If Sonic changes and loses everything that made him fun originally, he is not Sonic anymore.
Sega's been experimenting with two many pointless gimmicks: shooters, fishing, brawlers, guns and cars, treasure hunting, etc... Get back to the good old speed and platforming. I liked the daytime stages in Unleashed, but the werehog was really bad. It should be speed and platforming, not slow clunky platforming with an overdose of brawling against recycled enemies.
Right, cause sonic never experimented with combative gameplay with a slower character, EVER *coughsonic3cough*. And I'm tired of this "Ahhhh the werehog sucksssss" stuff. Look at it as a NEW concept, it's actually fun gameplay if you're good at it. I think the main problem with the werehog is too many people suck ass at it.
In Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, Tales and Knuckles controlled almost exactly like Sonic. They could both run fast and spin dash, but they had slightly different abilities. Only slightly different. The game was still about speed and platforming. Sega has experimented with fishing,shooting, treasure hunting, brawling, guns and cars, etc in Sonic games and all have strayed from the tried and true formula of speed and platforming for something inferior.
And many people do. So why not give people the option to play more werehog levels, or to just play the sonic ones? It's just giving us more content. So tell me which is better, giving only sonic levels and disappointing the werehog fans, or giving sonic and the werehog and satisfying all fans?
Severe minority. Most people say the werehog is the gimmick that destroyed this game. Just watch any video review of it on youtube and look up reader reviews of the game. I've never seen one person who hasn't said that the werehog levels are poorly constructed, with clunky controls, bad camera, and levels that drag on for too long. The werehog is evil. We just want Sonic, no pointless gimmicks. At least 98% of people feel that way.
Haha 98%? About half the people find it OKAY. Most reviewers that aren't from IGN or Gamespot think that it's at the very least tolerable. There are thousands of people who like the werehog levels more, mostly people who have never played sonic, but a significant amount none the less. Plus, why let perfectly fun levels go to waste?
About half the people will put up with the werehog because they want to play the daytime levels. The werehog is slow and clunky. The camera is bad (and at important times you can't even adjust it), the drop-shadow disappears a lot of the time. The fighting is repetitive, and that enemy encounter music is annoying. This does not belong in a Sonic game. Sonic games are supposed to be about speed and platforming, not brawling. The platforming they did put in is flawed, slow, and boring.
Calm down, we have different views, ok? I never said I liked the werehog levels more, but there are people who do, and you have to respect that, because your comment won't change anything anyway.
I think after all the crap that Sega's put us through lately in Sonic games is proof enough that if we do not voice our complaints, nothing will change. Games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06 are disgraces. And there hasn't been one good 3D Sonic game in years. I want Sonic games to be good again. Unfortunately, Sega seems more concerned with mass producing games to make bank on 'em. That's why we get sloppy, bug-filled, unpolished games
Yeah, if you're so great, go ahead and make a fucking sonic game. That's right, you CAN'T. Even if some people don't like unleashed, at least respect all the hard work sega put into it.
The current Sonic Team has failed to do any justice to the hedgehog. Why do you think Unleashed was full of framerate sags, bugs, and sloppy controls? Because Sega was developing three Sonic games at the same time (Black Knight, Unleashed Wii, and Unleashed 360). If they had pulled their teams together, we might have an epic Sonic title. Unfortunately, they opted for mass-producing games again at the expense of quality. They don't care about quality of the games as long as they sell.
Helllloooo again. Also, your copy of the game must be FUCKED. Framerate sags are far and few between, and the controls are great considering sonic's acceleration and speed. And Sonic team was making 1 sonic game at a time... Sonic Team split into two groups, sonic unleashed, and sonic and the black knight. Then DIMPS worked on Sonic Unleashed Wii. Also, look at this game and tell me that they didn't put all they had into this game. Once again, at LEAST respect the detail of the game.
Play Daytime Empire City and Adabat and then tell me there are few framerate sags.
If this is all Sonic Team is capable of, well okay I'll forgive them for that atrocious werehog as long as they move on and focus on Sonic gameplay. Sonic is the staple. Sonic games should be at least 75% Sonic. Too much werehog. And the controls and camera are still annoying in the werehog levels. If I wanted a brawling game, I'd buy one. I want a Sonic game when I buy a Sonic game.
so you're saying that they rate sonic games 1/10 just because they don't want sonic to change and because of the retards that don't know how to play. and most reviewers show them playing the game but they say this button is unresponsive but they pull some piece o crap thing like use the "unresponsive" button to get themselves killed. how come when Mario changes it doesn't suck? or metroid? or zelda? or other nintendo titles? face it. sonic will change and there's nothing u can do about it.
And why dlc levels suck? its not like they want u to waste money and time on these games. they actually put in a lot of effort in these games and they show it by graphics and speed and the fur on sonic at night. and the dlc levels will be annoying but when you get into it its actually fun so stop your blabbing and why do you even play or buy games you think is horrible? u just started blabbing like a mental retard telling us how horrible the game is. complain to sega not us or sell the game.
No, the controls in Sonic Unleashed could definitely be a lot better. You learn to adjust to them, but Sonic is still a little too slippery and heavy for my liking. With good controls, there shouldn't even be a period of "adjustment". The framerate also drops a LOT in the last few levels and especially during Werehog stuff.
Plenty of framerate drops in Adabat, Empire City, and Eggmanland. And the final boss is probably one of the worst bosses I've ever played. You can't tell me you didn't think that Gaia Colussus was a piece of crap. It was so damn slow. And Super Sonic was a tiny dot on the screen trying to kill snake heads.
The controls are bad. While Sonic is fast, he can't corner very well at all. The werehog can't jump for beans and he walks, climbs, and does everything slow. Way to sap the speed out of SONIC
No, I stated my arguments clearly. You're the one "blabbing." As a true Sonic fan, I want Sonic to return to his glory by recovering what made the classics so awesome. That's why I complain about that werehog.
The DLC levels are either too short or level remakes for the most part. And that blows monkey farts.
Metroid, Mario, and Zelda have never strayed from their roots. Core gameplay has remained the same. Even their transition into 3d was flawless, and they have given us some of the most imaginative and fun games ever. Sonic's games have been mass-produced and have strayed from their roots with too many pointless gimmicks. Sonic used to be about two things--platforming and speed. It should stay that way. No brawlers, treasure hunters, guns, fishing, etc.
I agree with you. IGN for example, knows NOTHING of what is good for Sonic. Sonic will change and people should STFU and try to like them, The Werehog has nothing wrong with it since they were going for a brawler. Sonic has changed and i like it.
It's a fact that Sonic has fallen into the abyss. Game critics realize it. Sonic fans realize it. Even those diehard fans who still buy these mediocre titles realize that Sonic is nothing compared to what he used to be. My comments may not change anything, but if people like you continue defending all this mediocre garbage, we'll never get a good Sonic game again. Sega needs to take a lesson from Nintendo:take time on games to make them quality(that's why Zelda, Mario, and Metroid are still hot)
dude, you sound like a complete retard right now. 1st of all, this is their FIRST time using the hedgehog engine. of course its not going to be perfect.
2nd of all, the game critics are a bunch of noobs who gave up on the game for the 1st 10 minutes and decided to give a crappy review. 3rd of all, a lot of sonic fans like the 3d sonic games. Its just people like you who are living in the past and cant accept the fact that sonic is 3d now. They just added the werehog as a twist.
Yeah, but why werehog? It's not even a good brawler. I've never played such an irritating mixture of clunky platforming and pointless brawling sections. Unfortunately, Sonic "fans" still buy Sonic games no matter how retarded the games get. Games as horrible as Shadow and 06 still make bank. That basically gives Sega the okay to mass produced half-assed games full of unresponsive controls, slow-down, bad camera angles, and horrible story lines because people still buy that garbage.
Okay sure, haven't played enough SA2 to know how shit his levels are, but night stages are exactly the same thing as the SA1 levels. Except the gliding and so on.
I'm just thinking. Going around, collecting medals, punching monsters? Sonic Unleashed could very well be Sonic & Knuckles 2 in my head.
I know but naming Sonic Unleashed 2, Sonic & Knuckles 2 won't make it magically better.
Also Sonic & Knuckles is a disappointing sequel to Sonic 3, while Sonic 3 & Knuckles is one of genesis finer moments, Sonic and Knuckles alone is a forgettable game.
And Knuckles gaming is one of the worst areas of the adventure series, much much much worse than the werehog. I'll rather had Sonic Unleashed 2 that tarnished the name of a Classic by making Sonic & Knuckles 2.
Okay, I'm no good at this, but at least agree that they can't be conservative when it comes to characters. I hate how they must include a new character in order to tell a new story, when the old ones should be enough.
But of course, you can surely smash my logic here too.
Yep you got the Fang, but what I say stand true though and Sonic games introduced a new Character on every game since the very first game I would be surprised if the didn't.
werehogs better than hedgehog
EmeraldQueen2000 5 months ago
This is one of the better stages for the werehog.. the platforming is fun
yvaaar 2 years ago
If sonic doesn't change he will get boring
imageeyo 2 years ago
If Sonic changes and loses everything that made him fun originally, he is not Sonic anymore.
Sega's been experimenting with two many pointless gimmicks: shooters, fishing, brawlers, guns and cars, treasure hunting, etc... Get back to the good old speed and platforming. I liked the daytime stages in Unleashed, but the werehog was really bad. It should be speed and platforming, not slow clunky platforming with an overdose of brawling against recycled enemies.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
Right, cause sonic never experimented with combative gameplay with a slower character, EVER *coughsonic3cough*. And I'm tired of this "Ahhhh the werehog sucksssss" stuff. Look at it as a NEW concept, it's actually fun gameplay if you're good at it. I think the main problem with the werehog is too many people suck ass at it.
glem3 2 years ago
In Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, Tales and Knuckles controlled almost exactly like Sonic. They could both run fast and spin dash, but they had slightly different abilities. Only slightly different. The game was still about speed and platforming. Sega has experimented with fishing,shooting, treasure hunting, brawling, guns and cars, etc in Sonic games and all have strayed from the tried and true formula of speed and platforming for something inferior.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
Even if you're good at the werehog, many people don't enjoy it.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
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glem3 2 years ago
And many people do. So why not give people the option to play more werehog levels, or to just play the sonic ones? It's just giving us more content. So tell me which is better, giving only sonic levels and disappointing the werehog fans, or giving sonic and the werehog and satisfying all fans?
glem3 2 years ago
Why even make new werehog levels in the DLC? Just make all daytime levels! Everyone likes those a heck of a lot better.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
'Cause some people like the werehog levels more.
glem3 2 years ago
Severe minority. Most people say the werehog is the gimmick that destroyed this game. Just watch any video review of it on youtube and look up reader reviews of the game. I've never seen one person who hasn't said that the werehog levels are poorly constructed, with clunky controls, bad camera, and levels that drag on for too long. The werehog is evil. We just want Sonic, no pointless gimmicks. At least 98% of people feel that way.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
Haha 98%? About half the people find it OKAY. Most reviewers that aren't from IGN or Gamespot think that it's at the very least tolerable. There are thousands of people who like the werehog levels more, mostly people who have never played sonic, but a significant amount none the less. Plus, why let perfectly fun levels go to waste?
glem3 2 years ago
About half the people will put up with the werehog because they want to play the daytime levels. The werehog is slow and clunky. The camera is bad (and at important times you can't even adjust it), the drop-shadow disappears a lot of the time. The fighting is repetitive, and that enemy encounter music is annoying. This does not belong in a Sonic game. Sonic games are supposed to be about speed and platforming, not brawling. The platforming they did put in is flawed, slow, and boring.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
Calm down, we have different views, ok? I never said I liked the werehog levels more, but there are people who do, and you have to respect that, because your comment won't change anything anyway.
glem3 2 years ago
I think after all the crap that Sega's put us through lately in Sonic games is proof enough that if we do not voice our complaints, nothing will change. Games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06 are disgraces. And there hasn't been one good 3D Sonic game in years. I want Sonic games to be good again. Unfortunately, Sega seems more concerned with mass producing games to make bank on 'em. That's why we get sloppy, bug-filled, unpolished games
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
Yeah, if you're so great, go ahead and make a fucking sonic game. That's right, you CAN'T. Even if some people don't like unleashed, at least respect all the hard work sega put into it.
glem3 2 years ago
The current Sonic Team has failed to do any justice to the hedgehog. Why do you think Unleashed was full of framerate sags, bugs, and sloppy controls? Because Sega was developing three Sonic games at the same time (Black Knight, Unleashed Wii, and Unleashed 360). If they had pulled their teams together, we might have an epic Sonic title. Unfortunately, they opted for mass-producing games again at the expense of quality. They don't care about quality of the games as long as they sell.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
Helllloooo again. Also, your copy of the game must be FUCKED. Framerate sags are far and few between, and the controls are great considering sonic's acceleration and speed. And Sonic team was making 1 sonic game at a time... Sonic Team split into two groups, sonic unleashed, and sonic and the black knight. Then DIMPS worked on Sonic Unleashed Wii. Also, look at this game and tell me that they didn't put all they had into this game. Once again, at LEAST respect the detail of the game.
glem3 2 years ago
Play Daytime Empire City and Adabat and then tell me there are few framerate sags.
If this is all Sonic Team is capable of, well okay I'll forgive them for that atrocious werehog as long as they move on and focus on Sonic gameplay. Sonic is the staple. Sonic games should be at least 75% Sonic. Too much werehog. And the controls and camera are still annoying in the werehog levels. If I wanted a brawling game, I'd buy one. I want a Sonic game when I buy a Sonic game.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
so you're saying that they rate sonic games 1/10 just because they don't want sonic to change and because of the retards that don't know how to play. and most reviewers show them playing the game but they say this button is unresponsive but they pull some piece o crap thing like use the "unresponsive" button to get themselves killed. how come when Mario changes it doesn't suck? or metroid? or zelda? or other nintendo titles? face it. sonic will change and there's nothing u can do about it.
Sczdcd099 2 years ago
And why dlc levels suck? its not like they want u to waste money and time on these games. they actually put in a lot of effort in these games and they show it by graphics and speed and the fur on sonic at night. and the dlc levels will be annoying but when you get into it its actually fun so stop your blabbing and why do you even play or buy games you think is horrible? u just started blabbing like a mental retard telling us how horrible the game is. complain to sega not us or sell the game.
Sczdcd099 2 years ago
Graphics and speed "and the fur on Sonic at night" do not equal good gameplay, though.
BlazeHedgehog 2 years ago
but still at least theres no sloppy controls.
or frame rate drops or any thing like that
Sczdcd099 2 years ago
No, the controls in Sonic Unleashed could definitely be a lot better. You learn to adjust to them, but Sonic is still a little too slippery and heavy for my liking. With good controls, there shouldn't even be a period of "adjustment". The framerate also drops a LOT in the last few levels and especially during Werehog stuff.
BlazeHedgehog 2 years ago
@BlazeHedgehog
I thought they fixed a few of the framerate issues with some of the DLC.
At least thats what I heard.
Also, for some reason Sonic controls worse at slow speeds and better at high speeds. He has a HUGE turning circle aswell.
Whilst it wasn't perfect, it was so damned close. Just a few adjustments and your golden
scartillery 1 year ago
@scartillery Nope. The DLC did not fix any of the framerate problems.
BlazeHedgehog 1 year ago
Plenty of framerate drops in Adabat, Empire City, and Eggmanland. And the final boss is probably one of the worst bosses I've ever played. You can't tell me you didn't think that Gaia Colussus was a piece of crap. It was so damn slow. And Super Sonic was a tiny dot on the screen trying to kill snake heads.
The controls are bad. While Sonic is fast, he can't corner very well at all. The werehog can't jump for beans and he walks, climbs, and does everything slow. Way to sap the speed out of SONIC
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
No, I stated my arguments clearly. You're the one "blabbing." As a true Sonic fan, I want Sonic to return to his glory by recovering what made the classics so awesome. That's why I complain about that werehog.
The DLC levels are either too short or level remakes for the most part. And that blows monkey farts.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
They never rate Sonic games that low.
Metroid, Mario, and Zelda have never strayed from their roots. Core gameplay has remained the same. Even their transition into 3d was flawless, and they have given us some of the most imaginative and fun games ever. Sonic's games have been mass-produced and have strayed from their roots with too many pointless gimmicks. Sonic used to be about two things--platforming and speed. It should stay that way. No brawlers, treasure hunters, guns, fishing, etc.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
I agree with you. IGN for example, knows NOTHING of what is good for Sonic. Sonic will change and people should STFU and try to like them, The Werehog has nothing wrong with it since they were going for a brawler. Sonic has changed and i like it.
vgman94 2 years ago
It's a fact that Sonic has fallen into the abyss. Game critics realize it. Sonic fans realize it. Even those diehard fans who still buy these mediocre titles realize that Sonic is nothing compared to what he used to be. My comments may not change anything, but if people like you continue defending all this mediocre garbage, we'll never get a good Sonic game again. Sega needs to take a lesson from Nintendo:take time on games to make them quality(that's why Zelda, Mario, and Metroid are still hot)
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
dude, you sound like a complete retard right now. 1st of all, this is their FIRST time using the hedgehog engine. of course its not going to be perfect.
2nd of all, the game critics are a bunch of noobs who gave up on the game for the 1st 10 minutes and decided to give a crappy review. 3rd of all, a lot of sonic fans like the 3d sonic games. Its just people like you who are living in the past and cant accept the fact that sonic is 3d now. They just added the werehog as a twist.
imageeyo 2 years ago 2
Yeah, but why werehog? It's not even a good brawler. I've never played such an irritating mixture of clunky platforming and pointless brawling sections. Unfortunately, Sonic "fans" still buy Sonic games no matter how retarded the games get. Games as horrible as Shadow and 06 still make bank. That basically gives Sega the okay to mass produced half-assed games full of unresponsive controls, slow-down, bad camera angles, and horrible story lines because people still buy that garbage.
StarkMessanger 2 years ago
How much do the Sonic unleashed DLCs cost?
slashzaku15 2 years ago
About $3 per-pack
BlazeHedgehog 2 years ago
not too bad a price. thanks
slashzaku15 2 years ago
who the hell put giant fliying hammers in this stage XD
ronic25 2 years ago
Sonic Team=Masters of depth perspective.
Winterfang 2 years ago
I kept imaging that Werewolf Sonic was Knuckles. Oh wait, that's because they are the same thing! OH-hohohoh.
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
Knuckles has stretchy arms?
TimmiT9 2 years ago
Not that, the gameplay mechanics. Trust me, if they would change Werewolf Sonic with Knuckles, it would be oh so better.
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
More like OH so lamer.
Winterfang 2 years ago
WHAT NO
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
How would be better exactly? Short range fits, boring combos, worse platforming because of the bad glinding.
it will be just like Sonic Adventure 2 treasure hunts....TERRIBLE.
Winterfang 2 years ago
Okay sure, haven't played enough SA2 to know how shit his levels are, but night stages are exactly the same thing as the SA1 levels. Except the gliding and so on.
I'm just thinking. Going around, collecting medals, punching monsters? Sonic Unleashed could very well be Sonic & Knuckles 2 in my head.
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
I know but naming Sonic Unleashed 2, Sonic & Knuckles 2 won't make it magically better.
Also Sonic & Knuckles is a disappointing sequel to Sonic 3, while Sonic 3 & Knuckles is one of genesis finer moments, Sonic and Knuckles alone is a forgettable game.
And Knuckles gaming is one of the worst areas of the adventure series, much much much worse than the werehog. I'll rather had Sonic Unleashed 2 that tarnished the name of a Classic by making Sonic & Knuckles 2.
Winterfang 2 years ago
Okay, I agree with you about the S&K, but what my point all along was that Sonic Team can never grasp the concept of conservatism.
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
Well they did what they could here, the last 3 games.
SATSR,SU and SATBK, where focused on Sonic and Only Sonic but people just haven't forget about Sonic 06 even if it came out 3 years ago.
Winterfang 2 years ago
Okay, I'm no good at this, but at least agree that they can't be conservative when it comes to characters. I hate how they must include a new character in order to tell a new story, when the old ones should be enough.
But of course, you can surely smash my logic here too.
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
To be fair I just don't like Knuckles =P.
Winterfang 2 years ago
Hah! Got you!
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
Yep you got the Fang, but what I say stand true though and Sonic games introduced a new Character on every game since the very first game I would be surprised if the didn't.
Sonic1: Eggman
Sonic 2:Tails
Sonic 3:Knucles
Sonic CD: Amy
Etc...
Winterfang 2 years ago
But for some reason, they got to stay, when the other characters get one game and go away. Case in point, Marine, Shahra.
I know, I know, you're right, but I just think that Sega could use the old characters instead of making new ones.
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
Well just to be a jerk.
They did exactly that on the Story book series, like Simba,sir gawain etc.. they re-use the old characters instead of making new ones.
They still introduce new ones though but doesn't that happen on every new game of any franchise?
Winterfang 2 years ago
No! ...
Wait.
FFFFFFFFFUCK
BenLaserLove 2 years ago
this looks like more fun then the final version in the actual game.
JoMiFu 2 years ago
This is sure as hell better than the original Act 2 in the game, that was almost unbearable X{ This looks pretty damn cool, actually!
MegashadX 2 years ago
Beta level eh? That's pretty cool.
sonicfreak94 2 years ago