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  • Smacks of Freedom

  • OK, I am now convinced 30mm cannon would have been better on this platform.

  • This plane just screams badass and tough, being able to take a punch. In MMA terms, this plane had a hell of a chin. No wonder the warthog was named the thunderbolt II

  • if Harley Davidson made planes.....this is what they would have come up with...

  • Bloody beautiful!!!!!

    

  • there is nothing like seeing and hearing them in person. do yourself a favor and go hear a real WWII plane. Reallife piston and jet engines cannot be duplicated in a theatre or on the internet.

  • Nothin`compares to a sturdy P-47 :) If I ever had to fight in a WWII fighter I`d for sure pick a Jug before anything else.... I wanna return alive...and not go down with style in a P-51 haha

  • Look at those big ole hemis coming to life!!

  • i have p- 47 toy

  • The JUG, the fighter version of the B-17. It could take a massive amount of hits and still bring the pilot home.

  • My uncle was an engineer who designed the P-47, he was the person who designed the gear and the tail section.

  • @lefdepord you'r oncle? he must have been very young back then...

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  • my favorite American fighter of the war...i would take one of these over a 51 any day

  • @Brian79camino Same here, the JUG was much well armoured, I'd trust my life with it.

  • Pratt & Whitney R2800 18 Cylinder Double Wasp! Arguably the greatest engine of WWII.

  • @TV843 I thouthg it was the XIV 2220?? a 16 cylinder chrystler hemi?

  • @o56kid Nope. The XIV 2220 was a liquid cooled "V" engine, whereas the Double Wasp is an air cooled. dual-bank radial, as you see above--the open, round nose tells the story. It's cool that you mentioned the XIV 2220, though because it was used on a converted P-47 as a prototype of the P-47 "H"--a model that never saw service due to end of the war and the dawning of the jet age. The Double Wasp was also used on the F4U Corsair.

  • @TV843 Cool. I learned about the XIV 2220 reading about the birth and time line of Chrystlers' hemispherical motor.

  • @TV843 Congrats on being one of the few people to actually help someone instead of being an ass. My hats off to you sir, more people should learn from you!

  • what a great gathering of warbirds. Was Dale Snodgrass flying the F-86?

  • In the movie "Thunderbolt" when the 47s start up they sound like AA fuel dragsters. But when they get to the end of the runway the roar is just awesome and I mean that in the real sence of the word.

  • love the jug. One of these in the hands of a skilled pilot could destroy any spitfire.

    All they need to do is dive, as the spitfire had a bad habit of cutting the engine in a steep dive.

  • my grand father flew in 17's. the bombers called the 47 the milk jug

  • Amazing planes. The P-47 was the biggest, heaviest single engine fighter of the entire war. You put that thing into a dive and it'll drop like a goddamn refrigerator. They could take one hell of a beating too

  • Six people are in Panzer Crews. Seriously, who would dislike this???

  • Personally I prefer P-47 to P-51 Mustang. I think he's more versatile.

    He fought nearly as well as mustangs vs planes and he has 2 advantages : he's so strong and resistant (its engine too), it has eight 0,50 MG in its wings and can carry many weapons like bombs, rockets or additional petrol tanks.

    Great great plane. One of the most significant planes in the war history.

  • Best sound on a piston engine ever.

  • This gives me wood.

  • The P-47 came into its own at high altitudes. It was fast and could hit hard. It was unbeatable in a dive, using its weight to its own advantage (much like a Mack truck going downhill.) The biggest disadvantage was limited range, it just couldn't escort bombers all the way to Germany and back. That job fell to the P-51s which followed the Jugs in this video. Excellent video, by the way, especially the cameo of thge F-86 and Mig 17.

  • Can you imagine an entire flightline of 20 + of these starting up for a mission? I always loved listening to our jets all starting on a flight-deck for 1st launch of the day... AHHHH. Makes any old aircraft maintainer proud.

  • @mgwilliams1000

    Watch the movie "Catch 22". The opening sequence is made up of some fifteen B-25s starting their engines and taking off. One of the best scenes in movie history (At least in my eyes, or should I say ears...) I'm sorry I have to say that the rest of the film sucks, though

  • Can you imagine an entire flightline of 20 + of these starting up for a mission? I always loved listening to our jets all starting on a flight-deck for 1st launch of the day... AHHHH.

  • You could say that in its ground attack role the P-47 lives on in todays A-10

  • I love this stuff!! Have to consider ourselves lucky to see such graceful planes still flying and entertaining!! And think another 10 15 years you may never see one of these fly again!!!

  • NICE JUGS!!!!......

  • never thought the jug was much for looks - tough and ugly - but that checkerboard scheme rocks.

  • the jug is a beast

  • Oh yeah..give me a radial eng any day! Not only for that sound, but also for the dependability. The P-47 was the better fighter, it was faster, had a higher kill ratio, and could withstand a lot of punishment.

  • The P-51 was a great aircraft but the Republic Aviation P-47 could take alot more hits and bring the pilot home. The same reason all of the U.S. Navy's carrier based aircraft were air cooled during WWII. One chunk of flak or a bullet any were in the liquid cooling system and you were going down.

  • Gotta love those 18 cylinders!

    This is pure music to my ears, sounds as good as the Continental C4 that we put in our Shermans!

  • i could fall asleep listening to that. beutiful noise

  • Is the blue nosed P-51 Bob Patton's? He's out of Nashville, I believe. Was out in a Cessna 172 in mid TN one morning a few yrs back and he flew his Mustang in right before we landed. Was awesome to be out sharing the sky with the real deal that morning.

  • The sound of a radial--can it get any better???!!!!

  • @piperdriver83 no..it can't

  • @piperdriver83 only the sound of two radials is better, or three

  • damn..3 p47.3 p 51s..an a beautiful p40..ill tell ya though one of the coolest planes iv ever seen fly is the mosquito.the wooden wonder.

  • Those are some nice jugs... heh, couldn't resist. 

  • You have gotta LOVE the sounds of a big Pratt lighting up!

  • Id take that old P-40 Warhawk over all of them :D

  • I need those engines for my motorcycle!

  • This  is a very good video, very well done

  • great

  • that was a great airshow

  • wow what a chunky engine sound. Nice. Harley can only dream of that sound.

  • All wonderous aircrafts..I had a P-47 Razorback RC Plane That I flew for a while back in the 70's.. One day while on take off the engine overheated and failed full power..putting her back on the ground was a handful...later an older gentleman who flew a real one watched my problem told me that that was an exact replica of how they flew when in that situation...I love the beauty of those old warbirdds. although, lets not forget the horror and gief that these machines inflicted

  • lol at the beginning its like a bunch of old men trying to get an erection

  • I dont give a crap which airplane is better, they were both outstanding aircraft and it took balls to pilot both.

  • they dont sound as nice as the mustang imo...

  • Not extremeley manuverable but you know what? These babies could survive almost anything. Alot more German pilots would have been aces but most of the time they fruitlessly emptied their guns on a single P-47!!!

  • @Tabby266 yes and when you are in a war staying alive tends to be important. I think all of her (theP-47) leading aces survived the war.

  • I hear of a dogfight between jogs vs mig-15 in korea is that true? nice video!

  • P51 at high altitude and the P47 at anything below it. 25k The Merlin and it's radiator wouldn't tolerate hits from even rifle caliber rounds. The P47 was every bit as important IMO as the stang because it was the only thing a panther and or a tiger and it's crew feared. You don't win wars in dogfights you win them by laying waste to the enemy's tanks and soldiers and that's what the 47 did. In short the P47 was a self escorting divebomber.

  • Stubborn engine this P&W 2800. Needs one minute to clean up. White smooke(water burning), blue smoke (oil burning), black smoke (gasoline burning) amd running....

    Only Schilling`s plane LM-S took wrong start up procedure and getting late.

  • The 47 can take it, kinda puts all bets off.

  • So in a dog fight, who would win, the 47 or the 51?

  • P51 in a dogfight in lower altitudes. In higher altitudes I dont know..

  • It would be about the same. The P-47 would out-dive the P-51 because the P-47 had a superiority dive rate that was superior to a lot of aircraft in World War II, including many German fighters.

    It depends more on the pilot, really. Because it goes back to the old saying, "It's the man, not the machine."

    It all depends on the quality of the guy flying it, rather than the plane itself.

    You see what I'm saying?

  • the p47, because the 51 will unload all the ammo on the p 47 without giving a scratch on the paint :P

  • if given choices to fly WW II acft into combat and your life depend upon it, I'd choose P47 over any other acft anyday!

  • the P47 was a darn good plane and someone told me that the p47 weighs the same as saber or some of the earlier jets . I am not sure if its true but i could beleive it though.

  • p-47 empty weight 9,900 lb

    f-86 empty weight 13,822..

    im sure fully loaded the p-47 weighs more then a loaded 86.. hell of an aircraft way better then a 51

  • Would have been better if the USAF had used the p-47 for air to ground in Korea instead of the p-51, can carry a heavier load, more survivable to ground fire than the p-51

  • @wmichswingers The P-47's were probably at the end of their service life but, there were still plenty of P-51's in good shape after WW2.

  • @wmichswingers the only thing the mustang can do better then the thunderbolt is it can go farther

  • I could believe it. These things are HUGE.

  • great sight to see, thanks for the upload :)

  • Heh. There are a couple of videos on Youtube of ol' Red Nose giving her owners some trouble on start up :)

  • jdhiner1, That is a random statement! Who cares.

  • Great video..thanks !

  • That P-47 that had trouble starting is an M model I think. Slightly different engine than the D series.

  • They were more like the A10 of WW2 good tank busters

  • It's the direct predecessor in fact. They even share the same name. P-47 Thunderbolt, A-10 Thunderbolt II. "Warthog" is just a nickname. The P-47 was nicknamed "Jug."

  • it's my favorite plane of all time. Simply awesome and maybe the most powerful fighter of the ww2

    Flying a P-47, any pilot felt sure to back home ;)

  • Their reputation for poor maneuverability was only partly deserved. It was originally designed more as a lightweight plane. But early loss reports over Europe prompted designers to massively uprate the armor and armaments, and the result was far heavier, with reflexes that were dulled. Still, the plane was more than competitive in the skies, and coupled with the powerful R2800 motor and an uncanny ability to absorb punishment, it was a good plane as well as one of the fastest of the war.

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  • this plane flu at speeds

    of 470 miles per hour with top manuverablebility with it's massive size

  • I remember reading somewhere that the initial RAF pilots that were given P-47's (early incarnations of them) to fly complained about maneuvaribility and rate of climb when compared to the Spitfire, Hurricane, Mustang et al. That might be where people are getting this "poor for maneuverability" thing from.

  • It was with these ''poor manuverable'' planes that the Tuskegee airmen escorted and they never lost a plane

  • it was well manuverable...

  • you bet they lost planes to the luftwaffe. check it.

  • Poor maneuverability my ass. Maybe compared to a mustang or spitfire but they were phenomenal. All systems have good points and bad. I saw a 47 pilot on the history channel that overtook a 109 in a turn and shot him down. Jugs were outstanding. The gummint got rid of them because they suck gas.

  • Actually the Air Force got rid of them because they considered them obsolete. They wanted jets instead.

  • @tomtheplumber If a P47 ever overtook a 109 then that was because of poor piloting skills of that german pilot. A P47 CANNOT EVER outturn a 109 with an equal energy state.

  • @flexyco Depends on altitude, weather, model, set-up, etc. 109 is a fine plane. Not the equal of the Jug.

  • @iowa61 No, It just can't. A P47 can outdive, outfly and outroll a Bf109, never outturn or outclimb. No matter what altitude or weather or model. Okay, a 1944 P47 D27 can outclimb a 1940 Bf109 E7 if running with water injection. The P47 is too heavy and loses a huge amount of energy if it tries to outturn a Bf109. Even the FW190. It's all about wingload folks.

  • @tomtheplumber

    darn right, the jug was a damn good fighter, durable as all hell and could perform good, especially for its size.

  • @tomtheplumber

    You're right. If the Mustang cost to operate was a "1", then the P-38 was a 2 and the T-bolt was a 1.5. After the war the US didn't want or have the the money to keep the P-47 in front line service so they gave them all to the Air Guard. They would have been great ground attack planes in the Korean War, much better than the Mustangs. Turning is over rated. The 47 was one of the best planes in rolling, and rolling is all you need to do to line up a target or avoid hostile fire.

  • @windswords3 Great summary.

  • Indestructible Jugs, for the win.

  • Nice video, love these birds!

  • Bad Mother Fuckers right here! Love to see these planes in service again but the fuckers in the government say it's obsolete...Well I say it's still damn good at what it used to do!

  • is that jet in the video a f-86?

  • The first one, yes, is a F-86. The black one following, MiG17.

  • i thought the black one was a mig but i didnt want to be tar and feathered for calling an f-86 a mig.

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  • @jkcook28 spot on lad, i picked the same before i read your post. though initially i thought the 17 was a 15, but revised it when i saw the wing and tail shape better.

  • Sweeet. Imagine hundreds of these babies flying over and you understand why the germans feared these beasts. Not even a direct hit to the engine could stop these planes. They were groundpounders supreme. Man, I love P-47s!!

  • true, but they were poor for maneuverability. it's kind of a toss up tho, but i think being faster and more maneuverable would be better than being a tank.

  • Pure Sex!

  • This stuff makes the expensive cost my IP service well worth it to me. They canceled our aerospace ok show this year. At least that's what I heard.

  • wunderfull,i like too sie ,usa wunderfoll

  • now, this, the "Jug" is a tank in the air!!! luv this warbird!!!

  • but I like Mustangs and love P-40s too! :)

  • Very nice video of ones of my favourite airplanes of World War II and with beautiful sound of their 2800 HP engines... :)

  • Those baby's look so mean! What a delight to see them living!

  • Sings to the soul!

  • what an awesome sight

  • sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • i love your fat p 47 and all radial ww2 engines!

  • Boy those Pratts did not want to wake up, a couple little coughs, spit out a little smoke out and then she wants to wake up.

  • splendit

  • Love the P-47. For anyone interested the Fighter Groups depicted on the aircraft from left to right are the 353rd (yellow and black diamonds) the 78th (black and white checks) and the 56th (red band on nose). All were 8th Air Force Groups primarily engaged in bomber escort duties.Nice vid.

  • AWESOME !!!

  • I've always wanted to see the Michigan show but it coincides often with the Pontiac Nationals car show in Ohio.

  • good oh p-51 starts right up

  • Sometimes

  • ...Nice airplanes..in serious need of a tune-up..lol

  • Wrong. The bubble canopies were first used

    on the "D" version. The P-47 went all the

    way up to the "N" version. The later models

    were longer to add more fuel tanks. That

    plus they used drop tanks.

  • Impressive! One can only imagine what a squadron of these bad boys firing up & taking off for a close air support mission over 1945 nazi Germany sounded like.

  • my brother flies for the confederate airforce. converterd zero fighter number 114

  • These look like early versions of the P-47

    because of the short fusilages.

  • Wrong, earlier versions did not have the full bubble canopy you see here. Those are rare birds indeed and I'm not certain if any are still flying today.

  • Amazing !! Just Amazing !! BTW I wonder if the owners of these P-47s (or any war-birds) are allowed to have the functioning 50 cal guns in the wings!! Can they?? or do they ???

  • No, you cannot legally arm an aircraft.

  • In the WW2, one Jug took more than 200 hits

    (7,62mm)by a FW190, and return home, landing, repair... and flight again later. Incredible plane

  • Wrong. FW190's were armed with 7.92mm machine guns on the cowl not 7.62mm. They also were armed with 20mm cannons in the wings. Heavy duty fire power for bringing down B17's & Liberators.

  • I mistaken, it's true the 7,62mm was a allies caliber, thanks for the info! Bye

  • The way I see it... During WWII if you didn't love the P-47 your military ID status was KIA

  • Get those 190s yeah!

  • Just like a woman..takes a little to get her motor running,but once it starts...look out!!Man I love P-47s!

  • gotta love that United States Heavy Fighter

    JUGGERNAUGHT

  • awesome;;;I love this youtube,where else I could see this?

  • i like this music

  • OMG THE best vid on youtube!

    OOOOOHHHH yeah baby!

    Pratt & Whitney double Wasp.

    damn that sounds good.

    5*

  • I played this through surround sound as I watched it...wow.

  • are there any razorbacks still flying? i did see one at the chino airshow 08

  • ive only seen one, at the alliance air show in ft.worth a few years ago

  • looks like a warbird airrace cuz the tese tuned engines often wont start at the first time

  • Nice Jugs!

  • Ha ha! Double entendre'.

  • I love it

  • EM' 'R' sho purdy. Don't see dem' jugz round as much. itsa shame.

  • Beautiful machines. They appear to be in amazing condition. There's a real charm to old warbirds like this.

  • At Last,a great video,without no stupid music,just the real Music.THX

  • right, music kill the video !

  • that's real music

  • beautiful

  • where abouts in mich....got folks in mich.

  • I loe see the real WAR BIRDS!!!

    thx

  • great sound! and good shooting! totally like the sabre and mig flybys too, very cool. Now Im bummed I missed this year's show! I will be there next year, no ifs or buts...

  • What a party for engine and plane lovers. Thank you very much !!

  • wow. you can't really comprehend the size of these beasts until you see people standing next to them.

  • Nice planes but gas guzzlers they were

  • Too bad if they had to scramble those bad boys in WW2, good thing they never really had too. The war wouldve been over..lolz. Nice to see them still active!

  • Nice T'bolts and P-40, i just wish there were more Mustang III's and not bubbletops!

  • How long are the engines running before the pilot mixes in Automatic rich? Are the engines running on prime for long? Anybody care to comment on how to start up the R-2800?

  • The operating manual says (after 2 to 4 strokes of priming):

    ... (step)n: When engine starts move mixture control to "AUTO-RICH" and throttle to 900rpm.

    CAUTION

    Failure to keep mixture control in "IDLE CUT-OFF" postion unless engine is running, will result in flooding and fire hazard.

    The P-47N manual says to engage the starter and prime simultaneously until engine fires, then go to Auto-Rich, so it's a bit different.

    In either case, to answer your question, I'd say as soon as the engine fires.

  • sound great!

  • Glad to see the Mustangs don't have all the glory.

  • Yup!

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