New narCONon survey finds a 'success rate' of 14% which is larger than most other surveys

[YouStoleMyShoe]

LOL dude you're just not getting it... You really don't know what's up... Ignorance must be bliss.

[Desertphile]

@YouStoleMyShoe ; The crime syndicate's fake "drug rehab" narCONon does =WORSE= than no drug interdiction at all. That means the Scientoology mob pretends people from getting off drugs.

[YouStoleMyShoe]

Can you face the fact that you really know what your talking about? How is it pretending? I went there, completed the program and I am better than I have ever been in my life. Living proof of what your saying is bullshit. Seriously dude get a fucking life... Drop your ego and find a cause that is positive. Stop replying by the way, I'm not reading your shit anymore, your possessed by negativity and it's pathetic. Be yourself, you're enslaved by your mind... just let go and you'll find peace.

[Desertphile]

@YouStoleMyShoe ; "Can you face the fact that you really know what your talking about?"

So you admit I know what I'm talking about. LOL! You are now in the lower condition of treason. Report to ethics immediately!

[YouStoleMyShoe]

Dude, get your shit together... You are ego driven and your cause is lost. I hate to be mean but grow up, you look like you just crawled out of the gutter and now you want to go against a group that is in fact helping people. Just because you failed to complete the program and get your life on track doesn't mean the program is full of shit, it means your full of shit. If I were you I'd call them right now and get checked into detox.

[Desertphile]

@YouStoleMyShoe ; If I understand your odd comment, you need "detoxed." You can look in your telephone book under "rehab" for that. But as I noted in this and other videos, stay away from the Scientology crime syndicate's fraud narCONon: it kills people.

[YouStoleMyShoe]

@Desertphile You're completely ignorant and insane and I'll leave it at that. Try doing something constructive with the rest of your life.

[Desertphile]

@YouStoleMyShoe ; Waning people about the danger of the Scientology crime syndicate is doing something constructive. You can seek help: lots of professionals know how to help you recover from Scientology. I'll give you a few contacts if you wish. You don't have to live enslaved.

[jfarris4417]

What would the success rate at any drug rehab center be? Or any prisoner rehabilitation program?

You are a jag off desert pedophile. Any right minded human could listen to you and see that you are fucking nuts. Channel your energy towards something positive, and stop fighting programs that help people!

[Desertphile]

Flunk! Unable to evaluate data! Do over: you are now in session. SPOT A SPOT.

By the way, the EP for OT8 is "Now that I have learned who I am not, I am ready to learn who I am." I just saved you US$380,000. You're welcome.

[jfarris4417]

Scientologist are mostly nice people from my experience. If you don't like scientology then you are more than free to not do it. Why hate on it?

[Desertphile]

You asked why I hate organized crime. If you don't know, that makes you mentally ill. The better question is why so many customers and salespeople of the crime syndicate DON'T hate organized crime.

[jfarris4417]

There is nothing about Scientology that has anything to do with organized crime. Not anymore than any other religion. There have been hundreds of cases in various other religions of fraud, pedophelia, theft or other crimes, that doesn't mean that the whole religion is to blame. It just means there are some bad apples, that is true whenever you get a lot of people together, there is always going to be a few bad folks. You should stop using broad generalizations, maybe you are just antisocial?

[Desertphile]

Scientology is organized crime, silly. Ask the FBI: they will send you their 3,000+ page report on the Scientology crime syndicate for free in PDF format on laser disk. The Scientology crime syndicate has murdered, robbed, kidnapped, enslaved, and burgled in dozens of countries: a dozen of Hubbard's capos were sent to federal prison, and Hubbard fled the USA to escape justice.

Learn the bloody fuck about what you pretend to spew "facts" about, nut.

[jfarris4417]

If it were known that Scientology was organized crime it would not exist, the FBI would be shutting them down. Where could I find this 3,000 page report online?

You seem really irritated about scientology, what is that about? What happened to you that made you so anti? What is going on with you?

[Desertphile]

Oh, so you believe organized crime does not exist. Good bloody gods.

Write to the FBI, nut. It's free. Learn all about the Hubbard Crime Family.

[jfarris4417]

You're fucking crazy.

[Desertphile]

Translation: you were unable to spot any error in my video, and that frustrated you to such an extent that the best you could do in reply was to try an insult. How very sad your worthless life must be.

[Phranswa]

@jfarris4417 Valid question farris. By the emotional tone of Desertphile, we know he suffered pain at some time. Hopefully he can get the help needed. I know of a great program to do that...called 'Narconon" ;)

[julzbra1]

scientology sux

[johnrobertsvideo]

if your a scientologist, your  a fucken gay looser, nutcase....peace of shit

[hartman5555]

Paris - The Church of Scientology, will be tried in Paris on charges of organized fraud. If found guilty, the church could be declared illegal and disbanded. The trial is scheduled to begin on May 25.

[jerrylewis333]

Heil XENU !

[Xorinite]

I wonder did they try this against a placebo?

Because I am pretty sure it will reveal no difference.

[RyuDarragh]

Wait, wait, wait... 11% for no program, 14% for NARCONON? That's a success rate of an additional 3% over no program... now, if you look at the ratio, NARCONON did 22% better then doing nothing :P A sliver more than a hair can still be an enormous difference.. a meaningless difference, to be sure. It's *easy* to lie and con with statistics and humans, even government officials (or, perhaps, especially) are bad at seeing this kind of con.

[Desertphile]

"That's a success rate of an additional 3% over no program."

Very true! :-) And for a mere $1.5 million dollars. What a deal! The University's report concluded that there is no statistical significance in using narCONon and not using narCONon, which of course folks who have watched narCONon for decades already knew.

[mre4nygma]

Don't you just love independant studies? (Scientology doesn't!)

[Desertphile]

"Don't you just love independant studies? (Scientology doesn't!)"

I fear for the health and well-being of the doctor who delivered the report to the state of New Mexico and gave testimony about the report in front of Scientologists in the audience. He is now an enemy of Scientology and will be "fair gamed."

[ruzz3ii]

You are going to get a poisonous snake in your mailbox at this rate.

[Desertphile]

"You are going to get a poisonous snake in your mailbox at this rate."

Way cool! I love poisonous snakes! Only not when I'm in the outhouse trying to decrap.....

[Weaseldog2001]

Their 14% rate is probably so high because it uses a self selected set of prisoners who already want to succeed.

[Paxmax]

just when will the public/gov LEARN ?!!?!?

-"no, narCONon is a scam, sir"

-"But, look at their pamphlet: they have up to 90% success rate!"

-"That's because it's scam, sir..."

-"ah, looks good to me, $1.3M motion passed!"

[Desertphile]

"-'ah, looks good to me, $1.3M motion passed!'"

LOL! Unfortunately I fear you are right. Politicians want to at least appear to be anti-drug abuse and look like they are doing something about the problem of drug addiction... even when what they do does not work.

[kurtilein3]

what? in the united states, scientology gets tax dollars?

maybe i already heared about it 10 times and my mind just instantly rejected it each time. i will need to research this and hammer it into my brain if necessary.

by the way: dont they have a program called criminon? i got the impression that narconon is focused on abusing drug addicts, and criminon is focused on abusing the (comparatively huge) prison population of the united states.

[Desertphile]

Howdy! Criminon is narCONon, only it is narCONon in prisons: it is the exact same thing. Since something like 37% of people in USA prisons are there for drug-related crimes, it stands to reason that getting drug addicts off drugs will decrease the number of people returning to prison. Of course this appears to never actually happen, using any program.

[FreedomToResearch]

$cientology, this is pathetic that you have to lie and be deceptive about everything. I'm really enjoying watching this cult being exposed

[kurtilein3]

freedomtoresearch: why not contribute?

here in munich, there still are protests every single month. im sure that if you would use google, you would find date and location of the next protest somewhere in reach for you, and then you could make a cross in your calendar and show up there. maybe im trying to kick in open doors here and you have already been protesting ;)

and then there is stuff that you can do even if you live in the desert, like desertphile, use the internet to inform people ^^

[Desertphile]

"here in munich, there still are protests every single month."

I saw the video of the Hamburg protest. It was AWESOME! If I were one to shed tears at the sight of people coming together to oppose evil, I would have cried.

[jetmanisme]

Yeah! 14% success! Celebrate good times; come on!

[isegoria1]

narCONnon is complete bullshit. Their claims to success are no better than XA's claims to success which are no better than 5% with or without. Both of these groups are chock a block full of special pleading and other bullshit that is little better than the creationist arguments. ??? Squeeze 'em real hard and that is what comes out.

[cartier117]

hahahahaha

[mobiltec]

If I only had a 14% success rate in my business I would have died of starvation a long time ago...

[Desertphile]

"If I only had a 14% success rate in my business I would have died of starvation a long time ago..."

Well hell, I managed to fence out 8 of 9 heifers this week while repairing the south fence. That's a success rate of 89%!

[BKF666]

Anyone actually aware of what Narconon does and what they claim they can do saw this one coming due to the fact no studies backed up any of Narconon claims. Narconon needs a full investigation and Scientology needs to be sued allong side Narconon when the truth is revealed. This is one claim shot down from Narconon more to come.

Scilos will see this as a success even though it is a fail. Remember they can alter realities... Cough Cough lie lie lie lie lie. All Scilons can do is LIE.

[Desertphile]

"... due to the fact no studies backed up any of Narconon claims."

I have spent YEARS trying to get Scientology to send actually data to me: I even offered to pay $100 for it. They refused.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

Great to see you with a new video on Scientology at last DesertPhile. I've been avidly watching your takedowns of the "free energy" loons for the past few weeks too. Nice!

[Desertphile]

"Great to see you with a new video on Scientology at last DesertPhile."

Thank you; the next video I make will also be about narCONon, and it will be a screamer. The New Mexico "Second Chance" scam is much worse than I had thought just a week ago.

[matricide888]

good work

[AnonBane]

I am hoping to get my hands on those documents!

[DaveJonesBSNews]

So at best, it's almost worthless, at worst it's actually a hinderance to rehabilitation. Just what I've come to expect from scientology, flash, but worse than nothing.

I would love to see the reasons stated for not completing the course:

"I was ****ing scary!" prehaps.

[Desertphile]

"So at best, it's almost worthless, at worst it's actually a hinderance to rehabilitation."

However, it sent $1.5 million to Scientology, which means it was a HUGE success.

[dechha1981]

I've seen videos of Scilons actually pushing their face into a guy's camera and claiming HE'S the one pushing his camera in the scilon's face. But you can tell by the background what's going on. but asif that wasn't enough, a different camera angle CONFIRMED it. Scilons will lie to you about stuff that's happening THERE AND THEN!

I wouldn't trust a Scilon to tell me the time.

[dileepvr]

"I wouldn't trust a Scilon to tell me the time."

HAHA,.... LOL

Classic!!

/smirk /smirk

[hellshade2]

to be brutally honest a 14% success rate quite honsetly sucks. nrconon is obviously full of shit.

[auchraw]

Are we surprised? But are we not talking here about CRIMINON, the Scientology Corporation's way of recruiting really bad guys inside prisons? Not drug treatment, which has equally appalling results however you measure them.

[lazyperfectionist1]

If one can truly judge a society by the way it treats its prisoners, this does not speak well of us.

[mobiltec]

"If one can truly judge a society by the way it treats its prisoners, this does not speak well of us."

Ya know what? I have had it completely with this society. Fuck em all and let Xenu sort em out. They will not take me alive.

[Desertphile]

"Fuck em all and let Xenu sort em out. They will not take me alive."

The whole fucking modern human world has turned into zombies. It sucks feeling like The Omega Man, trying to avoid 6 billion people.

[dorbie]

People who complete anything are more likely to not reoffend.

[Nykytyne]

THIS gets government funding??? It was bad enough when they were just tax exempt.

[FSBlueapocalypse]

Wow, another reason to hate the "Church"

[anmoose]

Absolutely sparkling results. I simply don't understand why the program isn't more widely implemented. With proper refinements, it's possible that every single one getting out could be going right back in.

Except for those who die from liver failure...

[auchraw]

And those who are taken on by the Scientology Corporation . . .

[AnonymousHouston]

Wow...14% where do I sign up. :P Glory Marcabia!

[soulinite]

All Hail Xenu!

[Desertphile]

"Table 20 collapses new charges and probation violations into one category (recidivism) and compares recidivism to discharge status. There were no statistically significant differences between discharge status and recidivism. This means students who completed the program were no more or less likely to have a new arrest or probation violation than a student who resigned from the program, was medically discharged, or was released."

[Textra1]

Narconon? Isn't that the treatment where you take crazy amounts of vitamins over a couple of months, potentially giving you permanent liver and kidney damage?

[soulinite]

yup, that's the one.

[Textra1]

I can't figure why anyone would submit to this. It aught to be illegal. The church of scientology are a bunch of crack-pots with no medical training at all.

I narconon is why poor Katie Holmes' skin is turning all purple and she looks like something from Night of the Living Dead. I feel so sorry for that poor woman. I have the feeling that she'll be seeking serious psychological help when she finally escapes the cult of scientology and that mad man Tom Cruise.

[Textra1]

Correction - "I guess narconon is..."

[Relyt22]

NarCONon is already banned from California, or at least from schools.

Katie Holmes' skin is purple because of the "purification rundown" which is a Scientology practice implemented into Narconon.

[auchraw]

There's a very good Swedish film on Vimeo and WWP about Narconon in Sweden, how local officials are being conned into supporting it, paying them millions of Kroner, what Swedish psychiatrists think of it, and so on. Sorry no URL.

[Desertphile]

narCONon was also kicked out of Utah schools. Odd how each State must find out about narCONon the expensive way.

[Phranswa]

@Textra1 I see people just dont have a clue what they're talking about. Yes cause you know Narconon will give you vitamins that can be harmful to you!! Gee I am surprised how ignorant and uneducated people can be. Oh by the way i got one single question for you: you attended the treatment and know about what you are talking about!? i can answer this for you...NO. I rest my case and you do realize Santa Clause is a myth.