watch?v=j30oc2DCdd8 & watch?v=RY-j5O-Ynng Greek stolen children
watch?v=SI9c5xqJLFI - History of Macedonia
watch?v=-9vn5J9Ij10 - ur propagandists
The world, is not brainwashed by your state sanctioned propaganda. It has demanded you Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic change your name & stop violating the Declaration of Human rights against the millennial old ethnic and cultural identity of Greece. HURRY UP...
And just to reiterate. A new country cannot be called exclusively nor claim exclusive rights to an identity that already belongs to the ethnos and history of another and especially when it already has 2.5 million population who identify and can link ethnically and culturally by that identity. And it most certainly cannot take it exclusively and transform it to fit a different cultural, geographic and ethnic group in order to claim that which already exists...
@Gwrgo With danger to sound like politics (sorry about my english ) i will say, that every nation has the right to call them self as they like and as they feel.As Republic of Macedonia has the right to call itself like that, based on historical chronology?well according to Historical proves they have the same rights as you on that name, all beyond that is just politics and i am afraid i am not a big expert there :)
@aerofilll so..what is the lesson here !? History got nothing with politics! And what is political lesson based on that ? Your both countries milion years ago until now are on very sensitive geopolitical locations so the bigger kingdoms or now countries will always have interest here and try to destroy or destabilize your both countries But you will have more chances together :) this is the lesson from beggining of the world till now! think about it !
@aerofilll - The lesson here is that this "we are one world politically correct" socialistic crap always seems to ask the one with the most to lose to do the understanding. We offered part of our historical & cultural name to keep the peace with our Bulgarian neighbors. We extended our hand in friendship, invested in their businesses, helped them with foreign aid so they may find stability.
@aerofilll - In return they sully our name publicly, make claims on the land we live on, distort our history and the future identity of our unborn children so they can give it to theirs. I am sorry that you find an identity irrelevant. Stopping the destabilizing process of foreign interests wont happen by denying the rightful heirs their truth it will be by denying the liars and their tools their reward for lying....
@aerofilll - Making statements like Ancient Macedonians and other Greeks do not care about modern ones is ludicrous. Ancient Macedonians and other Greeks cared about their children who cared about their children who cared about theirs....and so the continued recorded history of Macedonians and other Greeks ended up here, with us Macedonians and other Greeks who will continue to care about our children who in turn will care about theirs...
@Gwrgo OK, personaly i don`t really care about who claims what and what claims who, i got a looot of friends in the whole Balkan, including Macedonians and Greeks, most of them Archeologists and 99% of them don`t really care to be honest, as i know Macedonians don`t give a fu*ck long time ago about aegean macedonia, and if they do eventually what then !? they will conquer Greece !? :) with what, with ajver and rakija !? :) Until UK controls the harbors in Greece you are safe :)
@aerofilll - Aegean macedonia? lol. You arent russian you are a Bulgarian from Skopje pretending to be Russian. It all makes sense now. How ridiculous are you people for God's sake.... You are pathetic. truly pathetic. and FYI. Thats what they said about Kosovo. Now please go fcuk yourself I am sick and tired of you charlatans...
@Gwrgo You are missing something in you head my friend, i was living for 2 years in Macedonia and all over the Balkan, but I know what is "Aegean" even without it ..Mr.genius :)...Bulgaria is Bulgaria, Macedonia is Macedonia,Greece is Greece, but you are neither of that, you are from ethnicity called "little bit stupid and sick nationalist" , we and Russia have a name for it "глупый идеологической фашистской" find someone to translate it to you
@aerofilll - blah blah blah blah. Like your brainwashed opinion means anything to anyone either with this id or the Russian one. Now hurry up and change your name like you have been ordered by the world and stop violating the declaration of human rights against the Macedonian ethnic and cultural identity.
@Gwrgo I can`t believe my eyes here ahahahahaa, oh man.. how not to love you ..you are one and only :* kiss...i see Russians are Skopians here :))) ..i leave you for couple of days and you already are in war with Russia..uh uh uh...you are UNSTOPPABLE ! Elliot Ness from Greece ! You make my day ! :* :* :*
@iviciaable - blah blah blah. now that you got caught out they're skopjeans? You' claim to be an archaeologist right? Give us a Skopjean link to the Macedonians from a primary source and then justify calling it "Aegean" Macedonia which by the way only Skopjeans do because there has never been such a thing...
@Gwrgo and you don`t know SHIT about your own history and civilization so stop playing an asshole and making anti-propaganda about your own country, cause there is people in Greecewho are "studying" things that you are "claiming" , i know some of them and they are not nationalist like you..so god save orthodox christianity from peopple like you
@Gwrgo As i said previously, Historicaly this is all nonsense, regions where changing, people where moving,Kingdoms where getting invaded and then mixed with other Kingodms or whatsoever, so trust me, you got connections with ancient civilizations as we in Russia have with Ancient "Russians", and the same goes with Macedonians of course.So you fight each other as much as you wish but leave the History behind..please :) Peace
@aerofilll - Nonesense. It was a Greek Kingdom clearly and definitively that belongs to the Greek ethnos and identity. That this is a ridiculous issue to cause such discord between two modern Countries is true but in simple terms, WE ARE NOT THE AGGRESSORS HERE. I find it offensive that you suggest that I must concede a Greek identity for the sake of Peace. Should we also give up the Athenian one to Albania because Albanians once lived there due to Ottoman conquest?
@aerofilll - I see Macedonians & other Greeks every day clasping hands in friendship. My family has friends also from Crete & Epirus, Athens & Thessaly, Peloponnese & much much more. It was this unity that Alexandros & Filippos fought for. The unity of GREEKS We Macedonians & other Greeks have no problem giving our hand in friendship to the Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic. After they stop this irredentist policy on a Greek ethnic & cultural identity like theyve been told
@Gwrgo if you give me email contact i can post you fotos of some of my colleagues from some Archeology conference after-party in Moscow where Macedonian and Greek drink together votka and sing together with hands on each other ..i am not kidding ! just wish and i will post it to you !
@aerofilll - I see Macedonians & other Greeks every day clasping hands in friendship. My family has friends also from Crete & Epirus, Athens & Thessaly, Peloponnese & much much more. It was this unity that Alexandros & Filippos fought for. The unity of GREEKS We Macedonians & other Greeks have no problem giving our hand in friendship to the Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic. After they stop this irredentist policy on a Greek ethnic & cultural identity like theyve been told
@aerofilll - I see Macedonians & other Greeks every day clasping hands in friendship. My family has friends also from Crete & Epirus, Athens & Thessaly, Peloponnese & much much more. It was this unity that Alexandros & Filippos fought for. The unity of GREEKS We Macedonians & other Greeks have no problem giving our hand in friendship to the Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic. After they stop this irredentist policy on a Greek ethnic & cultural identity like theyve been told
@Gwrgo The sad truth about your both countries is that you got more in common then against each other, based on Historical chronology, there was annexations of Old Greece by Alexander, then annexations to his kingdom by latter Greeks, so there is no end there if we start to count that, History of your countries is so related to each other so there is little bit a paradoxical situation here, mmm how to explain better what i mean..i will continue next, no space
@Gwrgo I it will sound little philosophical :) Ancient Macedonians and Greeks do not care about modern ones..they are all dead ! :) so you are not care about future ones, because they are not born yet right !?everything is NOW !and now there is two countries recognized by whole world ! In 1000 years from now this things will be History.and in that future time actual politic of that time will consider this times now maybe different than we are considering !?but we all be dead until that for 1000y
@aerofilll - Here you are wrong. Ancient Macedonians like all Greeks cared about Modern ones. That is why they built legacies, recorded their history, built foundations for their country to grow. We Macedonians of today like all Greeks care about the future of our unborn Macedonians and other Greeks. We protect what our forefathers died protecting for us so that we can pass it onto them.
If you are Macedonian then i am Greek :))) ..sorry..i can`t stop myself. :)) but..at the end you must decide finally who is who, 5 minutes ago i was Greek, Now I am Bulgarian, in 5 minutes i will be Chinese i guess !? .but i must said some good word for you.. you are very practiced and ready for this kind of stuff ,i see you reed all kind of books..
@iviciaable MAKEDONIA WAS IS AND ALLWAYS BE HELLAS U FOOL...FYROMS TERRITORY LAY ON DARDANIA AND PAIONIA 90%..HOW IN HELL CAN FUYROM BECOME MAKEDONIA? FROM A YOUNGOSLAV PROVINCE TO A FULL BLOWN REPUBLIC?..HOW? BY PROXY?
@kostasdania may I answer that question for you !? Hello, i am from Russia, i work like Archeologist for almost 20 years in Romania,Serbia, Republic of Macedonia, so trust me i know much more than all people here :) Peonia was region in Kingdom of Macedonia and even before that, which was placed from now south Kosovo to middle of now Republic of Macedonia ..Veles region.There was so much mixtured tribes then so you can`t describe even from the artifacts...continuing
@kostasdania actually there is artifacts that big part of Alexander army when he conquered Persia for example where from Paeonia region, also Paeonians (mixture of tribes) where known as most warlike tribes at that time in whole Balkan peninsula, equal and similar to Cossacks, so i wanted to say that Peonia was only region of the Kingdom so its impossible to say it is belonging to any country now, 3000 years after, the same goes for Macedonia Kingdom...continuing
@kostasdania Modern politics in this days has nothing to do with History, because History is not constant and is changing all the time, what is now Greece in 1000 years could be France or what is now Republic of Macedonia could be Holland in 1500 years.I hope anybody here won`t get piss on me, I am neutral here but history is my job..so PEACE to ALL here
@aerofilll - I believe we must put things into context. Macedonians were a Greek tribe from the Greek ethnos. The name Macedonia is synonymous with the Greek ethnos. This, being an archaeologist, you will know from the plethora of evidence we have. Now that the Macedonians conquered other territories is merely conquest. That they had foreign soldiers in their ranks is merely strategy...cont'
@aerofilll - The Former Yugoslav Republic violates the rights of Greece by exclusively dominating a name and an identity that is Greek by firstly claiming the ethnicity of Macedonia as exclusively theirs, it violates Greece by claiming "lost" lands based on this false ethnic identification based on no solid primary link. In context it is synonymous with Egypt , Iran, Afghanistan claiming they are the true Macedonians and their country should be called the Republic of Macedonia. cont'
@aerofilll - As an archaeologist your view is appreciated in so far as you can identify the Macedonian artifacts and inscriptions. It has no place in the political interpretations of them. This madness has to stop. We are talking about a distinct part of the Greek history within a distinct part of a geographical area that was Macedonia proper...Let's not confuse the issue more than it has already been confused by those without any link to it... Peace to you as well....
@aerofilll - Pontus is now in the hands of the Turks. Does it make the history of Pontus Turkish? Can the Turks say that they are Pontiuns of History? No they cannot. Mexico briefly belonged to Mexico. Can they say they are the true Texans? Can they claim Texas as part of a Greater Texas state that should be included into Mexico? No they cannot. Truth must always be kept in context or truth becomes useless..The intent of Skoje who has no link I'm sure...
“It has been said very clearly and many times that the country (Former Yugoslav Republic) will get an invitation for membership AFTER the name dispute is settled" - Philip Reeker, the US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State during a recent meeting with journalists in Washington.
They are waiting for you to either prove your claims or CHANGE your name. Since it's impossible do the 1st then hurry up with the 2nd the world has more important things than your irredentist agenda to think about
And Macedonia is in Greece. 4000+ years of recorded unbroken history. 4000+ years of continuous primary links. 4000+ years of references from foreign and native sources attesting to its Greekness. "yunan takbara" was the name given to Macedonians in the 6th century BC. GREEKS WITH HATS"...Every name every inscription every reference every recorded piece of culture religion tradition...ALL GREEK. Don't take my word for it...c 4 urself
@Gwrgo there is one problem with your theory, that problem is my grandfather ! :) ..if he was one of this kids, and they are Greek Kids,then my grandfather is a Greek...and according to that..i am Greek...DAMN...well .my Greek bro..we together are Greeks as you pointed.so why we are fighting then here..long live Greece !!! ..my country is Greece !!!...so..now really stop because you checkmated yourself..it happens..so..if i didnt reply you anymore, don`t get mad at me..my countryman :*
@iviciaable - It's typical. U didnt even see the Greek children video or any other video I gave u to see what was going on. U prefer the delusions of ur propaganda sites and the memories of the brainwashed Janissary's. Maybe you are Greek. Either from the communist parents or those stolen from their families. In which case your denial is greater and my sadness for u more... U wont answer because you cant answer and still save face. That is why ur now posting rhetorical garbage!
@iviciaable - "As long as the blood runs in my veins, my Bulgarian soul will always be for the freedom of Macedonia and her Bulgarian people. For I hope it will not be held against me that I, as a Macedonian, place the interests of my country before all. I am a Macedonian, I have a Macedonian consciousness and so I have my own view of the past, present and future." - Krste Misirkov
If you cant listen to factual evidence then listen to your own heroes...
@Gwrgo i just hope you are not working for some kind of anti macedonian ..pardon anti-"slav" Ku Klux Klan or secret service or something !? i am afraid because i still got cousins in Kukush..pardon Greece..pardon Makedonia pardon Kukes. One thing i forgot..if Krste Misirkov is Bulgarian and he speaks " i am Macedonian.." and Macedonians according to you are Greeks..then Misirkov is Greek or Bulgarian then !? DAMN..i don`t know who i am anymore..you confuse me completely ..i give up..YOU WIN !
@iviciaable - Ridicule only shows ur a blabbering fool. The slavic population of the F.Yugoslav.RoM are Bulgarians. Hiding among them are the communist Greeks who fled Greece after the Greek civil war to avoid atoning for their crimes, the brainwashed Greek stolen children & their descendants. This has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Which of these u r I really I don't care. I care only that u've been exposed and you have been, time & time again by all credible proof...
@iviciaable - Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians" - Krste Misirkov
"The political & military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." - US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, Dec1995
@Gwrgo Damn..this is not gonna work this way ! We must have to back to that HLA DNA analysis to finally see who is who..because, according to your latest theory, your Country have naming dispute with Bulgaria actually,and your country must visit Bulgarian Embassy for further dialog and compromises ! I doubt that Bulgarians will be excited about this newest turnaround of politics between both countries, so i will said again that DNA test will solve the mystery without war between BG and GR
@iviciaable - Since u wont learn I will r-epost the videos you refuse to see which includes the debunking of the Villena garbage.
watch?v=hd1JLxWni7E - genetics
watch?v=j30oc2DCdd8 & watch?v=RY-j5O-Ynng Greek stole children
watch?v=SI9c5xqJLFI - History of Macedonia
watch?v=-9vn5J9Ij10 - ur propagandists
The world, not brainwashed by ur state has demanded u change ur name& stop violating the Dec. of Human rights against the millenia old ethnic and cultural identity of Greece.
@Gwrgo wow..interesting videos..quite official and relevant i must say :)..but, because there is cities in Alabama, New Jersey,Indiana,Ilinois,Tennessee, Iowa, Ohio and even in Romania and Brazil with the name "Macedonia" (Wikipiedia)..i think we got bigger problem here i am afraid, my suggestion is Greece to enter in another naming dispute with USA Romania and Brazil...
@iviciaable - and it is quite fine as a foreign nation to have a city in honor of the Greek state and it's history. Like Alabama, New Jersey, Indiana etc you are welcome to pay homage to our history as well...NONE OF THESE SAY THEY ARE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WHO NEED TO UNITE THE REST OF THE "STOLEN" MACEDONIA. Again you play the victim to your detriment...
@Gwrgo so if mentioned countries USA Romania and Brazil accept that they where violated or stole the name which according to you belongs to Greece, we..in Republic of Macedonia will apologize to you and we will proudly say that we are from F.Y.R.O.M. On the other hand that will be another big administrative problem because around 120 countries (with USA,ROM,BRA) accepted our constitutional name but..nevertheless promise is a promise..
@iviciaable - You are not the Republic of Macedonia for anything but political expediency. You know it we know it the world knows it. No one recognizes you as ethnic Macedonians as you claim and that is because they know that YOU ARE NOT. You are for all other purposes the former YUGOSLAV republic until you find a name to suit your slavic origins and/or paeonian geography that does not violate the ethnic or cultural rights of the real Macedonians of GREECE.
@Gwrgo until then i am planning to delete all my posts here, so you Greeks ..pardon ancient Macedonians can talk to each other here..because i am putting in silence until your dispute with USA,ROM and BRA get solved because i believe that will be correct political act form myself in interest of not speaking evidence in case which is still active..sincerely yours..Alexander..ups
@iviciaable - more garbage. If you intend to delete your posts its because youve shown yourself to be a shyster and you have proven that this video and all of Greece's claims of your agenda are in fact TRUE and you don't want proof of your nonsense recorded.... you write nothing but garbage typical of a tool...
@iviciaable - TITLE: "GREEK CHILDREN" A documentary made by Radivoje Lola Djukic in 1948, with the support of Avala Film in Belgrade. It is narrated in Serbian/Croatian, and does not have subtitles. - Again you have been found talking out of your ass...
@iviciaable - Are you threatening us with a conspiracy with the CIA? Are you that big a fool that you cant see that they support Albania over your YUGOSLAV Republic. Wouldn't you be in NATO by now if they were taking "care" of you? Oh they have plans for you alright but it isnt what you were hoping for...
We are getting fed up with your irredentist bullshit and propaganidstic lies. Brussels has ordered you to change your name to fit your slavic identity and/or Paeonian geography. Cut the crap and HURRY UP
@Gwrgo lies and propaganda like "bombing a Macedonian refugees convoy in 1948 with napalm bombs" ?! that kind of lies !? ..changing the names of all Aegean Macedonian cities and villages and then the names of the people who was not greek nationality into greeks !? you should get cover yourself with some bricks and never show up ! your case is like Hitler saying " I was not killing jews, they are making propaganda against Germany " that kind of lies !?
@iviciaable - your answers are laughable. What have you got to do with the Greek civil war firstly? secondly when Greeks took back the lands that belonged to her she returned the toponyms with their original etymologies in the language they were derived. In macedonia throughout history..EVERY TOPONYM EVERY HYDRONOMY EVERY ONOMASTIC IS GREEK in etymology. How do you factor this basic truth into your assumptions? or is playing the victim too important to waste time with FACTS?
@Gwrgo First of all, shut up !!..dont make me laugh please, tell me one thing only..i will not elaborate the all 300000 crimes and lies which you done..so..mister wise guy...you said greece has taken back names right ? for example..tell me,, before it was called Kukush ( Кукуш) you said that it was called Kukes..right !? thats your story !? ..maestro..my origins are from Egejska Macedonia..i have 10 generations roots in Kukush..so it was called Kukush 500 years ago, so shut a fuck up...
@iviciaable - lol talk about spitting the dummy. I could almost feel the spit dribbling down your chin.
So you were called kukush 500 years ago? You fool, Thats the SOUTH SLAVIC name the BULGARIANS gave it. What was it called before that I wonder? Oh look...a GREEK name Krystonia attested in Aristotelis work "'Περί θαυμάσιων ακουσμάτων' where he writes about (in GREEK of course) the temple of Dionysou of Krystwnia. Lots of nia's no Couscous....Brainwashed ignorant idiot
@Gwrgo stolen greek children !!! wow :))) this is the maximum, you can go better than this one !! maestro..you scared me, honestly you did, but never mind, you got fighting spirit, that`s good, but you know what, you are beating yourself :)) and this is the same thing about Greek politic toward us. Look my friend, CIA headquarters for the whole Balkan are in Macedonia, a veeery scary big building, dont get me wrong, i am not CIA fan, but that is my answer about that 3-rd world status of ours...
@iviciaable - you stutter huh? well let me repeat it for your benefit...
VIDEO TITLE: "GREEK CHILDREN" A documentary made by Radivoje Lola Djukic in 1948, with the support of Avala Film in Belgrade. Go check it out...."the truth will set you free"...
@iviciaable - Egeksa is just the SLAVIC name for Aegean ALSO a GREEK name...a region named Aegean Macedonia exists only in your brainwashed Bulgarian head...
@iviciaable - The treaty of Nuilly sent u bulgarians back to Bulgaria. Those that stayed IDENTIFIED as GREEKS. Those GREEKS who became communists & didnt like the outcome of the CIVIL war and fled to Vardarska Banovina (modern day Skopje) to avoid atonement for their crimes are upset now at the Greeks? you are pathetic, brainwashed tools of their agenda. You spit on your real ancestors so that they can get even with their own who didnt want to become part of the communist block.
@Gwrgo Second : I have 7 relatives which where killed ( 3 children -brother of my grandfather with them) during bombing of UK planes on refugee columns, there where no comunist there..women and children Fuc*er...so eat shi* and die...watch this and die again /watch?v=IVCZTmXR1h0 ..your state is old 60 years..mine is 3000 years,you are from north Africa..go and VETO me, thats all you can do Greek Heroes..MACEDONIA is the NAME ,VETO VETO VETO ME your country is falling apart by the way,bye
@iviciaable - Of course they were dear. What else do you think they will tell you considering their agenda. Just unsubstantiated shyte from your propaganda mills. Why give me a doctored video of the original one I gave you? Weve already seen the title give it by the maker....STOLEN GREEK CHILDREN. Go check for yourself its in the credits...As for the eating shit part...keep your cuisine, I prefer the Macedonian cuisine of my Greek forefathers...
@Gwrgo so whats my point, If somebody from upstairs wants Greece collapse, it will be !
Easy made easy gone, problem is that you will not handle that, we are used to this things in last 2000 years, so trust me, we are stronger in that manner.Thats my answer to your Ilirida sindrome also, if uncle Bob wants, you will catch that flu veeery easy ! So everything is so eaaaasy in this world you would n` believe how easy is...so again, you are playing cards that does not exist, wrong cards..wrong !
@iviciaable - So you hold onto your britches and wait for "upstairs" to come fulfill your irredentist agenda that has no historical value whatsoever. in the meantime however, you applied for your first aid from the IMF. That damn "warrior on a horse" your tax payers were taken for, so Gruevski (whose grandfather was Greek by the way) could Hellenize the area sure put one over on you...
@Gwrgo I understand that when you stole someone`s part of the country, you will be paranoid after, that`s normal, but you are crossing the known limits of the universe in your paranoia :)) I mean Ok, we are weak, have no army, no planes..but even without that you are still loosing !? why !? Because your country trapped itself in its own shiiit !
I can`t imagine what would be if we where Turkey for example instead ?uh .bad scenario i must admit Horror SF-movie, you would be nuked i guess..huh
@iviciaable - there u go with the bullshit. We liberated it from the Turks. Are u a Turk? You must be a Turk because considering ur open friendship. Then ?more victimization crap. In the meantime Turkey is your best friend. But oh no, Turkey is having internal problems and conflicts with Israel and the USA. And Greece has signed alliances with Israel is NATO Partner with the U.S. and an EU member the EU is doing everything to protect . Still putting all your hopes on the CIA?
@Gwrgo I mean look, there is even good things in Greece, i am admiring November 17 and those stuffs, we need same thing here, actually i got even friends in Greece but there is one big unknown for me ! how the fascism got roots in Greece !? i guess there is some connection with WW2 because the fraction that was opposing communist was pro-fascist But that was 60 years ago and thing are not changed since then.Your country is miracle of science my friend :)
@Gwrgo So..With all respect to intelligent/wise and normal Greeks ( not you...Hitler was intelligent but was imbecile actually) I wish them good fortune and future, until the moment we buy nukes :)) I am kidding :))..give the poor a piece of breed, and he will return to you with wine and cheese one day..Kick that poor man, and you are kicking yourself !! so with this words of wisdom..i say bye bye to you..please stop posting, there us no end here and i got a work to do in the meantime you know
@iviciaable - My job is done. U've just proven everything in this video. No facts, full on irredentist crap & more victimization. Do urself a service. Stop spitting on ur real ancestors. They deserve better. Learn who u really r & then go & create something for ur country worthy of giving it a place in history on its own merit. Because if u continue on this path of stealing the history of every one of your neighbors who are all NATO and EU members, ur days r done...
@iviciaable - And we didn't need to veto u dear. The Bulgarians & Albanians declined your application on the grounds that u STOLE their history too & that you make irredentist propaganda against them... Sound familiar?
@iviciaable - re: my country falling apart. Don't worry we have survived worse than this & wont get to ur third world status even if we go bankrupt. We will still be your best foreign investor & your biggest supplier of foreign aid even after u become the Republic of Ilirida when the Albanians become a majority while your waiting for someone to believe that you're Macedonians without any link whatsoever to it... Just keep posting more garbage & it will happen quicker than u think
@Gwrgo If you are real ortodox christian which I doubt, you should be ashamed and asking forgiveness from the God, only then we will be equal and we can talk from equal level of morality ! sweat dreams and nice sleep !
@iviciaable - I will never be ashamed for speaking the truth, or defending it against brainwahed fools who pander to an irredentist agenda. I will never be ashamed of defending my identity which is also defended by the declaration of human rights. So go ahead and call on God to hide behind. You use him on kanal 10 to reinforce that you are makednski's progenitor of the entire white race why not to play the victim in your attempted theft of something that has nothing to do with you
Until you show us "actual" proves that you have a direct connection with ancient macedonians, you will get nothing from Greece. And from the evidences we have, the only conclusion is there was never a seperate macedonian nation, at least not before the 20th century
Who denies you to speak your language. You can speak your language as much as you want so you can prove that you have no relations to ancient macedonia as you speak a slavic language almost the same with Bulgarian. Why can you accept that your history as a nation is less than 100 years old. The only "proves" that you have is that you mention the name Macedonia in different times of history. So what? That doesnt prove anything. The name macedonia is ancient, we know that.
You want to be good with me, remove macedonian propaganda and all your lies you make about slavs doing this and that, and then we're cool. otherwise you will face your most frightening nightmares you ever have. I talk the talk and i also walk the walk.
It's not true, the serbs in macedonia are been treated bad from greeks. I have seen it with my own eyes, i have also few recrods that greeks killed many macedonains. You are forgetting that macedonians are old serbs? I dont understand why you act nice with kosovo and bullshit us with the next page? Macedonians are old serbs, and they speak the old serbian language. Why dont you just leave them in peace but kill them? If Arkan was alive, he would know what we must do to free kosovo from siptari
@SuperSerbianWarrior Really? What about the greek tourists in fyrom whose bus was attacked by fyromians causing two little kids being hurted and one 3 year old killed? Fyromians history is devided between Bulgaria and Serbia I don't know what you are talking about because Greece does not recognise Kosovo independendcy Kill them? We helped them? We gave money to them!! Macedonia = Greece FYROM and Macedonia are too different things Macedonians are greeks not slavs or albanians
@TheLolizzZ We Serbians never need anyones help besides our slavic brothers. You try to be nice and then you spit rude words towards slavs. We are real warriors and you know it. The only bind we have is our religion, nothing else. One day we will maybe work to kill siptaris, but thats because they are on your way. For us, they are nothing. Once US leaves, we will take back whats ours, including our brothers in skopje and far below. My slavic pride I will not hide... CCCC
@TheLolizzZ Oh really? I don't remember this ever happening. You are such a stupid greko psycho. You have just made this shit up, and you make it as if it's a fact? JEBEM TI MAJKU !!! I always knew greeks make things up while they talk, but you, you are such an embarresment to yourself. Greek history is like you !!! Jebi se !! CCCC
@TheLolizzZ hahahhaa, Alex hahahha, he was Greek? Don't make me laugh !! He was Macedonian! And sure whatever you say about your history MUST or HAS to be TRUE!! You exist only from those filthy siptaris and the west. They saved your ass this time and now you become rude here spitting bullshit out! I speak whatever language i like OK??? Good BYE KURVA!
@TheLolizzZ - superskop is not a serbian. No serb speaks like that to a Greek who is spreading the word of the theft of Kosovo. But as usual they make fake accounts to create trouble between nations for their own gain. If you look for his account it is closed as they usually do once theyve created their illusion...
@TheLolizzZ - Dont forget that the Skopjians were one of the first to recognized Kosovo as "Kosova the autonomous albanian state" while Greece refused both recognition and to participate in the nato attacks....Serbian people are not stupid and there is no love for the Bulgarians of Skopje who are attempting to steal Greek history...
@Gwrgo dude..that fascism of yours will destroy you in very close future, we " MACEDONIANS" are used to be surrounded by wolves from all 4 sides in the past 500 years, Hellenization, Bulgarization, Serbization of Macedonia is our not very happy past, but dont worry, we are here again, and as it seems you will lose your artificially made state very quickly,and not by as, we are peaceful nation,. but by the same western powers that made Modern Greece, but i am not happy, I am sad for you actually
@aerofil11 - please spare us the victim card it's sickening. U no more have a Macedonian identity than u can escape ur true Bulgarian one. A hodgepodge nation whose revisionists paid to create ur fake "macedonian" identity cant even make up their minds which version of history they agree upon. All one has to do is look upon the primary evidence of the ages to see an unbroken continuous Hellenic identity of Macedon & an ethnic Bulgarian identity for u. U have more evidence of being a poodle
@Gwrgo oh..thank for your scientific contribute in this discussion..but..have you ever heard of HLA European National Center for Biotechnology Information..so..this guys made a research in late 90`s i think it was, and took a blood DNA samples from this regions, do you want to know the results !? I am not gonna tell you results myself, it may be shocking for you and don`t want you get mad at me after, cause in nothing personal, its just on scientific base, cause science is science..yes !?
@Gwrgo Hmm..HLA farse ? interesting argument from your side, i will have to analyze it :)))) also currently i am searching for HLA official email for you to contact them, and you will must tell them that they are idiots like me and that they are wasting milions of euros for nothing...shi***t ! you convince me..i am starting to believe that i am not Macedonian...DAMN !!
@aerofil11 - I asked them to provide their study for peer review but...there is none. I asked them what they termed "Macedonian"..& they said..they named makedonski the gene they found in the former YUGOSLAV repbulic of makedonski & that it's similar to Bulgarians. When I asked them why they included the study of mice (mus macedonicus) in their bibliography for macedonians....they didnt reply. U would believe anything ur propagandists tell u. Intelligent people would find a primary link
@Gwrgo no no no...i said in previous post..you already convinced me, forget that Macedonian stuff, we do not exist ..Alexander Macedonian was Alexander Bulgarian actually, your roots are not in sub-Sahara tribes..so i am sorry for everything i said, i was wrong..and i am officially saying..."that from now..we Macedonians are ...BRAZILIANS" !!!!!!!!!!!!
@iviciaable - Alexandros, Filippos, Aristotelis all ethnic GREEKS. But here is an interesting video you should watch. Not that facts mean anything to your pie in the sky rhetorical garbage...
@Gwrgo Yes i agree, Alexander II the King of pre-ww2 Yugoslavia was not Serb, he was Greek (Alexandros II), Alexander Aliehin the best chess player of all times was not Russian he was Greek also...(Alexandros Aljehin), my cousin Alexander Talevski is Alexandros Talos and i will tell him tomorrow to change his name ! and 1 Billion other examples...but what to do with some other suspicios half million or more people which now live in Aegean region and their names are similarly changed !?
@iviciaable - Must suck to have no primary link to Macedonia. I bet it just eats u up that u cant link Zlatko or Vesna to Alexandros and Aristotelis, Paeonia to Macedon proper, Bulgarian that you speak to the Greek inscription on EVERY Macedonian stone. It burns you up so badly that u need the theatrics of a baboon to avoid having to address it. EVERY name EVERY inscription EVERY reference EVERY toponym EVERY hydronym EVERY piece of art EVERY symbol, HELLENIC while all of urs r Bulgarian
@Gwrgo ..i will answer for you if you don`t mind, I suggest you to use napalm bombs like in end of 40`s in last century for all "suspicious " minority there, and they will escape also, especially women and children are easy targets for bombing and especially when are escaping in large groups or "convoy" of refuges...1 napalm bomb = 100 dead ! ..so we find the solution !!! ..long live Greece !!
@iviciaable - You want us to use napalm bombs on our Muslim minority? Are you sick or something? "large convoy of refugees? You must be talking about the 28,000 Greek children that you Communists stole from their families in the GREEK civil war and brainwashed them into the communist doctrine. Their parents gave their name to the red cross, numerous calls from the entire world were made for their safe return and many from other SLAVIC communist countries were returned. Only Skopje refused
@iviciaable - But I see the communist indoctrination was quite effective for the communists who fled to avoid facing court for their crimes against the GREEK state. Stalin knew what he was doing when he stated, "give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevist for ever"....
watch?v=j30oc2DCdd8 live footage of the Greek kids and their brainwashing to fight for the communists. It was taken by a Croatian who saw it first hand.
watch?v=5IsCO9QSZz0 this is a more detailed account
@iviciaable - We Greeks and especially we Macedonian ones, feel great pity for you. You have been robbed of your true Bulgarian or Greek identity for a communist agenda. ur whole existence is a lie. u are a tool in a warfare so sick it creates jannisaries from children who fall prey to them. u parakeet information from ur propaganda sites without question without rhyme or reason and take as gospel the word of shysters and charlatans over respected academics. It is truly sad to watch.
And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS!
Και να τονιστεί από όλους μας πως το Greece βγαίνει από το Γραία=γριά και ήταν θρησκευτικό επίθετο και όχι εθνικό όνομα! Έλλάς/Έλληνες ήταν είναι και θα είναι η εθνική ονομασία.Ως πόλεις κράτη αυτοδιοίκητα είχαν τους δικούς τους κανόνες μα εθνικά αυτοονομάζονταν ως Έλληνες.Το Greeks υιοθετήθηκε από τους Λατίνους ως παράφραση/αντιδάνειο από το Ελληνικό Γραικοί.Γραία ονομάζονταν η θεά Αθηνά και η Δήμητρα!!Συνεπώς τα περί διαφοράς στα ονόματα Ελλάς Μακεδονία πάνε περίπατο!!
And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS
@sikfreak6969 Your history begins in Arabia, Morocco and Egypt Mr.Big Brain, you got connection with ancient Greeks as Chinese got with Ethiopia, actually we " Slavs" got more connection with ancient Greeks than modern Greeks have.. so yes, Macedonia is Greece ::) Modern Greece is made by the same powers (USA,UK) which are criticized in "Mr.Another Big Brain author of the video" here, and will be destroyed by the same powers, easy come easy go.It is happening already actually :*
@aerofil11 Correct me If I'm wrong, but the human race in it's entirety, hails from Africa. We are all descendants from the first homosapiens to walk thie earth...from AFRICA. Your country is founded on political ideology of fascists and communists. We GREEKS as a country, fought against NAZI GERMANY in WWII. How dare your pathetic propoganda journalists disgrace our flag with the NAZI symbol. The world knows the truth. You will get NOTHING from GREECE!! VETO VETO VETO! boohoo...go have a cry..
@sikfreak6969 VETO!,thank you for that veto:*, European Union will exist in about next 4 years, half of European Union is bancroft , there was a saying in these regions " you are in debts like Greece" ..like i child i didn`t understand that saying..i thought it was a joke.So.don`t get me wrong but.you can stay in that E.U as much as you wish ! That thing about your flag was humorous symbolism about your politics in past 20 years, you are not so dangerous like fascist's don`t flatter yourself :)
@sikfreak6969 and i will not comment that about homosapiens heritage, please don`t say that in public, they will think you are in 3-rd grade, of course we are all from Africa ( maybe ) i didnt say that to offend you, every nation should be proud about their roots no matter is from China...Morocco or Southern African tribes, like you..so be black and be proud !! ..don`t get me to serious, i am kidding with you..you are ancient Greek..cheers maestro, you got 1 Uzo from me ! kiss
@iviciaable It's NATO we veto you from...not EU. lol You're better off not joining the EU. Greece will however, live on forever...your "country" has a lot of growing up to do. Your history as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, starts from 1993.
@sikfreak6969 oh Nato..sorry, my mistake, Nato,EU same sh**t, anyway, leave the jokes behind, there is new balance of great powers going on if you didn`t notice, Russia is already building base in Nis Serbia and there is negotiations for another one in Macedonia, most probably in weapon training polygon Krivolak, so..bye bye Nato.Even Nato as souch will exist in maybe 10 years at most. You are right about Former Y.R.M date...but thats "Former" which means "Ex" now is Republic of Macedonia.:
@sikfreak6969 and about history of " MACEDONIA" i will not start that again..if some Chinese even is feeling Macedonian, than he is Macedonian, but if you say that we Macedonians are not " MACEDONIANS" thats quite a paradox don`t you think !? but..you think what you wanna think,say what you wanna say, its a free world ( maybe) ...and i got a work to do..so cheers my Neighbor
@sikfreak6969 some of my colleagues at work point me for another mistake of mine, so i am sorry again, my mistake, that F.Y.R.O.M thing was invented only for relations with Greece..so your country don`t get mad at us, actually our constitutional name was always "Republic of Macedonia"..so i don`t know real number of how many countries recognize us with that name, but i dont wanna mistake again, you check on google and tell me this time .uh..mistakes mistakes mistakes
@TheMomemtum The only Subhumans (Untermenschen) I know are Slavs and Greeks. Albanians are europeans, unlike slavs and greeks. Both of you are not welcomed in europe ! When wehrmacht comes once in power, we will wipe you all off the fucking map, dirty filthy untermenschen SLAVS and fucking gay greece!! Go back to asia with your currency and shit life! You are not welcomed in europe!!!!
your faces are square like caucasoid slavo mongols
Also you forget conviniently that a lot of serbs live in albania and a lot of your labanian whores ran away with them?
North Epirus is full with greeks serbs and italians,they are way more than albanians
Albanians on aborad never say they are albanians they say usually they are italians but the difference between them is that italians are hot and have hellenic dna ;)
@TheLolizzZ lol, you prove yourself to be more stupid then you talk. I am not Illyrian whatever that means, and whats with the racist contrast? You seem so much to be into politics that you forgot who you are. I tell you who you are. A racist old faggot, typical greko, who steals money and runs away like he didnt do a thing. Now stop calling names without knowing me. You are the perfect example of a greko whore. Whatever race you are, you're filthy as a personality and very evil orientated.
Albanians with their dirty Chechnian language? Albanians with their Turko-Arabic culture? With their shitty DNA from the Caucasus? How about that you sandnigger, go to any white nationalist forum, like stromfront, and propose your "theories" there. Haha! You need to go back from SHQIPTERIA to ICHQERIA you ugly piece of shit.
Someone ban this sandnigger please, I doubt that he will contribute in any way to this discussion. I have never seen an educated Albanian in my entire life.
και η υπομονη εχει ορια..η μεγαλυτερη τρομακρατες μιλουν γιατι ? για την τρομοκρατια?.ενταξει ..το θεατρο του παραλογου ..θελει και καλους ηθοποιους..καμμια εμπιστοσυνη σε κανεναν !! ολοι ο καθενας χωρια με ενα μαγνητοφωνακι να γραφουμε πια την δικη μας αληθεια !!να τους δωσουμε στα μουτρα αυτη την βρωμια που ποτιζουν τα δικα μας μυαλα !! ας βαλουμε ενα τελος !! και παλι μπραβο κοριτσι μου.. ετσι με δυναμη με αληθεια !! να του λες.. ''κυριοι εισαστε ψευτες...!! σε ευχαριστω ..
Kosovo is Serbia
Gayreece is Macedonia.
Greathing for brothers Macedonian from Belgrade:)
mstefanovski98 2 months ago
Macedonia is GREECE?? What the..
Unbeaten93 2 months ago
And if you like to talk archeology then this would be a great video for your education
watch?v=WkRgOhdfSak
Gwrgo 2 months ago
watch?v=hd1JLxWni7E – genetics
watch?v=j30oc2DCdd8 & watch?v=RY-j5O-Ynng Greek stolen children
watch?v=SI9c5xqJLFI - History of Macedonia
watch?v=-9vn5J9Ij10 - ur propagandists
The world, is not brainwashed by your state sanctioned propaganda. It has demanded you Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic change your name & stop violating the Declaration of Human rights against the millennial old ethnic and cultural identity of Greece. HURRY UP...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
And just to reiterate. A new country cannot be called exclusively nor claim exclusive rights to an identity that already belongs to the ethnos and history of another and especially when it already has 2.5 million population who identify and can link ethnically and culturally by that identity. And it most certainly cannot take it exclusively and transform it to fit a different cultural, geographic and ethnic group in order to claim that which already exists...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo With danger to sound like politics (sorry about my english ) i will say, that every nation has the right to call them self as they like and as they feel.As Republic of Macedonia has the right to call itself like that, based on historical chronology?well according to Historical proves they have the same rights as you on that name, all beyond that is just politics and i am afraid i am not a big expert there :)
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll so..what is the lesson here !? History got nothing with politics! And what is political lesson based on that ? Your both countries milion years ago until now are on very sensitive geopolitical locations so the bigger kingdoms or now countries will always have interest here and try to destroy or destabilize your both countries But you will have more chances together :) this is the lesson from beggining of the world till now! think about it !
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - The lesson here is that this "we are one world politically correct" socialistic crap always seems to ask the one with the most to lose to do the understanding. We offered part of our historical & cultural name to keep the peace with our Bulgarian neighbors. We extended our hand in friendship, invested in their businesses, helped them with foreign aid so they may find stability.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@aerofilll - In return they sully our name publicly, make claims on the land we live on, distort our history and the future identity of our unborn children so they can give it to theirs. I am sorry that you find an identity irrelevant. Stopping the destabilizing process of foreign interests wont happen by denying the rightful heirs their truth it will be by denying the liars and their tools their reward for lying....
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@aerofilll - Making statements like Ancient Macedonians and other Greeks do not care about modern ones is ludicrous. Ancient Macedonians and other Greeks cared about their children who cared about their children who cared about theirs....and so the continued recorded history of Macedonians and other Greeks ended up here, with us Macedonians and other Greeks who will continue to care about our children who in turn will care about theirs...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo OK, personaly i don`t really care about who claims what and what claims who, i got a looot of friends in the whole Balkan, including Macedonians and Greeks, most of them Archeologists and 99% of them don`t really care to be honest, as i know Macedonians don`t give a fu*ck long time ago about aegean macedonia, and if they do eventually what then !? they will conquer Greece !? :) with what, with ajver and rakija !? :) Until UK controls the harbors in Greece you are safe :)
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - Aegean macedonia? lol. You arent russian you are a Bulgarian from Skopje pretending to be Russian. It all makes sense now. How ridiculous are you people for God's sake.... You are pathetic. truly pathetic. and FYI. Thats what they said about Kosovo. Now please go fcuk yourself I am sick and tired of you charlatans...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo You are missing something in you head my friend, i was living for 2 years in Macedonia and all over the Balkan, but I know what is "Aegean" even without it ..Mr.genius :)...Bulgaria is Bulgaria, Macedonia is Macedonia,Greece is Greece, but you are neither of that, you are from ethnicity called "little bit stupid and sick nationalist" , we and Russia have a name for it "глупый идеологической фашистской" find someone to translate it to you
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - blah blah blah blah. Like your brainwashed opinion means anything to anyone either with this id or the Russian one. Now hurry up and change your name like you have been ordered by the world and stop violating the declaration of human rights against the Macedonian ethnic and cultural identity.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo please continue your conversation with somebody else and dont reply to me anymore, i need my "inbox" for smarter things, thank you
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - lol. Run Skopjean Run. Something called EVIDENCE from validated and credible sources is after you...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo I can`t believe my eyes here ahahahahaa, oh man.. how not to love you ..you are one and only :* kiss...i see Russians are Skopians here :))) ..i leave you for couple of days and you already are in war with Russia..uh uh uh...you are UNSTOPPABLE ! Elliot Ness from Greece ! You make my day ! :* :* :*
iviciaable 2 months ago
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@iviciaable - blah blah blah. now that you got caught out they're skopjeans? You' claim to be an archaeologist right? Give us a Skopjean link to the Macedonians from a primary source and then justify calling it "Aegean" Macedonia which by the way only Skopjeans do because there has never been such a thing...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo and you don`t know SHIT about your own history and civilization so stop playing an asshole and making anti-propaganda about your own country, cause there is people in Greecewho are "studying" things that you are "claiming" , i know some of them and they are not nationalist like you..so god save orthodox christianity from peopple like you
aerofilll 2 months ago
@Gwrgo As i said previously, Historicaly this is all nonsense, regions where changing, people where moving,Kingdoms where getting invaded and then mixed with other Kingodms or whatsoever, so trust me, you got connections with ancient civilizations as we in Russia have with Ancient "Russians", and the same goes with Macedonians of course.So you fight each other as much as you wish but leave the History behind..please :) Peace
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - Nonesense. It was a Greek Kingdom clearly and definitively that belongs to the Greek ethnos and identity. That this is a ridiculous issue to cause such discord between two modern Countries is true but in simple terms, WE ARE NOT THE AGGRESSORS HERE. I find it offensive that you suggest that I must concede a Greek identity for the sake of Peace. Should we also give up the Athenian one to Albania because Albanians once lived there due to Ottoman conquest?
Gwrgo 2 months ago
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@aerofilll - I see Macedonians & other Greeks every day clasping hands in friendship. My family has friends also from Crete & Epirus, Athens & Thessaly, Peloponnese & much much more. It was this unity that Alexandros & Filippos fought for. The unity of GREEKS We Macedonians & other Greeks have no problem giving our hand in friendship to the Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic. After they stop this irredentist policy on a Greek ethnic & cultural identity like theyve been told
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo if you give me email contact i can post you fotos of some of my colleagues from some Archeology conference after-party in Moscow where Macedonian and Greek drink together votka and sing together with hands on each other ..i am not kidding ! just wish and i will post it to you !
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - I see Macedonians & other Greeks every day clasping hands in friendship. My family has friends also from Crete & Epirus, Athens & Thessaly, Peloponnese & much much more. It was this unity that Alexandros & Filippos fought for. The unity of GREEKS We Macedonians & other Greeks have no problem giving our hand in friendship to the Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic. After they stop this irredentist policy on a Greek ethnic & cultural identity like theyve been told
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@aerofilll - I see Macedonians & other Greeks every day clasping hands in friendship. My family has friends also from Crete & Epirus, Athens & Thessaly, Peloponnese & much much more. It was this unity that Alexandros & Filippos fought for. The unity of GREEKS We Macedonians & other Greeks have no problem giving our hand in friendship to the Bulgarians of the former YUGOSLAV republic. After they stop this irredentist policy on a Greek ethnic & cultural identity like theyve been told
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo The sad truth about your both countries is that you got more in common then against each other, based on Historical chronology, there was annexations of Old Greece by Alexander, then annexations to his kingdom by latter Greeks, so there is no end there if we start to count that, History of your countries is so related to each other so there is little bit a paradoxical situation here, mmm how to explain better what i mean..i will continue next, no space
aerofilll 2 months ago
@Gwrgo I it will sound little philosophical :) Ancient Macedonians and Greeks do not care about modern ones..they are all dead ! :) so you are not care about future ones, because they are not born yet right !?everything is NOW !and now there is two countries recognized by whole world ! In 1000 years from now this things will be History.and in that future time actual politic of that time will consider this times now maybe different than we are considering !?but we all be dead until that for 1000y
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - Here you are wrong. Ancient Macedonians like all Greeks cared about Modern ones. That is why they built legacies, recorded their history, built foundations for their country to grow. We Macedonians of today like all Greeks care about the future of our unborn Macedonians and other Greeks. We protect what our forefathers died protecting for us so that we can pass it onto them.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
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correction: Texas briefly belonged to Mexico*
Gwrgo 2 months ago
If you are Macedonian then i am Greek :))) ..sorry..i can`t stop myself. :)) but..at the end you must decide finally who is who, 5 minutes ago i was Greek, Now I am Bulgarian, in 5 minutes i will be Chinese i guess !? .but i must said some good word for you.. you are very practiced and ready for this kind of stuff ,i see you reed all kind of books..
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable MAKEDONIA WAS IS AND ALLWAYS BE HELLAS U FOOL...FYROMS TERRITORY LAY ON DARDANIA AND PAIONIA 90%..HOW IN HELL CAN FUYROM BECOME MAKEDONIA? FROM A YOUNGOSLAV PROVINCE TO A FULL BLOWN REPUBLIC?..HOW? BY PROXY?
kostasdania 2 months ago
@kostasdania may I answer that question for you !? Hello, i am from Russia, i work like Archeologist for almost 20 years in Romania,Serbia, Republic of Macedonia, so trust me i know much more than all people here :) Peonia was region in Kingdom of Macedonia and even before that, which was placed from now south Kosovo to middle of now Republic of Macedonia ..Veles region.There was so much mixtured tribes then so you can`t describe even from the artifacts...continuing
aerofilll 2 months ago
@kostasdania actually there is artifacts that big part of Alexander army when he conquered Persia for example where from Paeonia region, also Paeonians (mixture of tribes) where known as most warlike tribes at that time in whole Balkan peninsula, equal and similar to Cossacks, so i wanted to say that Peonia was only region of the Kingdom so its impossible to say it is belonging to any country now, 3000 years after, the same goes for Macedonia Kingdom...continuing
aerofilll 2 months ago
@kostasdania Modern politics in this days has nothing to do with History, because History is not constant and is changing all the time, what is now Greece in 1000 years could be France or what is now Republic of Macedonia could be Holland in 1500 years.I hope anybody here won`t get piss on me, I am neutral here but history is my job..so PEACE to ALL here
aerofilll 2 months ago
@aerofilll - I believe we must put things into context. Macedonians were a Greek tribe from the Greek ethnos. The name Macedonia is synonymous with the Greek ethnos. This, being an archaeologist, you will know from the plethora of evidence we have. Now that the Macedonians conquered other territories is merely conquest. That they had foreign soldiers in their ranks is merely strategy...cont'
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@aerofilll - The Former Yugoslav Republic violates the rights of Greece by exclusively dominating a name and an identity that is Greek by firstly claiming the ethnicity of Macedonia as exclusively theirs, it violates Greece by claiming "lost" lands based on this false ethnic identification based on no solid primary link. In context it is synonymous with Egypt , Iran, Afghanistan claiming they are the true Macedonians and their country should be called the Republic of Macedonia. cont'
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@aerofilll - As an archaeologist your view is appreciated in so far as you can identify the Macedonian artifacts and inscriptions. It has no place in the political interpretations of them. This madness has to stop. We are talking about a distinct part of the Greek history within a distinct part of a geographical area that was Macedonia proper...Let's not confuse the issue more than it has already been confused by those without any link to it... Peace to you as well....
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@aerofilll - Pontus is now in the hands of the Turks. Does it make the history of Pontus Turkish? Can the Turks say that they are Pontiuns of History? No they cannot. Mexico briefly belonged to Mexico. Can they say they are the true Texans? Can they claim Texas as part of a Greater Texas state that should be included into Mexico? No they cannot. Truth must always be kept in context or truth becomes useless..The intent of Skoje who has no link I'm sure...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo Texas briefly belonged to Mexico***
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo IM WITH U ALL THE WAY!!!
kostasdania 2 months ago
@kostasdania you sound like albanian from kosovo..they always stick together in hordes
iviciaable 2 months ago
“It has been said very clearly and many times that the country (Former Yugoslav Republic) will get an invitation for membership AFTER the name dispute is settled" - Philip Reeker, the US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State during a recent meeting with journalists in Washington.
They are waiting for you to either prove your claims or CHANGE your name. Since it's impossible do the 1st then hurry up with the 2nd the world has more important things than your irredentist agenda to think about
Gwrgo 2 months ago
And Macedonia is in Greece. 4000+ years of recorded unbroken history. 4000+ years of continuous primary links. 4000+ years of references from foreign and native sources attesting to its Greekness. "yunan takbara" was the name given to Macedonians in the 6th century BC. GREEKS WITH HATS"...Every name every inscription every reference every recorded piece of culture religion tradition...ALL GREEK. Don't take my word for it...c 4 urself
watch?v=SI9c5xqJLFI
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo there is one problem with your theory, that problem is my grandfather ! :) ..if he was one of this kids, and they are Greek Kids,then my grandfather is a Greek...and according to that..i am Greek...DAMN...well .my Greek bro..we together are Greeks as you pointed.so why we are fighting then here..long live Greece !!! ..my country is Greece !!!...so..now really stop because you checkmated yourself..it happens..so..if i didnt reply you anymore, don`t get mad at me..my countryman :*
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - It's typical. U didnt even see the Greek children video or any other video I gave u to see what was going on. U prefer the delusions of ur propaganda sites and the memories of the brainwashed Janissary's. Maybe you are Greek. Either from the communist parents or those stolen from their families. In which case your denial is greater and my sadness for u more... U wont answer because you cant answer and still save face. That is why ur now posting rhetorical garbage!
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - "As long as the blood runs in my veins, my Bulgarian soul will always be for the freedom of Macedonia and her Bulgarian people. For I hope it will not be held against me that I, as a Macedonian, place the interests of my country before all. I am a Macedonian, I have a Macedonian consciousness and so I have my own view of the past, present and future." - Krste Misirkov
If you cant listen to factual evidence then listen to your own heroes...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo i just hope you are not working for some kind of anti macedonian ..pardon anti-"slav" Ku Klux Klan or secret service or something !? i am afraid because i still got cousins in Kukush..pardon Greece..pardon Makedonia pardon Kukes. One thing i forgot..if Krste Misirkov is Bulgarian and he speaks " i am Macedonian.." and Macedonians according to you are Greeks..then Misirkov is Greek or Bulgarian then !? DAMN..i don`t know who i am anymore..you confuse me completely ..i give up..YOU WIN !
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Ridicule only shows ur a blabbering fool. The slavic population of the F.Yugoslav.RoM are Bulgarians. Hiding among them are the communist Greeks who fled Greece after the Greek civil war to avoid atoning for their crimes, the brainwashed Greek stolen children & their descendants. This has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Which of these u r I really I don't care. I care only that u've been exposed and you have been, time & time again by all credible proof...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians" - Krste Misirkov
"The political & military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." - US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, Dec1995
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo Damn..this is not gonna work this way ! We must have to back to that HLA DNA analysis to finally see who is who..because, according to your latest theory, your Country have naming dispute with Bulgaria actually,and your country must visit Bulgarian Embassy for further dialog and compromises ! I doubt that Bulgarians will be excited about this newest turnaround of politics between both countries, so i will said again that DNA test will solve the mystery without war between BG and GR
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Since u wont learn I will r-epost the videos you refuse to see which includes the debunking of the Villena garbage.
watch?v=hd1JLxWni7E - genetics
watch?v=j30oc2DCdd8 & watch?v=RY-j5O-Ynng Greek stole children
watch?v=SI9c5xqJLFI - History of Macedonia
watch?v=-9vn5J9Ij10 - ur propagandists
The world, not brainwashed by ur state has demanded u change ur name& stop violating the Dec. of Human rights against the millenia old ethnic and cultural identity of Greece.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo wow..interesting videos..quite official and relevant i must say :)..but, because there is cities in Alabama, New Jersey,Indiana,Ilinois,Tennessee, Iowa, Ohio and even in Romania and Brazil with the name "Macedonia" (Wikipiedia)..i think we got bigger problem here i am afraid, my suggestion is Greece to enter in another naming dispute with USA Romania and Brazil...
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - and it is quite fine as a foreign nation to have a city in honor of the Greek state and it's history. Like Alabama, New Jersey, Indiana etc you are welcome to pay homage to our history as well...NONE OF THESE SAY THEY ARE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WHO NEED TO UNITE THE REST OF THE "STOLEN" MACEDONIA. Again you play the victim to your detriment...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo so if mentioned countries USA Romania and Brazil accept that they where violated or stole the name which according to you belongs to Greece, we..in Republic of Macedonia will apologize to you and we will proudly say that we are from F.Y.R.O.M. On the other hand that will be another big administrative problem because around 120 countries (with USA,ROM,BRA) accepted our constitutional name but..nevertheless promise is a promise..
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - You are not the Republic of Macedonia for anything but political expediency. You know it we know it the world knows it. No one recognizes you as ethnic Macedonians as you claim and that is because they know that YOU ARE NOT. You are for all other purposes the former YUGOSLAV republic until you find a name to suit your slavic origins and/or paeonian geography that does not violate the ethnic or cultural rights of the real Macedonians of GREECE.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo until then i am planning to delete all my posts here, so you Greeks ..pardon ancient Macedonians can talk to each other here..because i am putting in silence until your dispute with USA,ROM and BRA get solved because i believe that will be correct political act form myself in interest of not speaking evidence in case which is still active..sincerely yours..Alexander..ups
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - more garbage. If you intend to delete your posts its because youve shown yourself to be a shyster and you have proven that this video and all of Greece's claims of your agenda are in fact TRUE and you don't want proof of your nonsense recorded.... you write nothing but garbage typical of a tool...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
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iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - TITLE: "GREEK CHILDREN" A documentary made by Radivoje Lola Djukic in 1948, with the support of Avala Film in Belgrade. It is narrated in Serbian/Croatian, and does not have subtitles. - Again you have been found talking out of your ass...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Are you threatening us with a conspiracy with the CIA? Are you that big a fool that you cant see that they support Albania over your YUGOSLAV Republic. Wouldn't you be in NATO by now if they were taking "care" of you? Oh they have plans for you alright but it isnt what you were hoping for...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
We are getting fed up with your irredentist bullshit and propaganidstic lies. Brussels has ordered you to change your name to fit your slavic identity and/or Paeonian geography. Cut the crap and HURRY UP
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo lies and propaganda like "bombing a Macedonian refugees convoy in 1948 with napalm bombs" ?! that kind of lies !? ..changing the names of all Aegean Macedonian cities and villages and then the names of the people who was not greek nationality into greeks !? you should get cover yourself with some bricks and never show up ! your case is like Hitler saying " I was not killing jews, they are making propaganda against Germany " that kind of lies !?
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - your answers are laughable. What have you got to do with the Greek civil war firstly? secondly when Greeks took back the lands that belonged to her she returned the toponyms with their original etymologies in the language they were derived. In macedonia throughout history..EVERY TOPONYM EVERY HYDRONOMY EVERY ONOMASTIC IS GREEK in etymology. How do you factor this basic truth into your assumptions? or is playing the victim too important to waste time with FACTS?
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo First of all, shut up !!..dont make me laugh please, tell me one thing only..i will not elaborate the all 300000 crimes and lies which you done..so..mister wise guy...you said greece has taken back names right ? for example..tell me,, before it was called Kukush ( Кукуш) you said that it was called Kukes..right !? thats your story !? ..maestro..my origins are from Egejska Macedonia..i have 10 generations roots in Kukush..so it was called Kukush 500 years ago, so shut a fuck up...
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - lol talk about spitting the dummy. I could almost feel the spit dribbling down your chin.
So you were called kukush 500 years ago? You fool, Thats the SOUTH SLAVIC name the BULGARIANS gave it. What was it called before that I wonder? Oh look...a GREEK name Krystonia attested in Aristotelis work "'Περί θαυμάσιων ακουσμάτων' where he writes about (in GREEK of course) the temple of Dionysou of Krystwnia. Lots of nia's no Couscous....Brainwashed ignorant idiot
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo stolen greek children !!! wow :))) this is the maximum, you can go better than this one !! maestro..you scared me, honestly you did, but never mind, you got fighting spirit, that`s good, but you know what, you are beating yourself :)) and this is the same thing about Greek politic toward us. Look my friend, CIA headquarters for the whole Balkan are in Macedonia, a veeery scary big building, dont get me wrong, i am not CIA fan, but that is my answer about that 3-rd world status of ours...
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - you stutter huh? well let me repeat it for your benefit...
VIDEO TITLE: "GREEK CHILDREN" A documentary made by Radivoje Lola Djukic in 1948, with the support of Avala Film in Belgrade. Go check it out...."the truth will set you free"...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Egeksa is just the SLAVIC name for Aegean ALSO a GREEK name...a region named Aegean Macedonia exists only in your brainwashed Bulgarian head...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - The treaty of Nuilly sent u bulgarians back to Bulgaria. Those that stayed IDENTIFIED as GREEKS. Those GREEKS who became communists & didnt like the outcome of the CIVIL war and fled to Vardarska Banovina (modern day Skopje) to avoid atonement for their crimes are upset now at the Greeks? you are pathetic, brainwashed tools of their agenda. You spit on your real ancestors so that they can get even with their own who didnt want to become part of the communist block.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo Second : I have 7 relatives which where killed ( 3 children -brother of my grandfather with them) during bombing of UK planes on refugee columns, there where no comunist there..women and children Fuc*er...so eat shi* and die...watch this and die again /watch?v=IVCZTmXR1h0 ..your state is old 60 years..mine is 3000 years,you are from north Africa..go and VETO me, thats all you can do Greek Heroes..MACEDONIA is the NAME ,VETO VETO VETO ME your country is falling apart by the way,bye
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Of course they were dear. What else do you think they will tell you considering their agenda. Just unsubstantiated shyte from your propaganda mills. Why give me a doctored video of the original one I gave you? Weve already seen the title give it by the maker....STOLEN GREEK CHILDREN. Go check for yourself its in the credits...As for the eating shit part...keep your cuisine, I prefer the Macedonian cuisine of my Greek forefathers...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo so whats my point, If somebody from upstairs wants Greece collapse, it will be !
Easy made easy gone, problem is that you will not handle that, we are used to this things in last 2000 years, so trust me, we are stronger in that manner.Thats my answer to your Ilirida sindrome also, if uncle Bob wants, you will catch that flu veeery easy ! So everything is so eaaaasy in this world you would n` believe how easy is...so again, you are playing cards that does not exist, wrong cards..wrong !
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - So you hold onto your britches and wait for "upstairs" to come fulfill your irredentist agenda that has no historical value whatsoever. in the meantime however, you applied for your first aid from the IMF. That damn "warrior on a horse" your tax payers were taken for, so Gruevski (whose grandfather was Greek by the way) could Hellenize the area sure put one over on you...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo I understand that when you stole someone`s part of the country, you will be paranoid after, that`s normal, but you are crossing the known limits of the universe in your paranoia :)) I mean Ok, we are weak, have no army, no planes..but even without that you are still loosing !? why !? Because your country trapped itself in its own shiiit !
I can`t imagine what would be if we where Turkey for example instead ?uh .bad scenario i must admit Horror SF-movie, you would be nuked i guess..huh
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - there u go with the bullshit. We liberated it from the Turks. Are u a Turk? You must be a Turk because considering ur open friendship. Then ?more victimization crap. In the meantime Turkey is your best friend. But oh no, Turkey is having internal problems and conflicts with Israel and the USA. And Greece has signed alliances with Israel is NATO Partner with the U.S. and an EU member the EU is doing everything to protect . Still putting all your hopes on the CIA?
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo I mean look, there is even good things in Greece, i am admiring November 17 and those stuffs, we need same thing here, actually i got even friends in Greece but there is one big unknown for me ! how the fascism got roots in Greece !? i guess there is some connection with WW2 because the fraction that was opposing communist was pro-fascist But that was 60 years ago and thing are not changed since then.Your country is miracle of science my friend :)
iviciaable 2 months ago
@Gwrgo So..With all respect to intelligent/wise and normal Greeks ( not you...Hitler was intelligent but was imbecile actually) I wish them good fortune and future, until the moment we buy nukes :)) I am kidding :))..give the poor a piece of breed, and he will return to you with wine and cheese one day..Kick that poor man, and you are kicking yourself !! so with this words of wisdom..i say bye bye to you..please stop posting, there us no end here and i got a work to do in the meantime you know
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - My job is done. U've just proven everything in this video. No facts, full on irredentist crap & more victimization. Do urself a service. Stop spitting on ur real ancestors. They deserve better. Learn who u really r & then go & create something for ur country worthy of giving it a place in history on its own merit. Because if u continue on this path of stealing the history of every one of your neighbors who are all NATO and EU members, ur days r done...
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - And we didn't need to veto u dear. The Bulgarians & Albanians declined your application on the grounds that u STOLE their history too & that you make irredentist propaganda against them... Sound familiar?
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - re: my country falling apart. Don't worry we have survived worse than this & wont get to ur third world status even if we go bankrupt. We will still be your best foreign investor & your biggest supplier of foreign aid even after u become the Republic of Ilirida when the Albanians become a majority while your waiting for someone to believe that you're Macedonians without any link whatsoever to it... Just keep posting more garbage & it will happen quicker than u think
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo If you are real ortodox christian which I doubt, you should be ashamed and asking forgiveness from the God, only then we will be equal and we can talk from equal level of morality ! sweat dreams and nice sleep !
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - I will never be ashamed for speaking the truth, or defending it against brainwahed fools who pander to an irredentist agenda. I will never be ashamed of defending my identity which is also defended by the declaration of human rights. So go ahead and call on God to hide behind. You use him on kanal 10 to reinforce that you are makednski's progenitor of the entire white race why not to play the victim in your attempted theft of something that has nothing to do with you
Gwrgo 2 months ago
you are getting nervous my friend
iviciaable 2 months ago
Until you show us "actual" proves that you have a direct connection with ancient macedonians, you will get nothing from Greece. And from the evidences we have, the only conclusion is there was never a seperate macedonian nation, at least not before the 20th century
anhpoulos 6 months ago
Who denies you to speak your language. You can speak your language as much as you want so you can prove that you have no relations to ancient macedonia as you speak a slavic language almost the same with Bulgarian. Why can you accept that your history as a nation is less than 100 years old. The only "proves" that you have is that you mention the name Macedonia in different times of history. So what? That doesnt prove anything. The name macedonia is ancient, we know that.
anhpoulos 6 months ago
... officially named "Warrior on a Horse,"
Well well what happenw here ??? we spend $13.38 millions
yet
we call it the warrior on a horse ??
think of that FYROM for a momment...
WE ARE BULGARIANS THAT'S WHY!
PEACE !
makedonchesto 8 months ago
@makedonchesto u stupid turk go eat some turksih food doner kebab= gyro shish kebab= souflaki
sasik3 4 months ago
They destroyed Yugoslavia. Believe me 1 thing, if they do the same thing to Serbia, the Balkan will be 100 % Property of the US.
iWigY 9 months ago
You want to be good with me, remove macedonian propaganda and all your lies you make about slavs doing this and that, and then we're cool. otherwise you will face your most frightening nightmares you ever have. I talk the talk and i also walk the walk.
SuperSerbianWarrior 11 months ago
and free macedonia from bad greeks. leave macedonians alone. ¬!!!!
SuperSerbianWarrior 11 months ago
@SuperSerbianWarrior
Macedonia=Greece
You=Schizophrenic Psycho
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
It's not true, the serbs in macedonia are been treated bad from greeks. I have seen it with my own eyes, i have also few recrods that greeks killed many macedonains. You are forgetting that macedonians are old serbs? I dont understand why you act nice with kosovo and bullshit us with the next page? Macedonians are old serbs, and they speak the old serbian language. Why dont you just leave them in peace but kill them? If Arkan was alive, he would know what we must do to free kosovo from siptari
SuperSerbianWarrior 11 months ago
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@TheLolizzZ
And you also tend to forget that went the war in Kosovo happened Greeks helped serbs
Sebrs were sending their kids to live with greek families until the war ended and most of them stay in touch until today
Greeks never supported Kosovo as being non serbian
I have never met a greek that does this except if he is any albanian worshiper psycho
My best friend is serbian
Please learn to understand what and who is macedonia
macedonians are greek, fyromians are slavic people
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@TheLolizzZ We Serbians never need anyones help besides our slavic brothers. You try to be nice and then you spit rude words towards slavs. We are real warriors and you know it. The only bind we have is our religion, nothing else. One day we will maybe work to kill siptaris, but thats because they are on your way. For us, they are nothing. Once US leaves, we will take back whats ours, including our brothers in skopje and far below. My slavic pride I will not hide... CCCC
SuperSerbianWarrior 11 months ago
@SuperSerbianWarrior
I spit rude words?
Hello i am defending slavs from stupid white schizophrenic supermacists that claim they are not
For us they are nothing either they are not in our way
you tend to forget that fyromian army is all lended to them by US!
and a lot of albanian army as well ;)
Hunny there is a documentary made about this where the kids talk
My godmother family had a serbian girl staying over for two years ;)
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@TheLolizzZ Oh really? I don't remember this ever happening. You are such a stupid greko psycho. You have just made this shit up, and you make it as if it's a fact? JEBEM TI MAJKU !!! I always knew greeks make things up while they talk, but you, you are such an embarresment to yourself. Greek history is like you !!! Jebi se !! CCCC
SuperSerbianWarrior 11 months ago
@SuperSerbianWarrior
Greek history is one of the gratest histories in the world
Alexander the Grate himself had said " I am proud to be born a Hellene"
When you talk with me talk english not serbian
I don't even let my boyfriend who is russian talk russian in the house
not because i don't like russian language i like it but why to talk russian or greek when it is not needed?
same goes for your serbian here
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@TheLolizzZ hahahhaa, Alex hahahha, he was Greek? Don't make me laugh !! He was Macedonian! And sure whatever you say about your history MUST or HAS to be TRUE!! You exist only from those filthy siptaris and the west. They saved your ass this time and now you become rude here spitting bullshit out! I speak whatever language i like OK??? Good BYE KURVA!
SuperSerbianWarrior 11 months ago
@SuperSerbianWarrior
Even his name was greek
yes he was macedonian=greek=hellene
even the name alexandros in greek language means the protector of the men,and alexander had said himself "I am proud to be born a Hellene"
and not in my video ;)
Or else...tha se gamiso me donhth me aids apo ton kwlo sou mexri na psofhseis lathos ths fyshs
You are luck i have respect for serbs...
Better to be a kurva than an asexual person like u
(P.S My fiance is Russian!!)
TheLolizzZ 10 months ago
@TheLolizzZ - superskop is not a serbian. No serb speaks like that to a Greek who is spreading the word of the theft of Kosovo. But as usual they make fake accounts to create trouble between nations for their own gain. If you look for his account it is closed as they usually do once theyve created their illusion...
Gwrgo 7 months ago
@TheLolizzZ - Dont forget that the Skopjians were one of the first to recognized Kosovo as "Kosova the autonomous albanian state" while Greece refused both recognition and to participate in the nato attacks....Serbian people are not stupid and there is no love for the Bulgarians of Skopje who are attempting to steal Greek history...
Gwrgo 7 months ago
@Gwrgo
I know these things
Serbian people in general are honest and not backstubbers
take care
TheLolizzZ 7 months ago
@Gwrgo dude..that fascism of yours will destroy you in very close future, we " MACEDONIANS" are used to be surrounded by wolves from all 4 sides in the past 500 years, Hellenization, Bulgarization, Serbization of Macedonia is our not very happy past, but dont worry, we are here again, and as it seems you will lose your artificially made state very quickly,and not by as, we are peaceful nation,. but by the same western powers that made Modern Greece, but i am not happy, I am sad for you actually
aerofil11 2 months ago
@aerofil11 - please spare us the victim card it's sickening. U no more have a Macedonian identity than u can escape ur true Bulgarian one. A hodgepodge nation whose revisionists paid to create ur fake "macedonian" identity cant even make up their minds which version of history they agree upon. All one has to do is look upon the primary evidence of the ages to see an unbroken continuous Hellenic identity of Macedon & an ethnic Bulgarian identity for u. U have more evidence of being a poodle
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo oh..thank for your scientific contribute in this discussion..but..have you ever heard of HLA European National Center for Biotechnology Information..so..this guys made a research in late 90`s i think it was, and took a blood DNA samples from this regions, do you want to know the results !? I am not gonna tell you results myself, it may be shocking for you and don`t want you get mad at me after, cause in nothing personal, its just on scientific base, cause science is science..yes !?
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - I have but you must be the only idiot on the planet that didnt hear that it was a farse
Gwrgo 2 months ago
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aerofil11 2 months ago
@Gwrgo Hmm..HLA farse ? interesting argument from your side, i will have to analyze it :)))) also currently i am searching for HLA official email for you to contact them, and you will must tell them that they are idiots like me and that they are wasting milions of euros for nothing...shi***t ! you convince me..i am starting to believe that i am not Macedonian...DAMN !!
aerofil11 2 months ago
@aerofil11 - I asked them to provide their study for peer review but...there is none. I asked them what they termed "Macedonian"..& they said..they named makedonski the gene they found in the former YUGOSLAV repbulic of makedonski & that it's similar to Bulgarians. When I asked them why they included the study of mice (mus macedonicus) in their bibliography for macedonians....they didnt reply. U would believe anything ur propagandists tell u. Intelligent people would find a primary link
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo no no no...i said in previous post..you already convinced me, forget that Macedonian stuff, we do not exist ..Alexander Macedonian was Alexander Bulgarian actually, your roots are not in sub-Sahara tribes..so i am sorry for everything i said, i was wrong..and i am officially saying..."that from now..we Macedonians are ...BRAZILIANS" !!!!!!!!!!!!
iviciaable 2 months ago
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@iviciaable - stop with the theatrics. You fool no one. You are bulgarians. Im not trying to convince you I am stating a FACT.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Alexandros, Filippos, Aristotelis all ethnic GREEKS. But here is an interesting video you should watch. Not that facts mean anything to your pie in the sky rhetorical garbage...
Pseudo Gene Wars: watch?v=hd1JLxWni7E
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo Yes i agree, Alexander II the King of pre-ww2 Yugoslavia was not Serb, he was Greek (Alexandros II), Alexander Aliehin the best chess player of all times was not Russian he was Greek also...(Alexandros Aljehin), my cousin Alexander Talevski is Alexandros Talos and i will tell him tomorrow to change his name ! and 1 Billion other examples...but what to do with some other suspicios half million or more people which now live in Aegean region and their names are similarly changed !?
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - Must suck to have no primary link to Macedonia. I bet it just eats u up that u cant link Zlatko or Vesna to Alexandros and Aristotelis, Paeonia to Macedon proper, Bulgarian that you speak to the Greek inscription on EVERY Macedonian stone. It burns you up so badly that u need the theatrics of a baboon to avoid having to address it. EVERY name EVERY inscription EVERY reference EVERY toponym EVERY hydronym EVERY piece of art EVERY symbol, HELLENIC while all of urs r Bulgarian
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@Gwrgo ..i will answer for you if you don`t mind, I suggest you to use napalm bombs like in end of 40`s in last century for all "suspicious " minority there, and they will escape also, especially women and children are easy targets for bombing and especially when are escaping in large groups or "convoy" of refuges...1 napalm bomb = 100 dead ! ..so we find the solution !!! ..long live Greece !!
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable - You want us to use napalm bombs on our Muslim minority? Are you sick or something? "large convoy of refugees? You must be talking about the 28,000 Greek children that you Communists stole from their families in the GREEK civil war and brainwashed them into the communist doctrine. Their parents gave their name to the red cross, numerous calls from the entire world were made for their safe return and many from other SLAVIC communist countries were returned. Only Skopje refused
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - But I see the communist indoctrination was quite effective for the communists who fled to avoid facing court for their crimes against the GREEK state. Stalin knew what he was doing when he stated, "give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevist for ever"....
watch?v=j30oc2DCdd8 live footage of the Greek kids and their brainwashing to fight for the communists. It was taken by a Croatian who saw it first hand.
watch?v=5IsCO9QSZz0 this is a more detailed account
Gwrgo 2 months ago
@iviciaable - We Greeks and especially we Macedonian ones, feel great pity for you. You have been robbed of your true Bulgarian or Greek identity for a communist agenda. ur whole existence is a lie. u are a tool in a warfare so sick it creates jannisaries from children who fall prey to them. u parakeet information from ur propaganda sites without question without rhyme or reason and take as gospel the word of shysters and charlatans over respected academics. It is truly sad to watch.
Gwrgo 2 months ago
bravo file foverh douleia
greekcypriot004 11 months ago
fucking clinton and bush faggots..I hope they get.....cancer
Serbia1544 11 months ago
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And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS!
4anuvis4 11 months ago
Και να τονιστεί από όλους μας πως το Greece βγαίνει από το Γραία=γριά και ήταν θρησκευτικό επίθετο και όχι εθνικό όνομα! Έλλάς/Έλληνες ήταν είναι και θα είναι η εθνική ονομασία.Ως πόλεις κράτη αυτοδιοίκητα είχαν τους δικούς τους κανόνες μα εθνικά αυτοονομάζονταν ως Έλληνες.Το Greeks υιοθετήθηκε από τους Λατίνους ως παράφραση/αντιδάνειο από το Ελληνικό Γραικοί.Γραία ονομάζονταν η θεά Αθηνά και η Δήμητρα!!Συνεπώς τα περί διαφοράς στα ονόματα Ελλάς Μακεδονία πάνε περίπατο!!
4anuvis4 11 months ago
@4anuvis4
Etoimazo video me auto ;)
Gia olous tous amorfotous albanoskopianotourkoboulgaromalakes :D
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@TheLolizzZ Μπράβο καμάρι μου!! Στον αγώνα!! :)
4anuvis4 11 months ago
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And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS
4anuvis4 11 months ago
That's the plans of the NWO, to end nation states.
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
We are not denying you your language, or your basic human rights.
We are just asking (kindly), that you do no call yourselves Macedonians and steal Greek history.
Poor little brain-washed slavs :(
sikfreak6969 11 months ago 15
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aerofil11 2 months ago
@sikfreak6969 Your history begins in Arabia, Morocco and Egypt Mr.Big Brain, you got connection with ancient Greeks as Chinese got with Ethiopia, actually we " Slavs" got more connection with ancient Greeks than modern Greeks have.. so yes, Macedonia is Greece ::) Modern Greece is made by the same powers (USA,UK) which are criticized in "Mr.Another Big Brain author of the video" here, and will be destroyed by the same powers, easy come easy go.It is happening already actually :*
aerofil11 2 months ago
@aerofil11 Correct me If I'm wrong, but the human race in it's entirety, hails from Africa. We are all descendants from the first homosapiens to walk thie earth...from AFRICA. Your country is founded on political ideology of fascists and communists. We GREEKS as a country, fought against NAZI GERMANY in WWII. How dare your pathetic propoganda journalists disgrace our flag with the NAZI symbol. The world knows the truth. You will get NOTHING from GREECE!! VETO VETO VETO! boohoo...go have a cry..
sikfreak6969 2 months ago
@sikfreak6969 VETO!,thank you for that veto:*, European Union will exist in about next 4 years, half of European Union is bancroft , there was a saying in these regions " you are in debts like Greece" ..like i child i didn`t understand that saying..i thought it was a joke.So.don`t get me wrong but.you can stay in that E.U as much as you wish ! That thing about your flag was humorous symbolism about your politics in past 20 years, you are not so dangerous like fascist's don`t flatter yourself :)
iviciaable 2 months ago
@sikfreak6969 and i will not comment that about homosapiens heritage, please don`t say that in public, they will think you are in 3-rd grade, of course we are all from Africa ( maybe ) i didnt say that to offend you, every nation should be proud about their roots no matter is from China...Morocco or Southern African tribes, like you..so be black and be proud !! ..don`t get me to serious, i am kidding with you..you are ancient Greek..cheers maestro, you got 1 Uzo from me ! kiss
iviciaable 2 months ago
@iviciaable It's NATO we veto you from...not EU. lol You're better off not joining the EU. Greece will however, live on forever...your "country" has a lot of growing up to do. Your history as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, starts from 1993.
sikfreak6969 2 months ago
@sikfreak6969 oh Nato..sorry, my mistake, Nato,EU same sh**t, anyway, leave the jokes behind, there is new balance of great powers going on if you didn`t notice, Russia is already building base in Nis Serbia and there is negotiations for another one in Macedonia, most probably in weapon training polygon Krivolak, so..bye bye Nato.Even Nato as souch will exist in maybe 10 years at most. You are right about Former Y.R.M date...but thats "Former" which means "Ex" now is Republic of Macedonia.:
iviciaable 2 months ago
@sikfreak6969 and about history of " MACEDONIA" i will not start that again..if some Chinese even is feeling Macedonian, than he is Macedonian, but if you say that we Macedonians are not " MACEDONIANS" thats quite a paradox don`t you think !? but..you think what you wanna think,say what you wanna say, its a free world ( maybe) ...and i got a work to do..so cheers my Neighbor
iviciaable 2 months ago
@sikfreak6969 some of my colleagues at work point me for another mistake of mine, so i am sorry again, my mistake, that F.Y.R.O.M thing was invented only for relations with Greece..so your country don`t get mad at us, actually our constitutional name was always "Republic of Macedonia"..so i don`t know real number of how many countries recognize us with that name, but i dont wanna mistake again, you check on google and tell me this time .uh..mistakes mistakes mistakes
iviciaable 2 months ago
very good work
i have greek firends and have lived in greece for one year with erasmus programm and visit in every year for holidays
i was not well informed about kosova but i have read a lot of theories and history
it shows they brainwashing
Junrenkun 11 months ago
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Slavs are subhuman?
Greeks are subhuman?
And not muslim albanian bush lovers?
I don't hate albanians i just want an answer
I met an albanian who was claiming that irish people ( i am half irish ) are albanian
No i am half celtic not have caucasoid whatever
learn to accept that there is not even one possibility for you to be 100% illyrian
AriadneNealie 11 months ago
Φοβερώ βίντεο αδερφούλα.
Μπράβω!
serreosoo8 11 months ago 3
Very nice video
i am only 1/3 greek but i live in this american propaganda as i live here
in sweden most people at least my family do not support kosova being albanian
don't worry my greek and serbian friends
propaganda will be terminated
WorldwideBeauty 11 months ago 2
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This video is stupid, and only intended to waste peoples time, everyone FLAG THIS VIDEO!!
l0v3ly0c3an 11 months ago
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@l0v3ly0c3an
Is this all you can say??
Because as it seems this is all you know to do!!!
But of course i don't expect anything better from a person that worships Bush and Clinton and Zionism
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
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@l0v3ly0c3an
Fucking Albanian Subhuman! Back to the Caucasus you piece of trash!
TheMomemtum 11 months ago
@TheMomemtum The only Subhumans (Untermenschen) I know are Slavs and Greeks. Albanians are europeans, unlike slavs and greeks. Both of you are not welcomed in europe ! When wehrmacht comes once in power, we will wipe you all off the fucking map, dirty filthy untermenschen SLAVS and fucking gay greece!! Go back to asia with your currency and shit life! You are not welcomed in europe!!!!
eye2o12 11 months ago
@eye2o12
Please you ar enot even illyrians?
How are you illyrians?
your faces are square like caucasoid slavo mongols
Also you forget conviniently that a lot of serbs live in albania and a lot of your labanian whores ran away with them?
North Epirus is full with greeks serbs and italians,they are way more than albanians
Albanians on aborad never say they are albanians they say usually they are italians but the difference between them is that italians are hot and have hellenic dna ;)
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@TheLolizzZ lol, you prove yourself to be more stupid then you talk. I am not Illyrian whatever that means, and whats with the racist contrast? You seem so much to be into politics that you forgot who you are. I tell you who you are. A racist old faggot, typical greko, who steals money and runs away like he didnt do a thing. Now stop calling names without knowing me. You are the perfect example of a greko whore. Whatever race you are, you're filthy as a personality and very evil orientated.
eye2o12 11 months ago 2
@eye2o12
Old?I say loud i am racist i am not hiding behind dellusions saying i am but so are you
I study anthropology almost every single anthropologist is somewhat racist
You are religious?
Because evil oriented reminds me of satanists xD
Well i am orthodox in religion and very anti satanist
i could say the same things about you
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
@eye2o12
I am 1/3 greek
Greeks are white and european
they were the first europeans!
I don't know about albanians but slavs are not subhumans
Some of the gratest people were slavs
Russians the greatest slavic country
I am swedish in the biggest part i have never heard biggest crap
WorldwideBeauty 11 months ago
@WorldwideBeauty He is just another Nazi-German swine with Russian_Polish blood...an ideological faschist bastard
EllinMK 11 months ago
@eye2o12
Albanians with their dirty Chechnian language? Albanians with their Turko-Arabic culture? With their shitty DNA from the Caucasus? How about that you sandnigger, go to any white nationalist forum, like stromfront, and propose your "theories" there. Haha! You need to go back from SHQIPTERIA to ICHQERIA you ugly piece of shit.
Someone ban this sandnigger please, I doubt that he will contribute in any way to this discussion. I have never seen an educated Albanian in my entire life.
TheMomemtum 11 months ago
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KosovaChelseaTBA 11 months ago
@TheMomemtum hahhahahahhahaahahhahahha man you greeks never stop
KosovaChelseaTBA 11 months ago
@eye2o12 If you dare come in Greece ...we fuck NAZI swine again!
Du kleiner Russen-Polen bastard...:))
EllinMK 11 months ago
@EllinMK
He is not german
if he is i feel sorry for germans because i respect them
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago
xilia bravo ellhnida euxaristw pou mou to estiles...prepi na katharisi h propaganda twn sionistws, ton anthellhnwnw kai genika h propaganda XUPNATE
ellasAPOEL36 11 months ago
TERRORIST = AMERICAN GOVERNMENT
GreekTerminator 11 months ago 14
και η υπομονη εχει ορια..η μεγαλυτερη τρομακρατες μιλουν γιατι ? για την τρομοκρατια?.ενταξει ..το θεατρο του παραλογου ..θελει και καλους ηθοποιους..καμμια εμπιστοσυνη σε κανεναν !! ολοι ο καθενας χωρια με ενα μαγνητοφωνακι να γραφουμε πια την δικη μας αληθεια !!να τους δωσουμε στα μουτρα αυτη την βρωμια που ποτιζουν τα δικα μας μυαλα !! ας βαλουμε ενα τελος !! και παλι μπραβο κοριτσι μου.. ετσι με δυναμη με αληθεια !! να του λες.. ''κυριοι εισαστε ψευτες...!! σε ευχαριστω ..
sillioe 11 months ago
@sillioe
Oi tromokrates einai autoi oi koustoumatoi kyrioi pou mas tous pernane gia apeleutherotes
kai odhgous ethnwn kai kratwn
akrivws
nai eisai kala patriwtisa :)
TheLolizzZ 11 months ago