Lotus Notes 8: New features demonstration

[i8ntnice]

Very buggy software. The reason so many CSU campus's are now ditching Lotus. I am very happy about that. No more headaches, and wondering what they heck were they thinking when they coded this product. Too many features that are useless, do not function properly, or cause other features to fail. Not to mention the 5 min wait when it tries to connect to the mail server after a period of non use, always much faster to close apps and reboot than wait for Lotus.

[littn11]

great clip .. keep it up thanks

[Erschone]

I would expect IBM to present the video in HD. The qualtiy of the video is lousy.

[Creativision02]

@Erschone This video is 4 years old..

[dplees]

and you still need a server to run the client!

[gelenta]

I must say Lotus 8 is the cats meow. And Notes is way more robust than that other product.

[pootranon]

hahaha preview on side note which is similar to other email client on the maket..... hahaha Lotus notes is suck accept it

[bax75p]

Oh comme j'aimerai avoir le temps d'exprimer tout le mal que je pense de cette énorme daube.

Signé : un utilisateur écoeuré par le temps perdu à utiliser ce truc mal foutu, moche, non standard, ni convivial, ni ergonomique. 

[hrbear]

I was woking with a previous version of Notes at my job, I can say it wasn't a good experience, because something was going wrong with the mail server. Notes was telling me that mail was delivered, and the customers did not received my mails. Again I say it was the mail server, but I expected from the program to tell me of the fail delivery. Outlook express is simpler and easy to use, and I also liked very much the old Netscape's Collabra, which is discontinued. Thunderbird is not as good as Col

[ibmtharun]

great work

[guitar255]

Excellent Presentation. Give a concise view of the package!

[e4rthw0rm]

the recall feature is awesome

[superolo69]

Lotus is Crap! Incompatable with even simple Outlook messages! Microsoft is mayby not the best corp in the World but you can simple work with it and do things.

[unmedication]

I add my opinion to yours. Lotus Notes 8.5 (on Linux) has become a fantastic buuuuullshit. Over 600 MB for an installation. Sluggish, so many useless tabs (RSS reader wtf !?) In short I used to like it but since v6.5 it stinks. IBM lost his touch in making "austere but inventive" softwares.

[jazzzdude]

the one thing i want to be able to do in Notes that I can't now is drag mail from my online mailbox to an offline mail folder instead of having to cut and paste, but it doesn't mention that here.

[ozdesmo]

You can use the archive functionality to achieve this by marking messages you want to move and selecting Actions/ Archive / Archive selected documents. Just setup your "off-line" mail file as the archive target first.

[jazzzzdude]

Thanks but I can do that in Notes 6.5. Selecting mails and then having to carry out three consecutive actions i.e. Actions/Archive/Archive Selected is very cumbersome. I want to be able to drag and frop emails on-the-fly from my online folders to my offline folders like I can in Outlook/Thunderbird/Kmail etc. This is one of the biggest failings of Notes as far as I am concerned. It might seem trivial to many people but it would make my job much quicker.

[timothyrreeves]

OOOoooh. Threads. Wow. Like other e-mail clients had years ago. Woop-de-doo. I've got Lotus Notes 7 right now and I hate it. I'm hoping for some real improvements. Like why can't I synchronize my address book when I've got the bloody address book open?!

[DwightMo]

Actually, Notes uses a sub-view that keys of a unique identifier of conversations. This is different than simply sorting by subject. Additionally, the subject is not shown in the conversation sub-view, it is replaced by the more useful abstract (first 100 characters of the body). The sub-view makes it very easy to skim through the threads quickly and get to the information that you want. This is far superior way to view threads than anything that I've seen in other email products.

[pmenadue]

Gee, some great features Outlook/Exchange had, oh, 5 years ago+

Which explains why customers are migrating from Notes in droves.

IBM has made some valiant efforts to regain from the stagnant period after Notes 4/5, but too little too late.

[pleyenterprise]

Notes wins on function, Outlook win on e-mail user interface. Notes is much more than a e-mail client. there is no comparison.

[wazoome]

Your product looks interesting, but one comment. You may use terms like "user interfaces" and "plug ins" and "end users" in your business speak, but if you could tone down the techie speak just a tad, your message might reach a greater audience. I found myself trying to move from my everyday speak to your tech jargon and missing the actual function. Try simple English. It works well with a larger audience.

[aftereffects]

Outlook rules everything because it is used everywhere, just like Word. Whats the point in using Lotus or anything else.

[astokka]

A lot of companies use Lotus Notes exclusively. Outlook is in use by probably more, but in a corporation setting and not on a personal use level, lotus notes is very popular. When I worked at 3M for example, that was their e-mail client of choice.

[mtc2300]

That doens't make it better or user friendly. We also use Notes, and it's the worst programmed piece of software ever. At my former employer we used Outlook, and Outlook is absolutely the cream of the crop.

[nicklinn]

By that metric a ford taurus is better then a ferrari enzo. And the cockroach is better then humans by a factor of about a million. Popularity alone is only useful to trendies and idiots and I got a feeling you fit in the later.

[aftereffects]

You make no sense and I get the feeling you're a retard.

[bastardjunkie]

You often see more cheap cars than expensive ones... They're everywhere, but I bet you don't like them more than a Ferrari, Lamborghini or other expensive ones... That's a stupid thing to say

[aftereffects]

This isn't a question of what you "like". I said Outlook RULES everything because everyone uses it. The worst thing ever in the IT world is incompatability.

[elwyn14]

Your right, Lotus Notes can't email to someone who uses an Outlook client. There is no such thing as mail protocols or any architecture design behind any mailing system, certainly not outlook. Everything is incompatable, SMTP etc doesn't exist, they are just myths.

Seriously, WHAT are you talking about!

[aftereffects]

Forget it, you're obviously a "fanboy" of a program that nobody uses.

[elwyn14]

I don't even like Notes, it has its benefits and problems like anything else. But your argument that outlook is somehow more compatible is flawed... oh so badly flawed.

The fact that you use words like 'fanboy' shows that your probably a 16 year old kid that knows nothing. Its pretty simple, the product wouldn't exist if no one used it. Seriously, whats wrong with you, stop talking.

[aftereffects]

But you can't stop yourself from replying, so whos the "kid" now? Fool.

[ozdesmo]

Corporate market share for Notes / Domino is about 42% and for Outlook / Exchange about 45% according to the last Gartner survey. I wouldn't say that means "everybody" uses Outlook, maybe just your friends or business. You shouldn't just make blanket statements based on your limited experience or knowledge. Notes and Outlook can interact, that's what standards like iCal and SMTP are for.

[GrimeCoreSafe]

It's obvious that you are attempting to be clever & witty but it just comes across as pathetic & desperate.

[hkoppel]

blurry image, why bother?

[qwertyu123123]

No one in their right mind sending a document that only minorities can open. You send a "Lotus" document to clients or creditors, you may get complaint because they can't open it straightaway without involving 'techies'. Bye bye Lotus live in your own world.

[Computersloth]

If your technical skills are up to par with your mastery of the English language, I don't doubt you need help from 'techies' every time you open up ANY e-mail.

[bignod55]

Outlook is a good email client, but Notes 8 is way better. I've been using it for 2 months and it has capabilities that are far greater than email (but unfortunately, they are difficult to describe in a sound-byte).

[sedative3145]

What is this a email client.  Why do people use notes?

[jrbungit]

Congrats IBM! You have finally caught up to Microsoft Outlook 2003. Keep going. Perhaps by 2010 you can catch up the Outlook 2007? Perhaps IBM should take the advice they provide in their "innovation" and "execution" advertisements and have their consulting force work with their own company on actually delivering new features that their competitors have not had forever.

[terror2002]

bill can lick my ass^^ microsoft suck balls... all they do is copy! and they don't even do that right...

[Swizzler121]

I work at a Computer store, we help customers set up mail programs, we STRONGLY suggest that they delete outlook, because it is clunky, unorganized and doesn't work. we either let them use outlook express, Thunderbird, or lotus.

[Computersloth]

They've had something MS has never had in Outlook. Security. Lotus Notes is nothing for your average home user, its for businesses concerned about security and the database features are not bad, either. Don't get me wrong...at home I use Thunderbird which beats the living piss out of Outlook or Lotus any day, but Lotus DOES have its niche...

[lobot666]

Nice video, but... in the imitable words of Beavis "You can't polish a turd dude!" The interface is still a nightmare, font adjustment needs to be done via the notes.ini file (what user wants to mess with this?!?), contact management is still archaic and unusable (where are the vCards folks?), why does it take so many clicks to make basic changes to the user environment? And on and on...

[unumbnut]

too bad its not bill. I have been a Lotus Fan for 12 years. This is a sad, sad build. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty and has cool functionality, but if you don't have a really up to date computer... You will not be happy with how this perfoms. I'm running a 1.7GHz machine with 2 GB ram, local replicas and its really slow. I'm sure it runs great on any dual core machine or a machine that is over 3GHz... But you'll still need the ram.

[Computersloth]

Did you try compacting your workspace? I've not used LN8 yet, but the older versions require hands-on maintenance for optimal performance.

[agonza70]

Hello Bill!!!!

[stemoney]

These are handy videos, tell you exactly what you want to know. keep them coming!

[rfelp]

nice. looks waaaay better than previous versions

[HorridFroth]

Looks like Office 2000 to me. BTW - I've heard of Ad Sponsorship, but this is ridiculous!

[eyetalix]

Not bad guys. Keep up the good work.