9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Part 3 (Flight 175)

[tuesmorninginsept]

There is a videotaped account of 9/11 NYC that is from one videographer, from one vantage point that is in real-time, and captures all but the first strike, an over two hour account.. with footage minutes before the North Tower was even struck. It was released after 9 years and is available on dvd. It is taped from one of the most iconic vanage points. It is the most inclusive account known to exist, and is positioning for a feature release for all this year: 'Tuesday Morning in September'.

[rammstein11004]

the sad thing is that the US has learned nothing and is still unprepared for these F&^%*&^ whenever then make their next strike. and all these bastards do 24 7 365 is figure out when and where and how many to hit next. and the US kisses their asses left and right and helps them by doing nothing.

[phucoff1]

yeah, you really sold that video to me there? what a shite video, loser, get a fuckin life.

[911NeverForget]

and i dont give a crap about your insults.

i love how you guys constantly say how everything's shitty and never explain why. on top of that, when it comes to "getting a life" quite a few of you around here are usually hypocritical.

[blueraiderfn]

Uh yeah...jumbo jets with "missle pods" attached taking off without being noticed by anyone...riiiiigggghhhht. Idiots.

[femr2]

American Airlines ?

Nope.

United Airlines UAL175 is the aircraft the Official Fairytale states crashed into WTC 2.

watch?v=r3PxBF_qmNE

Flight 175 - N175F or UAL 175 ?

watch?v=6UuH6D4pob8

UAL175 did NOT crash into WTC 2

watch?v=op7iCrJ5ns8

Flight 175 Pod Facade Damage

[911NeverForget]

this vid had been posted a year ago so i was a little off on that. i know its UA and not AA.

[femr2]

No worries. Any comment on the video links I included ?

[911NeverForget]

1st vid: goddamn "video is unavailable" error.

2nd vid: i have abolsutely no clue what point you're trying to make there.

3rd vid: i highly doubt thats damage from that. its just a bit too blurry to tell. not to mention that if you'd look around in my vid collection you'd discover the identification behind the "pod".

[femr2]

1st vid: watch?v=r3PxBF_qmNE

Works fine. MSNBC live clip shows TWO aircraft with 175 ID's. UAL175 is miles NE of WTC at 31000ft, N175F is at WTC location at 700ft.

The video question is: What Flight 175 do you think crashed into WTC 2 ?

2nd vid watch?v=6UuH6D4pob8

Similar point. UAL 175 position on FAA supplied radar data 50km NE of WTC.

Didn't crash into WTC 2.

3rd vid - watch?v=op7iCrJ5ns8

We have a difference of opinion.

[911NeverForget]

i know it works fine. occasionally i get vids that dont behave for me only.

that question makes no sense.

also keep in mind that a lot of stuff on 9/11 plus the 1-2 weeks that followed was filled with chaos. there were many wrong reports, wrong facts, and rumors.

and yes, we do. however unlike the many no-planers i come across you're not those that like to spew insults and act immature. you actually make points in a mature fashion. i commend you for that.

[femr2]

"that question makes no sense."

Live broadcast at 10:28am on 9/11 by MSNBC shows TWO aircraft with a '175' ID.

UAL175 is in the correct location at the correct height, UAL175 is not.

Which 'Flight 175' do you think crashed into WTC 2 ?

watch?v=r3PxBF_qmNE

[femr2]

sorry, typo...

N175F is in the correct location at the correct height, UAL175 is not.

[911NeverForget]

great, now the same error that plagued the 3rd vid is doing the same to that vid. sigh.

[mafaldacrumbwitty]

I lost my husband in the South Tower, and to this day I have nightmares about the last thing he saw that day. Thank you for making sense of the incomprehensible.

[911NeverForget]

no problem. :)

[Mrquestionreality]

@mafaldacrumbwitty What name and company he worked for?

[blueshark69]

The twoofer mindset in a nutshell: If there's no video, it never happened; if there is video, it was faked.

It's like arguing with a ten-year-old on crack.

[ConspiracyNut]

hey blueshark, don't go making fun of us trutters.  i just fiished high school at the age of 30, i still live with my mom. i kno the NWO has been holding me back. it kept me from getinng a job and getting a girlfriend. So that proves 9/111 was an inside job, what more do you need? DOWNT WIT THE NWO!!!!

[insanejoker7]

Conspiracy bullshit Conspiracy bullshit...the only reason people are beliving this is because the people were looking for ANYBODY who can give them an explanitions..no matter what the explantion said

[Obelisk2290]

flight 175 was cloked at 590 MPH when it hit the south tower according to the flight data recorder

[911NeverForget]

you would be correct, but whats your point?

[Obelisk2290]

just to be a little more accurate. A 757 at 590 MPH has more kinetic energy than one at just 400+ Its late and too tired from writing my latest book to get my conversion tables

[PaidToDebunk911]

"just study the accoustic segments where both news and Fire Police" blah blah blah (yawn) your are so boring with your petty argument. Don't you know there is no way to win against me? I am superior in the mind. You damn crazy 911TRUTHER!

[Deke101]

Just ANOTHER truther clone SPAM acount...

[cycimian]

blah blah blah shows your age, Your lack of knowlege, And the simple fact im in old man who can not only kick your ass in real time man to man, But infront of forum debate with to the point that would shame your mama for letting your brother do her without the glove.

[cycimian]

Just study the acoustic segments where both news and Fire Police respondace described the multiple reports from what can only be described as multiple secondarys, Or are you hearing impaired.

[911NeverForget]

"Just study the acoustic segments where both news and Fire Police respondace described the multiple reports from what can only be described as multiple secondarys"

so you hear an explosion. that doesnt always equal a bomb.

"Or are you hearing impaired."

no.

[keflar5]

forgive them, i know its hard but these are the deluded idiots we have to talk to and convince, peace

[iKnowMattKiefer]

the reason a "light" was at the front of the airplane, is b/c the very tip of the plane hit the tower. if u look at it from other angles, u can clearly tell that the very front of the plane is missing

[DAL3280]

It was United Airlines, not Amercian 175...... :(

[ArmchairRevolution]

De-bunked!

[911NeverForget]

that was an error of mine....its not the first error i get in a vid. :(

[Dynamicdj]

that is why we will NEVER see them. it only takes a day to analize a few videos. its not like they were looking for clues isit? no.

[911NeverForget]

"it only takes a day to analize a few videos."

again, not all videos.

"its not like they were looking for clues isit? no."

what do you think you look for in videos and at crime scenes? clues! my god, even a 6 year old knows that.

[Dynamicdj]

not all videos maybe... a plane crashing into the pentagon? yes. we need to see it. we need proof. we deseve the truth. do we not?

and where the fuck would the "CLUES" be on a plane crashing into a building video? its a fucking crash. all there is. what do u need clues for? idiot

[911NeverForget]

"and where the fuck would the 'CLUES' be on a plane crashing into a building video?"

the figure moving across the screen, the fireball, etc.

"what do u need clues for? idiot"

i think YOU'RE the idiot if you dont even know what clues are for. they're for solving the case!

[Dynamicdj]

FAKE FAKE FAKE terrible effort there. tv fakery.. and this clip is new. why? FAKE

[911NeverForget]

"FAKE FAKE FAKE terrible effort there. tv fakery.. and this clip is new. why? FAKE"

come back when you find proof.

[Dynamicdj]

my proof is this...it defies logic. no plane could penatrate a steel building without loosing its wings. and tv fakery was used. my proof....sep clues. none of the vids add up 2 eachother. why? faked. theres my proof. now you debunk that.

[911NeverForget]

"no plane could penatrate a steel building without loosing its wings."

it DID lose its wings.

your proof is a damn documentary program. at least we have pictures and websites to prove OUR claims...

[Dynamicdj]

IT DID LOOSE ITS WINGS? just now you said the went throught the tower and vaporized? ive seen all the vids. and not one shows the plane looseing its wings. it defies logic. its impossible. and you are running out of fake answers. go to bed

[911NeverForget]

"IT DID LOOSE ITS WINGS? just now you said the went throught the tower and vaporized?"

the planes lost the wings, but they also went through the tower and vaporized.

"ive seen all the vids. and not one shows the plane looseing its wings."

thats because you cant SEE them lose it. it happened in the buildings.

"you are running out of fake answers. go to bed"

i find you to be the one running out of answers.

[Dynamicdj]

it happend in the buildings? but how the fuck can them feeble wings destroy steel? its not possible you clown/shill

[911NeverForget]

"but how the fuck can them feeble wings destroy steel?"

its going at 500 MPH, not 10 MPH.

"its not possible you clown/shill"

keep calling me names. it doesnt phase me. it just shows me how immature you are.

[Dynamicdj]

it dont matter...they would have fallen off. by the way. where did you get this vid from? its so fake. the plane dissapears.. where it hits is wrong. and the impact sound is deffo added. as its to soon.and it just looks so fake. where ue get it from? did u make it? coz its awfull

[911NeverForget]

"by the way. where did you get this vid from? its so fake"

i made it. its NOT fake. you still havent proved that.

"the plane dissapears.. where it hits is wrong."

no it doesnt. it just entered the building. funny, since EVERY person saw that, and thats what every video shows. its just a different angle.

"and the impact sound is deffo added"

you think all video is silent?

"did u make it? coz its awfull"

it was done months ago. i wasnt as good with videos then compared to now.

[Dynamicdj]

ur saying you made it here pal. wtf you on about. you are pissing me off more than my x missus does. the sound was added..the clip is the fakest vid ive ever seen. you also admit to making it. and i have proved its fake to you..sep clues..tv fakery..thats the proof..you prove sep clues as fake then...yeh?

NO

[911NeverForget]

"the sound was added..the clip is the fakest vid ive ever seen."

you still havent proved that.

"have proved its fake to you..sep clues..tv fakery..thats the proof..you prove sep clues as fake then...yeh?"

you are using 2 damn documentaries as proof. you need A LOT more proof than that.

where did i say that i debunked those programs?

[Dynamicdj]

you are pathetic mate. how the fuck can you say sep clues isnt proof? its fucking solid you clown. how come no fucker has tried to debunk it then? loosechange all of them have had pricks like you trying to debunk them. but not this time..so there is my proof. you debunk it. you cant. loser

[911NeverForget]

"you are pathetic mate"

the more you use insults, the more comment room you couldve use to prove your claims more.

"how the fuck can you say sep clues isnt proof?"

i never said that it ISNT proof. i said that you need MORE proof than that.

"its fucking solid you clown."

so? thats YOUR opinion, and i have mine, that opinion is that i disagree with it. dont force me to change it.

[911NeverForget]

(hit the wrong button)

"you debunk it. you cant. loser"

assuming things is worse than guessing things. i could debunk it if i could, but ive said it many times as to why im not GOING to. to me, you dont get it.

[Dynamicdj]

but isnt that your job? as a shill you protect the true terrorists. yeah? so its your job to debunk it. and since you think you can..i think its your job, fucked you again chap. dont bother

[911NeverForget]

"as a shill you protect the true terrorists"

you havent proved a thing that im a shill.

"its your job to debunk it."

debunkers debunk mainly the theories. debunking a TV program...?

"i think its your job, fucked you again chap. dont bother"

you have debunked me at all.

[911NeverForget]

meant "havent debunked me."

[Dynamicdj]

i have proved ur a shill. you protect the truth. what you say is impossible. nothing that happend could happen.its all fake. 4 planes hijacked? ha ha. 3 hit their target? very unlikely. tv fakery has been proven pal. you debunk it, as its ur job.

[911NeverForget]

"...proved ur a shill. you protect the truth." you havent proved that AT ALL. you just say im one. thats not proving it. i dont protect it. i just debunk the theories.

"...hijacked? ha ha. 3 hit their target? very unlikely. tv fakery has been proven pal." constantly saying that they did doesnt change anything. again, it hasnt been proved. in your head, they did. however, to most of America, they didnt.

"...as its ur job" i HAVE been debunking everything except the docs. you dont GET IT.

[Dynamicdj]

you are so full of shit. you have not debunked one single thing. anyone who reads over our disscusion will also see this. and most of america? prove this to us. you cant possibly know such a fact. and my proof to you is a loads of vids..loosechange proving stuff and sep clues. these two films are taken very serously. and the reason is because they add up. unlike ur story. fucked you again

[911NeverForget]

"you are so full of shit. you have not debunked one single thing."

ive debunked a lot of stuff. you havent.

"my proof to you is a loads of vids..loosechange proving stuff and sep clues. these two films are taken very serously. and the reason is because they add up."

they're only taken seriously by CTists. ill say this one last time: 2 PROGRAMS ISNT ENOUGH PROOF!

"fucked you again"

its called debunking stupid.

[Dynamicdj]

ive debunked a lot of stuff. you havent. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha nice 1 pal. you have not debunked one single thing. you just adress the oficial story. and that has been tore appart by numerous of people. and its not 2 fucking progrmas,. theres loads you stupid fool

[911NeverForget]

"...a lot of stuff..." thats big lie. you havent proved worth of shit compared to me.

"you have not debunked one..." i dont always do it...better than you calling me "dumb fuck," "shill," "fool," and "you havent debunked a thing. i have," and "ive given you proof."

"...tore apart by numerous of people." proof?

"...2 programs, theres loads" quit playing dumb with me. you KNOW that i meant what you've proven.

"you stupid fool" the only stupid fool is you. period.

[Dynamicdj]

you are so full of shit its not even funny. any one who reads the debate will see who is full of shit. YOU. so go to bed.

[911NeverForget]

"you are so full of shit its not even funny."

and your so immature that its funny.

"any one who reads the debate will see who is full of shit. YOU."

nope. they will find YOU to be that person. im not the one shouting attacks at someone who disagrees with them.

"so go to bed."

you cant tell me where to go on MY videos.

[Dynamicdj]

its not about you dissagrien with me. its about you adressing impossible facts to me. you obv are a shill because what you claim does not add up. it defies what we are today. and that word is... IN CONTROLL

[911NeverForget]

YT's comments again. just saying that any accusements need to be switched around to you. your reason for me being a shill shows how idiotic you are. that means that i can call you a shill because your facts are screwed up.

[Dynamicdj]

yeah. im a shill. im protecting the government. yeah. that is correct. im fighting for the truth. so how on this earth can that mean im a shill? comon sense debunks the officail story. theres no need for any awesome films like loosechange. you just need to think. it was 2001. the 21st century. we are in controll. we would not let any planes get hijacked and hit a target. over here in the uk we intercept russian planes all the time. straight away 2.

[911NeverForget]

"yeah. im a shill. im protecting the government. yeah. that is correct. im fighting for the truth. so how on this earth can that mean im a shill?"

i was mocking your claim.

"we would not let any planes get hijacked and hit a target."

news to you: we're not perfect.

[Dynamicdj]

ok then..well this is my last post now. see you in hell punk.

[911NeverForget]

"this is my last post now. see you in hell punk."

proof that you have no more arguments. you ran because you were proven wrong. you can attack me all you want. its just proof that your being an ass. face it, you've been debunked.

[Horjan]

I have read this debate, and my conclusion is you are full of shit, this was 1 year ago, hope you are not full of shit today. The c-t is so polluted with wrong claims, misleading quotes, contradictions, anger, paranoia, lies etc. Get a life..

[911NeverForget]

are you talking about me, or who im assuming, Dynamicdj

[Horjan]

No, I am not talking about you, I support your work.

[Horjan]

And yes, I was refering to dynamicdj's ridiculous way of debating this ridiculous topic.

[911NeverForget]

k, just making sure

[Dynamicdj]

im not forcing you to do anything. and why do we need more proof than sep clues? like i said it's solid. we dont need more,. there is more tho. a few vids by bsregistration, ozzybinoswald2, genghis... they all have vids.. showing how the famous CNN "live" clip was fake. and several others. what we saw was just film. only the real people of new york saww what happend. and leaving me less room too prove my claims? ha ha thats funny. i still had plenty of room after my insults you fuck

[911NeverForget]

"im not forcing you to do anything."

changing my opinion, actually.

"like i said it's solid. we dont need more."

yes, but do we call any documentary solid enough to not grab anymore proof. thats the smart thing to do.

"ha ha thats funny. i still had plenty of room after my insults you fuck"

not really. YOU may think that, but not me. until you stop insulting me, then you still will be classified as immature.

[Dynamicdj]

im not changing ur opinion..i just like to hear what uve got to say. the funniest tho was yesterday. the fbi still are investigateing the pentagon vids. ha ha 6years on. like fuck you dumbo. and i dont care if you think im imuture. at least im not a LIAR

[911NeverForget]

"im not changing ur opinion..i just like to hear what uve got to say."

funny, since you told me to leave you alone yesterday.

"the fbi still are investigateing the pentagon vids. ha ha 6years on."

i didnt say they ABSOLUTELY were. i just said i THINK they are.

"like fuck you dumbo. and i dont care if you think im imuture. at least im not a LIAR"

i find you to be the liar. get over it.

[Dynamicdj]

you think they are? why do you think this? dont you find it odd? silly little boy,. and im not a liar..i want 9.11 to be re-opend. do you? you cant possibly belive everything in the commision report? surely not. i hate you people anyways. thousands died remember... or are really just that dumb?

[911NeverForget]

"you think they are? why do you think this?"

the FBI usually looks a videos to help them in their investigation. this "theory" fits since some investigations can take years. (BTK killer is an example.)

"you cant possibly belive everything in the commision report?"

how can i believe everything? not everything is covered. (WTC7.)

"i hate you people anyways" like i said in the other video, i dont care. you can say it as much as you want since i know how much of an ass you're coming off as.

[Dynamicdj]

well you just answered my question. finally. the commission report is bull shit. like you said..they left out building 7,. and it dont take 6 years to look at a fucking planes fly into the pentagon. the fbi released crap vids to try and shut us up. but they didnt. the fact is that its scientifically impossible that a plane hit there. planes dont dissapear but still leave dead bodies. and them videos all show a missile.

[911NeverForget]

"...just answered my question. finally. the C.R is bull shit." you REALLY know how to jump to conclusions. i said that they didnt cover everything, like WTC7. that doesnt mean that i think its BS.

"...its scientifically impossible that a plane hit there." you mean that planes cant hit anything? are you SERIOUS?

"...dissapear but still leave dead bodies." F175 left an engine behind. F93 left TONS of debris behind.

"the videos all show a missile." the videos dont show nothing but planes.

[Dynamicdj]

." you mean that planes cant hit anything? are you SERIOUS? wtf? did i say that? no. the hole is to small...planes dont dissapear.. and the heat wasnt that much as there were books near by and the impact wasnt that much beacause there were still windows intact. and since theres no proof whatsover that a plane hit its not possible. theres more proof that a plane didnt hit than a plane did hit. so eat my shit loser

[911NeverForget]

"wtf? did i say that?" no, but you implied that you did.

"heat wasnt that much as there were books near by and the impact wasnt that much beacause there were still windows intact." those windows werent effected by the impact. heat doesnt blow them up. pressure does. the books dont mean anything. fires could easily set the books on fire.

"...more proof that a plane didnt hit than a plane did hit. so eat my shit loser" i find proof to be websites and pictures, so there. the only loser is you.

[Dynamicdj]

websites and pictures? oh my god. theres more proof that it didnt happen than it did. so why do you fuckin belive such nonsense? its ludicrous mun. you are whacked. show me pictures of this huge plane in this tiny hole then

[911NeverForget]

"theres more proof that it didnt happen than it did." i gave you examples. not proof that supports your claim.

"why do you fuckin belive such nonsense?" that question should be asked by me.

"you are whacked. show me pictures of this huge plane in this tiny hole then"(more insults that couldve been more proof.) tons of pictures of plane debris and human remains exist:

debunk911myths(DOT)org/topics/­index(DOT)php?title=Pentagon_d­ebris

debunk911myths(DOT)org/topics/­index(DOT)php?title=Pentagon

[Dynamicdj]

oh cmon. them parts were planted. and they dont even belong to a boeing anyways. the engine was way to small. and the wheels. whats ur view on that then?

[911NeverForget]

"oh cmon. them parts were planted. and they dont even belong to a boeing anyways. the engine was way to small. and the wheels. whats ur view on that then?"

that you make things up. they DO belong to a boeing. some pieces have blue stripes on them. F77 was an AA plane, which have blue stripes. you can see parts of a C and N, which are in the words American or Airlines. the engine had broken into pieces. not everything is actually the entire thing. you really know how to deny things too.

[Dynamicdj]

im not fucking lieing,. look it up punk. the engine is tiny. and so is the wheel that was found. im not lieing at all. im saying what ive seen. look it up you dick

[911NeverForget]

"im not fucking lieing,. look it up punk"how can i look up your opinion?

"the engine is tiny. and so is the wheel that was found."

again, the engine was broken into pieces. i havent seen any pictures of a wheel.

"look it up you dick"

you know what? YOU look it up, then YOU present it to me. thats what YOU do to prove yourself.

[Dynamicdj]

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN A PIC OF THE WHEEL? then why the fuck are you arguein with me? you obv have no idea whats going on. you disgust me

[911NeverForget]

"YOU HAVE NOT SEEN A PIC OF THE WHEEL?"

nope. i havent seen one.

"then why the fuck are you arguein with me?"

you're the one who started it. the wheel isnt the thing we're arguing about.

"you obv have no idea whats going on."

that title belongs to you.

"you disgust me"

more pathetic attempts of attacks that expose your paranoid behavior and rudeness.

[Dynamicdj]

LOL i love the way you copy what i say and then have a crap answer. at the end of the day... ur story dont add up. its impossible. no planes were used. and my proof is sep clues. all the proof we need. it shows how the vids dont add up to eachother..it shows how we were tricked and shows how bad the media really are. you belong in hell with these slimey fucks. like i said...debunk sep clues. then my friend..you will have an arguement worth debateing over. idiot

[911NeverForget]

"...crap answer." i love the way you like to make things up.

"...proof we need." guess what? you obviously dont know how to prove things. a few TV programs are not enough proof, and if your brain clicked you'd see that.

"...slimey fucks" more attacks that shouldve been proof. you're hopeless.

"...debating over." ask me politely, then i would. DEMANDING me like that wont make me move.

"...debating over. idiot" arguments? you've made NONE of those. that means you're the idiot, not me.

[xaninha123]

WTC i mean, same shit

[xaninha123]

im curious who ever told you that missiles struck the pentagon?

and why the flying fuck do you think thats a top ISSUE of the people?

you can also "debunk" that santa claus doesnt exist. noone will argue with you there.

Popular Mechanics, REALLY "DEBUNKED"

/watch?v=XLx5GATh_z0&mode=rela­ted&search=

[911NeverForget]

what do you think? i never said that its a top issue.

you clearly made that up.

[911CommissionCoverup]

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[911NeverForget]

ill say the same to you:

just because i disagree with you, doesnt mean that im a shill.

[LiarExposer]

Terrorists can kill a few people (~3,000 on 9/11 compared to the 300,000+ deaths every single year that we complacently accept from smoking has to be fairly considered a 'few') but they can never take away our rights or destroy our Constitution. Only the right-wing goose-stepping scum of this country can do that, and THEY are our real enemies.