This is the problem with allying with China: they care only for themselves and will do anything they can to get ahead of you, especially if that means stealing your ideas. Countries of the world should boycott their products for as long as they're stealing off others and trying to hack in others' computer systems
@yomama629 You sound like an envy dummy. China didn't steal it, They bought it from Russia. But They did upgrade these jets to carry Chinese weapons system. As the Su27 is an outdated Aircraft. I like to see you try to boycott Chinese products lol, chinese products are benefiting the the whole world. your Jealously is laughable.
@Dragonmantis36 jealousy? More like proper business ethics. I believe in free market economics, but China isn't being fair by copying everything from everyone. Chinese cars? European car clones. Chinese planes? Russian/American plane clones. Stealing is stealing, and we shouldn't buy what they steal
China is the world's copycat. They can't even copy modern things from the U.S. or Russia, so they go back in time 20 years and make something copying that stuff and say "look what we make, it so very advanced." They also claim the U.S. is inferior, yet they try to hack our DoD systems for technology info, and every video posted by Chinese people on YT "displaying their military power", is stuff from the U.S., either from 1980, or 1950. This "China new superpower" crap is a sad, sad joke.
what? China stealing from the Russians, who had previously stole the technology from the USA... what's this world coming to? I guess we'll just have to start making knock off Wallmarts and Stolichnaya Vodka and cripple both of their economies... I wish the Chinese actually made something worth stealing... well they are leading the world in pollutants, carcinogenics and infectious diseases.... hmmmm, I'll get back to you.
Not just planes either...all the way thru the cold war they built cheap knock offs of Tanks, Choppers & rifles too. (Although their AK is supposedly one of the best)
next in the news: a sack of rice has fallenof a transporter in china. the incident occured in the province of xxx . no one was harmed. officials deny about striking facts..
HAHAHAH lack of innovation is right, I can design better planes than China can, truly, I even have a few new specs on them that have never been used on aircraft before, and it should work!
u.s is a shitty country, full of fat, lazy, ugly and bald head people, they are subhuman. They have fewer people with IQ. I'm glad that i don't live in America.
@ccpchannel1 You are glad you don't live in USA? BS, you got denied visa and you got mad. You studied English, that tells me you love USA because I fucking hate China to a point their language is a nuisance to me. Everytime I go to a Chinese restaurant, it's noisy like a bee hive. You eat pig uterus, chicken feet, ants, rats, dogs, cats. Americans eat steak and lobster tails. Who is subhuman? 85% of Chinese population still live in poor rural areas with no flushing toilets.
@ccpchannel1 “Steal China steal”....China = copycat = pirate. Everyone knows China steals commercial tech from US companies, military tech from Russia and US. Chinese fighter jets are exact copies of Russian Sukhois and US jets. 100% of movies/software in China are pirated. China profits $500 billion/year making counterfeit goods of patented products. Chinese milk killed millions of babies. Chinese toys, pencils, tools contain toxic lead. China makes crappy, toxic products.
The Chinese people are not hated around the world and they get along with people. In Somalia the Chinese paid the tarrif of all the fish they took and also many African nations prefer Chinese over Americans in business. The Chinese keep their noses out of other people's affairs, unlike USA. All these American pigs hating on China are forgetting who is keeping their fat asses a float from economic melt down.
@kaplich First image, yellow aircraft... J-10. J-10A Block Upgrade, specifically. Google that. Obviously single engine, single intake on the underside. Unlike J-15
@DjWade3734 I know, I was making a joke. They haven't come up with a single original thing in decades. Their "J-20" stealth fighter? They are trying to be semi-original with that, but their design is absolutely laughable and inefficient.
@Ariana321 My mistake haha. Sorry. I agree with everything you said. China is a imitator, not innovator. All they do is copy. I bet there's no creativity cells in what's left of their brain.
@DjWade3734 Yeah... back like centuries ago, they were some serious innovators (Gunpowder, rockets, cannons, ect) but now? They are just a joke. Their only real redeeming qualities are their wealth, and the sheer number of the little bastards.
@Ariana321 Long story short, China will be nothing today without the U.S. There military is only so good because they copy/steal from the U.S so much. Their economy is only thriving because American consumers have to buy every piece of shit that says "Made in China" on it. Now they're acting like a spoiled, ungrateful child. They are "thanking" us by stealing/copying from U.S. China is no longer intelligent. They are fucking imidating parasitics. They are so damn srupid now lol.
@DjWade3734 u don't have to reinvet the wheel.. and secondly the Chinese civilization is one of the oldest one, there are a lot of things that others had learnt from so i don't think there's anything wrong in that.. very soon you white people will get your chance to copy things from China as they'll leave u behind in every field... Dont pull their legs, instead appreciate them what they are achieving....
@TheDevilroom Jeez jerk sorry you're in so much dneial. Sorry you have to pull complete bullshit out of your ass to get to me. Deal with it. The U.S is better. On a side note, yes, I very much appreciate anicent Chinese culture. Modern day China is just a thieiving parasitic whore. I hate them.
@DjWade3734 all your comments prove that you hate them,.. no matter what they do or don't, you'll find something out of nothing to show your haterd towards them... But i don't think that matters much,.... you can live in dreams and fantasies but the reality is that China has already challenged America's supremacy over the world and this fact hurts you.. i can understand your feelings....
@TheDevilroom You don't know me and I don't know you. Only I know myself and my thoughts. Don't make stupid assumptions based on little info. I am not a racist so don't make the offending asusmption that I hate the Chinese you asshole. Try not to say retarded things. China only challenges the U.S economically. You need to face facts. Modern day China will be shit if it weren't for the U.S.
@DjWade3734 We were a superpower in the 70's, 80's and 90's when China was still dirt poor. We didn't need them then, we don't need them now, we won't need them in the future. Since when did we allow this communist country to disrupt our lives? Obama is too stupid to deal with crooked Chinese or he is bought by corporate donors. Romney promised to get tough with China. If we cut all ties with China, Chinese economy will go bankrupt because the US market is 90% of Chinese exports.
@DjWade3734 its not china that is dependent on you,.. its USA and EU that are begging for China help in their markets... don't fool yourself, admit the facts..
@TheDevilroom You're so fucking stupid it's unbelivable.BOTH countries are dependent on each other.China's economy would suck if the U.S wasn't it's biggest consumer. You know why China's economy recovered during the 2000s?Because the Chinese make all the U.S' products and then the U.S buys it from them.Same as their military. All they do is copy/steal U.S military secrets/designs/ideas.Not to mention they copy the Russians too.Unfortunetly, the U.S needs China so it can keep its economy afloat.
@TheDevilroom, before china have money now ? ever thought how china get the money ? ever wonder how at alllll.. ? do you think all manufacturing technology in china, they invented ? who open manufacturing in china ? go check yourself. and ask all the company in china, who transfer the money the most to china bank account ? how many container china export to USA per year ? you Chinese, better pray USA is fine if not no one will buy your product.
@moistfaucet well if you start thinking of those things then have u ever thought how America is getting all that money ?????? why America is invading the oil rich countries ???? Atleast China is not doing any harm to any other nation to get money,........
@TheDevilroom, china is not doing any harm because china is not at that stage YET. i agree with american that Saddam Hussien is a time bomb. China will not harm any nations because china is able to dine with devil on the same table together. but not american. sorry.
@moistfaucet go screw yourself, us is printing money by throwing national bonds out.us economy is going down.soon everybody will dump us currency as trading currency.no one see that coming? still living in yesterday dream? wake up dude
@topkualamu166461, when US have money ever, thought how they are going to spent it ? buy what product ? do you think China will Survive alone without EXPORTING ? the one that wake up is not me, it is you.
@sfsd911 are u living in some kind of neverland, disneyland or whatever fland? go check with your criminal fed, u think us could possiblely pay up the debts that owing to China?crooked or no crooked, just open up your text book, see how so-call 'american' massacre the native american red indian, then the african slavery, kkk massacre, us was full of shit, is full of shit.
@DjWade3734 Chinese are the most racist people on earth. They came to other countries in search for food or refuge. When they become well-fed, they betray the countries that embraced them as refugees. They discriminate against the local people. They came to Vietnam by millions in search for food and refuge from persecution in China, but they hate the Vietnamese, calling Viet monkeys & gooks. They live in the US, but they hate Americans. How about "No dogs and Chinese allowed"?
Wow... truly, you are making little sense. These 'facts' you're pointing out can be proven little else than opinionated assumptions an foolish arguments. Whereas an educated being knows to step away from a verbal argument, especially one on the INTERNET.
To make a point, China is barely an industrialized nation. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for your leaders pressuring the U.S. to buy it's goods, (which wouldn't last long anyway) I can only imagine where China'd be at now.
@JLXZ83 China = superpower?.....LMAO.....Not every Chinese has a flushing toilet. 85% of Chinese still live in poor, rural areas without medical, foodstamps, unemployment benefits, safe drinking water. Although China is #2 economy, but the CCP hoard all the money for investment and military buildup, leaving its people scramble for their own living. China's per capita income is $4,323 compared to US $48,643 and Japan $47,856. Superpowers don't copy, steal & cheat.
@TheDevilroom China has challenged US supremacy? The last time I checked, the US is still the #1 economy and #1 military. The US is capable of bringing down China’s economy (bring on the trade war) and its country back to stoneage. You must be a communist spreading propagandas for China's state-run CCTV? China isn't shit yet, and it won't be anything but hype. China just wants attention to elevate its international status. China = cheater in business, thief of technologies.
There have been many fine looking aircraft build in Russia over the years. But to have a go at China for 'copying' a Russian design is just a bit much. The people behind this report must be young as they do not remember the 'copies' made in Russia. Have a look at the VC 10 copy (Ilyushin Il-62), the Concorde copy (TU-144), the Shuttle copy (the Buran) are 3 that spring to mind. Is this a case of what goes around comes around?
Fuck China. China = Copycat. A country like China that allows and encourages stealing and coping copyright/patented products, not inventing, will never be a superpower. NO RESPECT for crooked chinks. What a shame on China: stealing and copying everything. Chinese are known around the globe for copyright infringement and making counterfeit products.
@powerofthroughts You goes everywhere defending Chinese wrongdoing by saying "update". Update my ass, China = copycat. What is wrong with their people? No respect for the crooked chinks.
You children really need to read this and thumbs up for it! cuz scientist use the sentence all the time --> When you copy something directly and outcame the samething same performance that is copy, but when you copy and make improvement on it, it is called research." if you guys are really saying this a a copy of that ancient clock work of rusty rusky su33. guess what you guys are all wrong, thats a new chinese flying plastic toy (avaliable in wal-mart. Lol)
T10K man blame the Ukrainian first....but maybe you should blame it to the chernobyl incidents first that is draining Ukrain government's money..oh where does that lead to..the soviets??? oh no its the russians today. man russians always blame ppl, just like they think that alaska was a worthless land sold to america..yet if russia didnt sold that, the soviet would win the coldwar instead of wasting money and time in cuba.
@nuckleheadrevolution The West and Russia didn't have any shame either when they copied German jet and missile designs after World War II. It's only okay if I copy, but it's off limits for anyone else. If you are not capable of even copying an existing design, how is it possible for you to create your own, superior designs? The Japanese copied Western technology back in the 60s and 70s and look where they are now.
why must ur keep saying china copy ??? i don understand common every fighter get will have wing and the tail right ,so no matter how u design it some how it will look the same . u cannot design a plane with 6 to 10 wing right must be logistic. i think that mabe j-11 model is copy because they still can't really design a plane at that point of time or they are not sure their design work or they need to research why the russian plane fly so well .
LOL Duh theve always been doing this but then again there not the only ones i remember when America couldnt make a stable rocket engine with enough power that wouldnt explode bu the russians did so they bought 101 From Russia and took em apart to study
But...haven't they always done that? all the way through the cold war they made low grade copies of Soviet Planes, tanks, etc. They make a pretty good AK according to ak-47.net
First of all they would be very low quality. We have 170 F22 Raptors, and a single Raptor can take on 10 F15's. Imagine having all the F22 raptors fighting 5000 of those low cost aircraft. And if that wasn't enough we have 1480 F18 hornets, 1000 F15's, 1200 F16 Fighting falcons, and a top of the line air defense from the sea. And we can always bomb Chinese air bases and prevent them from taking off anyway.
@Juanchopepe86 Have you ever heard the Chinese carrier-killer missile? One missile sinks one aircraft carrier with all the F15's, F16's and F18's down with it. LOL!
That is exactly what makes your Chairman of Joint Staff Adm. Mike Mullen can't sleep at night.
China got working anti-satellite systems in place. Without surveillance and communication, US is getting back to long before Vietnam War. We all knew what happened in Vietnam War, LOL!
@dharmdevil LOL! You got the message. One single carrier-killer missile sinks the whole aircraft carrier. That has made Chairman of Joint Staff Mike Mullen awake at the night.
Search the video "Just can't crack why China needs such high-end high-tech capability - January 13, 2011" and hear Adm. Mike Hullen in person, LOL!
and 3400 of those fighters wil bring down all the F 15/16/18/35 you'll put up there especially with their far superior missile detection and scrambling technology...welcome to the new air power.... russia devellops, china produces, america bleeds out financially trying to keep up....
@Juanchopepe86 Some idiots just pretend that they can't understand why the anti-satellite systems is so crucial in the modern warfare.
ALL the high-tech weaponry, such as "smart bomb", "killing drone" ... are counting on the satellite surveillance and communication for provide the target and guidance information to the smart weaponry. Without satellite, "smart weapon" can't work at all.
US military just ges back to 18th century without the satellites, LOL!
@AntiDefm and china and russia is different? you say they don't use satellites? If china or russia can destroy satellites, you think US can't destroy China's and Russia's too? If US military goes back to 18th century, Russia and China goes back to the stone age lol.
@dharmdevil So far, US has just invaded smaller and weaker countries such as Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan.
Having war with Russia or China is completely different game. They may all go back to 18th century or "stone age" (as you prefer) with the US. But the crucial difference is the time is not on the US side.
It's well known that Amercian high school kids are ranked nearly at the bottom of all industrial countries. They can't read, can't write, can't do the math or physics. No future, LOL!
@AntiDefm invaded smaller countries? iraq is the 5th largest military power in the world kid. Afghanistan is the HQ for the world's largest terrorist network. Vietnam was backed up by both China and Russia when there was war. Well how about China let's see, hmm, their having their very first Carrier while US have 11 SUPERCARRIERS and planned 3 more advanced carrier upto 2023 while china doesn't even know if their even gonna succesfully finish it and goes back in computer copying US tec
@dharmdevil hahaa, another fuckhead who has been successfully brain washed by american government. if u say democracy, then american HAS NO FUCKING RIGHT TO attack any country in the world, if u say man kind is equal, then AMERICAN HAS NO RIGHT TO SLAUGHTER other people. whatever the information u know about iraq and afghanistan is fabrication. as u have stated AMERICA IS ONLY COUNTRY THAT THREATEN THE WORLD due to amount of carriers it has. so red neck the judgement day will fall upon american
@bloodelfshit What? we're not talking about whether America's reason for invading other country is justified or not, we're talking about military strength in here. You clearly evading the topic and steering it away means your just one of those jealous kids out there who just learned how to use YouTUbe COmment. Get a life.
@dharmdevil oh ye, i think u r the first one who started blar blar blar about american navy shit. also looks like u admit american's war crime, but you just dont have guts to let other people judge it? fucking red neck.
@bloodelfshit what? this discussion started w/ you genius saying that f-15 and f-18s are on a carrier. then stating america as a weaker country compared to china or russia so i responded facts and how puny china or russia's military is compared to US. then there you go talking about justice and US's bullying OH FCK WHO CARES?! i never inteded to talk about that nor I care. I'm no american nor chinese nor russian. I'm just a spectator watching this sh8s take out each other.
@dharmdevil wo if you are nobody, why dont you fucking dig a hole and climb down. we chinese dont need some mother fucking white shit to judge on us. take care your own business, work harder. so your government dont have to borrow money anywhere
@Afireman4u SU 35,37 superior to the F 15 and 16.You take 10 russians pilots (cleary trained better,handle more shit)and put them against 10 panzy American pilots in a F15 and ill guarantee you a kill ratio of 7-3 on the Russian side.Youre too stupid to know anything about the KRST radar systems on the Su 37.Just keep talking shit and American pilots can show their prowess on 3 world pilots.They have never shot down a Russian piloted plane and never will.Cheers American inbred .F 15 hahahaha pff
@masterfistlord Americans had limited skirmishes with the russians in Korea ,all the migs that went down were piloted by the koreans and not the Russians,I suppose you also believe the 15-1 kill ratio on youre side, please.For how many planes the Russians had up there they certainly dominated the Americans but your generals and historians wont admit to that ha.Watch a documentary "sky battles in Korea" german made film and youll see the truth,or you can go watch the history channel pffffff.
@altoona701 There were plenty of Russian Aces and some chinese + Nkorean. Even they got killed. These infos are backed independently. However the U.S. Airforce won't acknowledge this and played along, because an escalation of this kind could've lead to ww3. you might want to grab a few historybooks instead of a single tv documentation. Russian Aces in Mig 15s had a killratio of approximately 2:1 against F86s . However F86s had a killratio of over 10:1 against the regular NK AF
@masterfistlord Exactly thats my point the Russian pilots dominated the Americans with a lot less planes.And ive read books about korea probably more than you and not just western books try russian ,German,chinese etc.
Its funny reading all the comments slating Chinese junk when the reality is your homes are full of it enabling you to funtion, without it you'd be screwed. Most of your home multimedia entertainment systems and appliances are imported, you're just consumers, China does all the production, thats why they're flourishing and our economies are down the shitter with obscene and irreversible national debt. They're laughing cus they produce shit for us and make quality products for themselves.
@ChuckMamuck You say that without realize that the US is STILL the worlds leader in manufacturing by a large margin. While China makes all of the cheap stuff we see everywhere, the US makes a lot of the bigger, high tech stuff that isn't found in your home. SO while China has master the art of mass producing bouncy balls, we have the technical expertise to make fighters, carriers, ICBM and what have you.
What else is new with china.They cant build one thing on there own without copying.The FC-1 based off the F-20 Tigershark.J-10,based off the gripen and F-16.There other planes are exact copies of russian fighter's,they also copied the F-22 can ruined it's perfect stealth design to make the Junk-20
Imitation before invention... consider Japan post-war till now in business, tech and industry. F-22 was and is a big white elephant. Which is why it was cancelled years ago. Stealth only achieved in dry weather - else no better than the F-117. Another example of manufacturers misleading US government into lining their pockets with billions of dollars on tech that is unproven and completely overstated in its usefulness as an economically sustainable tool for today's aircraft.
china is just piece of shit they copying everything losers fuck china
germany2010ful 57 minutes ago
lest's see the facts: CHINA COPY ALL FROM RUSSIA AND U.S.! JUST LIKE THAT!!!!
malvelus 2 hours ago
This is the problem with allying with China: they care only for themselves and will do anything they can to get ahead of you, especially if that means stealing your ideas. Countries of the world should boycott their products for as long as they're stealing off others and trying to hack in others' computer systems
yomama629 1 day ago
@yomama629 You sound like an envy dummy. China didn't steal it, They bought it from Russia. But They did upgrade these jets to carry Chinese weapons system. As the Su27 is an outdated Aircraft. I like to see you try to boycott Chinese products lol, chinese products are benefiting the the whole world. your Jealously is laughable.
Dragonmantis36 21 hours ago
@Dragonmantis36 jealousy? More like proper business ethics. I believe in free market economics, but China isn't being fair by copying everything from everyone. Chinese cars? European car clones. Chinese planes? Russian/American plane clones. Stealing is stealing, and we shouldn't buy what they steal
yomama629 5 hours ago
Chinese even clone themselves ...
cranos666 1 day ago
China is the world's copycat. They can't even copy modern things from the U.S. or Russia, so they go back in time 20 years and make something copying that stuff and say "look what we make, it so very advanced." They also claim the U.S. is inferior, yet they try to hack our DoD systems for technology info, and every video posted by Chinese people on YT "displaying their military power", is stuff from the U.S., either from 1980, or 1950. This "China new superpower" crap is a sad, sad joke.
TheWhynaut 2 days ago
what? China stealing from the Russians, who had previously stole the technology from the USA... what's this world coming to? I guess we'll just have to start making knock off Wallmarts and Stolichnaya Vodka and cripple both of their economies... I wish the Chinese actually made something worth stealing... well they are leading the world in pollutants, carcinogenics and infectious diseases.... hmmmm, I'll get back to you.
bpmrox 3 days ago
Not just planes either...all the way thru the cold war they built cheap knock offs of Tanks, Choppers & rifles too. (Although their AK is supposedly one of the best)
lst1195 3 days ago
BIG DEAL.
Japan did the same thing in 1960s 1970s 1980s
Search4diabetescure 3 days ago
This is no surprise. China will steal from anyone to try and have an advantage. Fuck China.
wjp255 6 days ago
Yes yes yes, the world needs Russia and China to be at each others throat!
Metalunique 1 week ago
Looks more like they copied the Eurofighter Typhoon.
kdrapertrucker 1 week ago
@kdrapertrucker Yup they even have what seems to be a cheapo copy of the old Israeli Lavi.
stryker65 1 week ago
chinese are MASTER of COUNTERFEIT
juanmarquez7867 1 week ago
@juanmarquez7867 Its Chinese from People's Republic of China..Taiwanese and Hong Kong Chinese will not
janiceyuling90 1 week ago
china good for copy suck is you buy make from china suck is you keep buy from them go to hell all copy
ongdianewyork 1 week ago
My iPhone was fake,,China sucks
kafirstunner666er 1 week ago
China as usual
MrDICKHEAD28 1 week ago
next in the news: a sack of rice has fallenof a transporter in china. the incident occured in the province of xxx . no one was harmed. officials deny about striking facts..
(just a gag here in germany )
Serkant75 2 weeks ago
Да китайцы у всех всё воруют, вот только получается хуёво :DDD
Artemalido 2 weeks ago
For their size and wealth they actually know nothing, copy everything else...
FooCork20 2 weeks ago
LOL fucking cina
SuperDirtyRandy 2 weeks ago
the Chinese would copy my cock if they found out how much women love it =]
surfgodx 2 weeks ago 20
this is old news the 2 countries are making fighter jets together now so this is irrelevant.
MrSteveykk 2 weeks ago
no shit shurlock, just noticed, what are you going to do about it, get them a huge weapons deal with more good tech to copy? YES
hotrod4you2 3 weeks ago
Ding dA da ding ding ding ding ding
TheBrett6231 3 weeks ago
If China wanted a decent military, they need to copy the US and not Russia.
player276 3 weeks ago
@player276 Nice joke!
jaromT 3 weeks ago
WHAT? russia and china want to get into IP battle over plane designs? LOL
romanbuehler 1 month ago
if it's anything like the Chineese motorcyles then it will probably break down after about 1 week
shovelniron 1 month ago
Russian Saturn AL-31 engine..
forgottenmemories63 1 month ago
HAHAHAH lack of innovation is right, I can design better planes than China can, truly, I even have a few new specs on them that have never been used on aircraft before, and it should work!
82ndairborne100 1 month ago
And people think that this is News?
82ndairborne100 1 month ago
they also copy the F-16 and they call it F-2
ramfery23 1 month ago
Lol Hasnt China been copying Russian Equipment since the 50's?
AccessDenied55 1 month ago
u.s is a shitty country, full of fat, lazy, ugly and bald head people, they are subhuman. They have fewer people with IQ. I'm glad that i don't live in America.
ccpchannel1 1 month ago
@ccpchannel1 You are glad you don't live in USA? BS, you got denied visa and you got mad. You studied English, that tells me you love USA because I fucking hate China to a point their language is a nuisance to me. Everytime I go to a Chinese restaurant, it's noisy like a bee hive. You eat pig uterus, chicken feet, ants, rats, dogs, cats. Americans eat steak and lobster tails. Who is subhuman? 85% of Chinese population still live in poor rural areas with no flushing toilets.
sfsd911 1 month ago
@ccpchannel1 “Steal China steal”....China = copycat = pirate. Everyone knows China steals commercial tech from US companies, military tech from Russia and US. Chinese fighter jets are exact copies of Russian Sukhois and US jets. 100% of movies/software in China are pirated. China profits $500 billion/year making counterfeit goods of patented products. Chinese milk killed millions of babies. Chinese toys, pencils, tools contain toxic lead. China makes crappy, toxic products.
sfsd911 1 month ago
@ccpchannel1 Where do you get your information? In your dreams??
zkenzo 1 month ago
@zkenzo i get my information from Russia and china government , where did you get your from mother fucker
ccpchannel1 3 weeks ago
Until China begins to create, they are mere copiers of other's creativity...
Roy Lewis Atlanta, Georgia USA
rlewis1946 1 month ago
1 birrion chinese and they still need to copy white people
sharpiellll 1 month ago
@sharpiellll wow 1 birrion must be a lot of people...
cvunit 1 month ago
Over 1 billion people and none of them cant think of a different design
MrSilverfish12 1 month ago
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The Chinese people are not hated around the world and they get along with people. In Somalia the Chinese paid the tarrif of all the fish they took and also many African nations prefer Chinese over Americans in business. The Chinese keep their noses out of other people's affairs, unlike USA. All these American pigs hating on China are forgetting who is keeping their fat asses a float from economic melt down.
SMLIPRT 1 month ago
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SMLIPRT 1 month ago
@kaplich First image, yellow aircraft... J-10. J-10A Block Upgrade, specifically. Google that. Obviously single engine, single intake on the underside. Unlike J-15
LizzelTheMizell 1 month ago
Too bad that first image they showed was a J-10. Single engine aircraft...remarkable similarities to the Su-33? Don't think so.
LizzelTheMizell 1 month ago
@LizzelTheMizell
it was two engines J-15... google for images of J-10
kaplich 1 month ago
@LizzelTheMizell
oh.. you are right.. first two images are J-10 but the following yellow one is J-15 :)
kaplich 1 month ago
Nooooo! China wouldn't copy another country's stuff.....
FlatulousMaximus 1 month ago
China backward engineering military items????? I just can't believe it. They are the master race after all!
Maturin01 1 month ago
Haha as long it does the job haha
KidFrom106 1 month ago
jeez can china do anything else other than copying russian and american planes
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 Sure they can. Look at the J-10, that isn't a copy of either a Russian or American plane.
Its a copy of an Israeli plane, the Lavi.
Ariana321 1 month ago
@Ariana321 I don't care. They're still copying.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 I know, I was making a joke. They haven't come up with a single original thing in decades. Their "J-20" stealth fighter? They are trying to be semi-original with that, but their design is absolutely laughable and inefficient.
Ariana321 1 month ago
@Ariana321 My mistake haha. Sorry. I agree with everything you said. China is a imitator, not innovator. All they do is copy. I bet there's no creativity cells in what's left of their brain.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 Yeah... back like centuries ago, they were some serious innovators (Gunpowder, rockets, cannons, ect) but now? They are just a joke. Their only real redeeming qualities are their wealth, and the sheer number of the little bastards.
Ariana321 1 month ago
@Ariana321 Long story short, China will be nothing today without the U.S. There military is only so good because they copy/steal from the U.S so much. Their economy is only thriving because American consumers have to buy every piece of shit that says "Made in China" on it. Now they're acting like a spoiled, ungrateful child. They are "thanking" us by stealing/copying from U.S. China is no longer intelligent. They are fucking imidating parasitics. They are so damn srupid now lol.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 u don't have to reinvet the wheel.. and secondly the Chinese civilization is one of the oldest one, there are a lot of things that others had learnt from so i don't think there's anything wrong in that.. very soon you white people will get your chance to copy things from China as they'll leave u behind in every field... Dont pull their legs, instead appreciate them what they are achieving....
TheDevilroom 1 month ago
@TheDevilroom Jeez jerk sorry you're in so much dneial. Sorry you have to pull complete bullshit out of your ass to get to me. Deal with it. The U.S is better. On a side note, yes, I very much appreciate anicent Chinese culture. Modern day China is just a thieiving parasitic whore. I hate them.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 all your comments prove that you hate them,.. no matter what they do or don't, you'll find something out of nothing to show your haterd towards them... But i don't think that matters much,.... you can live in dreams and fantasies but the reality is that China has already challenged America's supremacy over the world and this fact hurts you.. i can understand your feelings....
TheDevilroom 1 month ago
@TheDevilroom You don't know me and I don't know you. Only I know myself and my thoughts. Don't make stupid assumptions based on little info. I am not a racist so don't make the offending asusmption that I hate the Chinese you asshole. Try not to say retarded things. China only challenges the U.S economically. You need to face facts. Modern day China will be shit if it weren't for the U.S.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 We were a superpower in the 70's, 80's and 90's when China was still dirt poor. We didn't need them then, we don't need them now, we won't need them in the future. Since when did we allow this communist country to disrupt our lives? Obama is too stupid to deal with crooked Chinese or he is bought by corporate donors. Romney promised to get tough with China. If we cut all ties with China, Chinese economy will go bankrupt because the US market is 90% of Chinese exports.
sfsd911 1 month ago
@sfsd911 Right on man. We need to cut ties with China because we created that monster.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@DjWade3734 its not china that is dependent on you,.. its USA and EU that are begging for China help in their markets... don't fool yourself, admit the facts..
TheDevilroom 1 month ago
@TheDevilroom You're so fucking stupid it's unbelivable.BOTH countries are dependent on each other.China's economy would suck if the U.S wasn't it's biggest consumer. You know why China's economy recovered during the 2000s?Because the Chinese make all the U.S' products and then the U.S buys it from them.Same as their military. All they do is copy/steal U.S military secrets/designs/ideas.Not to mention they copy the Russians too.Unfortunetly, the U.S needs China so it can keep its economy afloat.
DjWade3734 1 month ago
@TheDevilroom, before china have money now ? ever thought how china get the money ? ever wonder how at alllll.. ? do you think all manufacturing technology in china, they invented ? who open manufacturing in china ? go check yourself. and ask all the company in china, who transfer the money the most to china bank account ? how many container china export to USA per year ? you Chinese, better pray USA is fine if not no one will buy your product.
moistfaucet 1 month ago
@moistfaucet well if you start thinking of those things then have u ever thought how America is getting all that money ?????? why America is invading the oil rich countries ???? Atleast China is not doing any harm to any other nation to get money,........
TheDevilroom 4 weeks ago
@TheDevilroom, china is not doing any harm because china is not at that stage YET. i agree with american that Saddam Hussien is a time bomb. China will not harm any nations because china is able to dine with devil on the same table together. but not american. sorry.
moistfaucet 4 weeks ago
@moistfaucet go screw yourself, us is printing money by throwing national bonds out.us economy is going down.soon everybody will dump us currency as trading currency.no one see that coming? still living in yesterday dream? wake up dude
topkualamu166461 3 weeks ago
@topkualamu166461, when US have money ever, thought how they are going to spent it ? buy what product ? do you think China will Survive alone without EXPORTING ? the one that wake up is not me, it is you.
moistfaucet 3 weeks ago
@sfsd911 are u living in some kind of neverland, disneyland or whatever fland? go check with your criminal fed, u think us could possiblely pay up the debts that owing to China?crooked or no crooked, just open up your text book, see how so-call 'american' massacre the native american red indian, then the african slavery, kkk massacre, us was full of shit, is full of shit.
topkualamu166461 1 week ago
@DjWade3734 Chinese are the most racist people on earth. They came to other countries in search for food or refuge. When they become well-fed, they betray the countries that embraced them as refugees. They discriminate against the local people. They came to Vietnam by millions in search for food and refuge from persecution in China, but they hate the Vietnamese, calling Viet monkeys & gooks. They live in the US, but they hate Americans. How about "No dogs and Chinese allowed"?
sfsd911 1 month ago
@TheDevilroom
Wow... truly, you are making little sense. These 'facts' you're pointing out can be proven little else than opinionated assumptions an foolish arguments. Whereas an educated being knows to step away from a verbal argument, especially one on the INTERNET.
To make a point, China is barely an industrialized nation. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for your leaders pressuring the U.S. to buy it's goods, (which wouldn't last long anyway) I can only imagine where China'd be at now.
JLXZ83 1 month ago
@JLXZ83 China = superpower?.....LMAO.....Not every Chinese has a flushing toilet. 85% of Chinese still live in poor, rural areas without medical, foodstamps, unemployment benefits, safe drinking water. Although China is #2 economy, but the CCP hoard all the money for investment and military buildup, leaving its people scramble for their own living. China's per capita income is $4,323 compared to US $48,643 and Japan $47,856. Superpowers don't copy, steal & cheat.
sfsd911 1 month ago
@sfsd911
How did I say ANYTHING about China being a superpower?
Or are you talking about the other guy?
JLXZ83 1 month ago
@TheDevilroom China has challenged US supremacy? The last time I checked, the US is still the #1 economy and #1 military. The US is capable of bringing down China’s economy (bring on the trade war) and its country back to stoneage. You must be a communist spreading propagandas for China's state-run CCTV? China isn't shit yet, and it won't be anything but hype. China just wants attention to elevate its international status. China = cheater in business, thief of technologies.
sfsd911 1 month ago
China making cheap counterfeits?!?! Who woulda thought...
benjy468 1 month ago 36
@benjy468 Except that the J-11 is a whole generation more advanced than its supposed copycat victim Su27.
Ravensteinzh 1 month ago
@benjy468 YOU KEEP THEY just noticed, what are they going to do about it, get them a huge weapons deal with more good tech to copy? YES
hotrod4you2 3 weeks ago
I bet U this will be like they cars...a pice of shi***t XXDD
mauricioalfredo83 1 month ago
There have been many fine looking aircraft build in Russia over the years. But to have a go at China for 'copying' a Russian design is just a bit much. The people behind this report must be young as they do not remember the 'copies' made in Russia. Have a look at the VC 10 copy (Ilyushin Il-62), the Concorde copy (TU-144), the Shuttle copy (the Buran) are 3 that spring to mind. Is this a case of what goes around comes around?
WingNuts2010 1 month ago
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Fuck China. China = Copycat. A country like China that allows and encourages stealing and coping copyright/patented products, not inventing, will never be a superpower. NO RESPECT for crooked chinks. What a shame on China: stealing and copying everything. Chinese are known around the globe for copyright infringement and making counterfeit products.
sfsd911 1 month ago
@powerofthroughts You goes everywhere defending Chinese wrongdoing by saying "update". Update my ass, China = copycat. What is wrong with their people? No respect for the crooked chinks.
sfsd911 1 month ago
@sfsd911
Your argument could be refuted by a 5 yr old, LOSER
warfwar91 1 month ago
Ah! China copying Russian military... what else is new?? lol
bigtimv 1 month ago 23
The Chinese are pirating to the Russian fighters.
MrPanzerbr 1 month ago
You children really need to read this and thumbs up for it! cuz scientist use the sentence all the time --> When you copy something directly and outcame the samething same performance that is copy, but when you copy and make improvement on it, it is called research." if you guys are really saying this a a copy of that ancient clock work of rusty rusky su33. guess what you guys are all wrong, thats a new chinese flying plastic toy (avaliable in wal-mart. Lol)
jack99889988 1 month ago
T10K man blame the Ukrainian first....but maybe you should blame it to the chernobyl incidents first that is draining Ukrain government's money..oh where does that lead to..the soviets??? oh no its the russians today. man russians always blame ppl, just like they think that alaska was a worthless land sold to america..yet if russia didnt sold that, the soviet would win the coldwar instead of wasting money and time in cuba.
jack99889988 1 month ago
It's ok guys, it comes with a designer handbag and a Gibson Les Paul made out of plywood.
2012JohnGalt 1 month ago
LOL
HaloSlayer 2 months ago
CHINA COPIED OTHER COUNTRY... what a surprise....
EagleMarine2012 2 months ago
Plastic version of Russian Su-33? These chinese have no shame whatsoever.
nuckleheadrevolution 2 months ago
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1JesseW 1 month ago
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@nuckleheadrevolution The West and Russia didn't have any shame either when they copied German jet and missile designs after World War II. It's only okay if I copy, but it's off limits for anyone else. If you are not capable of even copying an existing design, how is it possible for you to create your own, superior designs? The Japanese copied Western technology back in the 60s and 70s and look where they are now.
1JesseW 1 month ago
What Havent the Chinese Copied?
ShaiqNBaiq5464 2 months ago
que les importa a los americanos quien copia a quien???
elsepufreerider 2 months ago
why must ur keep saying china copy ??? i don understand common every fighter get will have wing and the tail right ,so no matter how u design it some how it will look the same . u cannot design a plane with 6 to 10 wing right must be logistic. i think that mabe j-11 model is copy because they still can't really design a plane at that point of time or they are not sure their design work or they need to research why the russian plane fly so well .
ngabc96 2 months ago
A chinese spy in russian base?? COME ON
akaboy4life 2 months ago
@akaboy4life Russians are Asian.
ShaiqNBaiq5464 2 months ago
@ShaiqNBaiq5464 Not all, depends what region
Herimia 2 months ago
The pot calling the kettle black... LOL
r1cw 2 months ago
china can copy and paste more technology than a xerox machine.
mastererik323 2 months ago
LOL Duh theve always been doing this but then again there not the only ones i remember when America couldnt make a stable rocket engine with enough power that wouldnt explode bu the russians did so they bought 101 From Russia and took em apart to study
MrTimothytim 2 months ago
why make your own planes if Russian's are selling their fighter jet blue prints and parts to Chinese
common sense
SgtRedScare 2 months ago
want to see who really made the "J-10"? or should i say, Lavi...
youtube.com/watch?v=zWVxFZp-ZLc
djomercohen 2 months ago
DO SOMETHING RUSSIA!!! OR WWIII WILL OCCUR.
pjshotingstar 2 months ago
I wonder how the computer work on the J-15.
pilot: Alright I m flying the world advance fighter.
computer: Welcome to the J-15.
Pilot: Oh cool this must be the indigenous advance software.
computer: Langue selection menu press 2 for Russian or you can press 1 for "Ching cha chong ching ching".
pilot: WTF *confuse*.
truonghthe 2 months ago
CHINA ! ASIAN WETBACKS !
P71CVPI07AZ 2 months ago
@P71CVPI07AZ China Asian Wetbacks! LOL good one
canaryman69 2 months ago
Well when one copies others creations,one is always playing catch up...
Its like running a foot race,with one foot in a bucket.....The longer the race the further behind they get...It is what it is....
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
Why buy when you can steal.
aronverst 2 months ago
why build your own when you can copy the best
glennirish 2 months ago
russia gonna do anything about it ........ no
NJT97 2 months ago
You can't trust the Chinese
erikd217 2 months ago
CHINA Y U COPY DAT RUSSIAN MILITARY???
2prize 2 months ago
But...haven't they always done that? all the way through the cold war they made low grade copies of Soviet Planes, tanks, etc. They make a pretty good AK according to ak-47.net
lst1195 2 months ago
The Chinese negotiated a license with the Russians to build the Su-27 as the J-11 and the Su-33 as the J-15.
n74jw 3 months ago
AND SO ?
pasakari 3 months ago
fuck there j-20 is a copy of the US CALF project.
USAmilitarypower 3 months ago
@USAmilitarypower
That was lightweight aircraft project. J-20 is twin-engine heavy fighter...
MokomaSusi 3 months ago
@MokomaSusi it was still a designee
USAmilitarypower 3 months ago
if its made in russia its junk
philbiglicks 3 months ago
@philbiglicks Not junk, but probably not as good as American.
Elthenar 3 months ago
@philbiglicks
If its made in China, its total garbage.
Juanchopepe86 3 months ago
@Juanchopepe86 but if they build a few 1000's pieces at low cost it can still anihalate any enemy airforce....
jawadad802 2 months ago
@jawadad802
First of all they would be very low quality. We have 170 F22 Raptors, and a single Raptor can take on 10 F15's. Imagine having all the F22 raptors fighting 5000 of those low cost aircraft. And if that wasn't enough we have 1480 F18 hornets, 1000 F15's, 1200 F16 Fighting falcons, and a top of the line air defense from the sea. And we can always bomb Chinese air bases and prevent them from taking off anyway.
Juanchopepe86 2 months ago
@Juanchopepe86 Have you ever heard the Chinese carrier-killer missile? One missile sinks one aircraft carrier with all the F15's, F16's and F18's down with it. LOL!
That is exactly what makes your Chairman of Joint Staff Adm. Mike Mullen can't sleep at night.
China got working anti-satellite systems in place. Without surveillance and communication, US is getting back to long before Vietnam War. We all knew what happened in Vietnam War, LOL!
AntiDefm 2 months ago
@AntiDefm "sins one aircraft carrier wiath all the F15's, F16's and F18's down with it. LOL!"
GENIUS, an f-15 and f-16 on a carrier wow
dharmdevil 2 months ago
@dharmdevil LOL! You got the message. One single carrier-killer missile sinks the whole aircraft carrier. That has made Chairman of Joint Staff Mike Mullen awake at the night.
Search the video "Just can't crack why China needs such high-end high-tech capability - January 13, 2011" and hear Adm. Mike Hullen in person, LOL!
AntiDefm 2 months ago
@Juanchopepe86 170 x 10 = 1700 5000-1700 = 3400
and 3400 of those fighters wil bring down all the F 15/16/18/35 you'll put up there especially with their far superior missile detection and scrambling technology...welcome to the new air power.... russia devellops, china produces, america bleeds out financially trying to keep up....
jawadad802 2 months ago
@Juanchopepe86 Some idiots just pretend that they can't understand why the anti-satellite systems is so crucial in the modern warfare.
ALL the high-tech weaponry, such as "smart bomb", "killing drone" ... are counting on the satellite surveillance and communication for provide the target and guidance information to the smart weaponry. Without satellite, "smart weapon" can't work at all.
US military just ges back to 18th century without the satellites, LOL!
AntiDefm 2 months ago
@AntiDefm and china and russia is different? you say they don't use satellites? If china or russia can destroy satellites, you think US can't destroy China's and Russia's too? If US military goes back to 18th century, Russia and China goes back to the stone age lol.
dharmdevil 2 months ago
@dharmdevil So far, US has just invaded smaller and weaker countries such as Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan.
Having war with Russia or China is completely different game. They may all go back to 18th century or "stone age" (as you prefer) with the US. But the crucial difference is the time is not on the US side.
It's well known that Amercian high school kids are ranked nearly at the bottom of all industrial countries. They can't read, can't write, can't do the math or physics. No future, LOL!
AntiDefm 2 months ago
@AntiDefm invaded smaller countries? iraq is the 5th largest military power in the world kid. Afghanistan is the HQ for the world's largest terrorist network. Vietnam was backed up by both China and Russia when there was war. Well how about China let's see, hmm, their having their very first Carrier while US have 11 SUPERCARRIERS and planned 3 more advanced carrier upto 2023 while china doesn't even know if their even gonna succesfully finish it and goes back in computer copying US tec
dharmdevil 2 months ago
@dharmdevil hahaa, another fuckhead who has been successfully brain washed by american government. if u say democracy, then american HAS NO FUCKING RIGHT TO attack any country in the world, if u say man kind is equal, then AMERICAN HAS NO RIGHT TO SLAUGHTER other people. whatever the information u know about iraq and afghanistan is fabrication. as u have stated AMERICA IS ONLY COUNTRY THAT THREATEN THE WORLD due to amount of carriers it has. so red neck the judgement day will fall upon american
bloodelfshit 2 months ago
@bloodelfshit What? we're not talking about whether America's reason for invading other country is justified or not, we're talking about military strength in here. You clearly evading the topic and steering it away means your just one of those jealous kids out there who just learned how to use YouTUbe COmment. Get a life.
dharmdevil 2 months ago
@dharmdevil oh ye, i think u r the first one who started blar blar blar about american navy shit. also looks like u admit american's war crime, but you just dont have guts to let other people judge it? fucking red neck.
bloodelfshit 2 months ago
@bloodelfshit what? this discussion started w/ you genius saying that f-15 and f-18s are on a carrier. then stating america as a weaker country compared to china or russia so i responded facts and how puny china or russia's military is compared to US. then there you go talking about justice and US's bullying OH FCK WHO CARES?! i never inteded to talk about that nor I care. I'm no american nor chinese nor russian. I'm just a spectator watching this sh8s take out each other.
dharmdevil 2 months ago
@dharmdevil wo if you are nobody, why dont you fucking dig a hole and climb down. we chinese dont need some mother fucking white shit to judge on us. take care your own business, work harder. so your government dont have to borrow money anywhere
bloodelfshit 2 months ago
@dharmdevil Wow! "Iraq is the 5th largest military power in the world"?!
Where you heard it? Radio Free Europe? radio Liberty? or Voice of America?
What an idiot!
AntiDefm 2 months ago
Чтобы скопировать истребитель надо большой научно-технический потенциал иметь.
lilian20ful 3 months ago
Only China would copy a 35 year old design lol
OlderG0ds 3 months ago
@OlderG0ds lol if it aint broke pimp it out
ZeroDarkOmega 2 months ago
@OlderG0ds whats a eagle f15, f16 etc over 40 years old american dick head
altoona701 2 months ago
@altoona701 40 years old and could still shoot anyone of your countries planes out of the sky. Brainwashed fucktard.
Afireman4u 2 months ago
@Afireman4u SU 35,37 superior to the F 15 and 16.You take 10 russians pilots (cleary trained better,handle more shit)and put them against 10 panzy American pilots in a F15 and ill guarantee you a kill ratio of 7-3 on the Russian side.Youre too stupid to know anything about the KRST radar systems on the Su 37.Just keep talking shit and American pilots can show their prowess on 3 world pilots.They have never shot down a Russian piloted plane and never will.Cheers American inbred .F 15 hahahaha pff
altoona701 2 months ago
@altoona701 *cough* korea *cough*
masterfistlord 1 month ago
@masterfistlord Americans had limited skirmishes with the russians in Korea ,all the migs that went down were piloted by the koreans and not the Russians,I suppose you also believe the 15-1 kill ratio on youre side, please.For how many planes the Russians had up there they certainly dominated the Americans but your generals and historians wont admit to that ha.Watch a documentary "sky battles in Korea" german made film and youll see the truth,or you can go watch the history channel pffffff.
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masterfistlord 1 month ago
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@altoona701 There were plenty of Russian Aces and some chinese + Nkorean. Even they got killed. These infos are backed independently. However the U.S. Airforce won't acknowledge this and played along, because an escalation of this kind could've lead to ww3. you might want to grab a few historybooks instead of a single tv documentation. Russian Aces in Mig 15s had a killratio of approximately 2:1 against F86s . However F86s had a killratio of over 10:1 against the regular NK AF
masterfistlord 1 month ago
@masterfistlord Exactly thats my point the Russian pilots dominated the Americans with a lot less planes.And ive read books about korea probably more than you and not just western books try russian ,German,chinese etc.
altoona701 1 month ago
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shut up idiot liers
NSaifJason 3 months ago
Its funny reading all the comments slating Chinese junk when the reality is your homes are full of it enabling you to funtion, without it you'd be screwed. Most of your home multimedia entertainment systems and appliances are imported, you're just consumers, China does all the production, thats why they're flourishing and our economies are down the shitter with obscene and irreversible national debt. They're laughing cus they produce shit for us and make quality products for themselves.
ChuckMamuck 3 months ago
@ChuckMamuck How about we just tax everything China imports, Least we can make money? Eh?
shadowhunter388 3 months ago
@ChuckMamuck You say that without realize that the US is STILL the worlds leader in manufacturing by a large margin. While China makes all of the cheap stuff we see everywhere, the US makes a lot of the bigger, high tech stuff that isn't found in your home. SO while China has master the art of mass producing bouncy balls, we have the technical expertise to make fighters, carriers, ICBM and what have you.
Elthenar 3 months ago
no originality.......always a copycat....
ambotgyod 3 months ago 2
lol you guys no that china doesn't care right the fact is still that china has a new jet in its arsenal
Gh0st175 3 months ago
Why not copy? It is much cheaper.
Myanleader 3 months ago
their J-15 picture in the beginning is actually a J-10.... Google images much?
f14fan1243 3 months ago
Lol what doesnt China copy?
kryptonian55 3 months ago
What else is new with china.They cant build one thing on there own without copying.The FC-1 based off the F-20 Tigershark.J-10,based off the gripen and F-16.There other planes are exact copies of russian fighter's,they also copied the F-22 can ruined it's perfect stealth design to make the Junk-20
1bearcatf8f 3 months ago 9
@1bearcatf8f
Imitation before invention... consider Japan post-war till now in business, tech and industry. F-22 was and is a big white elephant. Which is why it was cancelled years ago. Stealth only achieved in dry weather - else no better than the F-117. Another example of manufacturers misleading US government into lining their pockets with billions of dollars on tech that is unproven and completely overstated in its usefulness as an economically sustainable tool for today's aircraft.
Bhoy0 2 months ago
@1bearcatf8f "What else is new with china.They cant build one thing on there own without copying."
Blame it on the unfair western embargo my friend.
pakjai 2 months ago
@pakjai No just blame it on China's lack of effort
1bearcatf8f 2 months ago 5
@1bearcatf8f I agree with you there buddy.
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