Manuel rolling out, and being in the shotgun definitely helped. I think he should play in the shotgun more often. And he should also trust his receivers more.
Best Secondary in college. Top 5 Defense in college, Offense, Sigh, Can Greg Reid go both ways? lol just jk. Anyway, I can't wait for 2012, Ej, u better man up and run that shiz, its your team and its full of talent, do what u gotta do, don't do stupid crap like u did in the Okie game, just play the game and make plays and i promise we will be better than fine, Anyway, FSU is my team and it has been since 92. Go NOLES BABY!!!
Karlos Williams is 2nd string safety behind parks he did not play in this game because he broke his wrist and was out next year he will be starting on defense
Los needs to be a safety PERIOD.....he is a playmaker in the secondary.....him and Joyner is almost unfair.....we're fine at WR with Greene, Green, Shaw, Bracy, Rodney, Dent, Haggins, Benjamin, Haulstead
@RajonRondoShow Benjamin isnt close to ready to contribute. Karlos came in way behind in pass coverage and has since been passed up by brooks in that aspect. I'm not saying he cant get there but in the meantime he's too athletic to use in a backup/ST role for another whole season. Getting him some touches would only benefit our team as he has the best size to speed combo on the team.
@Gunnz287 Parks sucks. I have heard rumor that Terrance Brooks will join Joyner at safety and Karlos Williams could move to WR which could be fun to watch. That size/speed combo doesnt exist anywhere else on this team and rarely anywhere else in the country.
@cerebralfish1 But the wide-receiving unit will be deep as it stands right now. I would rather see him and Joyner as the starting safeties. Los would wreck shop at WR but i think Los/Frankenstein safety tandem will intimidate a lot of offenses..
@Jagnole101 Its been rumored the offense has wanted him all year and right now Brooks gets the minutes at backup safety over LOS because he's better right now. So that leaves, possibly the most athletic guy on the team as a backup safety next year? Ive heard from some FSU sites he could be phased into the offense.
@cerebralfish1 Phased into the offense? To play where? Behind Haulstead ( if he returns) Rod Smith, Rashad Greene, Christian Green, Kenny Shaw, Greg Dent, Scooter Haggins and Kelvin Benjamin? I believe Brooks takes over for Mike Harris in 2012 getting snaps at Corner and Nickle. Especially if Rhodes and Reid leave early. Los just needs time. He didn't play alot of coverage in High School. He was playing down in the box cracking heads alot. He'll come around. He was only a Frosh.
@WestheLegend Reid isnt going anywhere. He's a return man at best in the NFL and there's no way he's an NFL CB. KB isnt anywhere near ready to play as he is very raw. Williams has more to offer right now than Dent or Haggins. Haulstead and Rodney Smith have reached their ceiling. Theyre both average WRs although Haulstead is physical. None of the players I mentioned have the explosive athletic ability/ceiling LOS has. He also played a lot of WR in high school. Might not happen but could.
@WestheLegend Also if it starts looking like Los has another year in the back up role, he is too talented to have on the sidelines and on ST. He needs to be on the field with the ball in his hands.
@WestheLegend He can just come in on a few packages. Maybe add him into some read option or reverse looks. We could even just get him into some bubble screens to get him in space. I dont think he would be an every down WR, but when he's on the field the defense will have to account for him.
@cerebralfish1 I just couldn't disagree with you more. Obviously, it's the mental aspect of the game that's eluding him. So what do you do? You ADD more on top of him by making him run and learn plays on offense...AND defense? No. No WAY. Either he's ALL offense or ALL defense. No packages, no special routes. Nothing. We NEED depth at Saftey. Literally, when you're playing Parks or Moody, that's not good for a team looking to be elite. Los will get his shot in 2012. On Defense.
@WestheLegend He will be backup safety on defense next year most likely unless he improves significantly in coverage. He tons or WR and RB in a zone read scheme in high school so he doesnt have to learn much at all to get some touches on O. I agree we need depth at safety and as I said he will be a backup safety. I just think he is too dynamic a playmaker to not find a way to get him on the field with the ball in his hands. Brooks and Joyner will be the starting safeties barring injury.
@cerebralfish1 Ummm, did you forget we have a playbook on offense too? If he switched to offense he would have wasted an entire year filling his head with the defensive plays, signals, fundamentals, etc. Why not have Brooks and Joyner at safety, then in a nickel formation move Brooks back down to nickleback and have LOS fill his spot?
@904austin We will probably see some 3 safety looks next year at which point LOS will be fine at safety. My point is that right now he has a lot of catching up to do as Joyner and Brooks get the nod right now in the base defense. I'm not saying LOS cant play defense. I'm just saying he's better with the ball in his hands than almost anybody on our team with the exception of R Greene, and maybe G5 but thats comparing apples and oranges.
@WestheLegend I get lots of info from Tomahawk Nation but not the 3 safety thing. We just happen to have much more depth at safety than LB. Telvin Smith is even a hyrbrid pretty much so that gives us LOS, Brooks, Joyner, and Telvin. At LB CJ7, Luc hopefully? We're thin there so we dont have much of a choice.
@cerebralfish1 I dunno about Telvin as saftey. that's a bit crazy. With our big ass Dline punishing all the Oline like they do, Telvin can just run thru and bust up RB's and QB's, which is awesome to watch. Dude is beast. I'd play that guy on the outside, maybe put Luc in the middle? I have yet to see Luc live up to the hype. Christian Jones is the best guy we have, maybe one of the best in the nation. That helps.
@cerebralfish1 I think Williams is a senior this year if I'm not mistaken. More than likely he will get the nod at MLB. I'm not sure what's up with Jeff Luc, he'll be a junior in 2012. I would hate to see him not pan out, but when he gets in the game he just looks awkward and anything but comfortable.
@WestheLegend Luc will need to be instinctive to become really good. He's doesnt have length or great speed. He's just strong as hell. I'm not sure he has a nose for the ball, but I'll give him next year before I form an opinion.
@904austin LOS reportedly will start the spring on offense. There is a good article on tomahawknation talking about the move. I like it. It's better to have your best athletes on the field which likely wasnt going to be the case for LOS at safety next year.
@WestheLegend tomahawknation posted an article today suggesting that its likely LOS will go into spring as an offensive player. I like the move as he is our most explosive athlete with the ball in his hands.
@cerebralfish1 As a what? WR/RB/TE...?Maybe like him and Greene on the outside, Shaw/Dent/Haggins/Green in the slot. That could be nasty. Terrence Brooks must be owning him at the saftey position, coaches just want him on the field getting touches.
@WestheLegend Its looking like WR/H-back. He might see some wildcat packages. He was WR/RB on offense in high school. Terrance Brooks got signifigant snaps at safety last year while LOS earned zero. Our safety depth is fine with Joyner, Brooks, Bright and Demps. Karlos is by far the most dynamic athlete on the team so I agree with the push to get him touches as a guy like that can help us more at WR than backup safety.
@cerebralfish1 At first I didn't wanna see Karlos go to the O...but when you look back at this season, the defense was DOMINANT. The O? ehhhhhh not so much, If he can really give the team a spark then I don't see why not give the kid a shot I suppose. I really liked what I saw from T. Brooks this year too, I think he's actually going to be a pretty good saftey, Lamarcus will obviously make him look better too, being the player he is.
Manuel rolling out, and being in the shotgun definitely helped. I think he should play in the shotgun more often. And he should also trust his receivers more.
Jagnole101 4 days ago
lou holtz was so sad after this game lol
happypedro12 4 days ago
Best Secondary in college. Top 5 Defense in college, Offense, Sigh, Can Greg Reid go both ways? lol just jk. Anyway, I can't wait for 2012, Ej, u better man up and run that shiz, its your team and its full of talent, do what u gotta do, don't do stupid crap like u did in the Okie game, just play the game and make plays and i promise we will be better than fine, Anyway, FSU is my team and it has been since 92. Go NOLES BABY!!!
tahmia1230 3 weeks ago
@tahmia1230 As long as the oline is healthy everything will be cool.
Gunnz287 3 weeks ago
Shaun Powell... fcking chill at 8:55
brantley847 1 month ago
@brantley847 That isn't Powell, it's Derek Williams #44, a frosh P.
Gunnz287 1 month ago
@Gunnz287 Nice...
I said chill...look at the bench to your left. The only guy sitting down lookin like a friggin Boss. Yes. That is Powell. I know who Williams is..
brantley847 1 month ago
The defense won the last 2 games for us period. Offense is pathetic right now.
jneil2007 1 month ago
Karlos Williams is 2nd string safety behind parks he did not play in this game because he broke his wrist and was out next year he will be starting on defense
help850 1 month ago
Los needs to be a safety PERIOD.....he is a playmaker in the secondary.....him and Joyner is almost unfair.....we're fine at WR with Greene, Green, Shaw, Bracy, Rodney, Dent, Haggins, Benjamin, Haulstead
RajonRondoShow 1 month ago
@RajonRondoShow Benjamin isnt close to ready to contribute. Karlos came in way behind in pass coverage and has since been passed up by brooks in that aspect. I'm not saying he cant get there but in the meantime he's too athletic to use in a backup/ST role for another whole season. Getting him some touches would only benefit our team as he has the best size to speed combo on the team.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@RajonRondoShow LOS is all but officially moving to offense this spring.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
I know you're going to make an EJ highlight of this game, right?
Gunnz287 1 month ago
@Gunnz287 ....what EJ highlights? the 3 throws where Rashad bailed him out? only HL he has is the throw to Bert.
RajonRondoShow 1 month ago
@RajonRondoShow He completed 20 (64%) passes. And i remember seeing a vicious stiff arm to #44..just off the top of my head
Gunnz287 1 month ago
Go Noles!
SUPERFSUNOLE 1 month ago
13:03= ARM PUNT
brad71forfsu 1 month ago
And that last play sums up T. Parks career at FSU...good luck and good riddems to him...
Gunnz287 1 month ago
@Gunnz287 I said the same thing as I was watching the game.
NolesBlogger 1 month ago
@Gunnz287 Parks sucks. I have heard rumor that Terrance Brooks will join Joyner at safety and Karlos Williams could move to WR which could be fun to watch. That size/speed combo doesnt exist anywhere else on this team and rarely anywhere else in the country.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 But the wide-receiving unit will be deep as it stands right now. I would rather see him and Joyner as the starting safeties. Los would wreck shop at WR but i think Los/Frankenstein safety tandem will intimidate a lot of offenses..
Gunnz287 1 month ago
@Gunnz287 It would but there is a reason why Brooks has gotten the extra pt at safety this year. He's better than LOS right now at that position.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 Oh yeah, Brooks is definitely better right now because of time in position mostly.
Gunnz287 1 month ago
@Gunnz287 LOS is reportedly moving to offense this spring. I will like seeing him with the ball in his hands. He is our most dynamic athlete.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 I would love to see Greg Reid also get cracks at offense! So where did you hear Karlos might get to play WR next year?
Jagnole101 1 month ago
@Jagnole101 Its been rumored the offense has wanted him all year and right now Brooks gets the minutes at backup safety over LOS because he's better right now. So that leaves, possibly the most athletic guy on the team as a backup safety next year? Ive heard from some FSU sites he could be phased into the offense.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 Phased into the offense? To play where? Behind Haulstead ( if he returns) Rod Smith, Rashad Greene, Christian Green, Kenny Shaw, Greg Dent, Scooter Haggins and Kelvin Benjamin? I believe Brooks takes over for Mike Harris in 2012 getting snaps at Corner and Nickle. Especially if Rhodes and Reid leave early. Los just needs time. He didn't play alot of coverage in High School. He was playing down in the box cracking heads alot. He'll come around. He was only a Frosh.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend Reid isnt going anywhere. He's a return man at best in the NFL and there's no way he's an NFL CB. KB isnt anywhere near ready to play as he is very raw. Williams has more to offer right now than Dent or Haggins. Haulstead and Rodney Smith have reached their ceiling. Theyre both average WRs although Haulstead is physical. None of the players I mentioned have the explosive athletic ability/ceiling LOS has. He also played a lot of WR in high school. Might not happen but could.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@WestheLegend Also if it starts looking like Los has another year in the back up role, he is too talented to have on the sidelines and on ST. He needs to be on the field with the ball in his hands.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 I think FSU gives him his Soph year to win a starting job at saftey.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend agreed but I dont see him on the sideline all year if he isnt the starter at safety. I wouldnt be surprised to get some wr reps.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 I'm not sure if he can't understand coverages how he can run routes to break them down on offense.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend He can just come in on a few packages. Maybe add him into some read option or reverse looks. We could even just get him into some bubble screens to get him in space. I dont think he would be an every down WR, but when he's on the field the defense will have to account for him.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 I just couldn't disagree with you more. Obviously, it's the mental aspect of the game that's eluding him. So what do you do? You ADD more on top of him by making him run and learn plays on offense...AND defense? No. No WAY. Either he's ALL offense or ALL defense. No packages, no special routes. Nothing. We NEED depth at Saftey. Literally, when you're playing Parks or Moody, that's not good for a team looking to be elite. Los will get his shot in 2012. On Defense.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend He will be backup safety on defense next year most likely unless he improves significantly in coverage. He tons or WR and RB in a zone read scheme in high school so he doesnt have to learn much at all to get some touches on O. I agree we need depth at safety and as I said he will be a backup safety. I just think he is too dynamic a playmaker to not find a way to get him on the field with the ball in his hands. Brooks and Joyner will be the starting safeties barring injury.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 Ummm, did you forget we have a playbook on offense too? If he switched to offense he would have wasted an entire year filling his head with the defensive plays, signals, fundamentals, etc. Why not have Brooks and Joyner at safety, then in a nickel formation move Brooks back down to nickleback and have LOS fill his spot?
904austin 1 month ago
@904austin We will probably see some 3 safety looks next year at which point LOS will be fine at safety. My point is that right now he has a lot of catching up to do as Joyner and Brooks get the nod right now in the base defense. I'm not saying LOS cant play defense. I'm just saying he's better with the ball in his hands than almost anybody on our team with the exception of R Greene, and maybe G5 but thats comparing apples and oranges.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 3 saftey look? You've been listening to Bud and Ingram huh? Lol
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend I get lots of info from Tomahawk Nation but not the 3 safety thing. We just happen to have much more depth at safety than LB. Telvin Smith is even a hyrbrid pretty much so that gives us LOS, Brooks, Joyner, and Telvin. At LB CJ7, Luc hopefully? We're thin there so we dont have much of a choice.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 I dunno about Telvin as saftey. that's a bit crazy. With our big ass Dline punishing all the Oline like they do, Telvin can just run thru and bust up RB's and QB's, which is awesome to watch. Dude is beast. I'd play that guy on the outside, maybe put Luc in the middle? I have yet to see Luc live up to the hype. Christian Jones is the best guy we have, maybe one of the best in the nation. That helps.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend CJ7 is so athletic and rangy its insane. Hes a 1st rounder when he comes out. Didnt V. Williams graduate?
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 I think Williams is a senior this year if I'm not mistaken. More than likely he will get the nod at MLB. I'm not sure what's up with Jeff Luc, he'll be a junior in 2012. I would hate to see him not pan out, but when he gets in the game he just looks awkward and anything but comfortable.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend Luc will need to be instinctive to become really good. He's doesnt have length or great speed. He's just strong as hell. I'm not sure he has a nose for the ball, but I'll give him next year before I form an opinion.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@904austin LOS reportedly will start the spring on offense. There is a good article on tomahawknation talking about the move. I like it. It's better to have your best athletes on the field which likely wasnt going to be the case for LOS at safety next year.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@WestheLegend 'ran' tons 'of'
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@WestheLegend tomahawknation posted an article today suggesting that its likely LOS will go into spring as an offensive player. I like the move as he is our most explosive athlete with the ball in his hands.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 As a what? WR/RB/TE...?Maybe like him and Greene on the outside, Shaw/Dent/Haggins/Green in the slot. That could be nasty. Terrence Brooks must be owning him at the saftey position, coaches just want him on the field getting touches.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend Its looking like WR/H-back. He might see some wildcat packages. He was WR/RB on offense in high school. Terrance Brooks got signifigant snaps at safety last year while LOS earned zero. Our safety depth is fine with Joyner, Brooks, Bright and Demps. Karlos is by far the most dynamic athlete on the team so I agree with the push to get him touches as a guy like that can help us more at WR than backup safety.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
@cerebralfish1 At first I didn't wanna see Karlos go to the O...but when you look back at this season, the defense was DOMINANT. The O? ehhhhhh not so much, If he can really give the team a spark then I don't see why not give the kid a shot I suppose. I really liked what I saw from T. Brooks this year too, I think he's actually going to be a pretty good saftey, Lamarcus will obviously make him look better too, being the player he is.
WestheLegend 1 month ago
@WestheLegend Terrence Brooks is extremely good and he just scratched the surface this year.
cerebralfish1 1 month ago
That stiff arm administered by EJ on #44 at 6:42 was nasty
Gunnz287 1 month ago
Helluva stick on 3rd and 3 by Jones at 1:47 on Riddick to force the punt...
Gunnz287 1 month ago
Thanks man.
LetsGetShaytarded 1 month ago
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RajonRondoShow 1 month ago
thank you!!!!!!!!!!
FLAST4LIFE 1 month ago
BEST THING ABOUT THE VIDEO IS ALL THE DIFFERENT NAMES CALLED ON DEFENSE......LOTS OF PLAYMAKERS, DEEPER NEXT YEAR
RajonRondoShow 1 month ago 4
@RajonRondoShow We're only getting better and deeper bro. Especially after all the studs we recruited
nole4life2671 3 weeks ago