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  • behind gov'rmt censorship lurks the desease known as the illuminati,police assassins and mlitary robots are only puppets use to control the peoples movements and awareness of the inpending new world order.what the illuminati fail to comprehend is that branches like the anonymous group continue to grow worldwide useing the internet and de-programming brainwashed americans to unite for thier very survival,i predict that the illuminati will collapse for power and greed-breed contempt.

  • not true

  • The "Land of the free" Bwaaaaha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, Free to do what there told when they,re told, The "Home of the brave" Bwwaaaaaaaha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, So brave that they sit back & do or say absoutly nothing while a bunch of criminally insane psychopaths destroy everything that was good about there Country & send there Children to kill & be killed in oil rich Countries so corrupt politicians can have more millions for there already fat bank accounts & the zionists get even more powerful,LMFAO.

  • This is what happens when sheeps are showed evidence by the "conspiracy theories nutts" why the government is trying so hard to cover their mess and many still aren't aware...

  • @1rebelblood umm why are you calling them nuts and yet saying their right?

  • @ImmortalTechHC If u don't understand "sarcasm" this day and age my brother OR sister, just keep drinking your tap water. Its been doing you  quite some good so far...

  • @ImmortalTechHC he is an idiot, it's like saying eating ice cream is bad for you but you should eat it because you should not believe everything i say lol.

  • the USA wants to censor the entire internet and only US approved free speech will be allowed .....stay tuned

  • It's impossible to erase the evidence. This is the internet, once it goes up, it's everywhere

  • Maybe the angels hey have you ever made friends with a ferril cat from the woods and fed it and soon you could pet it then it was your friend well maybe they r like that in a wierd kind of way

  • fuck u governmental hack

  • the police are pussys

  • pigs are scared of truth...

  • Hi.

  • Avoid hate speech? Freedom of speech playa and freedom of press

  • please do not submit to the government (police & others) requests to remove videos - we need this protection of our 1st amendment rights! the government (police & others) to STOP attacking citizens! the whole world is watching!!!

  • Then, a Mighty Angel picked up a boulder shaped like a huge Mill Stone, and threw it into the

    Atlantic Ocean,

    and cried mightily with a loud voice saying!!

    Just as I have thrown away this stone, the great city of Babylon will be thrown down with violence , and shall never be found again!!!

    The Book Of Revelation, Chapter 18 verse 21

  • @goscott4 One of the few times I agree with the bible! I love it when the Angels show their might. I swear if just one Angel showed up in todays world all evil would stop because then they know God is real and he has an army ready to lay a whooping down!

  • @CrimesonWitcher My channel is a UFO alien fallen angel demon channel. The war has already started, it's just a matter of getting informed.... REV 18

  • @goscott4 I feel the war started a few thousand years ago. One of their greatest victorys was the corruption of the bible. That has to be the reason why that book is so messed up. That or human greed.

  • @CrimesonWitcher Sorry for the delay, I can answer your mails on Tue morning..had a very busy day :-))

  • We out number the police.

  • FU ABUSIVE THUG COPPERS who think you can do whatever you want to people and use whatever force you want indiscriminately....and then try to hide it....by once again abusing your power to threaten google....FU you disgusting facsists

  • @PeterEdwardsColac Yeah, man, Human RIGHTS not HUMAN FIGHTS! Aw, dude, you gave those Aboriginal People Human Fights instead of Human RIGHTS again! Dude!!!!!

  • The department of homeland oppression at it again.

  • Feels like china

  • What a disappointment..

  • I think they were also asked to remove "Rosetta Stone is a scam"

  • I've noticed several YouTube videos of police brutality that friends have linked to on Facebook mysteriously have errors and wouldn't play when I clicked on them.

  • @stenar same here m8, and one a particular one, the number got changed in the title, it went from "700+ arrested" when I copied it, to a strange "400+ arrested" when I pasted the link on fb...wtf?

  • This guy doesn't seem to realize that Google declined the request- as evidenced by the fact that the video is still on YouTube.

  • @The3rdPlateau RT, I love you guys...but please make sure your guests are informed on these things. Google did NOT remove the video, the police ASKED for it to be removed and Google turned them down. The video is still up. This guy shouldn't be on television talking about this if he doesn't even realize that Google did the right thing (in this instance, anyway...)

  • It's strange how out of the clear blue sky that someone, not even from the US can relay something such as this when the Govt has been censoring "EVERYTHING" for at least 30 years, who do you think empowers google? Why do you think mainstream media co's such as abc news don't even allow comments on their YT vids? My grandmother was right in telling me that stupidity is a birthright now in the world...maybe it's just that RT and it's clones have run out of "correct" info and are drawing straws..

  • Google/YouTube are private media organizations that have the right to publish or not publish whatever it wants on its sites. The New York Times, CNN, BBC, and all other mainstream traditional media make decisions about which stories to cover. There is nothing to stop them from doing it. What's the difference if such editorial decisions are made by them or by YouTube? I want to see everything, all of the news, but if Google/YouTube doesn't want to show it to us, we'll just have to go elsewhere.

  • never trust the USA government!!!

  • watch the arrivals!

  • We need to drop some bombs on US to bring them some democracy.

  • @TheBaza1978 HAHA this is so IRONIC AND FUNNY

  • THEY WOULD TRY TO HIDE IT. FUCK THESE LEVAS. OCCUPY LIFE.

  • ONCE MEDIA COVERAGE COVERS OCCUPY WALL STREET PPL WILL UNDERSTAND ITS BIGGER THAN POLITICAL PARTIES, RACE OR MONEY. CAUSE ALL AROUND THE WORLD PPL WILL ASK IS AMERICA LIKE DIS IF SO ITS NOT FAR FROM A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. AND THATS WHY AMERICA IS THE MOST HYPOCRITCIAL COUNTRY THAT EVER REMAINED FREE PARTIALLY THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY AND KNOW THE CURTAIN FALLS AND IRAQIS BRITISH SPAIN ARE ALL SHAKING THEIR HEADS AT US

  • Police are not paid to be corrupt. Police are there to serve the public not themselves. They should be exposed for BREAKING THE LAW, they should pay the same penalty and be reminded that they are public servants and who are supposed to be autonomous to uphold the law and not dictate to corporations about what is or is not the law. Similarly police erasing video after incidents in police stations and jails not any different and that would be seen as corruption because it shows a crime.

  • this is russia today

    its propaganda

    they do much worse to their own people not just corrupt police but the whole goverment.

    the russians opposed intervention in libya because they are doing the same thing now many libyans hate them

  • @11JEchappers11 Your so full of US brainwashing shite. Your brain is controlled by fox,cnn and what ever shit you drown your brain with. What prpaganda have you grown up to? Many Libyans hate Russia. Where did you hear that. NATO(Nazi american terrorist organisation), have just killed 50,000 of them, bombed their cities and infra structure, killed the man that gave them, healthcare, made the desert green, free electricity and kept them safe from US imperialism. Back to your pen you dumb sheeple.

  • @MrMiseeire im not american

  • @MrMiseeire film of libyan rebals burning russian and chinese flags and there is a reason why they fought against gadaffi and many libyan rebels(who are now free men) supported nato air strikes.

  • @11JEchappers11 The secret services of NATO financed and armed the Libyan rebels, as they did in Syria.But thats nothing new, think of Iraq and Afghanistan. 9/11 was an inside job, so there could be war with at least 5-7 nations. They Wall St., federal reserve and the city of London control governments. They decide who to crush. Gadaffi will have an african gold dinar in payment for oil. The banks would loose out so the sent in the cavalry. With lies, like youve seen on BBC, sky and ITN. fooledU

  • @MrMiseeire if western countries where after oil they would have supported gaddafi. 9/11 was done by muslim extreameist who may have lived in america, but i dont think 9/11 alone is a good enough reason for war with a country. and if they did arm the rebals which i think they did (but after many negotiations where the rebals grew restless) it was a good thing they over threw a dictator who murdered many people and there free( but things could still go wrong)

  • @11JEchappers11 If muslims hit the 2 towers with planes and we all know that it was demolition explosives that brought them down, then how did building 7 collapse, not being hit by a plane?A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You gotta read more into world politics, my young friend, where you see it from other angles than what the sheeple media indoctrinates you with. Try other outlets on your computer than BBC,Sky and ITN. Drop into my channel and see things you wont see on your tv.

  • @MrMiseeire methane...

  • @realpqleur Its hard for me to know what your post to me, when all I get is "methane". It must annoy you as i does me. Anyway, continue having a nice weekend.

  • @MrMiseeire most have no idea of the words you speak, hell most don't even know where it is...

  • @MrMiseeire I speak of Libya young man, again children suffered, just for being children..

  • @realpqleur Did you really call me "young man"? Im 62 next month. The most of my life I have been a peace activist and I reckon on being so til i die. My heart bled for Libya, when with their smart lies NATO raped, pillaged and bombed it back to the stone age, the richest land in africa because the Rothschilds, and all those banksters felt threatened. Gadaffi built his country up and now it is colonised by western banks, corporates and evil zionazies. I hate what NATO terrorists do to our world.

  • @MrMiseeire

    lol shut up you stupid liberal tree hugging hippie. "fuck peace war is the outcome found to really be right"

  • @mikehatesgayassford What a brainbashed little boy you are. So you think war is cool. Sign up and head to Afghanistan and find out just how cool it is. Anyway USA is going bust fighting wars for Israel.

  • @MrMiseeire only brainwashed moron is you. and i am already signed up. im an army combat medic fool!

  • @mikehatesgayassford Hey man, I like your last sentence; "Im an army combat medic fool!". Did you miss the comma or is it a confession of being a fool? I hope you survive in a war zone and hope that you´ll soon wake up to reality.

  • @MrMiseeire yes i am sure i will. it was a grammatical mistake, we are not all perfect like you ;) Fuck the weak, they wont survive

  • @mikehatesgayassford I´d like to have said,"dont take life too serious" but Í didnt. Ok mike your going off, not to be cannon fodder, but a cannon fodder scraper upper. Thats all right with me dude, but at a certain point you will ask your self the question- " why do these young people have to die for a group of assholes that make money and dont give a shit about people dieing , so they can be even richer. Those apes dont give a monkeys F for you or your mates. So, occupy Wall St. and liberate U

  • @11JEchappers11 lol brainwashed much?

  • @Ironarm011 how am i brainwashed? its true and also russian modern history isnt exactly rosey is it

  • This isnt propaganda, it really happened. The US media brainwashed you to distrust the Russians. You talk about corruption, but the real corruption isnt within Russia, its within the US and the International banking cartel, the people who run the Fed. You are either misinformed or brainwashed, though probably a combination of both like the majority of the American people.

  • @Ironarm011

    Lol you never been to mexico then xD

  • @11JEchappers11 Those bankster gangers got NATO to bomb Libya back to the stone age, told lies about Gadaffi using Air force and murdered 50,000 civilians. Hey there died many Brits in afghanistan and Iraq and all for a bunch of lies.

    You are young, but remember that no matter how thin you make your pancake, there are always 2 sides. Remember to be critical and ask questions. Good luck kid.

  • @MrMiseeire many of he civies killed where proberly gadaffi supporters and nato used precision bombing. however many killed where proberly inocent its terrible but unavoidable, also would it be better to stand by and let gaddafi crush the uprising and murder thousands more. britain pulled out of iraq, afghanistan if we pull out the lost lives would be for nothing and they are making progress pulling out would allow taliban and so on to take control and kill people.

  • @11JEchappers11 The civies killed were Gadaffi supporters as was the majority of Libyans. He made the dessert bloom. Took back the country from the colonialists.Literacy went from under 20% to 86% under his rule. His health care was far superior to UK´s. He improved living conditions for Libyans. They had the highest living standards in Africa, even higher than countries like Saudi Arabia. But you listen to Nazi American Terrorist Organisation´s lies. Occupation is wrong and Brits are occupiers.

  • @11JEchappers11 Do you even know who are those rebels in Lybia that the west armed and gave power to? Do you know the first thing they did once Gaddafi was murdered has been to rise Al Qaida flag (research!!) Do you know Ghaddafi never ever airshot or mass killed its own people, do you know Lybian people had best living conditions in all african countries, Lybia had 140 tons gold reserve and zero debts? do you know the new puppets in charge of Lybia now want Sharia law? .......

  • So reality is a place that can be glitched, lets glitch up and wreck the system.

  • The world is turning into an unmanagable imbroglio because of the net, ive got a bad feeling about all this i mean whats next total collapse of society fighting a corrupt system that cant possibly be won against, filming our chimpish antics onto infinity for what? Peace thats why and its worth it, fighting against evil wherever it rears its putrescent stench, love conquers all.

  • That doesn't make the American people bad, but politically America is and always has been deeply corrupt.

  • The philosophies of Hitler and the Nazis had their start in America. Behind the polished bullshit America has deep fascist roots.

  • @leemichfb

    No, but when they tell me what the gov't is doing and how they're screwing up the system more and more each day, rather than a poor man stealing from the gas station on the other side of town, I'll be more prone to watching them.

  • more real news like this please !

  • freedom of speech was always fucked with....we're never going to full be able to express our needs

  • They're are trying to cover the shit up by removing the videos.

  • All cops need to do is wait. Until some idiots in hood start looting the shops and the command is given. Fire at Will, Fire at Will. Bang Bang Bang, Good kill, Good kill.

  • @briansuck those pathetic gangster couldnt shoot if their life depended on it. police are great shot so, boom boom you

  • @mikehatesgayassford You are pathetic and embarrassing (both yourself and by being loosely associated (Via comment) with RT)

  • @Bloodshot021

    Lmfao me??? yeah haha dude you are the one saying patetic low life scum can outshoot officers who are trained periodically, i bet you win at all the horse races too by betting on the fucking whipiest, skinny, horse there is right. so please do the world a favor and never reproduce so we don't have idiots running around, oh wait too late your parents already did,,,, oh well

  • @Bloodshot021 lmfao you are from Australia, anything you say is automatically invalid you fucking koala bear queer.

  • I do not care that the police see a video but they have no right to take it down!

  • There are videos to links of the police attacking occupyoakland in California: where police shot plastic bullets that are blocked. I was able to see them for about 24 hours. but no more! Evidence of plastic bullets shooting an elderly, fragile veteran in the face, very close to his eyes. Blocd all over his face. Since Oakland California police attacked peaceful protester on tuesday & wednesday - No One has taken responsibilty.

    The Mayor said the poilice did a good job

  • @yellowjade1

    Yes, but russian police and feds don't use plastics at all. They don't have shotguns, AK-74, etc. Couldn't switch even if they wanted. Last is unlikely - too much unburied bodies each spring. RT is a russian channel, so... keep on.

  • fuck the police REVOLT its time for war

  • The only solution left is americans and europeans follow the example of lybians that pick up rifles and machine guns and begin hunting down bankers all over the world. Brothers in arms join the liberation!

  • fuck google !!!

  • I live here and I don't know nathing

  • I've noticed videos of british police attacking british citizens being removed, I favourited a few of these videos and they were taken down very quickly, the governments dont want the people to see the police crimes and beatings.

  • I'm pretty sure everything THEY tell us about foreign countries is wrong. American government is lying to us.

  • Russia is more open then usa it makes me want to cry. how far we have fallen.

  • @takebackkean

    You're just gliding yet... Up there.

  • The cops that are working this are not old enough to remember the 60's, they need to be made to sit and watch and be trained on the way to handle this situation. the clip of the girls being fenced and pepper sprayed is disturbing! the police need to remember turnabout is fair play! Almost time for a beatdown, these are kids. the country is cooking and these actions by police are sealing the lid tighter..

  • The top 1% thought the bottom 99% too stupid to wake up from their 'American dream' which they would never realize. The corporate-sponsored US media initially tried to deny the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement coverage, but they have failed.

  • Find videos of police brutality and download them!

  • The Police think they are in China.

  • International bankers have friends in the international media.

    They're going to try to REDEFINE the protest

    They going to incite the public against JO SHMOE cop...this way the anger against their banker friends will be redirected onto the average working class shmoe....

  • you dont need a court order when youv'e got the patriot act, funny that ha

  • A country that you can fight for, but still get cross burned in your yard. A country that says that other countries hurt innocent people, but turn around and do the same. A country that people die over money that's not even equivalent to gold. A country that has enslave also killed many cause of their complexion, but yet so many are proud to be a American.

  • @IronGodSlayer well said. I agree with all you said.

  • @IronGodSlayer Every country on this planet has people that hurt other people. Get over it. America is still alot better than plenty of other places.

  • @IronGodSlayer America is a complicated but good place just like anywhere else in the world.

  • @CrimesonWitcher Yes, I understand that its just who I am inside as person will admit I lie and im a

    hypocrite. However just a second ago I was in a argument with another christian cause he says all Muslims want to kill christian which is not the case. Also that martin Luther king for instance fought for not just blacks but all people of all types to have rights to live in the same condition of whites.(that includes Hispanics, Asian, and ect.) but everyone infers it as only for blacks.

  • @IronGodSlayer the arrogant satanic name alone tells enough infoon evillness

  • @IronGodSlayer when you aint brave enough to get a up to date subscription pfft

  • @thoostorm4 What are you talking about?

  • @IronGodSlayer What are you talking about? All mainstream media is just plain rubbish, lies and propaganda. Wikileaks reckons 911 wasn't an inside job so that makes them cointelpro in my opinion and so no one can believe anyone and that is what the zionist/neocon/golbalist want. If you want to believe in something go to your gurus go to yourselves because that's the only place that you're going to find any real truth. Cops banning pictures is police corruption. Police are not paid to be corrupt!

  • @IronGodSlayer Well when you put it that way then sure I can understand. I wouldn't say most Muslims are that way. Just the ones forced to believe certain parts of the Quran being preached instead of the whole thing or hearing perverted by people they trust. They should understand that it was written in a different time and things change. Also Dr. King Helped his fellow Blacks but set an example in general so he really helped everyone. Some people can be told the right message in the wrong way.

  • @CrimesonWitcher Ultimately the killing, the enslavement,and of all the wars threw out history. Were all cause forms of governments that never succeeded, or never benefited people threw the ages ever. so why do people allow others to lead them.

  • @IronGodSlayer Well my answer to that is that most people need directions. If everyone went off in their own direction they tend to get lost very badly. Most of us need leaders but the real problem is finding the right leaders. A good leader will sometimes tell you something you don't want to hear but try to do what's best for you like saying don't drink and drive but others just don't care and want to enslave others. Finding the right leader is the key.

  • @CrimesonWitcher No, its cause everyone lust for power, and power is always been the biggest currency do you think Christianity was such a popular religious because of a massive conversion to Christ. The crusades the conquistador, and holy roman empire. They didn't do it for god they did it for power humans crave for power, the feeling of leading people them looking up too you is such a great sensation, wouldn't you agree?

  • @IronGodSlayer Yes I have to say that I do agree. Christ never said to build a church or worship statues in his honor. He just said to try and be good and respect God yet here we have a whole city called the Vatican claiming they speak for God and think they have the right to set the rules. Power can be bad cause it makes us forget what our limits are and what we should be allowed to do. My rule for power is just because you can doesn't mean you should. Power can be such a bad drug when abused.

  • @CrimesonWitcher Thank you, that's all I wanted to get across really im tired of people saying best country in the world. That America has freedom when most are rights women, blacks, and others had too fight for in the so called land of the free. Even now we cant protest without brutality, permits, and or so called liberties being violated.

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  • @CrimesonWitcher the right leader / the providential man. Why not Superman ? . Dude , what we need is institutions we can trust , free from lobbies and corpo . We re living in the 21st century and at least 50%of us in western countries are well educated . We need the end of oligarchies worldwide . Look at how US Presidents re selected to become pathetic Wizards of Oz

  • I wonder how Russia views us?

  • @IronGodSlayer .......pigs?

  • @REPODONE are you from Russia, or just russian

  • @IronGodSlayer an American speaking out of context :D

  • @REPODONE hahaahah, okay okay.

  • A website is not a democracy, there is no expectation of freedom of speech.

    Don't like it, go pay for your own damn website.

  • I know that RT is slightly anti-west, so if this was happening in Russia (Police brutality gone viral then asked to be taken down) what would this station say about it?

    Russian police are also pretty shocking, very harsh and many are racist (Alot like the US police).

  • This is why we need RON PAUL~! the gov. is the largest barrier and threat to our freedom.

  • Rather than trying to eliminate the evidence, those pigs should admit they did it for the lulz, and then apologize for the epic fail..

  • The US police are scum. I like the police in Britain, they arent heavy-handed. They provd this during the UK riots. But i do wish the police were harder on those scum rioters, the police should have used rubber bullets, tear gas, batton charges, water cannons etc the rioters deserved it.

  • why would you take it down? it shows the idiocy of our cops

  • police state

  • Fuck the government

  • we american citizens don't like our government, don't get that idea...

  • I would suggest that people who have software to take copies of video's to make local backups when you see vid's go up you suspect may be taken down again or otherwise censored.

    They can take them down but they can't stop you from posting them elsewhere! At least then you've protected it, if you feel that it is being wrongfully censored it's probably best to pass it on to a trusted member of the press, then they can find out if it is protecting someone or if it is just plain censorship.

  • Rise up, my friends, rise up and protest and organize and take the world back from corporate fascism.

  • What the police ought to be doing is policing their police force. Police are citizens too, but do not have the right to misuse and abuse people. Law is one thing, abuse of law is another. Police is not the military an ought not be treating the citizens of United States of American in the way they have! Demand Police Brutality be stopped, expose police abuse and mistreatment; tape, tape, tape and expose police brutality where ever it rears it's ugly head, imo. Police must respect the Citizens.

  • I am an American and I am the 99%! When they ask if its corporate intervention or government intervention I see no difference. When corporate America (the 1%) funds all branches of government one equals the other... There is no separation!

  • A conspiracy to conceal a crime is itself a crime.

  • @moneyjunkies  thank you for your worthless contribution to this discussion.

  • @moneyjunkies Ur name suits u! Darwin I think would argue that u should put 1 of these "loosers" as u say (btw it's losers dumb ass) up against 1 of these big money cheaters, throw them into nature & then c who comes out on top. I wonder if any of the CEOs would volunteer for that match up. I know a few of the 99% who would gladly step up. I should also add that these r not kids they r all walks of life, old, young, Lawyers, MDs, &even members of wall street. Not as superior as u think u r! fool

  • @thepuzzleandsolution Probably because most of the clips are edited to not show the fact that nothing hit him. I don't see why it's so crazy for the police to not like lies spread about them to incite riots.

  • @TheNdoki I don't understand how you can say nothing hit him - you can claim that the videos are edited to cut out warnings by police if you are worried about bias, but to deny he was hit... the NYT reported he has a fractured skull from projectile thrown or shot by police.

  • @digitalHistorian I can say it because people don't get their skulls broken open by nothing. If you watch the video after he goes down there is nothing anywhere nearby him. The police were shooting tear gas canisters, which release.... tear gas. If you watch the video there is no canister, there is no gas, hell there's not even a flash when he goes down. On the other hand there IS hard pavement that someone could easily crack their skull open on if they tripped while trying to run away. Logic.

  • It's funny how I can watch the England, Russian or other news and learn more about my country than I can on ANY U.S. news channel!!!

  • @cmcjoshua i watched major foriegn news channels like the bbc , rt , reuters back in india as i grew up ...i came to the us to pursue my higher studies.....and i was absolutely stunned when i saw us news channels.....

    the level of Ignorance among american news viewers is ASTOUNDING :/

  • @balls055

    I have always lived in the U.S. I noticed the changes shortly after the "war on terrorism" began. They were showing less and less of it and now nothing. The government doesn't want the Americans to know what they're not telling us because if we knew, the government would be thrown out!

  • @cmcjoshua the government inspires such a thing every second, they eagerly wait for the attempt...

  • @realpqleur

    Agreed!

  • @cmcjoshua You make a Great point. this type of injustice has thoroughly infected our country and we as Americans citizens need to do as much as we can to unite each other against the mass corruption and corporatocracy as we can. FREEDOM is the ultimate goal once again for our country. Let me correct myself. we need not be "against" the establishment but FOR a general establishment that represents american people. 'WE THE PEOPLE' ARE the most magnificent part of our country.

  • @ruebear199 I do agree. However, you must realize one thing. If you do stand up against the U.S. gov't.. just as displayed here.. the blame will be placed on you and you will be punished for your behavior. The problem is that the gov't spends all of their time passing bills they don't even read, which oppose the constitution. The only thing they consciously do is pass bills for the rich to be deregulated. The constitution was specifically designed to prevent this shit! and now look at it!