87
I'm not saying this to be argumentative or anything, it's just that his ride cymbal technique is a really excellent and widely used technique called 'back of the hand technique'. Jojo Mayer, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl, Benny Greb and many more use it ALL the time. Check it out dude, the chicks dig it!
Massive props to Felix. One of my top 5.
liamwaugh 7 months ago
@liamwaugh I DO THAT TOO!
darktirador 6 months ago
I FUCKING LOVE THE 18 INCH CRASHES OF ALL SERIES BYZANCE... I'M IN LOVE XD
NaxusDrum 7 months ago
i dont like his technique when he plays on the ride..
niemanddrummer87 7 months ago
@MrT3ShA yeah it is a brilliant one but as you said it seems musicansfriend doesn't sell it
maybe you could ask a local music shop to get one for you
it's a real nice splash.....like BAM INTO YOUR FACE! and gets out of the way fast : D
weed940 7 months ago
PUT YOUR TONGUE BACK IN YOUR MOUTH..... slob.
MarioBangsAshley 7 months ago
@MarioBangsAshley fail thumps up try...
BarfProductionz 7 months ago
@sickbo121 yep your right:P
BarfProductionz 7 months ago
@sickbo121 not its not.. its 20 inch medium ride
BarfProductionz 7 months ago
PLEASE tell me what mics you use, this is one of the best sounding kits i've ever heard! :O
louis595 8 months ago
HE DRUMS LIKE A BEAST!!!!!
ziggyrig 8 months ago
dosnt it! thats the last ride i would have
joeyjuniorjunior 8 months ago
give me those hats now! they sound so crisp I always jizz my pants
pescalante2 8 months ago
These chinas are SEXAY!
jpes07 9 months ago 51
The Byzance Brilliant line is intended for heavier styles of music. While I am aware of the MB20's, 10's, and 8's, this guy isn't doing these cymbals justice. While he is a great player, I just don't agree with him using these cymbals for his playing.
BoxOnWheelsPrdctns 9 months ago
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@BoxOnWheelsPrdctns yeah i totally agree
CalientexDrummer 9 months ago
@MEINLcymbals can you send me a link to those cymbals, and also mind telling me how you didn't get so much ring out of your coated heads, and what snare head you used.
curiousdwarf93 9 months ago
id rather use my ride than this one and i use a b8 rock crash
but the rest sound good but i prefer traditional
omgme2894 10 months ago
What kit is Felix using in this video?
MikePostDrums 10 months ago
@MikePostDrums looks like a tama starclassic to me
pinkvelvet100 9 months ago
@pinkvelvet100 Thanks!
MikePostDrums 9 months ago
@MikePostDrums looks like a tama starclassic
tisBenG 9 months ago
@tisBenG Thank you. :)
MikePostDrums 9 months ago
@MikePostDrums - Tama Starclassic Performer - B/B !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI Thank you very much. :)
MikePostDrums 9 months ago
@MikePostDrums - graag gedaan !
BERZITI 9 months ago
The china sounds good!
lobotomitheband 11 months ago
Hit the fucking china, you fat Nazi..
MatHan77 11 months ago
@MatHan77 German =/= Nazi. Obviously you meant it in derogatory fashion, but seriously, that joke or crack, whatever it is, is way too common.
With that said, he definitely should've hit the china more.
AspiringRocker729 10 months ago
@AspiringRocker729
It is way to common, but in the lack for better words, from an ignorant little bastard-child who, sadly i left alone on my YouTube account, i'd like to apologize.
After watching the video, yes. He should have hit the China more. Great sounds though!
MatHan77 10 months ago
@MatHan77
Nvm, didn't see that you apologized.
wowrazzor 10 months ago
@wowrazzor Yeah, well he's never gonna get on my account again.
MatHan77 10 months ago
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wowrazzor 10 months ago
I just purchased those hi hats, I hope they arrive soon. . .
1Genz1 11 months ago
That's weird, I've got the 22" version of that ride and it sounds amazing, maybe this was one of the worse ones of the batch. Anyway, sweet cymbals and even sweeter drumming!
TheDevilPlaysDrums 11 months ago
@TheDevilPlaysDrums So you would recommend the ride? I was planning to get all byzance brilliants except the ride, cuz it sounds so bad...
SchecterMeinl 11 months ago
@SchecterMeinl Yeah, I would. Bare in mind, because of the way they are manafactured they are naturally very washy, but there is still stick definition there. The bell isn't the most powerful, but still obviously there. They crash amazingly too.
TheDevilPlaysDrums 11 months ago
@TheDevilPlaysDrums I'm just having so much trouble deciding which cymbals I want. All the Meinls (even the low-end ones) sound so good I want them all! Unfortunately, though, I'm not a millionaire. lol
SchecterMeinl 11 months ago
Everytime I try to get myself to find an excuse to buy sabian or zildjian cymbals y find myself depresed. . . Im convincend that nothing is going to beat meinl at sound quality and the wide range of cymbal styles theyve got.
1Genz1 11 months ago
Jeez you can tell when he's hitting that ride, he knows it sounds like freakin' crap ...
clarefeehilly 11 months ago
luv the bold of the ride, sounds like a power bell
imabitch4u 11 months ago
I actually don't think the ride sounds bad..
DEADMANSJOURNAL 11 months ago
The ride is like mine, the problem is that it's a sabian b8.
Unungordium 1 year ago
@Unungordium LOLOL!!! Nice (I can laugh because I had B8's forever)
KiloHoplite 10 months ago
I saw this drummer live with dendemann.. he is amazing!
palaber123 1 year ago
how big is the splash? i like the sound and i think it's a 8"?
LoZanneee 1 year ago
The overhead mics are earthworks
wong5150 1 year ago
He's a fucking good drummer.
foshizmaniz21 1 year ago
I cant get this damn beat outa my head! and i love it!, also Meinl is QUALITY
DRAG0NSIN7 1 year ago
@P13K3R7 Obviously its not a coincidence, but that doesnt mean its some nazi takeover...
mein kamph is incredibly famous so that is why it came up...
happyheadpopper 1 year ago
@P13K3R7
i swear the same thing happend to me!
purke911 1 year ago
@P13K3R7 lmfao!!! Hitler cymbals!
PilGrimmm 1 year ago
Lovin' that hi-hat, but ride ruins all the joy.
ollimaha 1 year ago
@ollimaha Totally agree, its just like "oh hi, i'm ass."
PilGrimmm 1 year ago
the ride sucks!
GRIMAVERDE 1 year ago
I secondly agree, the Ride is not that much of a turn on. The rest of the cymbals sound great. I'm sporting a Brilliant 16" Med-Thin now, and that baby talks to the crowd. Even at the slightest touch.
Hoprgras 1 year ago
dont see left handed drummers very often.
profchaos712 1 year ago
Splash is cool, china is cool, hi hats are cool but I really don't care much for the ride or crashes too much. The Byzance dark crashes and ride were dope though...and this dude rules.
MarkHarrellJr 1 year ago
@MarkHarrellJr I agree, the Byzance dark crashes and ride sounded way better. The Byzance dark seems to work better as a set, too. I feel the Byzance brilliant line doesn't work that well as a set.
MikePostDrums 1 year ago
@mitrac3700
I bet he gets the option to keep some but not all of them.
paulvenkman 1 year ago
nice drumming.very clear!
sk8nmetalpsycho 1 year ago
ride bell should be bigger!
Blastphemer 1 year ago
16" brilliant medium crash on the left?
masterfilmerTV 1 year ago
@masterfilmerTV 18"
foshizmaniz21 1 year ago
ride sucks.
jayziembka 1 year ago
anyone wanna tell me how to connect multiple mics to a camera?
foshizmaniz21 1 year ago
what over head mics are those?
cricket702 1 year ago
I have these hihats, and yes, they are amazing.
xxpbdudexx 1 year ago
@xxpbdudexx what size are those? 13"?
masterfilmerTV 1 year ago
@masterfilmerTV I'm not sure what size these are, but mine are 14"
xxpbdudexx 1 year ago
@masterfilmerTV Never mind, it says at the end of the video that they are 14" as well.
xxpbdudexx 1 year ago
the only high quality meinl rides are the sand ride and some dark nd extra dry
MrVengeance1984 1 year ago
@MrVengeance1984 mb20 heavy bell ride 22"
Devenialverdict 1 year ago
the tama iron cobra is really amazing
patatas243 1 year ago
agreed rede sounds average, but the hi-hats on the other hand are amazing
resurgamus 1 year ago
Fuck what an amazing drummer ! But that ride is shitty as hell !
Laurenan69 1 year ago
The ride sucks ass
Haloun 1 year ago 124
@Haloun thats because its a 20" medium crash maby?
BarfProductionz 7 months ago
too bad all of those cymbals probably cost more than my car :(
SchruteFarms69 1 year ago
i have a very similar set up (drum and cymbals) but my cymbals are sabian xs20's and sound similar to these , except for the ride, mine sounds way better
TheMarcosaguila 1 year ago
@TheMarcosaguila Nothing compares to Byzance maybe you got bad ears.
xxxnityninexxx 1 year ago
i would love to have these cymbals but instead of this ride (which sounds terrible) i would have a byzance dark ride
TheMarcosaguila 1 year ago
I be trollin'
MrZaynetw 1 year ago
it seems like half the viewers like the ride but half dont lol..
mik4225drumming 1 year ago
The ride sounds sick.
..Poor thing :[
hitman45400 1 year ago
It's because the ride is a heavy ride.
xxpbdudexx 1 year ago
i heard the crashes, the hihats, the splash, and then i hear the ride and its like BLEERHEGHERGHERHGERGETRGHTR and now i hate the ride but i like the rest
rockguru14 1 year ago
great fast respond of the 10'
dmtharpua 1 year ago
ride sounds like shit
obadiah556 1 year ago
great hat's...and the ride its great too. the reason of the sound is the bell, that happens when you really dont know about cymbals.
1nicolaspardo 1 year ago
seriously, what kind of computer sound setup do you have to say that these cymbals sound like crap and this ride sound like crap? maybe your sound card is crap or your speakers are crap cause these cymbals are awesome. and to the freak that says that meinl are cheaper you smoke too much weed. seriuosly too much kids who talk a lot of crap here about cymbals they will never be able to afford. stick with your overated machine made zildjians and stfu.
stromghouls 1 year ago
The ride only sounded good when he tried to crash it
shark1tall 1 year ago
Beautiful tone. Love how crisp, responsive, and clean the hats are. Great drummer too!
dw9906 1 year ago
amazing groove. :-O
I200gI 1 year ago
I'm loving these hats... if I ever get bored of my Byzance Trads I wanna give them a go!
Mp5Drummer 1 year ago
whats wirth you people, I love the ride :P
Skutieos7 1 year ago
Is this a hyperdrive? the high tom looks like 10 x 6,5?
Anyone who knows these heas? i guess evans g2??
tamadrums101 1 year ago
much respect to this guy. Thumbs if you agree??????
drummingtothesky 1 year ago
Its true i like every thing except the ride.
ajboojay 1 year ago
Power to the lefty :D
theheritic209 1 year ago
i gots meinl but it seems like every one dogs them saying theyre the worst of the major cymbal companies theyre not the worst just most unique and im meinl for life after that
godrum619 1 year ago
hes so good, I'm ashamed being called a drummer
AmbitiousMOnkey1100 1 year ago
@AmbitiousMOnkey1100 lol ur kidding right?? He get's off tempo like 4 times and follows a generic hip hop beat for the most part
marcoantoniomirandar 1 year ago
@marcoantoniomirandar watch his other vids on meinl
AmbitiousMOnkey1100 1 year ago
@marcoantoniomirandar it's a cymbals demo. are you expecting a fucking 20min masturbatorsolo? i like his style because he's having alot of details. especially on the hi-hat. i'm looking for a new china and meinl is the way to go! just can't effort a mb20 or a byzance :/
Nemorosus 1 year ago
@marcoantoniomirandar LOL yeah,felix lehrmann goes off tempo.I would like to know that do you think about Tony Royster Jr. and about his generic hip hop beats.
He's showing off the cymbals,NOT his skills.He does it right: with a simple,catchy and groovy beat.But he shows he knows what he's doing by using techniques like ghost notes and accents/variations.What else you need?
scaxxomaxx 1 year ago
@scaxxomaxx What else do you need? I need you to shut up. Is that simple and "groovy" enough for you?
marcoantoniomirandar 1 year ago
I will make sweet love to all of these cymbals...but the ride will have to sit on the side and watch.
FOXGEAR92 1 year ago
every cymbal there sounds good to me except the ride. :\
readme60 1 year ago
@readme60 Yeah Dont think it sound's to good either:/
MeinlFanatic 1 year ago
that ride bell sounds terrible..
rockeroftheband1 1 year ago
Those cymbals sound awesome and so does your drumming
drumman888 1 year ago
man props to the the germans! great cymbals
bryninhaspearldrums 1 year ago
What hi hats are those?
Br0k3M3xican 1 year ago
@Br0k3M3xican meinl byzance brilliant? lol
zelcorat 1 year ago
@zelcorat Oops meant size :)
Br0k3M3xican 1 year ago
@Br0k3M3xican 14" medium hats
crazydrummer452 1 year ago
I love the fact that you can crash on almost all of the meinl rides. all of the rides i've seen so far from meinl are crashable and i love that feature from a ride! :D Meinl byzance Rock my sox off!!!!
Zimmy244 1 year ago
damn that splash sounds nasty!
wrthdrumer 1 year ago
@wrthdrumer yea its very 1 dimensional and the ride doesnt have the best sound.
mikecohn4000 1 year ago
@mikecohn4000 wrthdrumer mean't he liked the sound...
Ramen1020 1 year ago
@Ramen1020 oh. but wouldnt u agree the splash is a bit 1 dimensional?
mikecohn4000 1 year ago
@mikecohn4000 Well most splashes are. It's not like your going to use it to get too many sounds. I personally like the sound. It sort of sounds like a little stack.
Ramen1020 1 year ago
@Ramen1020 agreed
mikecohn4000 1 year ago
Love that jammin groove he does.
Wolfparade51 1 year ago
the hats and the splashes sound the best
jtn2895 1 year ago
That is a Tama Starclassic Bubinga and Birch Series kit
starclassic71 1 year ago
part of the reason this vid is so great is fthat Cat it laying down such a heavy groove, it's sick!
SuperDrummerJoe 1 year ago
the cymbals are nice but dang that TAMA is sounding good... what set is that exactly?
mapexlb 1 year ago
Not a fan of the ride, but man, those hats and splash sound phenomenal.
SpartanCarver 1 year ago
do they sound as good irl??
mateoarv 1 year ago
@mateoarv yeah, meinl makes kick ass cymbals
RyGuy029 1 year ago
@mateoarv The china sounds better.
Mp5Drummer 1 year ago
gotta love the hi-hat
metaldrummer12345 1 year ago