East. DNA proves beyond all doubt Adam & Ev e never existed therefore No Adam & Eve, No Sin and No need for a Bible!
It is a 2500 Bronze age story and should go back on the shelf and the world and by that I mean 'you' should grow up and take a few biology lessons. You might enjoy them.
This is really your best argument? Since the "Bible" was not assembled at the time of this writing, I believe your argument is far more fallacious along with your text. Unless the spelling of LORD is changed to OLRD. BTW...Is that the tetragrammaton or another word?
When Christians say bible is divinely inspired and helped by holy ghost you have no option to give lame excuses like ince the "Bible" was not assembled at the time of this writing. And about OLRD,I agree it was mistake. Do u agree compiler of gospels did mistake by writing 2 genealogies of jesus which has only one common name Joseph? (thank God other 2 authors did not write it). If authors of gospels did not know who was grandfather of jesus,what they speak of salvation?
@kingkhan22 I appreciate your questions and arguments. To "critically" understand the Bible, one must have a good knowledge of other ANE writings. If you learn Hebrew and read some of the thousands of other documents of the time, you will find that the Bible is "in line" with these others. Often times, writers would not follow a direct lineage but would skip parents and use grandparents. Which I have found to be more than curious since this was so important to ancient people groups!
Sharp eyes. Sad your sharp eyes could not see illogical and contradictory things of Gospels.My misspell wont take you to hell,but your stubbornness regarding gospels will take you to hell. And wise people wont wish to go to hell.
However about the Hell bullshit that concept was originally EGYPTIAN!
Although their version was far more creative. Especially considering it was Original when they made it up! It is simply Copying when Christian's take an old idea and try to make it theirs!
Add to that in the OT there is ONE meaning of Hell. That is SHEOL which means THE GRAVE!
In the Greek there are TWO meanings of Hell. One is Literal One is a Metaphor!
@MrGoodNKinky I dont want same boring hebrew lecture. U being a dumb atheist can waste ur time on thing u dont believe. If I were atheist I would have spend my time on wine and women rather studying hebrew to prove something wrong.
You don't want to know the actual meaniing of this shit in other words.
You simply want to MAKE UP what suits you. How Convenient.
So if you would be an Atheist you would be a WORTHLESS DRUNK AND SLUT! Well aren't you just the low life piece of human shit. If that is your idea of what life is all about..
What EXACTLY is stopping you now?
You clearly don't spend time researching the bible you claim to believe in or trying to know about the God you praise!
@MrGoodNKiky Whatever belief one hold but there is something called politeness which is absence in you. whether u r atheist or whatever I dont care but u r incredibly rude and if U think u r smart, its upto u. only idiots can believe that this world came to existence out of accident. Its impossible that man and women were created confidently with perfect difference to procreate.I prefer not to talk to u as Quran says when u meet an ignorant say peace and leave . bye.
you atheists should team up with the Mormons and the freaks who think Jesus is coming back on may 21 2011, you'd have the ultimate you tube trolling team. I cannot change your mind because you have your opinions. We could argue semantics for months but I'm not a bible historian or apologist so you can vent your anger on other members for a while.
you are getting Infallible and Inerrant mixed up, infallible means it cannot fail to bring across its message, inerrant means it has no errors. it is naive to think that a book the size of the bible could be translated to English without a single error of grammar or a nuance of meaning.
And that verse in Deuteronomy is concluding the Torrah (books of the law) and is basically repeated in Revelation 22:18 the end of the bible.
@Imaginefree69 "snakes and donkeys talk" - only one case each the serpent was lucifer(satan) in an animal form (doesn't count) the donkey talking was an isolated case of a miricle. "insects have 4 legs" debatable but many people thing the enlarged rear lags may have been regarded not as real legs. "bats are birds" only years ago they used to teach in schools that bats were rodents closely related to rats, and biology didn't exist back then.
@rasungod0 " the serpent was lucifer(satan) in an animal form"
This is church tradition,
but NOT what the text says.
Satan is not mentioned in this story.
Genesis 3:1
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"
@Imaginefree69 "the earth is flat" no it doesn't, do your homework . " the sun revolves around the earth" medieval church taught that not the bible. "animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman" Day 1: Heavens and Earth then Light. Day 2: Atmosphere and sky. Day 3:Dry land and oceans, fresh water systems, plants. Day 4: Sun, Moon, Stars, Planets. Day 5: Sea creatures, birds. Day 6: Land Animals then Adam the dust and Eve from Adam. Day 7: Rest (Sabbath)
@rasungod0 Your Creation sequences are confused. Observe the sequence: Genesis chapter 1 Verse 11 God made trees (day 3) V21- God made the birds (day 5) V25- God made the wild animals (day 6) V27- God created man in his own image.. male and female he created them Now chapter 2 V7- God made man from the dust of the ground V9- God made trees V19- God made birds and ALL the beasts and ALL birds V22- God made a woman from the man's rib It's a direct contradiction. They cannot both be true.
@rasungod0 SUN ORBITS EARTH: . "The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hurries to his place where it rose." Ecclesiastes 1:5 and then it says THAT means the sun went UP by ten degrees. "Isaiah.. cried unto the LORD: and he brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz." 2 Kings 20:9 - 11 "I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees..." Isaiah 38:1-8
you can't use the bible to prove the bible, rather use jesus's opponents that wrote about him in their books, they did not deny the existence of jesus and claimed his miracles were just magic, again not denying the miracles just saying they were something else. You can find many more examples of the same thing in many of the historical texts written about him that are NOT the bible.
Actually, to disprove Biblical infallibility in about 20 seconds, you could just call their claims of it saying itself to be infallible is a bare assertion fallacy. And we all know that fallacies of logic are never correct.
this was recorded in the Pentateuch, so actually, if you take 'the word' to mean the bible, the author was only talking about the first five books of the OT. (so Judaism past Moses was wrong, too.) Actually, if you look it up, the only "word" the jews claimed to be from God was the ten commandments. they did not view the bible as we view it today--as one static entity.
and i don't believe the ten commandments were ever added on to. you may be able to make an argument that in Matt. 5-7 Jesus added onto the ten commandments. but he claims he is only supplementing or fulfilling them via the sermon on the mount.
Easy. DNA proves beyond all doubt Adam & Eve never existed therefore No Adam & Eve, No Sin and No need for a Bible!
Euphobia2 3 months ago
East. DNA proves beyond all doubt Adam & Ev e never existed therefore No Adam & Eve, No Sin and No need for a Bible!
It is a 2500 Bronze age story and should go back on the shelf and the world and by that I mean 'you' should grow up and take a few biology lessons. You might enjoy them.
Euphobia2 3 months ago
This is really your best argument? Since the "Bible" was not assembled at the time of this writing, I believe your argument is far more fallacious along with your text. Unless the spelling of LORD is changed to OLRD. BTW...Is that the tetragrammaton or another word?
daveixoye 10 months ago
@daveixoye
When Christians say bible is divinely inspired and helped by holy ghost you have no option to give lame excuses like ince the "Bible" was not assembled at the time of this writing. And about OLRD,I agree it was mistake. Do u agree compiler of gospels did mistake by writing 2 genealogies of jesus which has only one common name Joseph? (thank God other 2 authors did not write it). If authors of gospels did not know who was grandfather of jesus,what they speak of salvation?
kingkhan22 6 months ago
@kingkhan22 I appreciate your questions and arguments. To "critically" understand the Bible, one must have a good knowledge of other ANE writings. If you learn Hebrew and read some of the thousands of other documents of the time, you will find that the Bible is "in line" with these others. Often times, writers would not follow a direct lineage but would skip parents and use grandparents. Which I have found to be more than curious since this was so important to ancient people groups!
daveixoye 6 months ago
If you are going to try Quoting something make sure you don't misspell the ONE WORD IN CAPS!
OLRD is not what is written!
LMAO
Stupid muslims!
MrGoodNKinky 10 months ago
@MrGoodNKinky
Sharp eyes. Sad your sharp eyes could not see illogical and contradictory things of Gospels.My misspell wont take you to hell,but your stubbornness regarding gospels will take you to hell. And wise people wont wish to go to hell.
kingkhan22 6 months ago
@kingkhan22
That is where you are wrong.
I do See MANY Illogical & Contradictory things about the entire bible not just the so-called Gospels.
Like Proverbs 17:15 The Christian Salvation Idea is an Abomination to your LORD GOD!
Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
To claim that Man is WICKED as Christians do and Jesus was Innocent / Just but died for our sins sin is an ABOMINATION!
MrGoodNKinky 6 months ago
@kingkhan22
However about the Hell bullshit that concept was originally EGYPTIAN!
Although their version was far more creative. Especially considering it was Original when they made it up! It is simply Copying when Christian's take an old idea and try to make it theirs!
Add to that in the OT there is ONE meaning of Hell. That is SHEOL which means THE GRAVE!
In the Greek there are TWO meanings of Hell. One is Literal One is a Metaphor!
1. HADES which means THE GRAVE!
2. Gehenna Jeremiah 32:35
MrGoodNKinky 6 months ago
@MrGoodNKinky I dont want same boring hebrew lecture. U being a dumb atheist can waste ur time on thing u dont believe. If I were atheist I would have spend my time on wine and women rather studying hebrew to prove something wrong.
kingkhan22 6 months ago
@kingkhan22
Facepalm!
You don't want to know the actual meaniing of this shit in other words.
You simply want to MAKE UP what suits you. How Convenient.
So if you would be an Atheist you would be a WORTHLESS DRUNK AND SLUT! Well aren't you just the low life piece of human shit. If that is your idea of what life is all about..
What EXACTLY is stopping you now?
You clearly don't spend time researching the bible you claim to believe in or trying to know about the God you praise!
MrGoodNKinky 6 months ago
@kingkhan22
If you need an ATHEIST to School you on what GEHENNA means let me know I will have no problem showing everyone how STUPID you are!
MrGoodNKinky 6 months ago
@MrGoodNKiky Whatever belief one hold but there is something called politeness which is absence in you. whether u r atheist or whatever I dont care but u r incredibly rude and if U think u r smart, its upto u. only idiots can believe that this world came to existence out of accident. Its impossible that man and women were created confidently with perfect difference to procreate.I prefer not to talk to u as Quran says when u meet an ignorant say peace and leave . bye.
kingkhan22 6 months ago
you atheists should team up with the Mormons and the freaks who think Jesus is coming back on may 21 2011, you'd have the ultimate you tube trolling team. I cannot change your mind because you have your opinions. We could argue semantics for months but I'm not a bible historian or apologist so you can vent your anger on other members for a while.
rasungod0 1 year ago
you are getting Infallible and Inerrant mixed up, infallible means it cannot fail to bring across its message, inerrant means it has no errors. it is naive to think that a book the size of the bible could be translated to English without a single error of grammar or a nuance of meaning.
And that verse in Deuteronomy is concluding the Torrah (books of the law) and is basically repeated in Revelation 22:18 the end of the bible.
rasungod0 1 year ago
@rasungod0 "infallible means it cannot fail to bring across its message"
Who told you this?
The same person who told you that the serpent in the garden was Satan?
No, no, you'll have to come up with MUCH better answers than these.
" that verse in Deuteronomy... is basically repeated in Revelation 22:18 the end of the bible."
So what?
Are you surprised that John copied from Deuteronomy?
or what?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Who is the OLRD? (see 0:09-.......)
cablepanos 1 year ago
The Bible says that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes and donkeys talk.
And that insects have 4 legs.
And that bats are birds.
And that the earth is flat.
And that the sun revolves around the earth.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
If those are true, the Bible is true.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
@Imaginefree69 "snakes and donkeys talk" - only one case each the serpent was lucifer(satan) in an animal form (doesn't count) the donkey talking was an isolated case of a miricle. "insects have 4 legs" debatable but many people thing the enlarged rear lags may have been regarded not as real legs. "bats are birds" only years ago they used to teach in schools that bats were rodents closely related to rats, and biology didn't exist back then.
rasungod0 1 year ago
@rasungod0 " the serpent was lucifer(satan) in an animal form"
This is church tradition,
but NOT what the text says.
Satan is not mentioned in this story.
Genesis 3:1
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"
Read first, speak second.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@rasungod0 "only years ago they used to teach in schools that bats were rodents closely related to rat"
They still do.
That would be because bats ARE rodents closely related to rats.
.
"insects have 4 legs" debatable
No, there is nothing debatable about it.
ALL insects have six legs
unless a Creationist has pulled a couple off.
In the species listed, ALL legs are used for walking and for locomotion.
It's a very strange error.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@rasungod0 "the donkey talking was an isolated case of a miricle."
Could you provide some EVIDENCE for talking beasts?
What with the flat earth and all
I'm not prepared to accept the unsupported testimony of scripture.
My grandpa once had a pet turtle
that played Edelweiss on the trombone,
but never with witnesses present.
It really frustrated Pops that no one believed him.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 "the earth is flat" no it doesn't, do your homework . " the sun revolves around the earth" medieval church taught that not the bible. "animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman" Day 1: Heavens and Earth then Light. Day 2: Atmosphere and sky. Day 3:Dry land and oceans, fresh water systems, plants. Day 4: Sun, Moon, Stars, Planets. Day 5: Sea creatures, birds. Day 6: Land Animals then Adam the dust and Eve from Adam. Day 7: Rest (Sabbath)
rasungod0 1 year ago
@rasungod0 If you want me to take you seriously
you'll have to do more than toss off a single line
from the top of your imagination.
And "it's a miracle" is NOT a legitimate explanation for anything.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@rasungod0 FLAT EARTH:
Isaiah 40:22 says the earth is a CIRCLE (Hebrew CHUWG).
Circles are flat, see any dictionary.
(DURE is Old Hebrew for "sphere", but Isaiah used CHUWG)
Daniel 4:10-11a tree that is as tall as the heavens
can be seen from everywhere on the earth
Matthew 4:8 has Jesus viewing the whole earth from a tall mountain
Revelation 1:7 says every eye will see Jesus coming in the clouds.
Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation all require a flat earth.
Well, either flat or bowl-shaped.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
you can't use the bible to prove the bible, rather use jesus's opponents that wrote about him in their books, they did not deny the existence of jesus and claimed his miracles were just magic, again not denying the miracles just saying they were something else. You can find many more examples of the same thing in many of the historical texts written about him that are NOT the bible.
johnnyeze 2 years ago
@johnnyeze "use jesus's opponents that wrote about him in their books"
There are no such books.
If there were,
the historicity of Jesus would not be in doubt.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
five star video mate!!!!!!
DEATH TO IGNORANTS
imprezatuner 2 years ago
Actually, to disprove Biblical infallibility in about 20 seconds, you could just call their claims of it saying itself to be infallible is a bare assertion fallacy. And we all know that fallacies of logic are never correct.
Thuggishsplicer1 2 years ago
to be fair, thats not actually 100 percent accurate....
A fallacy of logic doesnt actually prove the claim incorrect, it just makes that argument unsupported.
For instance I can make the non sequitor fallacy of a correct claim
THE SUN IS SPHERE BECAUSE I SAY IT IS
boorens18 2 years ago
this was recorded in the Pentateuch, so actually, if you take 'the word' to mean the bible, the author was only talking about the first five books of the OT. (so Judaism past Moses was wrong, too.) Actually, if you look it up, the only "word" the jews claimed to be from God was the ten commandments. they did not view the bible as we view it today--as one static entity.
rcliftonbailey 2 years ago
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and i don't believe the ten commandments were ever added on to. you may be able to make an argument that in Matt. 5-7 Jesus added onto the ten commandments. but he claims he is only supplementing or fulfilling them via the sermon on the mount.
rcliftonbailey 2 years ago