that would be because the average stove top can only reach about 260 degrees c when zinc melts at 420 degrees c not hot enough to melt zinc. also when you preform the flame test on zinc it becomes a greenish blue so thats your green colour not MnO2 hope that helped
Hi,i wanted to get zinc from zinc-carbon batteries,i followed your steps,and i can get zinc.But when I want to melt the zinc can,it doesn't melt,but i can see green flames and sparks appeared when i try to burn it with the stove in my kitchen.Is it because of the manganese dioxide stuck on the zinc which affected the process of melting zinc?
Fantastic video! however... I used my leatherman multi-tool for this and now there is a black, sticky rubbery substance on the tips of the pliers part which i am having trouble getting off with water. Would i be better to use an organic solvent (ie turps, methylated spirits etc) ?
I decided to melt the zinc with my propane torch. However some zinc melted and some turned into a white, almost insoluble power, wich turns green when heated with the torch.
@NelsonR001 The real question is why would you "decide" to melt zinc without first reading and studying facts about zinc itself. You mean powder, not power, right
Do you mean the Kipkay video? His stuff is normally pretty legit, but I wouldn't try any of his "Battery Hacks" because he doesn't seem like he knows what he's talking about when it really comes down to it.
If you take apart alkaline you can get a steel casing, manganese, carbon rod, and zinc powder, (just be sure to wear gloves as alkaline batteries contain either KOH or NOH)
I have a question about something to whoever can answer. I first extracted the manganese dioxide from some D alkaline batteries. I then reacted it with excess HCl from the muriatic acid pool jug. I was trying to form pink MnCl2 as the reaction is supposed to produce but I want to understand what happened. The solution was dark green and I evaporated off the water and HCl until I collected a dark green powder. I want to know what it is and how I can get larger crystals
@NurdRage plz reply i did this to get the zinc and electrodes but my question is what will happen if there is some mno2 left on the inside of the zinc but very very little ive used a scrub pad and still couldnt get it all off
Try soaking it in bleach or something . . . .but if there's still some left, try cutting the casing open and re-cleaning it. If that fails, then give the inside one last good scrub and just take into account the small amount of contamination when using it for an experiment.
Its not a fake viral it has to be the enegiser lanturn.. i really did it to find out. and durecell lanmturn had 4 d sizr baterys so you should correct that.
@NurdRage I think @dominiks2486 is right! Actually they have one small magic unicorn inside which produces the electric current. Due to their size they are referred to as 16-32AA batties. ( 'Cos they bat their eyes at viewers). batteries is a common misnomer. @dominiks2486 has a big collection of them (Unicorns) so if you need them for some project give him a holler.
@iliya1997 - because he may be making drugs or bobms for a living or certainly authorities might think that and ride his house confiscating all these precious thing he managed to collect. Being a amateur chemist is very risky, authorities wants you to be happy go lucky not knowing anything besides your job polite citizen.
I also have another question. What is a good way to clean your tools to get rid of the mno2 off them? I had to leave suddenly for a specific reason that isn't necessarily to explain here for a few hours. left the tools covered in the manganese and having a bit of a problem in cleaning them off and was wondering if there was some sort of solvent that would make cleaning them easier then using 409.
PART 4: sorry not enough room.... after you rock and slide the handle out of the MnO2 and bring it out you will get the entire contents paper and all out, much faster and I find you get more out as the paper hangs on for all life and its beautiful. After doing this to two heavy batteries I was able to speed up the work, yeld more MnO2 about 810g total, and made paper removal super easy. I needed to share this as the vidoes are awesome thanks!!!!
This is an awesome tip and worked like a charm for me, to get the most out in gathering the MnO2, forget the screw driver, use the handle of a table spoon that you will not be able to ruturn to the kitchen so once in the lab it will never go back, anywho JAM THE HANDLE of the Table Spoon straight into the MnO2 while hugging the the side of the cell, works best this way, if you go in the middle it dont work, once at the bottom, pry the spoons handle towards the other wall and slide...
Part 2, lol,,, 2: after seperating the large celled (4) batteries and you want to save the top and wiring on the carbon rod, forgot attempting to pull it out, instead use the needle nose plyers to roll back the zinc metal cells lip do this all around and you can access under the plastic top which this also makes cutting it no longer needed, use the needle nose players to grab the rod from under the plastic cap Final very helpful tip, running out of room, lol Part 3
Taking one of these things apart was a slow art in itself, however while doing it I took slow time and examined what I was doing and in a collective time of 2 hours I have some tricks that make it a bit easier. 1: There's no need to cut all the way around the top with a knife, just score one side and a cornor and by using wire cutters make a hole in the side, then use needle nose plyers to POP the top off. (running out of room lol so I will make a second comment....
hey nurdrage.. please ensure to caption all your videos, i am deaf and really enjoy watching your videos. but if there is no captions, then i would not enjoy it at all. thanks
I tried doing this with a d battery from the dollar store and it worked well. The only problem was I couldn't really clean out the zinc casing too well. Would it still be ok to use the zinc to make gold pennies if it is all dirty? If not where else can you find zinc because I have been looking all over
i opened up one of these batteries, but its a real pain in the butt to have to clean out the MnO2 from the Zinc casing. is there a chemical that will make the cleaning process easier? preferably one thats OTC?
Is there any way to turn manganese sulfate back into MnO2?
Because I was thinking, if you could make some manganese sulfate, get rid of most of the impurities, and then you could turn the manganese sulfate back into nearly pure manganese dioxide. Then you wouldn't have to get ripped off on the internet : P.
If you want cheap zinc metal for chemistry experiments, you can also use U.S. pennies after 1982. You can obtain a surprising number of metals cheaply from coinage, including copper (pennies before 1982), silver (generic silver rounds, generally much cheaper than bars), and nickel (Canadian nickels before 1981, and most dimes/quarters).
@FortNikitaBullion If you want nickel, canadian 10 cents up to 1999 is a good source. 99.9%. After that, it became steel plated with nickel. Oh yeah, same deal with 25 cents.
@BogMonkey53 use nickel. stainless steel features 'alright' chemical resistance, but it's not all that. I've managed to rot stainless using the reactive gases. the most chemically inert metal used for things like regulators on those gas cylinder is called Monel, and it's not iron based. It's mainly nickel (and the regulators are EXPENSIVE, £500 each). there's a guy on SciMad who's making big lumps of pure sodium from molten hydroxide (dissolves lab glass) using nickel as one of the electrodes
@BogMonkey53 oh, and if your tools are steel or iron based. you'll need to rinse them, a few times. preferably with warm water, to get all that acid back off. or they'll be covered in rust the next morning, or hours later
@BogMonkey53 dilute sulphuric acid will clean up the manganese. but these batteries are also loaded with activated carbon, which is pitch black, microscopic dust that sticks to everything. try the dilute acid (battery acid will work). I have it ALL OVER the place now because I've been experimenting with electroluminescent paints in response to the nurd and miss J. ellsworth. zinc sulphide from the casing (sulphuric & reduced with sulphur for pets), reduce MnO2 to Mn with carbon for the dopant.
I did this with AAA battery just for try. I was need Zinc, and I found it. This is nice because on this way you can recicle your old batterys. Just if battery was used you have to clean the zinc verry good. But nice metod. Thanx NurdRage! Oh yea, if you need a website, I can help you! We are renting servers (hostings) so if you want it, I can give it to you for free, because I love your videos! Send me a message!
We all know how to grow crystals, both in small and larger forms, but just how did you get the CuSO4 that big?? I've tried and tried and tried, but always without success!!
I have only seen zinc carbon batteries twice in my life. Are zinc carbon batteries the same as carbon-zinc ones? I just want confirmation. And so when the battery becomes dead, I can open it up and salvage the materials? What about if it's brand new? and btw, lol "Oh.. Crap."
If you were to get little amounts of manganese dioxide into your blood or into a cut what will happen? because i accidently ripped off the top and tried cutting off the plastic top and it wasnt bleeding alot and it didnt show the cut and *i just remembered i forgot to where gloves ;(. then when i was removing the paper bits from the MnO2 it bled and the cut was huge!!!!. so what will happen? i cleaned it with water and the bleeding stopped and everything. its close to trace amounts tho.
i tried this with an AAA battery that said heavy duty and it also said that it contained lead. i opened it cause im way too curious to leave it lol. but i forgot the gloves part but i washed my hands thourougly afterwards. so now im stuck with 2 questions:
1. where is the lead? (i only found the zinc casing a carbon rod,MnO2 and some plastic but not lead :O)
@uut0 The lead is in the manganese dioxide and in the zinc. the zinc is naturally contaminated with lead. The manganese dioxide got it's lead from the manufacturing process that used lead electrodes, a tiny amount of lead shavings come off when the manganese dioxide is separated from the electrode. A small amount of lead may also be natural depending on the source of MnO2.
@uut0 the nurd is correct, but I would add an extra caution. lead on it's own as a solid bit of metal isn't very dangerous. it is very dangerous when it's in a salt form (because salts dissolve in water, and your body is mainly water). some batteries do contain acidic electrolytes and salts. on your hands, it's not going to instantly absorb through and kill you, but it will tend to stick to your hands, which then end up on your sandwich, near your mouth or up your nose (order of events variable)
@hugestomper Actually there is no mercury involved with this type of battery at all. However it used to be present in a lot of the older "coin cell" batteries.
@dragonslayx7 kipkay is cool, and his voice is cooler. All in all, though, I think NurdRage has better experiments. Also, NurdRage's voice, though not cool, is not a detractor.
lol I wan't able to open mine with a knife so I got angry and threw it from a height on to concrete :P. That got it open and only slightly dented one cell
yes, but you'd have to wash it. idk how you'd get it into a rod though, the rods are really hard. I'd compare it to aluminum, although not quite as hard and its not maleable at all.
What if I just wanted the carbon electrode (ie. for water electrolysis with epsom salt as the electrolyte) without the zinc or the MnO2, would I be able to just use a graphite rod from a pencil, instead of destroying the battery?
yes, idk about the electrolysis, i didn't even think about it yet. You can use graphite as an electrode. they do breakdown btw, you'll need the right voltage. I just did this btw, its really easy to do.
no, but the carbon rods in this video are used in a 1.5 volt battery. I'd start there. Also, i used 45 volts for electrolysis with graphite. It smoked in the air. I'd say you should start from around 1.5 volts to 12. 6v may also be good, as the rods came from a 6v battery. They shouldn't decompose tooo much btw. buy some salt and some mechanical pencil lead and try it out before you try it with whatever you want to use them for. It may vary depending on solution.
I haven't tried them yet for that, i would assume the erosion would be pretty high. But if you want to give it a shot go for it and report to me the results. :)
@NurdRage: Update: erosion is considerable, but you can filter it through. I'm in the process of making the manganous sulfate from one of your more recent videos, as a proof-of-concept experiment such that I can make my own, more stable anodes (as you have in the other video).
But that being said, a carbon rod works well as an anode. At 5 V and 700 mA, the part submerged in the liquid will wear away after a few days, but not egregiously so. For 3.00 for a battery, that's 75 cents per anode. :)
You forgot one thing: There is carbon powder added to the MnO2 to increase its conductivity. I exploit this when I pyrolyze the MnO2 to Mn because the extra carbon helps reduce it.
myh battery had like some kind of thick, really hard stuff , dont know what its called in english but used for making roads lol, its a pain to get through that layer, but after that theres the mno2
carbon-zinc, heavy duty or that stuff.. if you can find on a AA or AAA battery.. then look for a light weight battery or one that says ''R6'' and then 1 letter more.. then you can be quite sure its having these 3 things in (= electrode, mno2 and zinc.. theyre not as common as the alkaline batteries
OF COURSE THE SUBSTANCE IN CERTAIN TYPES OF COMMON HOUSEHOLD BATTERIES IS REMARKABLE SIMILAR TO CHLORAMINE, WHICH IS USED TO CHEMICALLY CONSTRUCT HYDRAZINE. Which as any true nerd knows is rocket fuel. Q: how much hydrazine did it take to get man to the moon.
The viral video was a gag video made by Daneboe. Not meant to be taken seriously.
angelica319 4 days ago
that would be because the average stove top can only reach about 260 degrees c when zinc melts at 420 degrees c not hot enough to melt zinc. also when you preform the flame test on zinc it becomes a greenish blue so thats your green colour not MnO2 hope that helped
donniesview 1 month ago
Hi,i wanted to get zinc from zinc-carbon batteries,i followed your steps,and i can get zinc.But when I want to melt the zinc can,it doesn't melt,but i can see green flames and sparks appeared when i try to burn it with the stove in my kitchen.Is it because of the manganese dioxide stuck on the zinc which affected the process of melting zinc?
Please answer,thanks!
version147 1 month ago
You can use those carbon rods to make an arc light or an electrical arc furnace. All sorts of trouble you can get into 8->
rredd7777 1 month ago
Fantastic video! however... I used my leatherman multi-tool for this and now there is a black, sticky rubbery substance on the tips of the pliers part which i am having trouble getting off with water. Would i be better to use an organic solvent (ie turps, methylated spirits etc) ?
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vvvcodevvv 1 month ago
what if the battery is dead? Is the MnO2 still good?
caustic128 1 month ago
Yes, powder, a white stuff.
NelsonR001 2 months ago
Hi, I thist this.
I decided to melt the zinc with my propane torch. However some zinc melted and some turned into a white, almost insoluble power, wich turns green when heated with the torch.
What is this?
Why this happened?
NelsonR001 2 months ago
@NelsonR001
The powder is highly likely to be zinc oxide, as the metal oxidizes rapidly when heated;
2Zn + O2 --> 2ZnO
98JMA 2 months ago
@NelsonR001 The real question is why would you "decide" to melt zinc without first reading and studying facts about zinc itself. You mean powder, not power, right
?
Ypnovatis 2 months ago
I used this exact same thing for the rods to maky hydrogen gas.
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this is before using the battery, correct?
ChaoticOrder73 2 months ago
when you filter the black stuff with water is the MnO2 left in the filter or in the container that is under the filter ?
StefanB2112 2 months ago
what can you do with the carbon rod and MnO2 ?
StefanB2112 2 months ago
Hello,
There is a way to purify the MnO2 out of batteries.
MnO2 + 4HCl --> MnCl2 + Cl2 + 2H2O
MnCl2 + 2NaHCO3 --> MnCO3 + 2NaCl + H2O + CO2
MnCO3 + 2HNO3 --> Mn(NO3)2 + H2O + CO2
Mn(NO3)2 --> MnO2 + 2NO2
I know this would be an expensive alternative to purefy this,
But it would be a great expiriment.
bas12345654321 3 months ago
Do you mean the Kipkay video? His stuff is normally pretty legit, but I wouldn't try any of his "Battery Hacks" because he doesn't seem like he knows what he's talking about when it really comes down to it.
TheAlertHusky 3 months ago
awhh crap i broke it....i pissed my self laughing :D epic
PhilliumTalent 3 months ago
you sir, are a science DEITY
hindydranday 4 months ago
I was just curious as to weather the carbon rod is strong or not, also what are some applications for it?
oTruffles 4 months ago
What if the battery is used? How will the MnO2, zinc, and carbon be effected (or changed)?
AllAroundBang 4 months ago
i wish i could do it as fast as you can :(
billonicle 5 months ago
How The Fuck I Get Here? I Was Watching 'How To Make Dry Ice'!
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@ImLostProducitons I always have this comedy/action scene in mind where a talking dog is defusing a bomb with the help of someone over a radio...
Tech on radio: "OK now, cut the red wire!"
Dog: "CRAP!"
tybo09 5 months ago
Yhe large batteries are known as 'F-Cell' batteries.
91770158 7 months ago
that manganese dioxide stuff is like paint!!!!! it gets everywhere! :/
lutheranmusicstand 7 months ago
the battery in that "viral video" was alkaline. this is a carbon/zinc battery
flamingchucknorris 7 months ago
If you take apart alkaline you can get a steel casing, manganese, carbon rod, and zinc powder, (just be sure to wear gloves as alkaline batteries contain either KOH or NOH)
rbneville 7 months ago
can you obtaine de zinc from normal battery such as the AA ?
wazzup811 7 months ago
cool, i always dismantle them but didnt know what it was...and it actually works with a double A battery too.
TimothyOng98 7 months ago
how exactly do we filter it off? do we boil it?
swiftstalker 7 months ago
does it work with discharged batteries?
007agent0007 7 months ago
@LukeZX4 Me too!, what are you doing for yours? I'm doing galvanizing
SwitchBlitz 8 months ago
You sure seem to make alot of mistakes for someone that works with dangerous chemicals lol
james1997123 9 months ago
I have a question about something to whoever can answer. I first extracted the manganese dioxide from some D alkaline batteries. I then reacted it with excess HCl from the muriatic acid pool jug. I was trying to form pink MnCl2 as the reaction is supposed to produce but I want to understand what happened. The solution was dark green and I evaporated off the water and HCl until I collected a dark green powder. I want to know what it is and how I can get larger crystals
SecondAgeOfReason 9 months ago
@NurdRage plz reply i did this to get the zinc and electrodes but my question is what will happen if there is some mno2 left on the inside of the zinc but very very little ive used a scrub pad and still couldnt get it all off
HUsoldier171 10 months ago
@HUsoldier171
Try soaking it in bleach or something . . . .but if there's still some left, try cutting the casing open and re-cleaning it. If that fails, then give the inside one last good scrub and just take into account the small amount of contamination when using it for an experiment.
98JMA 9 months ago
the four 1.5 v bats. are called F cells and have very large life
thesmlp 10 months ago
I just need those carbon electrodes for electrolysis I am working on. many thanks.
UTubeisSHIT523441 10 months ago
haha. I actually used the same method to get what I need for my science fair project. The rods worked wonderfully as electrodes
LukeZX4 11 months ago 14
Fantastic, I just ripped one open and it means I don't have to buy zinc online.
679step 11 months ago
I have these batteries labeled "manganese". I want to know if they are C/Zn/MnO2 batteries before I rip them open.
evanperryg 11 months ago
haha the daneboe video?
enriqueification 11 months ago
If anyone is wondering what type of battery it is - it's an "4R25".
FrozenHaxor2 1 year ago
would you possibly sell off the carbon rods? i need about 12
TheMrmagnetophon 1 year ago
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EKOSMUNiDAD 1 year ago
dude your ovesome
MrLorum 1 year ago
Its not a fake viral it has to be the enegiser lanturn.. i really did it to find out. and durecell lanmturn had 4 d sizr baterys so you should correct that.
SmrtA55 1 year ago
@SmrtA55 An energizer lantern battery does not have 16-32 AA batteries.
NurdRage 1 year ago 69
@NurdRage whats in alkaline batteries?
AZMALING 10 months ago
@AZMALING Corrosive liquids.
threebuddies 8 months ago
@threebuddies like acids?
AZMALING 8 months ago
@AZMALING Yes. They are what caused some spots on my desk.
threebuddies 8 months ago
@threebuddies oh. thanks for the info. no wonder the plastic gloves i was using just corroded away .
AZMALING 8 months ago
@AZMALING Your welcome and I wasn't even taking it apart when i leaked i shorted it out in a battery holder.
threebuddies 8 months ago
@threebuddies oh.
AZMALING 8 months ago
@NurdRage it does
dominiks2486 1 month ago
@dominiks2486 It's painfully obvious you've never actually opened one yourself.
NurdRage 1 month ago 19
@NurdRage Hey, I got quite a bit of MnO2 on my hands..I think I've got it all off though. Do you think any harm has been done?
Picapacapopo 2 weeks ago
@Picapacapopo Well, Lets hope not because by now if it was harmful you might be missing a couple hands. Thanks to Nurd's aid, or not.
HitachiHenemaru 1 week ago
@HitachiHenemaru Hahahah. It's been a week and I haven't noticed anything bad happen so I'm probably fine lol.
Picapacapopo 1 week ago
@NurdRage I think @dominiks2486 is right! Actually they have one small magic unicorn inside which produces the electric current. Due to their size they are referred to as 16-32AA batties. ( 'Cos they bat their eyes at viewers). batteries is a common misnomer. @dominiks2486 has a big collection of them (Unicorns) so if you need them for some project give him a holler.
azzy314159 2 weeks ago
can i find zinc instead of that bateri
MrLorum 1 year ago
dude my english not so good im from israel... and sorry about the spam
iliya1997 1 year ago
@iliya1997 Time ago someone asked the same to him and he answered that that's his real voice not a make up.
miltonSF 1 year ago
@miltonSF cccccccooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllll XD lol
iliya1997 10 months ago
nurd rage why u r hiding ur voice????? no i dont have problems with it i just wanted to know........
iliya1997 1 year ago
@iliya1997 - because he may be making drugs or bobms for a living or certainly authorities might think that and ride his house confiscating all these precious thing he managed to collect. Being a amateur chemist is very risky, authorities wants you to be happy go lucky not knowing anything besides your job polite citizen.
madrazel 1 year ago
nurd rage why u r hiding ur voice????? no i dont have problems with it i just wanted to know........
iliya1997 1 year ago
I also have another question. What is a good way to clean your tools to get rid of the mno2 off them? I had to leave suddenly for a specific reason that isn't necessarily to explain here for a few hours. left the tools covered in the manganese and having a bit of a problem in cleaning them off and was wondering if there was some sort of solvent that would make cleaning them easier then using 409.
minraja 1 year ago
You can not get anywhere near pure maganese dioxide from a carbon zinc battery.
Apart from the electrolyte(ammonium chloride or zinc chloride).
There will also be a fraction of carbon black black mixed the maganese dioxide.
A typical zinc carbon battery would contain 70-80% of maganese dioxide by dry mass.
paidi000 1 year ago
Is there anyway to tell what the contaminants maybe if they are not listed?
minraja 1 year ago
wtf.
HeadShot360IN 1 year ago
PART 4: sorry not enough room.... after you rock and slide the handle out of the MnO2 and bring it out you will get the entire contents paper and all out, much faster and I find you get more out as the paper hangs on for all life and its beautiful. After doing this to two heavy batteries I was able to speed up the work, yeld more MnO2 about 810g total, and made paper removal super easy. I needed to share this as the vidoes are awesome thanks!!!!
DELGOTHA 1 year ago
PART 3:
This is an awesome tip and worked like a charm for me, to get the most out in gathering the MnO2, forget the screw driver, use the handle of a table spoon that you will not be able to ruturn to the kitchen so once in the lab it will never go back, anywho JAM THE HANDLE of the Table Spoon straight into the MnO2 while hugging the the side of the cell, works best this way, if you go in the middle it dont work, once at the bottom, pry the spoons handle towards the other wall and slide...
DELGOTHA 1 year ago
@DELGOTHA
Part 2, lol,,, 2: after seperating the large celled (4) batteries and you want to save the top and wiring on the carbon rod, forgot attempting to pull it out, instead use the needle nose plyers to roll back the zinc metal cells lip do this all around and you can access under the plastic top which this also makes cutting it no longer needed, use the needle nose players to grab the rod from under the plastic cap Final very helpful tip, running out of room, lol Part 3
DELGOTHA 1 year ago
Taking one of these things apart was a slow art in itself, however while doing it I took slow time and examined what I was doing and in a collective time of 2 hours I have some tricks that make it a bit easier. 1: There's no need to cut all the way around the top with a knife, just score one side and a cornor and by using wire cutters make a hole in the side, then use needle nose plyers to POP the top off. (running out of room lol so I will make a second comment....
DELGOTHA 1 year ago
hey nurdrage! how do i clean the zinc from the manganese dioxide excess on its walls? please keep making videos its freaking amazing!
Rulox999 1 year ago
hey nurdrage.. please ensure to caption all your videos, i am deaf and really enjoy watching your videos. but if there is no captions, then i would not enjoy it at all. thanks
meowmeow5 1 year ago
how do you wash zinc clean? does it not react with water in a violent kind-of explosive way?
upbeatanime 1 year ago
greetings following nerds .... i wanna play a game
gaussman08 1 year ago
NurdRage is Asian no surprise, look at the hands, his nails look like asian nails ;)
nicholasoghlaw 1 year ago
the external casing of those cell are made from zinc ?
hitachi088 1 year ago
i know this is off topic but is your voice that deep?
darkdragoon1000 1 year ago
@darkdragoon1000 Because he's epic :D
Dontscaremeplease 1 year ago
@Dontscaremeplease He's epicly awesome
darkdragoon1000 1 year ago
hehe, duty
russianrocker1 1 year ago
How do i store the MnO2?
97bosko 1 year ago
mine says Zinc chloride battery
extra heavy duty , will this work ?
zakamooza 1 year ago
I tried doing this with a d battery from the dollar store and it worked well. The only problem was I couldn't really clean out the zinc casing too well. Would it still be ok to use the zinc to make gold pennies if it is all dirty? If not where else can you find zinc because I have been looking all over
CaptainLauraSmith 1 year ago
i opened up one of these batteries, but its a real pain in the butt to have to clean out the MnO2 from the Zinc casing. is there a chemical that will make the cleaning process easier? preferably one thats OTC?
thefireisfun123 1 year ago
do you do much with electrolysis? (any videos?)
thundercomputer 1 year ago
I opened one battery I'dont know which one but in middle it was something gray and around that black stuff so is that black stuff mno2
megamarko94 1 year ago
Is there any way to turn manganese sulfate back into MnO2?
Because I was thinking, if you could make some manganese sulfate, get rid of most of the impurities, and then you could turn the manganese sulfate back into nearly pure manganese dioxide. Then you wouldn't have to get ripped off on the internet : P.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
If you want cheap zinc metal for chemistry experiments, you can also use U.S. pennies after 1982. You can obtain a surprising number of metals cheaply from coinage, including copper (pennies before 1982), silver (generic silver rounds, generally much cheaper than bars), and nickel (Canadian nickels before 1981, and most dimes/quarters).
FortNikitaBullion 1 year ago
@FortNikitaBullion If you want nickel, canadian 10 cents up to 1999 is a good source. 99.9%. After that, it became steel plated with nickel. Oh yeah, same deal with 25 cents.
vmelkon 1 year ago
any size eveready battery contain zink metal as the container isnt it?
MarlboroClassic 1 year ago
You forgot to say Rate And Comment :P
BooyaaPwned 1 year ago
cAN I FILL UP THE ZINC CASE WITH WATER SEAL IT UP AND MAKE A GRENADE W/ IT?
freiture 1 year ago
@BogMonkey53 use nickel. stainless steel features 'alright' chemical resistance, but it's not all that. I've managed to rot stainless using the reactive gases. the most chemically inert metal used for things like regulators on those gas cylinder is called Monel, and it's not iron based. It's mainly nickel (and the regulators are EXPENSIVE, £500 each). there's a guy on SciMad who's making big lumps of pure sodium from molten hydroxide (dissolves lab glass) using nickel as one of the electrodes
lexichronicle2 1 year ago
@BogMonkey53 oh, and if your tools are steel or iron based. you'll need to rinse them, a few times. preferably with warm water, to get all that acid back off. or they'll be covered in rust the next morning, or hours later
lexichronicle2 1 year ago
@BogMonkey53 dilute sulphuric acid will clean up the manganese. but these batteries are also loaded with activated carbon, which is pitch black, microscopic dust that sticks to everything. try the dilute acid (battery acid will work). I have it ALL OVER the place now because I've been experimenting with electroluminescent paints in response to the nurd and miss J. ellsworth. zinc sulphide from the casing (sulphuric & reduced with sulphur for pets), reduce MnO2 to Mn with carbon for the dopant.
lexichronicle2 1 year ago
can i use AA batteries?
denizepajes95 1 year ago
how do you move so fast
prototype9000 1 year ago
Nice voice... Batman!
Erev0s666 1 year ago
I did this with AAA battery just for try. I was need Zinc, and I found it. This is nice because on this way you can recicle your old batterys. Just if battery was used you have to clean the zinc verry good. But nice metod. Thanx NurdRage! Oh yea, if you need a website, I can help you! We are renting servers (hostings) so if you want it, I can give it to you for free, because I love your videos! Send me a message!
Ubojica6661 1 year ago
@BogMonkey53 lemon juice reacts with the MnO2 to make interesting ligands so lemon juice will work it's because of the citric acid
spotlightman1234 1 year ago
What happens if the manganese dioxide touches the zinc walls
ClockSociety64 1 year ago
did you experiment with shrooms as a kid? ha ha just kidding i dont mind your voice, and people that do know where to stick it
shidoink 1 year ago
The carbon electrode which i get from the zinc carbon battery can be pulled by a magnet. does it got so much iron from the process of making it?
Frresh123 1 year ago
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Frresh123 1 year ago
Oh... Crap I ripped off the top ROFLMAO
Rockflier 1 year ago
This type isnt sold in Brazil, can i open anyone that says zinc-carbon battery?
g3ov4n12 1 year ago
is this your normal voice or do you change ´the sound frequency, when recording your voice?
neovictorius 1 year ago
We all know how to grow crystals, both in small and larger forms, but just how did you get the CuSO4 that big?? I've tried and tried and tried, but always without success!!
98JMA 1 year ago
lmao Oh crap!....I broke off the top. i laughed pretty hard
TylerQuestionmark 1 year ago
I have only seen zinc carbon batteries twice in my life. Are zinc carbon batteries the same as carbon-zinc ones? I just want confirmation. And so when the battery becomes dead, I can open it up and salvage the materials? What about if it's brand new? and btw, lol "Oh.. Crap."
Alain34nage 1 year ago
it was a joke xD
imvu10 1 year ago
@imvu10
No it's not! You're a joke! I did this and it works! And NurdRage always tells the truth!
hardwarerob1 1 year ago
@hardwarerob1 i mean the joke for the battery this one guy opened the battery and found a crap load of AA battery.
imvu10 1 year ago
@imvu10
Oh, sorry.
hardwarerob1 1 year ago
@hardwarerob1 p.s i know NurdRage is a scientist. xD Please go fuck yourself !
imvu10 1 year ago
Good videos, you are a master of chemistry
TsunamiBeta50 1 year ago
Hey Nurdrage, what tool do you recommend to scoop out the crude Manganese Dioxide? I've found it's rather well-packed in there? Any technique too?
Thanks!
pyropakman 1 year ago
The Dawn of Nations advert just gets hotter and hotter...
sverror 1 year ago
lol i opened a duricell 6 volt and it had 4 D batterys in side!!!
RocketMan291 1 year ago
Can I clean the rods off just using water?
xxemagxx 1 year ago
If you were to get little amounts of manganese dioxide into your blood or into a cut what will happen? because i accidently ripped off the top and tried cutting off the plastic top and it wasnt bleeding alot and it didnt show the cut and *i just remembered i forgot to where gloves ;(. then when i was removing the paper bits from the MnO2 it bled and the cut was huge!!!!. so what will happen? i cleaned it with water and the bleeding stopped and everything. its close to trace amounts tho.
IxUNTOUCHBLExI 1 year ago
i tried this with an AAA battery that said heavy duty and it also said that it contained lead. i opened it cause im way too curious to leave it lol. but i forgot the gloves part but i washed my hands thourougly afterwards. so now im stuck with 2 questions:
1. where is the lead? (i only found the zinc casing a carbon rod,MnO2 and some plastic but not lead :O)
2. am i screwed cause i didnt use gloves?
many thanks :D
uut0 1 year ago 8
@uut0 The lead is in the manganese dioxide and in the zinc. the zinc is naturally contaminated with lead. The manganese dioxide got it's lead from the manufacturing process that used lead electrodes, a tiny amount of lead shavings come off when the manganese dioxide is separated from the electrode. A small amount of lead may also be natural depending on the source of MnO2.
You are not screwed, but don't do it again.
NurdRage 1 year ago 13
@NurdRage ah i see thanks :D
uut0 1 year ago
@uut0 the nurd is correct, but I would add an extra caution. lead on it's own as a solid bit of metal isn't very dangerous. it is very dangerous when it's in a salt form (because salts dissolve in water, and your body is mainly water). some batteries do contain acidic electrolytes and salts. on your hands, it's not going to instantly absorb through and kill you, but it will tend to stick to your hands, which then end up on your sandwich, near your mouth or up your nose (order of events variable)
lexichronicle2 1 year ago
i just got carbon zinc batteries and now tonight i will cut one open. it doesnt say carbon zinc, but it says "heavy duty" on the battery.
61slugbug 1 year ago
indian power?
champion8312 1 year ago
@hugestomper Actually there is no mercury involved with this type of battery at all. However it used to be present in a lot of the older "coin cell" batteries.
AgentCROCODILE 2 years ago
i tried this. can anyone tell me why the cardon electrode is slightly magnetic?
odd, no?
eutectics 2 years ago
Also there is a layer of ammonium chloride close to the mangnese(IV) oxide.
Quantum1mind 2 years ago
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i like kipkay alot better... the voice isnt so wierd...
dragonslayx7 2 years ago
I agree kipkay is great, i can't hope to beat him, but he doesn't do chemistry, so i gotta fill the gap.
As for the voice, i've put subtitles on most of the videos, you can turn those on and turn off the sound.
NurdRage 2 years ago 2
I'd rather you any day, Dr. Butyl Lithium ;)
TuneMaestro 2 years ago 2
As would I.
mtflyer05 2 years ago
@NurdRage Is that in fact your actual voice though?
FearTheReaper23 2 years ago
@FearTheReaper23 ye right dumbfuck.
Serostern 2 years ago
@dragonslayx7 Booooooooo! Nurdrage is awesome!
quarkphotonect 1 year ago
@dragonslayx7 kipkay is cool, and his voice is cooler. All in all, though, I think NurdRage has better experiments. Also, NurdRage's voice, though not cool, is not a detractor.
Hiei102493 1 year ago
oh nvm that was the inch tthick seal o_O
jvcrules 2 years ago
my mno2 looks like obsidian and feels like hard rubber. maybe its cuz my battery was old and leaking?
jvcrules 2 years ago
lol I wan't able to open mine with a knife so I got angry and threw it from a height on to concrete :P. That got it open and only slightly dented one cell
mewrox99 2 years ago
Would it be possible to react H2SO4 with sugar to produce Carbon and then somehow condense the carbon into a solid rod to be used as an electrode?
512Airsoft 2 years ago
yes, but you'd have to wash it. idk how you'd get it into a rod though, the rods are really hard. I'd compare it to aluminum, although not quite as hard and its not maleable at all.
freakin1random 2 years ago
Just buy pencils and sharpen them on both sides.
Hellghast007 2 years ago
What if I just wanted the carbon electrode (ie. for water electrolysis with epsom salt as the electrolyte) without the zinc or the MnO2, would I be able to just use a graphite rod from a pencil, instead of destroying the battery?
neoYTPism 2 years ago
yes, idk about the electrolysis, i didn't even think about it yet. You can use graphite as an electrode. they do breakdown btw, you'll need the right voltage. I just did this btw, its really easy to do.
freakin1random 2 years ago
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neoYTPism 2 years ago
Do you know what the "right voltage" for pencil graphite is? @ freakin1random
neoYTPism 2 years ago
no, but the carbon rods in this video are used in a 1.5 volt battery. I'd start there. Also, i used 45 volts for electrolysis with graphite. It smoked in the air. I'd say you should start from around 1.5 volts to 12. 6v may also be good, as the rods came from a 6v battery. They shouldn't decompose tooo much btw. buy some salt and some mechanical pencil lead and try it out before you try it with whatever you want to use them for. It may vary depending on solution.
freakin1random 2 years ago
Hey Nurdrage- excellent video!
Question though: can I use the carbon electrodes for electrolysis experiments? Chlorate or bromate synthesis, from chlorides/bromides, for example?
pyropakman 2 years ago
@pyropakman
I haven't tried them yet for that, i would assume the erosion would be pretty high. But if you want to give it a shot go for it and report to me the results. :)
NurdRage 2 years ago
@NurdRage: Update: erosion is considerable, but you can filter it through. I'm in the process of making the manganous sulfate from one of your more recent videos, as a proof-of-concept experiment such that I can make my own, more stable anodes (as you have in the other video).
But that being said, a carbon rod works well as an anode. At 5 V and 700 mA, the part submerged in the liquid will wear away after a few days, but not egregiously so. For 3.00 for a battery, that's 75 cents per anode. :)
pyropakman 1 year ago
@NurdRage would it work with water electrolysis?
captainofpineapples 1 year ago
You forgot one thing: There is carbon powder added to the MnO2 to increase its conductivity. I exploit this when I pyrolyze the MnO2 to Mn because the extra carbon helps reduce it.
zhmapper 2 years ago
@zhmapper
I didn't forget, i have an upcoming purification where i explain the issue more thoroughly.
But yeah, i should have made a brief mention in this video the carbon was there.
NurdRage 2 years ago
does the battery have to be new or used up?
panzuman 2 years ago
myh battery had like some kind of thick, really hard stuff , dont know what its called in english but used for making roads lol, its a pain to get through that layer, but after that theres the mno2
thoosejakob149 2 years ago
whoa,and i saw another video coming after this one,the title is ''Make Potassium Permanganate (sort of...)''
hell12aienmafirehell 2 years ago
can mno2 be ignited like potassium nitrate ? and burn fast ? whhen i have boiled the water away
thoosejakob149 2 years ago
carbon-zinc, heavy duty or that stuff.. if you can find on a AA or AAA battery.. then look for a light weight battery or one that says ''R6'' and then 1 letter more.. then you can be quite sure its having these 3 things in (= electrode, mno2 and zinc.. theyre not as common as the alkaline batteries
antiswattt2 2 years ago
electricity from carbon that's weird please explain this to me
ma356289 2 years ago
is that battery corosive
pyroman4813 2 years ago
OF COURSE THE SUBSTANCE IN CERTAIN TYPES OF COMMON HOUSEHOLD BATTERIES IS REMARKABLE SIMILAR TO CHLORAMINE, WHICH IS USED TO CHEMICALLY CONSTRUCT HYDRAZINE. Which as any true nerd knows is rocket fuel. Q: how much hydrazine did it take to get man to the moon.
9daywonda 2 years ago
The Saturn V moon rocket ran on kerosene and liquid oxygen in the first stage, and liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen in the upper stages.
Cadwaladr 2 years ago
what a weird battery! xD
Jajeczkownia 2 years ago