Know what wasn't the least bit fake? All the hatred posted in response to Tamtampamela when they "thought she was a Christian".
There's no way to spin the vandals out of this one.
The Japan thing was a total givaway, too. Only intellectual, spiritual, and moral vandals call Japan "atheist". It's Shinto all over the place, with Buddhism thrown in. If you're not a liar trying to make something stupid and small look way bigger than it is, you have no motive.
I like that you didn't touch on the video clip of Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell other than some annotation most people turn off. Fact is plenty of extremist Christians do in fact take a stance similiar to the troll girl.
Also LOL if you think thunderf00t played a large part in her taking the channel down. Message boards like 4Chan tracked down her personal information such as home address, phone number, full name etc etc and made her life a living hell.
ur a fool ..religious nut ...u are a troll and just weird all thunderfoot is saying knowledge is power not god ....how can u even belive the bible its a storys not historical fact ,,,god made the world in the dark on on the seventh day said let there be light ...idiot
@jimmyjohnsonrocks123 think you meant proof .....moron if you are going ,to ridicule" someones spelling and punctuation, get your ,grammar "correct and i can spell must of been, pissed or stoned, that night bye" you fucking moron hahahaahahaha {hows my punctuation,TIT}
I could not help but notice the annotations in the upper left defending Pat Robertson & Jerry Falwell. Then later in your video, you go on to blast this silly girl as "not a real Christian" because of her statements.
So I can only wonder why would you randomly point out and defend defend these men I must presume IYO they are not christian either, after they have made equally outrageous statements about other natural disasters. 911 was not a natural disaster.
"Is she a Poe (basically a satirical 'Christian'). I think so,"
-Thunderf00t
Seriously, he both wrote this on the description AND spoke it. Your reading comprehension and listening skill are both something you need to improve. Seriously...could you be any more dishonest?
Ehh, no, he doesn't use fake material you ninny. His whole point WAS that he knew she was a poe and not genuine. His point was that there ARE religious people who would say things as appalling as this, such as (to name a few): Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, etc.
Because he was trying to show someone who WAS a poe, and WAS doing a SATIRE of it. His ENTIRE POINT point was that some of these people believe things that are SO wild that a satire of it seems like a genuine opinion.
@tskasa1 BS! Then he could have compared it to video with people actually praising, and rejoicing in the tragedy. He must also have a lot of overwhelming week minded followers, since a great amount of them thought she was real.
And Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" could have been written about the english men who wanted to help the Irish and not continue to kick them off their land and abuse them....and then it would have NOT been satire and defeated the whole purpose of it.
@AWorldExposure "BS" in the context you are using it is an acronym for "bull shit". Using such language is in direct violation of Ephesians4: 29. A great amount of followers of Jesus thought she was real too. Some even posted response videos. Are they overwhelmingly weak minded as well?
I've already answered this question like...four times. Because he was making a point on the belligerence of many Christians who actually WOULD and do (for example, Rush Limbaugh) believe this using this quite obvious satire. Again, it'd be the same as if Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" were about the "good" Englishmen who actually wanted to help the Irish, but that would have defeated the whole point of it for quite obvious reasons.
@tskasa1 Then perhaps he should have used actual footage of "belligerence of many Christians". These alleged belligerent Christians obviously don't exist, or he wouldn't have needed to invent one. He does that a lot. He goes on about alleged evidence He can't produce. He makes accusations he can't prove. He invents lies to support a twist view of the world that all his twisted little goats can believe in.
Did you completely ignore what I just wrote down? I even cited a bloody example of somebody who DID do that. But again, that was NOT his point. Reading comprehension. Seriously. You need it.
@tskasa1 I completely ignored that crap just wrote. I have never heard of any of those guy's say anything like that, and I bet I've watch them all more than either you, or thunderfool. I heard christopher Hitchens ate a fetus in a chinese ritual trying to cure himself of cancer, but I don't think it would be fair to Go find a Christopher look alike, and try to pass it off as real. Obviously Christians have better morals than atheists. Atheists are such hypocrites.
The web sites are set up by atheists. Then atheists used the web sites to accuse Christians of being bad people, so they say terrible, and hurtful things to innocent people just to dig at someone they hate. WOW that is really bad. If that's proof of anything I'd have to say it's proof atheists are bad people.
@BartofGod Just like the video, you are jumping to conclusions. Thunderf00t simply didn't realize that she was a Troll and, previously being a Christian myself, used to believe that same kind of crap that she spoke about. I prayed all the time and never got an answer. If I had prayed for the same thing she did and got that response, I probably would have drawn the same conclusion. I've learned that things don't work that way and this is common in Japan, just worse this time around.
I love how you, AWorldExposure, say that no "real" Christian would say such ugly things. That is rubbish and YOU have no right to decide who is and who isn't a "real" christians. Plenty of christians say plenty of ugly things.
It doesn't matter if it's fake I have actually seen people who support these types of things, and if you read Leviticus you would know that God also supports awful things such as this girl said.
Dear Murphy, with all the crazy Christians out there... it's hard to divide the real Christian that believe in fake content from fake-fakes... Don'tcha think?
Not to mention on both occasion thunderfoot said that he thought they were fake to begin with!
@AWorldExposure First of all, saying that someone who only withhold empirical science to be true and that truth can be changed as soon as it is disproven is a fool makes your comment one of the most incorrect and insulting.
Second, you just need to look a twitter posts and people on TV to realize that kind of thinking (being that japan deserved it) being either patriotic and/or religious are all delusional.
It might be a poor leverage for science, but it is a valid one!
@AWorldExposure So why use a fake one? Because it was a well known video, because it was based on the fact that many other people are thinking the same, and that these people need to be shaken up to reality... and to not simply follow a 2000 year old book written by herders in the desert.
@AWorldExposure "Then why didn't the fool use a REAL video?"
To illustrate a point. If you hear what he sais after the girl's speach and to what the guy on the tv sais (and the other one agrees), you should get it. His point is very valid, indeed. There are christians capable of being very weird, and even malevolent, indeed. Not all of them, but too many of them.
I guess the same can apply to all the isms, though.
Thunderf00t suggested in his video that this may have been a fake. The idea that christians would talk this way is not hard for me to believe. I was at a church right after the U.S. invaded Iraq.The paster, during his prayer was asking god to help troops with there efforts in KILLING the enemy. He went on to condemn the Iraqis for "attacking" our troops. Thier country is being invaded by a foreign nation. They are simply defending there country. They are patriots!
@ElProximo I believe the universe exists, and we can learn something about it. it is a known unknown how the universe began, there are many models trying to represent how it began, but I don't believe anything of gods...
@ElProximo if you look historically you see that there are MANY DEITIES said to have created the universe spread all over the world, you forget that every baby is born atheist that is plenty evidence that the idea of a god arose after the non idea of any god or deity. if you wish to tell me that the universe didn't come before the idea of god I'd like to see your evidence to support sentience pre-existing sentient life.. you still don't acknowledge the lack of evidence for gods existence
@ElProximo I don't have to believe one way or the other about your god any more than you do about the flying spaghetti monster.. because we have reason, we can immediately turn away ideas that are not grounded or supported by evidence congruent to systems we readily observe in our world.. if your going to claim a world outside our natural reality exists the onus is really on you to provide such evidence for this.. and it is not assumed I believe the opposite, I could just not care at all.
@ElProximo I think your having a problem between what is a "belief" and what is blind faith... meaning that because I believe the stop light will work does NOT mean I have blind faith that it works by some supernatural power, I've seen plenty of stop lights not working.. so what reason do you have to say I would just always believe it works? if I get there and its not lit, then I'll handle the situation accordingly... your forgetting people possess reason.. another source for knowledge..
@ElProximo so let me get this straight, the universe begins... someone comes up with an explanation ie god, i don't agree with that explanation, and now I have to believe the opposite of your belief? what if I believe that all gods exist, that would now make you the atheist, minus one god, the one your choosing to favor...now we can go on all day about how I believe things that exist in the natural world because I have supporting evidence in the world but that still says nothing about your god.
@ElProximo and did you really just use marriage as an example to an atheist 0.o.. your religious practice isn't grounded in reality as it is irrational to believe you can pick someone to serve as a life partner in your young adulthood, the point of marriage is to protect resources, even in the wild some primates pick mates to survive and defend territory and resources with.. and of course bearing offspring. I still don't understand what your point is, I've ask you to tie this all in to god...
@ElProximo I used the word intentionally to negate the effect your trying to receive from using it... beliefs vary by DEGREE, meaning I can be justified in my beliefs where someone can have no justification for theirs... do you truly believe making the argument that everyone believes in something means that god exists or is even a justified belief? that is such a pathetic weakly grounded argument ...
@ElProximo Your example still doesn't address the fact that my job has a history of evidence for existing, god does not.... so my belief that my job will be there tomorrow IS GROUNDED IN REALITY WITH SOUND EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT ITS EXISTENCE.. if I arrive and it is gone that merely proves that unlikely circumstances occur, not that I should speculate every day as to whether my job will be there when I arrive... thats in no way proof or justification for supernatural entities.. now try again...
@ElProximo first of all your assuming I'm an empiricist.. and your also assuming I don't possess modern technology capable of receiving a call from my boss to alert my of my job condition.. Sunday night I'm not doing anything I'm going to sleep.. your example is riddled with holes, if I arrive to work Monday its not because I Believed I had work, its because I ACTUALLY DID.. nobody has the foresight to predict these events.. that doesn't mean I believe anything...
@ElProximo your not worth my time, continue your delusions. and for the record thats a completely loaded question, you should read up on informal fallacies
@ElProximo another quick point, in your comparison between believing I have a job tomorrow and bringing up god is a weak argument, I have plenty of empirical proof of my job, i have paychecks, a schedule, a manager calling me for work.. and even a place of work that I must attend.. so there is no belief or hoping I still have a job..
@ElProximo Your trying to redefine atheism to fit your description because it intentionally includes the word believe...but in no definition I've ever found on atheism does it use this word believe....simply because its A-theism, do you understand what the prefix A- means? it means NOT. You cannot name something a belief that is claiming to be absence of belief! that makes no logical sense..sadly your logic is rooted in the false dichotomy that doesn't realize theres a C) no belief either way
@TheOptimistPrime not believing in something is not a belief..I DON'T believe in your god so explain to me now how that can be a belief. If i told you there is a frog in the sun and you say no there isn't then you are now an A-frog-in-the-sun-ist.. now by that logic we must now define ourselves by every moronic creation of the human mind that you do NOT believe in...the mere term ATHEIST is a joke. Why should I have a title because you want to believe a 2000 year old story? how about you grow up
@ElProximo Proof is the truth, which truth is evidence. Or rather has to have evidence to make 'truth'.
Do you really want to go down that road of acting like a total douche bag and make egotistic "insults" towards me every time you reply with a comment?
I'm very intelligent actually...And actually, yes I am right. I know what those terms mean. So insult me as you like, in the end you look like a moron saying that atheists have to have faith or have to believe in something to be what they are...
No I make decisions throughout my day based on things I have learned throughout my life. People make actions and decisions based on knowledge of the best possible outcomes. The knowledge is based on past experiences or gathered knowledge from other people. Parents/Books/Media/school/etc. It's called the brain and it's capability of learning.
Your point doesn't make sense. You're saying that living is proof of belief? I don't believe that I'm alive, I know I am....
@ElProximo Wrong again. Atheists are not 'convinced beyond a reasonable doubt'. Atheists reject the idea (a creator is still possible in their mind) but the idea is a mystery and thus in their case then rejected until it is proven true.
And as far as the term for belief (believe), in relation to religion, it means "to have confidence or faith in the truth of".
Faith is the belief in something without proof.
So I still don't understand your statement "belief system"?.....
You fail to realize that even if she is a troll that the religious mind can be so messed up its hard to tell. After all the religious believe all kinds of nutty things.
she is the fool, that's why she closed her account and Thunderf00t still remain beside by the name of GOD and religions a lot of people have been kill in all times, even the BIBLE said it and that is a fact.
@Andy97009814 - Prove it. Show me a YouTube video of an actual, undeniable Christian who actually thought and said the exact same thing as this disgusting woman from your camp. You, of course, cannot do so because there are no such videos. If there were, Thunderfool and every other atheist on YouTube would've already presented and hammered them. So you are left with relying solely on exactly what you began with: fake material.
@Andy97009814 Exactly! Hard to tell when they are being sarcastic or not when there are so many publicized religious nutters. Westboro Baptist anyone?
Satire is typically pointedly obvious to the audience, i.e Stephen Colbert. When the person has so "fooled" near everyone into believing they really are a religious zealot then it's no longer funny and just plain reprehensible.
This is not proof that she is a Satirist. She deleted her Channel. If she really wanted to trick people wouldn't she want to stay around and reap the attention? Odds are she was genuine, got a lot of negative attention and possibly threats, got scared, made something up to get people to forget about it and left.
When there are genuine Christians acting like the satirists, then that is when you can't discern between the two. If you have people like Kent Hovind, Nephilimfree, and the entirety of the Westboro Baptist Church, then the line between Satire and Genuine gets so thin it is hard to discern between the two without a smily face.
And people waste their time destroying the insane things people say because they know that other idiots will believe them blindly. like 38% of Americans.
38% of Americans recently surveyed believed that the earthquake and tsunamis in Japan were signs from god. 1 girl posts a video PARODYING this widespread belief and she gets a tsunami of abuse (and pizza) from the internet. Fact is anyone claiming to take the bible literally either holds these same beliefs or doesn't know what's in the bible.
@crazyinsane500 I was a funamentalist christian for 18 years & taught to believe the very things that tamtam parodied in her vids. I watched 1 of her old vids & wondered if she was real so I watched the rest of them. I posted on her channel page saying that her 'Poe act' was very convincing & asked if she had at one stage been a 'fundy'. Also her vid about computer games was a bit of a give away. As I suggested in my comment there are many ppl who hold her beliefs. She wasn't one of them.
Is the "Thank God for the Japan disaster girl's" post correctly identified as satire? Meaning: "A composition, generally poetical, holding up vice or folly to reprobation; a keen or severe exposure of what in public or private morals deserves rebuke"? I don't think so, unless there are actually people out there who hold this opinion and deserve, therefor, a rebuke.
@ryder8910 Are you not aware of the many people who hold the same opinion? 38% of Americans surveyed believed the Japan disaster was a sign from god. If this had coincided with the final months of WWII then millions of American's would be praising god for sending an answer to their prayers. Perhaps a hurricane decimating parts of Iran is all it would take for these biblical literalists to come out of the closet. What she did was closer to "parody" & since some found it funny it fits the meaning
You do realize thunderf00t never said it was a real video? He was showing it as a visual aid for views like this, which are very much true. There are christians who would consider the earthquake as god's message to Japan because they're mostly atheist.
Is this a satire? Are you honestly defending christian conservatism by attacking journalists who have no reason to doubt the sincerity of these web postings?
The problem is not that the sites are spoofs or that the persons using them were duped into thinking they were real, but that the representations are not distinguishable without the originator stating overtly that they are a spoof. They are far too realistic.
@Fiends4 LOL! So because he has a hundred thousand subscribers, that makes him right? He was given subscribers by YouTube constantly promoting him. Now who's the fool?
@AWorldExposure You still are. Half the people who like your video dislike it. More than 90% of people like his video. He has more fans for a reason, it doesn't matter if YouTube promotes him, they do for a very good reason.
@Fiends4 There is nothing more foolish than his foolish followers (such as yourself) giving thumbs down to the videos that expose the truth about him. You can't say anything about those video, so you thumb them down and say that ThunderF00t is right because he has more thumbs up. LOL
@AWorldExposure Actually he has more thumbs up because more people agree with him and less people agree with you. Don't even take it as numbers, take it as a ratio. You're at 51% positive while hes always at 95%+ positive. I watched your video and I disagree with you and think you're an idiot for insulting somebody smarter and better than you. Jealousy is a foul demon, isn't it?
@Fiends4 You still haven't told us why you disagree with my video. You probably gave it thumbs down before you even watched it. I'm not sure what grade you are in, but the argument that "I'm just jealous," or that he is "smarter and better than me," is quite a juvenile argument.
If these are the kind of arguments you want to make, then okay. You only have 8 subscribers! I have 3,609. ALL of your videos are MORE THAN HALF thumbs down.
@AWorldExposure This isn't about my account or the fact I have no subscribers, don't you remember this is about you insulting THunderf00t. This is what you people do, you are jealous of his fame and intelligence so you insult him and get angry. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
@AWorldExposure Can you read? I said calling a fool means you are insulting somebody. I don't care if he knows you exist or not, Why do you keep referring to grades, I finished my grad studies like 8 years ago. You seem to keep getting more upset over this which easily proves my point. You are jealous because he gets more views and more likes/subscribers than you do. You disagree with something Thunderf00t says so you make a video calling him a fool instead of debating logically.
@Fiends4 all this means is that thunderfools followers are a bunch of easily led, faddish sheep. Pointing out how fake and shallow the people who follow him are is definitely not a winning point for your argument.
@Fiends4 all this means is that thunderfools followers are a bunch of easily led, faddish sheep. Pointing out how fake and shallow the people who follow him are is definitely not a winning point for your argument. It does explain how they all fall for this fake crap, thinking parodies are real and all that. They obviously don't spend much time thinking or paying attention. When you're a shallow fool, you'll fall for any charlatan.
Funny, how atheists always claim they hate religion because it demands blind obedience and leads to the persecution of others, yet this is exactly what radical atheists like this guy do themselves. This is a perfect example that it is not religion behind the blind obedience, lies and violence. It is radical people, no matter what they are radical about, who demand others agree with them, and the easily led fools who stumble along at the beck and call of the radicals.
@Fiends4 View/subcount, Feinds4, does not in anyway indicate whether or not someone is a fool.
That's a rather....foolish thing to suggest.
It IS foolish to be duped by a spoof site and treat it as legitimate. Given that Thunderf00t is just some guy on youtube, of no major significance with an audience that is only impressive on youtube, he is more easily forgiven. The folks who research and find material for Rachel's show, on the other hand... someone should have been fired.
I see what the real problem is here. When a man ceases to beleive in God, its not that he ceases to believe in everything. He merely becomes more apt to believe anything.
In his video, TF did say that it didn't matter whether the girl in the video was a troll or not because this is the kind of things christians say. You disagreed saying no christian would ever say such a thing.
Try the following search in Google (without the quotes): "cindy jacobs blames japan's earthquake on dragon worship".You might be surprised at the result - the rest of us probably won't be.
@thatgaybloke You make the assumption that Pentecostal heretics who mix voodoo with warped private interpretations of scripture and babble in their parishes are an accurate representation of the children of the gospel.
Oh yes, I know, I'm using the "No True Scotsman" and blah blah blah.
@hellsunicorn "Pentecostal heretics" - because only YOU have the truth, right? Everyone else is wrong. What do you think the "Pentecostal heretics" would say if you asked them whether or not they or you were interpreting the scripture correctly? I think I could guess with a reasonable expectation of success.
"Even if this girl was not a troll... her words do no define the meaning of Christianity. Anyone saying such horrific thinks is not a Christian." Really? The "no true Scotsman" argument? What about proposing that all abortions should be performed in a public square - or don't you consider your idol Lila Rose to be a Christian?
@thatgaybloke What about someone saying on their YT channel that they hope they would be prepared to kill their child if god told them to? What about the stuff the Phelps family comes out with - rejoicing at the funerals of soldiers? Not real Christians? You look at what they say and it matches the Christian bible perfectly. The problem with your "no true Christian would" argument is that they very much "would" - and indeed "do".
@that bloke The Phelps family is nothing but a hate group. They are falsely reported (from people like Rachel Maddow) as being a Christian organization, just as they are falsely reported as "protesting." They are not "protesting" anything. It's just hate speech.
@AWorldExposure "The Phelps family is nothing but a hate group". They quote directly from the Bible and are just more honest about it than the other christians who like to sugar coat things because they realise just how violent and intolerant their religion is in its native form. There are very few christians who follow the alleged teachings of Jesus - if they did they would sell all their possessions, give their money to the poor and devote their lives to helping their fellow human beings.
@thatgaybloke lol You just did exactly what the Phelps family does on a daily basis, twisting a few verses in order to fit in with your own biased worldview. Do tell me how your limited understanding of Christ's challenge to the rich man proposing to be his disciple squares with the parables of the master's servants and their investments of the talents given, or the book of Proverbs' teachings about how those who work will prosper.
@hellsunicorn "You did exactly what the Phelps... twisting a few verses in order to fit in with your own biased worldview" Thank you so much for making my point - please try and take it on board. That's exactly the issue here - that you can (and do) cherry pick and selectively reinterpret the scripture so that it agrees with what you've already decided is true.
@thatgaybloke So here you have taken the parables of the talents and Proverbs' teachings about how those who work will prosper so that it agrees with your materialistic desires, rather than taking a spiritual view. So that means you can work hard so that you can buy loads of stuff and resent paying any tax to help those less well off because they are the "undeserving poor". How convenient.
@thatgaybloke lol You would have to presuppose God's existence in order for the "kill you're own child" thing to work, then you would have to understand that the canon is closed, that Issac's sacrifice was a type and shadow of Christ's coming sacrifice (ergo, God's promise that Issac would rule the Hebrews suggests that Issac's death would not have been permanent), and so on.
Typical atheist, insisting on babbling your opinions on things you have zero understanding of.
@hellsunicorn "you would have to presuppose God's existence in order for the 'kill your own child' thing to work". Sadly, that is not the case. All that is required is for someone to believe, beyond a doubt, that the voices they hear in their head come from God. That's it - actual existence of that god is not required.
@hellsunicorn I'm not going to argue scripture with you because a) I'm no expert on the Bible by any means; b) it is irrelevant because Christians can - and do - cherry pick and selectively reinterpret their scripture to mean whatever they want it to mean. If someone believes that God is speaking to them and asks them to do the unthinkable they have to make a decision - go with what God says, or disobey it - regardless of what is said in the scripture.
@thatgaybloke Sorry. You are wrong. A christian asks themselves what Christ would do. Christ would not have abortions in public squares. Christ would pray with the familys of dead soldiers...not protets them. Let me guess...your only experience with Christians is over the internet right?
@IamTheAntiMartyr I think your definition of what a Christian SHOULD be is closer to mine that it is for many people who would call themselves Christian. "What would Jesus do?" - well, I think Jesus would treat people with compassion, kindness, generosity, tolerance and forgiveness. I believe that Jesus would expect us to do whatever we can to help those in need. That Jesus would not want us to judge other people harshly simply because they are different or we disagree with them.
@thatgaybloke Those are all the characteristics I would expect from a "true" Christian - and they are the characteristics I see in most of the Christians that I know. Unfortunately, there are plenty of Christians out there who are hateful, judgemental, greedy and bigoted. You might not consider them "true" Christians. I certainly don't see behaviour that is at odds with how I would expect a Christian to behave. If you ask them, though, the would certainly consider themselves "true" Christians.
@thatgaybloke That was one of the points Thunderfoot was making. That the horrible things this woman was saying were, although it turns out not said by Christian, indistinguishable from things said and done by people who DO claim to be Christians and do so genuinely.
@thatgaybloke Okay, this is WAY off topic, but Lila Rose was saying that as long as abortions are legal, they should be done in a public square, so that women could see how horrific they are, and choose life.
@AWorldExposure You've kind of missed the point. When TF used a poe as an example of christian thinking he said that it didn't matter whether she was genuine or not because this is the kind of horrible thing that some christians come outwith. Lila Rose's suggestion that women who have abortions should have it done in the public square - something she is entirely serious about - is horrible. It is just as mean and crazy as anything the troll said.
@thatgaybloke You seem to have skipped over completely Cindy Jacobs' claims that the Japanese earthquake was probably down to their unchristian ways. I don't think Cindy Jacobs' is a poe - which is the scary thing. This madwoman is deadly serious and even more scary there is no shortage of people who agree with her. All of whom would call themselves "christian".
@thatgaybloke Cindy Jacobs, by your own admission, represents "some Christians", ergo she has no real relevance since we are condemning an entire faith, not just one or two media whores who claim a certain faith.
@hellsunicorn As far as you are concerned Cindy Jacobs is not a "true Christian". If you asked her whether she considered herself to be a true Christian, what would she say?
@thatgaybloke Excuse me? Some Christians? I thought we were talking about Christianity here, as in the whole faith endorsing this stuff. Can you make up your mind please.
@hellsunicorn "I thought we were talking about Christianity here, as in the whole faith endorsing this stuff." You might have been - I certainly wouldn't make that claim. I'm not even sure there is a "Christianity" that you could identify as a single religion. Once again - since it obviously bears repeating - there are truly evil and deranged people out there who claim to be Christians genuinely believing that to be the truth. They have not shortage of people who would agree that they are.
@thatgaybloke Do you even know how to properly apply the "No True Scotsman" fallacy? Any one can go around claiming to be a Scotsman, but it is null and void unless the person is of actual Scottish descent and is also identified as a Scottish national (ergo someone of even perfect Scottish genetic lineage can not be of the culture if they've lived in and are a citizen of another country). Now, apply this same reasoning to a self-proclaimed Christian who contradicts every tenant of the faith.
@hellsunicorn I think the no true Scotsman fallacy is valid in this instance in spite of Ms Troll not actually being a Christian. The point you seem to be unable to grasp is that although she was parodying nut case Christians, there are actually people out there who claim to be Christians and who say this kind of stuff. Poe's law.
Fascinating. Notice how she can hardly contain her glee. She's so delighted that she has found something that so strongly confirms her stuck-up prejudices that she can't see how phony it is. Any true Christian recognizes instantly that this thing was inauthentic. But people like Maddow actually think this is how Christians think. Pathetic.
The point of the video by Thunderf00t, is that you can find the most despicable and disgusting comment about a Human event, then compare it to what religious leaders with millions of followers say, and one then will realize that they are around the same level or even worse.
The thing that Tf00t said IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS was: "Now, to an extent, if this girl is surreal or not is an irrelevance. The mere fact that you cannot tell shows how messed up this is."
That was him stating that he suspected or even knew she was a troll and said that it didn't really matter... the fact that you could totally believe her to be a devout theists because this is exactly the kind of insane cruel B.S. that you can hear come out of their rotten mouthes.
Here's a story for you: A video, filled with extreme Christian nuttiness (most religions have the same level of nuts), filters onto youtube, people watch it and comment. More people watch the video, eventually people like TF watch it and say "Whoa, what a crazy Christian bitch!" after several million people watch it.
People like AWE say: "CHERRY PICKING CRAZY FAKE CHRISTIANS!"
So she was a troll. I don't really get what you're bitching about. There are lots of people of the christian and other faiths who are just as crazy or crazier than this chick was pretending to be.
That troll never "prayed" for God to "cause the earthquake in Japan" too. She just "prayed" for "God to open the eyes of atheists" and the coincidental earthquake that followed a couple of days later was "assumed" to be "God answering prayers". Had any other major world event happened, I am 100% sure that the "assumption" would have been the same.
Pardon the quotation marks, I'm using them strictly in response to that girl's fake prayer.
I don't think at any point TF evaded reason, yes he shouldn't of included that video in the first place he is appealing to an example, but you can see what the theme of the video was minus the tasteless satire.. Whilst science is inventing preventatives and helping hands, religion is blaming and condemning minorities whilst reinforcing prejudice. You do not refer to this message in your video, you should.
in Tfoots defense... he says IN THE DESCRIPTION of the video in question he says the girl is a Poe, or "basically a satirical christian". and in the video he makes the point of its sad that people can watch a video like that and actually speculate about if its satire or not. i am NOT a big Tfoot fan, but this video of yours is the misleading one, or out of context. yes he uses fake material, but thats the point he makes. did you watch it?
I'd like to ask: What's your defense against Thunderf00t's vid 7.10 mins in where genuine Christians say they "truly believe that" the 9/11 horrors were aided by gays, abortionists, feminists, pagans and atheists for making God "mad". How is that different to what the GirlTroll said, except that he meant it and she didn't?
Some bible nut please answer the nice ladies polite question?
@ElProximo Sorry, should've clarified. The difference between proof , truth and evidence.
Andy97009814 9 months ago
@ElProximo Well then, if you actually wanted ad ebate, maybe you should explain the difference to him?
Andy97009814 9 months ago
lol ...TF doesnt need to diss POPE ... Richard Dawkins already did hahaaha
watch?v=BBHqGHxBJRs
and if you ARE SO FREAKING CONVINCED that TF is using fake material please share your deep deep knowlage present the REAL material and uincover him .
btw im suprised u can trow some christians to feed to lions just to pretect your stupid religion,
peace and may god kill you all ....
sexyxrs 10 months ago
Watch aI42qZBQcbw or the channel ChristianFaithVideos, specifically this vid J0jREVfhgRw
xPHOENIX269x 10 months ago
Know what wasn't the least bit fake? All the hatred posted in response to Tamtampamela when they "thought she was a Christian".
There's no way to spin the vandals out of this one.
The Japan thing was a total givaway, too. Only intellectual, spiritual, and moral vandals call Japan "atheist". It's Shinto all over the place, with Buddhism thrown in. If you're not a liar trying to make something stupid and small look way bigger than it is, you have no motive.
trextoter 10 months ago
I like that you didn't touch on the video clip of Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell other than some annotation most people turn off. Fact is plenty of extremist Christians do in fact take a stance similiar to the troll girl.
Also LOL if you think thunderf00t played a large part in her taking the channel down. Message boards like 4Chan tracked down her personal information such as home address, phone number, full name etc etc and made her life a living hell.
m89733 10 months ago
ur a fool ..religious nut ...u are a troll and just weird all thunderfoot is saying knowledge is power not god ....how can u even belive the bible its a storys not historical fact ,,,god made the world in the dark on on the seventh day said let there be light ...idiot
gman9884 10 months ago
@gman9884 Your horrible spelling and punctuation in your comment prove that you are much more of an idiot than Larry is.
jimmyjohnsonrocks123 10 months ago 3
@jimmyjohnsonrocks123 think you meant proof .....moron if you are going ,to ridicule" someones spelling and punctuation, get your ,grammar "correct and i can spell must of been, pissed or stoned, that night bye" you fucking moron hahahaahahaha {hows my punctuation,TIT}
gman9884 10 months ago
@gman9884 Oh the irony.... lol
jimmyjohnsonrocks123 9 months ago
I could not help but notice the annotations in the upper left defending Pat Robertson & Jerry Falwell. Then later in your video, you go on to blast this silly girl as "not a real Christian" because of her statements.
So I can only wonder why would you randomly point out and defend defend these men I must presume IYO they are not christian either, after they have made equally outrageous statements about other natural disasters. 911 was not a natural disaster.
pumpstations 10 months ago
why didja remove ratings?
mrpotatohead34 11 months ago
@mrpotatohead34 because no one likes him
gman9884 10 months ago
@gman9884 lol
mrpotatohead34 10 months ago
Hehe...thunderFOOL is an understatement.
jimmyjohnsonrocks123 11 months ago 2
Soon PCS and Nephilim will claim to be trolls, and maybe they'll be telling the truth
AnonymousComrade 11 months ago
"Is she a Poe (basically a satirical 'Christian'). I think so,"
-Thunderf00t
Seriously, he both wrote this on the description AND spoke it. Your reading comprehension and listening skill are both something you need to improve. Seriously...could you be any more dishonest?
tskasa1 11 months ago 3
@tskasa1 lol I addressed that he probably knew about it. The point is that he uses fake material. So, who needs to improve on listening?
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure
Ehh, no, he doesn't use fake material you ninny. His whole point WAS that he knew she was a poe and not genuine. His point was that there ARE religious people who would say things as appalling as this, such as (to name a few): Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, etc.
tskasa1 11 months ago 2
@tskasa1 Then why didn't he just show video of one of these people rejoicing in, or praising the tragedy?
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure
Because he was trying to show someone who WAS a poe, and WAS doing a SATIRE of it. His ENTIRE POINT point was that some of these people believe things that are SO wild that a satire of it seems like a genuine opinion.
tskasa1 11 months ago
@tskasa1 BS! Then he could have compared it to video with people actually praising, and rejoicing in the tragedy. He must also have a lot of overwhelming week minded followers, since a great amount of them thought she was real.
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure
And Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" could have been written about the english men who wanted to help the Irish and not continue to kick them off their land and abuse them....and then it would have NOT been satire and defeated the whole purpose of it.
tskasa1 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure BS! Then he could have com..... yeah he did! Pat robertson. you are very dishonest
Heliosvector 10 months ago
@AWorldExposure BS! Then he could have com..... yeah he did! Pat robertson. you are very dishonest
Heliosvector 10 months ago
@AWorldExposure it's not fake material because he said it was satire.
willardftw 10 months ago
@AWorldExposure "BS" in the context you are using it is an acronym for "bull shit". Using such language is in direct violation of Ephesians4: 29. A great amount of followers of Jesus thought she was real too. Some even posted response videos. Are they overwhelmingly weak minded as well?
incomprehensible14 8 months ago
@tskasa1 If he knew this girl was acting like real Christians then why didn't he just post the real Christian doing it, because there aren't any?
BartofGod 10 months ago
@BartofGod
I've already answered this question like...four times. Because he was making a point on the belligerence of many Christians who actually WOULD and do (for example, Rush Limbaugh) believe this using this quite obvious satire. Again, it'd be the same as if Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" were about the "good" Englishmen who actually wanted to help the Irish, but that would have defeated the whole point of it for quite obvious reasons.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 Then perhaps he should have used actual footage of "belligerence of many Christians". These alleged belligerent Christians obviously don't exist, or he wouldn't have needed to invent one. He does that a lot. He goes on about alleged evidence He can't produce. He makes accusations he can't prove. He invents lies to support a twist view of the world that all his twisted little goats can believe in.
BartofGod 10 months ago
@BartofGod
Did you completely ignore what I just wrote down? I even cited a bloody example of somebody who DID do that. But again, that was NOT his point. Reading comprehension. Seriously. You need it.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 I completely ignored that crap just wrote. I have never heard of any of those guy's say anything like that, and I bet I've watch them all more than either you, or thunderfool. I heard christopher Hitchens ate a fetus in a chinese ritual trying to cure himself of cancer, but I don't think it would be fair to Go find a Christopher look alike, and try to pass it off as real. Obviously Christians have better morals than atheists. Atheists are such hypocrites.
BartofGod 10 months ago
The web sites are set up by atheists. Then atheists used the web sites to accuse Christians of being bad people, so they say terrible, and hurtful things to innocent people just to dig at someone they hate. WOW that is really bad. If that's proof of anything I'd have to say it's proof atheists are bad people.
BartofGod 10 months ago
@BartofGod Just like the video, you are jumping to conclusions. Thunderf00t simply didn't realize that she was a Troll and, previously being a Christian myself, used to believe that same kind of crap that she spoke about. I prayed all the time and never got an answer. If I had prayed for the same thing she did and got that response, I probably would have drawn the same conclusion. I've learned that things don't work that way and this is common in Japan, just worse this time around.
Asmusei 10 months ago
@BartofGod
...You really DON'T understand what satire is, do you?
tskasa1 10 months ago
I love how you, AWorldExposure, say that no "real" Christian would say such ugly things. That is rubbish and YOU have no right to decide who is and who isn't a "real" christians. Plenty of christians say plenty of ugly things.
globalist1789 11 months ago
@globalist1789 You're right. Hed has no right. But God does.
jimmyjohnsonrocks123 11 months ago
It doesn't matter if it's fake I have actually seen people who support these types of things, and if you read Leviticus you would know that God also supports awful things such as this girl said.
ARandomEpicGuy 11 months ago
Dear Murphy, with all the crazy Christians out there... it's hard to divide the real Christian that believe in fake content from fake-fakes... Don'tcha think?
Not to mention on both occasion thunderfoot said that he thought they were fake to begin with!
tankusfred 11 months ago
@tankusfred Then why didn't the fool use a REAL video?
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure First of all, saying that someone who only withhold empirical science to be true and that truth can be changed as soon as it is disproven is a fool makes your comment one of the most incorrect and insulting.
Second, you just need to look a twitter posts and people on TV to realize that kind of thinking (being that japan deserved it) being either patriotic and/or religious are all delusional.
It might be a poor leverage for science, but it is a valid one!
tankusfred 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure So why use a fake one? Because it was a well known video, because it was based on the fact that many other people are thinking the same, and that these people need to be shaken up to reality... and to not simply follow a 2000 year old book written by herders in the desert.
tankusfred 11 months ago
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@AWorldExposure "Then why didn't the fool use a REAL video?"
To illustrate a point. If you hear what he sais after the girl's speach and to what the guy on the tv sais (and the other one agrees), you should get it. His point is very valid, indeed. There are christians capable of being very weird, and even malevolent, indeed. Not all of them, but too many of them.
I guess the same can apply to all the isms, though.
skaruts 11 months ago
Thunderf00t suggested in his video that this may have been a fake. The idea that christians would talk this way is not hard for me to believe. I was at a church right after the U.S. invaded Iraq.The paster, during his prayer was asking god to help troops with there efforts in KILLING the enemy. He went on to condemn the Iraqis for "attacking" our troops. Thier country is being invaded by a foreign nation. They are simply defending there country. They are patriots!
ThePedub 11 months ago
@ElProximo I believe the universe exists, and we can learn something about it. it is a known unknown how the universe began, there are many models trying to represent how it began, but I don't believe anything of gods...
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo if you look historically you see that there are MANY DEITIES said to have created the universe spread all over the world, you forget that every baby is born atheist that is plenty evidence that the idea of a god arose after the non idea of any god or deity. if you wish to tell me that the universe didn't come before the idea of god I'd like to see your evidence to support sentience pre-existing sentient life.. you still don't acknowledge the lack of evidence for gods existence
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo I don't have to believe one way or the other about your god any more than you do about the flying spaghetti monster.. because we have reason, we can immediately turn away ideas that are not grounded or supported by evidence congruent to systems we readily observe in our world.. if your going to claim a world outside our natural reality exists the onus is really on you to provide such evidence for this.. and it is not assumed I believe the opposite, I could just not care at all.
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo I think your having a problem between what is a "belief" and what is blind faith... meaning that because I believe the stop light will work does NOT mean I have blind faith that it works by some supernatural power, I've seen plenty of stop lights not working.. so what reason do you have to say I would just always believe it works? if I get there and its not lit, then I'll handle the situation accordingly... your forgetting people possess reason.. another source for knowledge..
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo so let me get this straight, the universe begins... someone comes up with an explanation ie god, i don't agree with that explanation, and now I have to believe the opposite of your belief? what if I believe that all gods exist, that would now make you the atheist, minus one god, the one your choosing to favor...now we can go on all day about how I believe things that exist in the natural world because I have supporting evidence in the world but that still says nothing about your god.
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo and did you really just use marriage as an example to an atheist 0.o.. your religious practice isn't grounded in reality as it is irrational to believe you can pick someone to serve as a life partner in your young adulthood, the point of marriage is to protect resources, even in the wild some primates pick mates to survive and defend territory and resources with.. and of course bearing offspring. I still don't understand what your point is, I've ask you to tie this all in to god...
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo I used the word intentionally to negate the effect your trying to receive from using it... beliefs vary by DEGREE, meaning I can be justified in my beliefs where someone can have no justification for theirs... do you truly believe making the argument that everyone believes in something means that god exists or is even a justified belief? that is such a pathetic weakly grounded argument ...
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo Your example still doesn't address the fact that my job has a history of evidence for existing, god does not.... so my belief that my job will be there tomorrow IS GROUNDED IN REALITY WITH SOUND EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT ITS EXISTENCE.. if I arrive and it is gone that merely proves that unlikely circumstances occur, not that I should speculate every day as to whether my job will be there when I arrive... thats in no way proof or justification for supernatural entities.. now try again...
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
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andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
ratings disabled HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOSER !!
FedorCroCop44 11 months ago
@ElProximo first of all your assuming I'm an empiricist.. and your also assuming I don't possess modern technology capable of receiving a call from my boss to alert my of my job condition.. Sunday night I'm not doing anything I'm going to sleep.. your example is riddled with holes, if I arrive to work Monday its not because I Believed I had work, its because I ACTUALLY DID.. nobody has the foresight to predict these events.. that doesn't mean I believe anything...
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo your not worth my time, continue your delusions. and for the record thats a completely loaded question, you should read up on informal fallacies
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo another quick point, in your comparison between believing I have a job tomorrow and bringing up god is a weak argument, I have plenty of empirical proof of my job, i have paychecks, a schedule, a manager calling me for work.. and even a place of work that I must attend.. so there is no belief or hoping I still have a job..
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo Your trying to redefine atheism to fit your description because it intentionally includes the word believe...but in no definition I've ever found on atheism does it use this word believe....simply because its A-theism, do you understand what the prefix A- means? it means NOT. You cannot name something a belief that is claiming to be absence of belief! that makes no logical sense..sadly your logic is rooted in the false dichotomy that doesn't realize theres a C) no belief either way
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@TheOptimistPrime not believing in something is not a belief..I DON'T believe in your god so explain to me now how that can be a belief. If i told you there is a frog in the sun and you say no there isn't then you are now an A-frog-in-the-sun-ist.. now by that logic we must now define ourselves by every moronic creation of the human mind that you do NOT believe in...the mere term ATHEIST is a joke. Why should I have a title because you want to believe a 2000 year old story? how about you grow up
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@ElProximo Proof is the truth, which truth is evidence. Or rather has to have evidence to make 'truth'.
Do you really want to go down that road of acting like a total douche bag and make egotistic "insults" towards me every time you reply with a comment?
I'm very intelligent actually...And actually, yes I am right. I know what those terms mean. So insult me as you like, in the end you look like a moron saying that atheists have to have faith or have to believe in something to be what they are...
KittyzKatterz 11 months ago
@ElProximo Proof is evidence.
No I make decisions throughout my day based on things I have learned throughout my life. People make actions and decisions based on knowledge of the best possible outcomes. The knowledge is based on past experiences or gathered knowledge from other people. Parents/Books/Media/school/etc. It's called the brain and it's capability of learning.
Your point doesn't make sense. You're saying that living is proof of belief? I don't believe that I'm alive, I know I am....
KittyzKatterz 11 months ago
@TheOptimistPrime Did you know you were born atheist?
So babies have a belief system?
Oh what logic, who knew?....
KittyzKatterz 11 months ago
@ElProximo Tell me what the bible says about how old the Earth is, then tell me how old the Earth actually is.
The bible is the crutch of the Christian religion. The information is wrong, and it's supposedly god's words.
There's your proof that the religion is bullshit.
"I believe (trust in, have faith in, act as if) there is a godless universe"
As I said faith is the belief in something without proof, you can't have faith in evidence that proves the book of Christian religion to be BS. Sorry.
KittyzKatterz 11 months ago
However in a lot of cases the real material can’t be distinguished from the fake material due to their almost identical ignorant and idiotic nature.
The fake material may as well be real, there is plenty of genuinely religious people who think in these terms and much worse.
JaydeeOldBoy 11 months ago
@ElProximo Wrong again. Atheists are not 'convinced beyond a reasonable doubt'. Atheists reject the idea (a creator is still possible in their mind) but the idea is a mystery and thus in their case then rejected until it is proven true.
And as far as the term for belief (believe), in relation to religion, it means "to have confidence or faith in the truth of".
Faith is the belief in something without proof.
So I still don't understand your statement "belief system"?.....
KittyzKatterz 11 months ago
@TheOptimistPrime Atheists don't have a belief system.....
I don't know how many times I've seen idiots continually say this. Atheism is the lack of belief, that's all.
And no, atheists and bible thumpers are totally different - Id figure anyone with at least some intelligent mind would know this...
KittyzKatterz 11 months ago
@KittyzKatterz @ElProximo Atheism is not buying the consept of god.
creationtheory. org/Arguments/Example83
Andy97009814 11 months ago
Oh my she did a good job of fooling thunderfool. she had me fooled too
MicrosoftsourceCode 11 months ago
You fail to realize that even if she is a troll that the religious mind can be so messed up its hard to tell. After all the religious believe all kinds of nutty things.
csadler 11 months ago
Why is rating off?
EthanNin0 11 months ago
she is the fool, that's why she closed her account and Thunderf00t still remain beside by the name of GOD and religions a lot of people have been kill in all times, even the BIBLE said it and that is a fact.
TheChosenPR 11 months ago 7
She's not pretending when she has deleted her account...
dymd3z 11 months ago
The thing is, some religious people actually do think like that. Either that, or they are extremely good trollers.
Andy97009814 11 months ago 5
@Andy97009814 i think they are "life trollers"
andrewmaxcohen 11 months ago
@Andy97009814 - Prove it. Show me a YouTube video of an actual, undeniable Christian who actually thought and said the exact same thing as this disgusting woman from your camp. You, of course, cannot do so because there are no such videos. If there were, Thunderfool and every other atheist on YouTube would've already presented and hammered them. So you are left with relying solely on exactly what you began with: fake material.
JMcH 10 months ago
@Andy97009814 Exactly! Hard to tell when they are being sarcastic or not when there are so many publicized religious nutters. Westboro Baptist anyone?
Satire is typically pointedly obvious to the audience, i.e Stephen Colbert. When the person has so "fooled" near everyone into believing they really are a religious zealot then it's no longer funny and just plain reprehensible.
sinical10 9 months ago
fucking idiot
truthbeats85 11 months ago
:56 its north AFRICA. LOL
Ndizzyinthehizzy 11 months ago
If "true" Christians don't think this way, their wouldn't be any Christians!
wiggy7373 11 months ago
atheists fail under fear
TheBigPicture1 11 months ago
This is not proof that she is a Satirist. She deleted her Channel. If she really wanted to trick people wouldn't she want to stay around and reap the attention? Odds are she was genuine, got a lot of negative attention and possibly threats, got scared, made something up to get people to forget about it and left.
Something about her is pretty sexy though.
Eaglesfaninca 11 months ago
When there are genuine Christians acting like the satirists, then that is when you can't discern between the two. If you have people like Kent Hovind, Nephilimfree, and the entirety of the Westboro Baptist Church, then the line between Satire and Genuine gets so thin it is hard to discern between the two without a smily face.
And people waste their time destroying the insane things people say because they know that other idiots will believe them blindly. like 38% of Americans.
crazyinsane500 11 months ago
38% of Americans recently surveyed believed that the earthquake and tsunamis in Japan were signs from god. 1 girl posts a video PARODYING this widespread belief and she gets a tsunami of abuse (and pizza) from the internet. Fact is anyone claiming to take the bible literally either holds these same beliefs or doesn't know what's in the bible.
RobNurgundy 11 months ago
@RobNurgundy How do you know it's parody? There are more than enough Christians who truly act and "think" just like her.
crazyinsane500 11 months ago
@crazyinsane500 I was a funamentalist christian for 18 years & taught to believe the very things that tamtam parodied in her vids. I watched 1 of her old vids & wondered if she was real so I watched the rest of them. I posted on her channel page saying that her 'Poe act' was very convincing & asked if she had at one stage been a 'fundy'. Also her vid about computer games was a bit of a give away. As I suggested in my comment there are many ppl who hold her beliefs. She wasn't one of them.
RobNurgundy 11 months ago
Fav For sure! Great Job!!!! Excellent!!!
NYatheistlovesjesus 11 months ago
Is the "Thank God for the Japan disaster girl's" post correctly identified as satire? Meaning: "A composition, generally poetical, holding up vice or folly to reprobation; a keen or severe exposure of what in public or private morals deserves rebuke"? I don't think so, unless there are actually people out there who hold this opinion and deserve, therefor, a rebuke.
ryder8910 11 months ago
@ryder8910 Are you not aware of the many people who hold the same opinion? 38% of Americans surveyed believed the Japan disaster was a sign from god. If this had coincided with the final months of WWII then millions of American's would be praising god for sending an answer to their prayers. Perhaps a hurricane decimating parts of Iran is all it would take for these biblical literalists to come out of the closet. What she did was closer to "parody" & since some found it funny it fits the meaning
RobNurgundy 11 months ago
You do realize thunderf00t never said it was a real video? He was showing it as a visual aid for views like this, which are very much true. There are christians who would consider the earthquake as god's message to Japan because they're mostly atheist.
55a03 11 months ago
Is this a satire? Are you honestly defending christian conservatism by attacking journalists who have no reason to doubt the sincerity of these web postings?
The problem is not that the sites are spoofs or that the persons using them were duped into thinking they were real, but that the representations are not distinguishable without the originator stating overtly that they are a spoof. They are far too realistic.
so... Is this a spoof too?
drfoxcourt 11 months ago
nice! thank you!
VyckRo 11 months ago
Thunderf00L? Check his views, now check yours. Check his subs and fans, now check yours. You're fool.
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 LOL! So because he has a hundred thousand subscribers, that makes him right? He was given subscribers by YouTube constantly promoting him. Now who's the fool?
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure You still are. Half the people who like your video dislike it. More than 90% of people like his video. He has more fans for a reason, it doesn't matter if YouTube promotes him, they do for a very good reason.
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 There is nothing more foolish than his foolish followers (such as yourself) giving thumbs down to the videos that expose the truth about him. You can't say anything about those video, so you thumb them down and say that ThunderF00t is right because he has more thumbs up. LOL
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure Actually he has more thumbs up because more people agree with him and less people agree with you. Don't even take it as numbers, take it as a ratio. You're at 51% positive while hes always at 95%+ positive. I watched your video and I disagree with you and think you're an idiot for insulting somebody smarter and better than you. Jealousy is a foul demon, isn't it?
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 You still haven't told us why you disagree with my video. You probably gave it thumbs down before you even watched it. I'm not sure what grade you are in, but the argument that "I'm just jealous," or that he is "smarter and better than me," is quite a juvenile argument.
If these are the kind of arguments you want to make, then okay. You only have 8 subscribers! I have 3,609. ALL of your videos are MORE THAN HALF thumbs down.
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure This isn't about my account or the fact I have no subscribers, don't you remember this is about you insulting THunderf00t. This is what you people do, you are jealous of his fame and intelligence so you insult him and get angry. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 Oh, he was insulted by me? LOL
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure No but usually when you call somebody a fool it's considered an insult. He probably doesn't even know you exist.
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 Well, make up your mind. Did I insult him or not?
Oh no! The almighty ThunderF00t doesn't even know I exist! LOL What grade are you in?
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure Can you read? I said calling a fool means you are insulting somebody. I don't care if he knows you exist or not, Why do you keep referring to grades, I finished my grad studies like 8 years ago. You seem to keep getting more upset over this which easily proves my point. You are jealous because he gets more views and more likes/subscribers than you do. You disagree with something Thunderf00t says so you make a video calling him a fool instead of debating logically.
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 I don't know Fiends4. I believe even the Bible says that anyone who says in his heart that there is no God is himself a fool.
its4it 11 months ago
@its4it "I don't know Fiends4. I believe even the BIBLE SAYS that anyone who says in his heart that there is no God is himself a fool."
Read how I typed the sentence. Fool.
Fiends4 11 months ago
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@its4it "I don't know Fiends4. I believe even *THE BIBLE* says that anyone who says in his heart that there is no God is himself a fool."
You are an idiot, aren't you?
Fiends4 11 months ago
@Fiends4 all this means is that thunderfools followers are a bunch of easily led, faddish sheep. Pointing out how fake and shallow the people who follow him are is definitely not a winning point for your argument.
coyotedkm 11 months ago
@Fiends4 all this means is that thunderfools followers are a bunch of easily led, faddish sheep. Pointing out how fake and shallow the people who follow him are is definitely not a winning point for your argument. It does explain how they all fall for this fake crap, thinking parodies are real and all that. They obviously don't spend much time thinking or paying attention. When you're a shallow fool, you'll fall for any charlatan.
coyotedkm 11 months ago
Funny, how atheists always claim they hate religion because it demands blind obedience and leads to the persecution of others, yet this is exactly what radical atheists like this guy do themselves. This is a perfect example that it is not religion behind the blind obedience, lies and violence. It is radical people, no matter what they are radical about, who demand others agree with them, and the easily led fools who stumble along at the beck and call of the radicals.
coyotedkm 11 months ago
@Fiends4 View/subcount, Feinds4, does not in anyway indicate whether or not someone is a fool.
That's a rather....foolish thing to suggest.
It IS foolish to be duped by a spoof site and treat it as legitimate. Given that Thunderf00t is just some guy on youtube, of no major significance with an audience that is only impressive on youtube, he is more easily forgiven. The folks who research and find material for Rachel's show, on the other hand... someone should have been fired.
CaptainSmallFoot 11 months ago
I see what the real problem is here. When a man ceases to beleive in God, its not that he ceases to believe in everything. He merely becomes more apt to believe anything.
IamTheAntiMartyr 11 months ago
All religion is bullshit. HOLY SHIT ! That didn't require me to make a video and bore the shit out of anybody.
TimmyHaag 11 months ago
In his video, TF did say that it didn't matter whether the girl in the video was a troll or not because this is the kind of things christians say. You disagreed saying no christian would ever say such a thing.
Try the following search in Google (without the quotes): "cindy jacobs blames japan's earthquake on dragon worship".You might be surprised at the result - the rest of us probably won't be.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke You make the assumption that Pentecostal heretics who mix voodoo with warped private interpretations of scripture and babble in their parishes are an accurate representation of the children of the gospel.
Oh yes, I know, I'm using the "No True Scotsman" and blah blah blah.
hellsunicorn 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn "Pentecostal heretics" - because only YOU have the truth, right? Everyone else is wrong. What do you think the "Pentecostal heretics" would say if you asked them whether or not they or you were interpreting the scripture correctly? I think I could guess with a reasonable expectation of success.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
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Thanks for pointing out that christians are all a bunch of trolls.
Slotzan 11 months ago
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Slotzan 11 months ago
"Even if this girl was not a troll... her words do no define the meaning of Christianity. Anyone saying such horrific thinks is not a Christian." Really? The "no true Scotsman" argument? What about proposing that all abortions should be performed in a public square - or don't you consider your idol Lila Rose to be a Christian?
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke What about someone saying on their YT channel that they hope they would be prepared to kill their child if god told them to? What about the stuff the Phelps family comes out with - rejoicing at the funerals of soldiers? Not real Christians? You look at what they say and it matches the Christian bible perfectly. The problem with your "no true Christian would" argument is that they very much "would" - and indeed "do".
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@that bloke The Phelps family is nothing but a hate group. They are falsely reported (from people like Rachel Maddow) as being a Christian organization, just as they are falsely reported as "protesting." They are not "protesting" anything. It's just hate speech.
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure "The Phelps family is nothing but a hate group". They quote directly from the Bible and are just more honest about it than the other christians who like to sugar coat things because they realise just how violent and intolerant their religion is in its native form. There are very few christians who follow the alleged teachings of Jesus - if they did they would sell all their possessions, give their money to the poor and devote their lives to helping their fellow human beings.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke lol You just did exactly what the Phelps family does on a daily basis, twisting a few verses in order to fit in with your own biased worldview. Do tell me how your limited understanding of Christ's challenge to the rich man proposing to be his disciple squares with the parables of the master's servants and their investments of the talents given, or the book of Proverbs' teachings about how those who work will prosper.
hellsunicorn 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn "You did exactly what the Phelps... twisting a few verses in order to fit in with your own biased worldview" Thank you so much for making my point - please try and take it on board. That's exactly the issue here - that you can (and do) cherry pick and selectively reinterpret the scripture so that it agrees with what you've already decided is true.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke So here you have taken the parables of the talents and Proverbs' teachings about how those who work will prosper so that it agrees with your materialistic desires, rather than taking a spiritual view. So that means you can work hard so that you can buy loads of stuff and resent paying any tax to help those less well off because they are the "undeserving poor". How convenient.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke lol You would have to presuppose God's existence in order for the "kill you're own child" thing to work, then you would have to understand that the canon is closed, that Issac's sacrifice was a type and shadow of Christ's coming sacrifice (ergo, God's promise that Issac would rule the Hebrews suggests that Issac's death would not have been permanent), and so on.
Typical atheist, insisting on babbling your opinions on things you have zero understanding of.
hellsunicorn 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn "you would have to presuppose God's existence in order for the 'kill your own child' thing to work". Sadly, that is not the case. All that is required is for someone to believe, beyond a doubt, that the voices they hear in their head come from God. That's it - actual existence of that god is not required.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn I'm not going to argue scripture with you because a) I'm no expert on the Bible by any means; b) it is irrelevant because Christians can - and do - cherry pick and selectively reinterpret their scripture to mean whatever they want it to mean. If someone believes that God is speaking to them and asks them to do the unthinkable they have to make a decision - go with what God says, or disobey it - regardless of what is said in the scripture.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke Sorry. You are wrong. A christian asks themselves what Christ would do. Christ would not have abortions in public squares. Christ would pray with the familys of dead soldiers...not protets them. Let me guess...your only experience with Christians is over the internet right?
IamTheAntiMartyr 11 months ago
@IamTheAntiMartyr I think your definition of what a Christian SHOULD be is closer to mine that it is for many people who would call themselves Christian. "What would Jesus do?" - well, I think Jesus would treat people with compassion, kindness, generosity, tolerance and forgiveness. I believe that Jesus would expect us to do whatever we can to help those in need. That Jesus would not want us to judge other people harshly simply because they are different or we disagree with them.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke Those are all the characteristics I would expect from a "true" Christian - and they are the characteristics I see in most of the Christians that I know. Unfortunately, there are plenty of Christians out there who are hateful, judgemental, greedy and bigoted. You might not consider them "true" Christians. I certainly don't see behaviour that is at odds with how I would expect a Christian to behave. If you ask them, though, the would certainly consider themselves "true" Christians.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke That was one of the points Thunderfoot was making. That the horrible things this woman was saying were, although it turns out not said by Christian, indistinguishable from things said and done by people who DO claim to be Christians and do so genuinely.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke oops "don't see behaviour" should read "do see behaviour"
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke Okay, this is WAY off topic, but Lila Rose was saying that as long as abortions are legal, they should be done in a public square, so that women could see how horrific they are, and choose life.
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure You've kind of missed the point. When TF used a poe as an example of christian thinking he said that it didn't matter whether she was genuine or not because this is the kind of horrible thing that some christians come outwith. Lila Rose's suggestion that women who have abortions should have it done in the public square - something she is entirely serious about - is horrible. It is just as mean and crazy as anything the troll said.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke You seem to have skipped over completely Cindy Jacobs' claims that the Japanese earthquake was probably down to their unchristian ways. I don't think Cindy Jacobs' is a poe - which is the scary thing. This madwoman is deadly serious and even more scary there is no shortage of people who agree with her. All of whom would call themselves "christian".
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke Cindy Jacobs, by your own admission, represents "some Christians", ergo she has no real relevance since we are condemning an entire faith, not just one or two media whores who claim a certain faith.
hellsunicorn 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn As far as you are concerned Cindy Jacobs is not a "true Christian". If you asked her whether she considered herself to be a true Christian, what would she say?
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke Excuse me? Some Christians? I thought we were talking about Christianity here, as in the whole faith endorsing this stuff. Can you make up your mind please.
hellsunicorn 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn "I thought we were talking about Christianity here, as in the whole faith endorsing this stuff." You might have been - I certainly wouldn't make that claim. I'm not even sure there is a "Christianity" that you could identify as a single religion. Once again - since it obviously bears repeating - there are truly evil and deranged people out there who claim to be Christians genuinely believing that to be the truth. They have not shortage of people who would agree that they are.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
@thatgaybloke Do you even know how to properly apply the "No True Scotsman" fallacy? Any one can go around claiming to be a Scotsman, but it is null and void unless the person is of actual Scottish descent and is also identified as a Scottish national (ergo someone of even perfect Scottish genetic lineage can not be of the culture if they've lived in and are a citizen of another country). Now, apply this same reasoning to a self-proclaimed Christian who contradicts every tenant of the faith.
hellsunicorn 11 months ago
@hellsunicorn I think the no true Scotsman fallacy is valid in this instance in spite of Ms Troll not actually being a Christian. The point you seem to be unable to grasp is that although she was parodying nut case Christians, there are actually people out there who claim to be Christians and who say this kind of stuff. Poe's law.
thatgaybloke 11 months ago
well...all I can is. B*tch.
crimsonJADEDfang 11 months ago
Fascinating. Notice how she can hardly contain her glee. She's so delighted that she has found something that so strongly confirms her stuck-up prejudices that she can't see how phony it is. Any true Christian recognizes instantly that this thing was inauthentic. But people like Maddow actually think this is how Christians think. Pathetic.
dennis345 11 months ago
Ratings disabled cuz you know it will be the steamiest pile of shit ever uploaded. fuck off and die you slime
fr3d420 11 months ago 11
@fr3d420 Atheist wants me to die. lol
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
LOL why didnt u make the video the same day he made it? dont jump the conclusions after conclusions are made dumbass
wmaxx3 11 months ago
@wmaxx3 Some of us have jobs, and lives to live. It takes time to put together a video like this. But you wouldn't know about that.
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
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@AWorldExposure LOL YOU DONT ANSWER MY QUESTION
wmaxx3 11 months ago
The point of the video by Thunderf00t, is that you can find the most despicable and disgusting comment about a Human event, then compare it to what religious leaders with millions of followers say, and one then will realize that they are around the same level or even worse.
frank25599 11 months ago
lol... by Invading Egypt you are protecting america's interest in North America....
Hrafnsmerki1 11 months ago
I'm not sure you can call 4chan followers of Tf00t, they're more like a pack of jackals looking for easy marks on the internet.
l337pwnage 11 months ago
Talk about quote mining....
The thing that Tf00t said IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS was: "Now, to an extent, if this girl is surreal or not is an irrelevance. The mere fact that you cannot tell shows how messed up this is."
That was him stating that he suspected or even knew she was a troll and said that it didn't really matter... the fact that you could totally believe her to be a devout theists because this is exactly the kind of insane cruel B.S. that you can hear come out of their rotten mouthes.
DavySigfusson 11 months ago
If everyone was apathiest, we'd have fewer problems.
donkeyfieldmouse 11 months ago
I doubt if this gals docs were being dropped. And i spoofed that: /watch?v=EuYGKt-Vky4
robertmike57 11 months ago
What a laughable video.
Here's a story for you: A video, filled with extreme Christian nuttiness (most religions have the same level of nuts), filters onto youtube, people watch it and comment. More people watch the video, eventually people like TF watch it and say "Whoa, what a crazy Christian bitch!" after several million people watch it.
People like AWE say: "CHERRY PICKING CRAZY FAKE CHRISTIANS!"
Lollocide 11 months ago
So she was a troll. I don't really get what you're bitching about. There are lots of people of the christian and other faiths who are just as crazy or crazier than this chick was pretending to be.
jgarza15770 11 months ago
I just Viewed ThunderF00t video about her!!! I can't believe i felt for it!!!
I hate this damn world and its trolls!!!
AlvaroAndfriends 11 months ago
you can not have watched the whole video. why don you respond to what pat robertson said. FOOL!
oskarkeyser 11 months ago
@oskarkeyser Do you know how to read? 2:33 "Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell never prayed for, or rejoiced in, the 9/11 attacks."
AWorldExposure 11 months ago
@AWorldExposure
That troll never "prayed" for God to "cause the earthquake in Japan" too. She just "prayed" for "God to open the eyes of atheists" and the coincidental earthquake that followed a couple of days later was "assumed" to be "God answering prayers". Had any other major world event happened, I am 100% sure that the "assumption" would have been the same.
Pardon the quotation marks, I'm using them strictly in response to that girl's fake prayer.
Spetsop 11 months ago
I don't think at any point TF evaded reason, yes he shouldn't of included that video in the first place he is appealing to an example, but you can see what the theme of the video was minus the tasteless satire.. Whilst science is inventing preventatives and helping hands, religion is blaming and condemning minorities whilst reinforcing prejudice. You do not refer to this message in your video, you should.
Howieeeeex 11 months ago
in Tfoots defense... he says IN THE DESCRIPTION of the video in question he says the girl is a Poe, or "basically a satirical christian". and in the video he makes the point of its sad that people can watch a video like that and actually speculate about if its satire or not. i am NOT a big Tfoot fan, but this video of yours is the misleading one, or out of context. yes he uses fake material, but thats the point he makes. did you watch it?
WorkableWizard 11 months ago
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I'd like to ask: What's your defense against Thunderf00t's vid 7.10 mins in where genuine Christians say they "truly believe that" the 9/11 horrors were aided by gays, abortionists, feminists, pagans and atheists for making God "mad". How is that different to what the GirlTroll said, except that he meant it and she didn't?
Some bible nut please answer the nice ladies polite question?
Infinitpossibilities 11 months ago 2