Why the Janis Joplin trashing? I know she was a great singer, but she also showed great comedic timing. I mean, how many comedians would have passed up an opening like Gloria gave her? Great interview
@pippipepper hey,i'd have loved janis to be part of 'that' equation too. which is to say, a lot of women today, think all men are just into physical beauty, regarding attaction to women. a lot of dudes are about that. i'm not saying looks are not important,but speaking for myself,and some other guys, interesting,intelligent, and sexy; trump dumb and pretty any day.
little head- large head-swanson to janis-sunset holding co-gloria loves janis and holding co loves sunset- swanson grey triangle of love-joe kennedy & lil gloria into cod fish love girl-oh yeah !
Gloria was no prude! She was the bad girl of the silent era with Louise Brooks and the rest of em. She drank, smoked, and hung out with transvestites in dive bars in Berlin and even saluted the casket of Andy Warhol Superstar Candy Darling when she passed on. Gloria is defiantly no snob. A remarkable woman!
Gloria Swanson was a vegetarian long before it became popular, advocate of macrobiotic diets, she did not eat refined sugar and she usually brought her own food to outings in a paper bag. Her skin was amazing!
The tragic difference is that Gloria was tough and a survivor. When you see Gloria here, you see a tough, hard woman who had come from nothing, partied hard when she was young, had an affair with JFK's dad, had power and lost it and survived it all. When she looks at Janis, it's the skeptical look of a strong woman who wants the little girl to prove she can do the same. Unfortunately for us all, it was not to be.
A lot of people in the comments seem to take Swanson's pun on head as Joplin's. There's a lot of awkwardness and misunderstanding between the two of them in this clip but I think in general they were saying the same things but not sure if they knew it. I totally agree about Swanson's look to Joplin being a bit "skeptical" justifiably so considering the girl would be dead within a couple months; I don't think either of them meant any offense though.
@tousamis Now that I think about it, an elderly lady is not going to react the same way a 26 year old is to a sexual joke, so I think you have a point.
you see, she was very snob and glamourous so she couldn't talk about "head", she repeats it several times with a cold self control and a malicious eye, without knowing, but as silent star she could not react like Janis you know ;-)))
@tousamis Gloria Swanson comes from the roaring twenties, glamourous, yes, but with all the decadence of the era. She's been around, she knew exactly what she was doing when she said that.
This makes me feel like I want to have a hippie be-in, love-in, let's all get a little understanding love-fest; much like they both seem to want with Dick Cavett
Anyone who suggests that because Janis was a hippie, she was the wilder of the two, should do a little reading on Hollywood in the late teens and early twenties. It was a wild time and Gloria was right in the thick of it. The hippies didn't invent drugs and sexual promiscuity.
She had a unique sense of humor and the eyes... her eyes were the kind, it seemed, to pierce you with a sexy glare. No wonder Joseph P. Kennedy, the patriarch of the famous Kennedy clan, was helpless in her presence.
Swanson's acting all smug and condescending toward Janis like she's white trash or something and it's hilarious because Janis knows more useful things about life and how to live it than that woman could ever imagine.
cavett had great form when he was in the moment, and had a great knack of bringing different guests together and then trying to initiate some kind of conversation. sometimes it worked and sometimes it didnt.
You've got to hand it to Cavett. Not Jay or Letterman or Conan would have the imagination today to sit these together together in the same show. Yet one is no more or less an entertainer than the other, and Cavett had the smarts to understand how broad the term entertainer really is. The clips from his ABC show are very nearly national treasures.
Why do people have to disrespect Joplin on this? She's just being herself. She died like a month after this. The woman was messed up, but truly talented, far more then the flash in the pans that pop out almost daily nowadays.
Gloria Swanson is an elegant, but not affected, star and very much her own person as well. No need to put one above the other.
I mean i don't care if they made bad music (not did they made bad music, i'm just saying)but i still, really from the heart i appreciatte the soul they had for music
@dancingdiplodocus NO, Janis would not be thought of as white trash today - due to the fact that she is well educated, well brought up, and simply a Rock Star. As you say, she has more wit than many people on tv today - I totally agree! She can carry her hippy image into the year 2011 with grace..Definitely NOT white trash! White trash has no talent, no class, no nothing...she has it all and can carry off just about any kind of interview which is why Dick kept having her back on!!!
@dancingdiplodocus NO, Janis would not be thought of as white trash today - due to the fact that she is WELL EDUCATED, WELL BROUGHT UP, and simply a ROCK STAR. As you say, she has more wit than many people on tv today - I totally agree! She can carry her hippy image into the year 2011 with grace..Definitely NOT white trash! White trash has no talent, no class, no nothing...she has it all and can carry off just about any kind of interview which is why Dick kept having her back on!!!
@dancingdiplodocus Janis Joplin ? white trash? pfft everyone love those Jersey shore people and they are TRASH . all they do is get drunk, sleep around, fight, cause drama. Janis had CLASS and was beautiful from the inside out.
@foofwolf22 Swanson is being a bitch to Joplin in this clip, so shove it up your ass, learn to spell "buffoon" , and get back in the closet to learn how to apply the lipstick you stole from your mother.
each one in each place!the unnatural "easy way" of the histherical Joplin and the perfect,humoristic,"arch manners"of a much modern and really talented grandmother
XxBrooklynsFinestxX...I'm sure that Janis meant it as a compliment...good-natured ribbing so to speak. Gloria Swanson was a very proper sort of woman. I think Janis being the free-spirited child of 1960's San Francisco was totally baffling to poor Ms. Swanson. I love both of them...but we're lucky the universe didn't implode when the two of them sat down together.
I would say it's 99% probable that Joplin had never heard of Swanson before this show, and 100% vice versa, and unlike all the canned talk shows today, the ones then were often more fun and unpredictable. What could be a stranger pairing? If Cavett could have found Hitler, he'd have had him on with Shirley Temple and Lassie. You could say the same for Merv Griffin. Because everything is so scripted, white-bread and bland today, naturally this clip comes off as edgy, rude, improper.
Aside from being mammals, I have no idea of what Misses Swanson and Bullock have in common or why they would belong in the same sentence, much less compared.
It is probable Janis knew Swanson had been somebody important, and that is all. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't see Joplin as one who would gravitate toward silent films, which, except for Sunset, is where Swanson was a goddess. Not to put Janis down, I like her.
Everybody in America knew that "I'm ready for my closeup, now " was from Gloria Swanson. She was in a ton of movies, and was more famous than Sandra Bullock is now. Just because you have next to no knowledge of old Hollywood, and are drawn into 60s hippy culture doesn't mean other people are the same. Especially 40 years ago.
For 1 thing, kiddo, it's "I'm ready for my close-up." The "now" is something you added. That is how inexperienced you are and how little you know. I have cufflinks older than you. For another, it would have been easy for you just to find right here on this page my discussions of Swanson's age as well as other stars of yesteryear, something I have a serious interest in. Suggestion: write less, read more. Read bios of Swanson and Joplin for starters. I have. And don't argue with grown-ups.
Did I tell you not to argue with grown-ups? Again, you show how little knowledge and imagination you have. Just because I am more than twice your age doesn't guarantee you'll outlive me. Need an example? Swanson was more than twice the age of Joplin in this clip. Joplin would soon be dead; Swanson lived well over a decade longer. Again, suggestion: read more, write less. Listen more, talk less.
Yer both full o' crap!! Both the movie star and the blues girl laugh at your "square comments"...... alot of the haight culture (of which Janis belonged) was built on '20's myth- like old silents , cartoon, and clothing.....how 'bout the r. crumb album?
@thatchickkayla Huh? If I, who was born in 1983, who never watched a silent movie in his life, had heard of Gloria Swanson's NAME (didnt know her face,) then there is no way somebody born in the '40s had never heard of her.
Gloria Swanson was amazing, a legend, and the epitome of class and appeal. My parents are big Joplin fans and from what I know I believe she was quite talented herself...my question is, does anyone know or at least have a good idea if what Janis said to Miss Swanson was meant as a compliment an insult or what? I'm sorry I'm not well-aquainted with 70s lingo...I'm 22 and the only retro anything I like is from the 20s 30s and 40s. lol
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If anyone was even slightly rude, it was Janis Joplin. It would have been in best taste to have at least stood while clapping as the great Miss Swanson made her entrance. That would have been the gracious thing to do and I do believe that Miss Swanson would have done that for Joplin if their roles had been reversed. However, I'm betting that Joplin didn't purposely mean to insult or disrespect Miss Swanson. Miss Swanson was quite an icon.
Plutocat13-Did woman stand for other woman back then? I know we were still holding onto the old rules of etiquette (to some extent) back then or perhaps it was the hippy mindset that they were "real" while Hollywood was "phony"-and they were too cool to play the old games?
Maybe she thought that way but if so, that would be highly unfortunate as that is (in itself) a form of elitism. Again, though, maybe Janis didn't even realize that she had done what she had done. I don't think that she treated Miss Swanson in a mean manner at all, so it was probably just a simple social faux pas.
I think she was totally classy to Janis. they just come from different worlds. She was a rocker and a chain smoker and Gloria was a classy old Hollywood actress.
I wish people would stop putting down Janis Joplin for the sake of Gloria Swanson. They shouldn't even be compared. Both are legends of the highest caliber and deserve equal respect.
I'm not sure that Miss Swanson is being cold or snobbish here. Like many "faded" stars of another time, she was probably insecure and a bit nervous coming on the show. As for the double entendre, I just don't know if it was planned or not. Her later comment about "busts" seems to belie that.
But certainly Cavett knew this could be a fascinating match-up.
I'm finding in the 70's there was much more drug taking/ suggestive humor than there is today on television... not that i'd know, considering I'm not much of a television watcher these days
Amazing to see both of them together. Janice and Gloria were both very smart women. It's a shame that women don't unite. Instead, they compete to be the only woman in the room. Also, at this time, it was assumed that Gloria had had several face lifts. Still, a beautiful face.
Actually, Swanson wrote those lines with Joplin in mind. She comes in, politely bows to her, and instantly looks away. Complete put-down. And the snide remark about fuss, any other brilliant person, etc. But if she was Queen of her day, Joplin was Queen of the Day and I love how she fires back instantly with the silver-tongued devil line. Ms. Swanson was exactly the kind of girls that Janis said laughed her out of Texas, and she may have been nervous, but she was having hers back. Super.
what is all this about tension between Gloria and Janis, they seem to be talking and laughing. All of Cavitt is awkard! every clip of his show hes so weird and never knows what to say... wish there was more of this interview... but they do not seem to be at each other or talking down, just laughing
The late great Miss Swanson always looked years younger than she was, thanks to being a health food devotee LONG before it was the "in thing". She was ALWAYS "big"....it was the pictures that got small. Even though she wasn't the first choice for Norma Desmond, it's hard to think of anyone else doing as well in the role as she did. Gloria ROCKS!
Cavett is such a coward between these ladies. He's not playing along, he's trying to keep everything civil and clean. He should have taken advantage of the tension between Swanson and Joplin.
I think Gloria was talking down to Janis just a little. As a sometimes quiet person I've noticed people tend to start patronizing you if you don't say anything right away.
Gloria is very confident and she's using that against Janis, who doesn't seem so confident (or maybe she's just not interested). I hated how she was talking to Dick about Janis as if she wasn't there.
maclasch, basically when Janis teased Gloria about being "a silver-tongued devil" it is a joking way of saying "Oh you flirt, putting on the lady charms to Mr. Cavett" Then right away Gloria is like "Oh, no, I did not write these litlle cards(the witty business-like card that she gave to Cavett) Gloria was trying to make sure the actual person who made the cute cards got credit. It was just a quick back and forth,Nothing to really analyze about. (Or did I just do that lol)
wow. pure style, pure glamour, what a fascinating woman, they don´t make faces like that anymore, holliwood is full of trash, nowdays the new socalled stars are tacky cheesy with no class or style at all, they get paid huge salaries and all but of course money cant buy class or style
Hi poetic journalism, (and folks this is off subject of the vid just replying to poet) you should check out some Judy Holiday movies. She was great and funny. Way before the improv stuff in Chicago and Toronto she and her friends did some improv showa in NY back in the late 30's - I guess they were amazing and hilariou!. Wish I could have seen them. Anyway just a little sideline note. Peace.
But it was Judy Holliday who ruled the best actress award, for her wonderful performance in Born Yesterday. Extremely stiff competition that year though.
This is one of the most surreal panels I have ever seen on a talk show... and dammit, late night talk shows (Or Griffin or Douglas in the '60's, in the afternoon) were more often than not exactly like this, day after day! Guests came out, and they stayed out. Celebs from various disciplines and generations either interracted wittily or banged against each other in talkshow demolitions, and it was riveting and fun! Maher's show is the closest thing we have now. Sad.
What characters. It's sad to think Janis Joplin would be dead two months later. Gloria Swanson looks pretty good for 71! It's a shame she didn't get more work, especially after her major comeback. I imagine she was competing with Katharine Hepburn, Bette Davis, and Joan Crawford for the kinds of roles she would have most excelled in.
redjustice1917 IF Joplin was a 'mess' as your say it was because of those god awful talentless hillbillies down in jesusland where she grew up...."a walking nightmare"? Yeah whatever Rednecktian jerk. You are well bad.
I'm from Poland and I don't understand,what Gloria said and what Janis answered..please..Can somebody translete me or write in english all dialogue;>?
Cavett reads the card, which I think you can understand.
Janis Joplin says: "You silver tonged devil". This is an expression which means Gloria is flattering Mr. Cavett with her words. The "silver tongued" refers to speaking well. The "devil" part refers to flattering a person to manipulate them.
I love both Swanson and Joplin. It did seem a little awkward in the beginning, but by the end the ice seemed to be mostly broken. Such a short video though, I would've liked to see more. I think it's funny how Swanson still thought it was 1927 in the way she dressed. I have no problems with it though, I thought she looked very elegant. And, coming from a 17 year old, I wish we had TV like this today.
OMG you pseudo religious con freaks who think Swanson was the saint and Joplin was the sinner are completely delusional. It's clear that there is a generational gap thing going on here and it has nothing to do with one being more "moral" than the other.
Yes, I'm with you on this one. If you would like to see another example of a "generational gap thing" look out for the Parkinson programme on which he interviewed Robbie Williams and Peter O'Toole... I wish Joplin hadn't let herself down so badly however with that dreadful false laugh. She'd have gone done well with it today of course.
You are so right....she was Joe Kennedy's mistress and quite a devil...but "stars" like her were "ladies" in public..that is what is fascinating...but I was so happy to see your post because I was ready to type something similar : )
Janis tried to be friendly, and I don't know of Gloria Swanson enough to give a real impression of her. She seemed very uptight to be "judged" by anyone, and I got the impression that what Janis might have considered conversation; Swanson took as a threat. Just a personal opinion, though.
on the other hand,since I've read books on Miss Swanson,I think maybe she expected to converse with someone who had a little class,and didn't just spit out whatever garbage came to mind,imo.
Ms. Swansons' skin looke so creamy and dewy, it looks much better than mine and I'm not her age. She seemed to carry herself very regal.
iammadea2 1 week ago
Janis is so cool here. The old witch: "1912 called Ms Swanson - They want their clothes back." Antiquated old hag.
RayL1983 1 week ago
Why the Janis Joplin trashing? I know she was a great singer, but she also showed great comedic timing. I mean, how many comedians would have passed up an opening like Gloria gave her? Great interview
kirbygene 2 months ago
Classy and trashy.
jackbarney1 2 months ago
Happy Birthday Mr Dick Cavett .... Muchas felicidades... 19 noviembre 2011
juanbosco31 2 months ago
Janis Joplin...what trash.
Jeetyet 4 months ago
@Jeetyet Nope...your`e trash, trolling on a dead girl!
Dani8132m 4 months ago 2
@Dani8132m I second that.
RayL1983 1 week ago
Janis's laugh is so great and contagious, I just can't help but smile everytime I hear/see it!
Tralalere 4 months ago
Love this!!
vodden2k6 7 months ago
I love Gloria's wig and Joplin's hair boah!!!
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@pippipepper hey,i'd have loved janis to be part of 'that' equation too. which is to say, a lot of women today, think all men are just into physical beauty, regarding attaction to women. a lot of dudes are about that. i'm not saying looks are not important,but speaking for myself,and some other guys, interesting,intelligent, and sexy; trump dumb and pretty any day.
brainsareus 9 months ago
So damn funny I almost peed my pants!
bonzoo07 9 months ago
MY GOODNESS , GLORIA WAS STILL A BEAUTY EVEN AS AN OLD WOMEN .... U GO GIRL
sierria64 9 months ago
@sierria64 i would have feasted on gloria's pussy...
brainsareus 9 months ago
norma desmonds pussy lives on forever...susnset boulevard dreams, of grey haired pubic pussy delight.........
brainsareus 10 months ago
janis did a lot of head-god love her
brainsareus 11 months ago
janis was into dick's head and gloria's silver tongue-three way free way-
brainsareus 11 months ago
little head- large head-swanson to janis-sunset holding co-gloria loves janis and holding co loves sunset- swanson grey triangle of love-joe kennedy & lil gloria into cod fish love girl-oh yeah !
brainsareus 11 months ago
Both Gloria and Janis are awesome to watch. Gloria had a great sense of humor. She looks great here too.
DA90027 11 months ago
@DA90027 gloria- was into holistic health
brainsareus 11 months ago
Can someone explain this to me? I think there's a sexual innuendo but... I'm not shure...
toyamac 11 months ago
the ghost of norma desmond, is going to haunt some of the unbelievers here,watch out........watch out........
brainsareus 11 months ago
I wanna do your head.... I mean, just imagine saying that to someone. So cool. They are both so damn cool!
ChrissieBana 11 months ago
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mickeydeweylooloo 1 year ago
@mickeydeweylooloo get a life,hope she haunts you!!
charlieboy44849 11 months ago
Feeling old here, born in 1969. Love it though.
MrJeppelin 1 year ago
Gloria was no prude! She was the bad girl of the silent era with Louise Brooks and the rest of em. She drank, smoked, and hung out with transvestites in dive bars in Berlin and even saluted the casket of Andy Warhol Superstar Candy Darling when she passed on. Gloria is defiantly no snob. A remarkable woman!
Jamesisaairplane 1 year ago 3
Who on earth thought of putting Janis Joplin and Gloria Swanson on the same talk show - it's a real testament to the generation gap.
Chutson353 1 year ago
J.J. is sooo lame.
rewardless 1 year ago
At the time, who would have thought that Gloria Swanson would have out lived Janis Joplin. Well, maybe a lot of people.
jckfmsincty 1 year ago
If Janis had lived, she definitely should have teamed up with Gloria for some kind of thing. They make a FANTASTIC double act.
Messylin 1 year ago 2
@Messylin
yes but it's as strange to see them together than watching an old Marilyn Monroe talking to Amy Winehouse today.
tousamis 1 year ago
Gloria looked younger here than she was in Sunset Boulevard 20 years earlier!
FrayneFolant 1 year ago
Gloria Swanson is a bridge.
Ypipable 1 year ago
That's wonderful! thanks for posting.
Gloria Swanson was a vegetarian long before it became popular, advocate of macrobiotic diets, she did not eat refined sugar and she usually brought her own food to outings in a paper bag. Her skin was amazing!
sfmarklh 1 year ago
Gloria Swanson had gorgeous eyes. She was a beautiful lady.
virgofemme5 1 year ago
Wow, I wish I had her moisturizer! Norma Desmond in oil!
MrJosephRizzo 1 year ago
The tragic difference is that Gloria was tough and a survivor. When you see Gloria here, you see a tough, hard woman who had come from nothing, partied hard when she was young, had an affair with JFK's dad, had power and lost it and survived it all. When she looks at Janis, it's the skeptical look of a strong woman who wants the little girl to prove she can do the same. Unfortunately for us all, it was not to be.
mtamundsen 1 year ago 2
@mtamundsen
A lot of people in the comments seem to take Swanson's pun on head as Joplin's. There's a lot of awkwardness and misunderstanding between the two of them in this clip but I think in general they were saying the same things but not sure if they knew it. I totally agree about Swanson's look to Joplin being a bit "skeptical" justifiably so considering the girl would be dead within a couple months; I don't think either of them meant any offense though.
dkdae1 1 year ago
@dkdae1 I personally don't think Gloria was in on the joke.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
@xXPinkGoddessXx
I think she really was, she was smart you now !
tousamis 1 year ago
@tousamis Now that I think about it, an elderly lady is not going to react the same way a 26 year old is to a sexual joke, so I think you have a point.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
@xXPinkGoddessXx
you see, she was very snob and glamourous so she couldn't talk about "head", she repeats it several times with a cold self control and a malicious eye, without knowing, but as silent star she could not react like Janis you know ;-)))
tousamis 1 year ago
@tousamis Gloria Swanson comes from the roaring twenties, glamourous, yes, but with all the decadence of the era. She's been around, she knew exactly what she was doing when she said that.
3dsound 7 months ago 2
@xXPinkGoddessXx What make you think that she didn't? She's been around, she's no choirboy.
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dkdae1 1 year ago
@mtamundsen
This makes me feel like I want to have a hippie be-in, love-in, let's all get a little understanding love-fest; much like they both seem to want with Dick Cavett
dkdae1 1 year ago
Anyone who suggests that because Janis was a hippie, she was the wilder of the two, should do a little reading on Hollywood in the late teens and early twenties. It was a wild time and Gloria was right in the thick of it. The hippies didn't invent drugs and sexual promiscuity.
mtamundsen 1 year ago 4
@mtamundsen You make a very interesting comment. Truely....Thank-You, something to think about.
LondonBobby4 1 year ago
@mtamundsen you are absolutely right.
3dsound 7 months ago
Janis = Better Flow
And Swanson... go right ahead girl, no one's stopping you.
LunaSeaSane 1 year ago
two girls, one Dick
karolecampesine 1 year ago
....Gloria Swanson...had an 'air' about her....such class and a legend...Janis so 'down to earth....' I like 'em both....!
yedon68 1 year ago 7
Janis is absolutely halarious (is that spelt right?) you just got to love her, so freaking cute and fun!
LitZena 1 year ago
@LitZena Hilarious!!!! You just got to LOVE her!!!! No artists today come close to her!!!!
gooboo1000 1 year ago
Man, Gloria Swanson looked amazing for 71!
nnahler 1 year ago 11
love it!!
lynner4 1 year ago
She had a unique sense of humor and the eyes... her eyes were the kind, it seemed, to pierce you with a sexy glare. No wonder Joseph P. Kennedy, the patriarch of the famous Kennedy clan, was helpless in her presence.
Democrat64 1 year ago
Gloria Swanson is like... how old in this video? And she's really sexy.
willruddock 1 year ago
Swanson's acting all smug and condescending toward Janis like she's white trash or something and it's hilarious because Janis knows more useful things about life and how to live it than that woman could ever imagine.
panicxitsxbrea 1 year ago
@panicxitsxbrea
Swanson was a true star and proved it before Janis was conceived.
I'm saying they are both great, but in different forms.
Easy mary...
84ccipollini 1 year ago
@panicxitsxbrea honestly how would you know what Gloria Swanson had experienced in life?
phlizmo 1 year ago
cavett had great form when he was in the moment, and had a great knack of bringing different guests together and then trying to initiate some kind of conversation. sometimes it worked and sometimes it didnt.
sickkat44 1 year ago
You've got to hand it to Cavett. Not Jay or Letterman or Conan would have the imagination today to sit these together together in the same show. Yet one is no more or less an entertainer than the other, and Cavett had the smarts to understand how broad the term entertainer really is. The clips from his ABC show are very nearly national treasures.
dvlaries 1 year ago
Why do people have to disrespect Joplin on this? She's just being herself. She died like a month after this. The woman was messed up, but truly talented, far more then the flash in the pans that pop out almost daily nowadays.
Gloria Swanson is an elegant, but not affected, star and very much her own person as well. No need to put one above the other.
84ccipollini 1 year ago 5
Love Janis in this clip and shows she had a great sense of humour...Don't care too much for Swanson
MrDoctorDJ 1 year ago
I mention Swanson in The Celebrity Song.
superdavid002 1 year ago
LMFAO oh my jesus, janis is too much, half coughing on a laugh as she manages her answer love her
SniperUrFaceXD 1 year ago
the link for the longer version of this interview
bestvaluemaui 1 year ago
look at her (janis) so real, so pure, gloria so fake so showy, dick the ...well the dick
bestvaluemaui 1 year ago
@bestvaluemaui
I disagree. She was an elegant star. She lived it and breathed it and most of all EARNED it.
84ccipollini 1 year ago
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panicxitsxbrea 1 year ago
@bestvaluemaui Bah, nonsense
Pippin76 1 year ago
What ladies....gosh.
Thejbirdy 1 year ago
"I'm ready for my closeup Mr Deville"
Bellyflops2 1 year ago
@Bellyflops2
Actually it's, "Alright Mr. DeMILLE, I'm ready for my closeup.."
84ccipollini 1 year ago
haahaha xD they're so different!
acepella1221 1 year ago
it's so great to see this...thank you!
cinefi 1 year ago
I really thought Lady Gaga was coming in!
cactusapple 1 year ago
Janis Joplin's responce is HILARIOUS! "Yeeeesss, IIIIIII doooOOOO"
Hahahaha
vaiodog 1 year ago 24
Joplin and Swanson,... what a beautiful contrast in approaches to art, although I think that in the end they are more alike than they are different.
tolstoy1 2 years ago 6
can you even imagine an exchange like this happening today.
for a start, joplin would be laughed at for being white trash or something, even though she has more wit than any of these douchbags on tv today
viva la cavette
dancingdiplodocus 2 years ago 25
Your a self rightous pig.
zuniga6412 2 years ago
am I? don't see why you say that, but ok
dancingdiplodocus 2 years ago
@dancingdiplodocus oh yess most definitly man.
I mean i don't care if they made bad music (not did they made bad music, i'm just saying)but i still, really from the heart i appreciatte the soul they had for music
Hvb101 10 months ago
@dancingdiplodocus NO, Janis would not be thought of as white trash today - due to the fact that she is well educated, well brought up, and simply a Rock Star. As you say, she has more wit than many people on tv today - I totally agree! She can carry her hippy image into the year 2011 with grace..Definitely NOT white trash! White trash has no talent, no class, no nothing...she has it all and can carry off just about any kind of interview which is why Dick kept having her back on!!!
breezynorthwind 10 months ago 5
@breezynorthwind you are so right on........!!
brainsareus 9 months ago
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@dancingdiplodocus NO, Janis would not be thought of as white trash today - due to the fact that she is WELL EDUCATED, WELL BROUGHT UP, and simply a ROCK STAR. As you say, she has more wit than many people on tv today - I totally agree! She can carry her hippy image into the year 2011 with grace..Definitely NOT white trash! White trash has no talent, no class, no nothing...she has it all and can carry off just about any kind of interview which is why Dick kept having her back on!!!
breezynorthwind 10 months ago
@dancingdiplodocus Janis Joplin ? white trash? pfft everyone love those Jersey shore people and they are TRASH . all they do is get drunk, sleep around, fight, cause drama. Janis had CLASS and was beautiful from the inside out.
kozmicblues14 6 months ago
You just listen to the introduction music, is a funeral melody
kuku629 2 years ago
Excellent~! What a Blessing to see this..Royalty there~! I'm certain they will know how we sure care & miss them~! Thanks, your Friend, Donny
TheBeatNickMan 2 years ago
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janis OD she was very arrogant indeed
babypianocries 2 years ago
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janis joplin was ignorant.
doreal 2 years ago
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g. swanson is a dried up old hag. Joplin had her on the ropes from the get-go.
kokoheal 2 years ago
Bafoon! The woman is a screen legend! There are equal, just in differant ways.
foofwolf22 2 years ago 4
@foofwolf22 Swanson is being a bitch to Joplin in this clip, so shove it up your ass, learn to spell "buffoon" , and get back in the closet to learn how to apply the lipstick you stole from your mother.
kokoheal 2 years ago
I will not! That lipstick was 2.50 and i got it in a grab bag at Sally's Beauty Supply!
They have MARVELOUS deals thank you!
foofwolf22 2 years ago
@foofwolf22 nicely done.
kokoheal 2 years ago
Love.
foofwolf22 2 years ago
janis isnt nasty 123lovegun, you're an idiot!
thatchickkayla 2 years ago
look at the size of that lav mic hanging around Cavett's neck!
vaproductionalliance 2 years ago
..watch dick cavets body language as he covers his 'croch'
yedon68 2 years ago
each one in each place!the unnatural "easy way" of the histherical Joplin and the perfect,humoristic,"arch manners"of a much modern and really talented grandmother
luisrvigil 2 years ago
XxBrooklynsFinestxX...I'm sure that Janis meant it as a compliment...good-natured ribbing so to speak. Gloria Swanson was a very proper sort of woman. I think Janis being the free-spirited child of 1960's San Francisco was totally baffling to poor Ms. Swanson. I love both of them...but we're lucky the universe didn't implode when the two of them sat down together.
CleoTheSim 2 years ago 4
Here, here!
brendabergman 2 years ago
That was hilarious!!!! I think that was great!
VenusInPisces 2 years ago 2
I would say it's 99% probable that Joplin had never heard of Swanson before this show, and 100% vice versa, and unlike all the canned talk shows today, the ones then were often more fun and unpredictable. What could be a stranger pairing? If Cavett could have found Hitler, he'd have had him on with Shirley Temple and Lassie. You could say the same for Merv Griffin. Because everything is so scripted, white-bread and bland today, naturally this clip comes off as edgy, rude, improper.
defundthewar 2 years ago 3
No way Joplin didn't know about Swanson.. that's like somebody not knowing who Sandra Bullock is.. you'd have to be an idiot.
Jsd8675 2 years ago
Aside from being mammals, I have no idea of what Misses Swanson and Bullock have in common or why they would belong in the same sentence, much less compared.
It is probable Janis knew Swanson had been somebody important, and that is all. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't see Joplin as one who would gravitate toward silent films, which, except for Sunset, is where Swanson was a goddess. Not to put Janis down, I like her.
defundthewar 2 years ago
Everybody in America knew that "I'm ready for my closeup, now " was from Gloria Swanson. She was in a ton of movies, and was more famous than Sandra Bullock is now. Just because you have next to no knowledge of old Hollywood, and are drawn into 60s hippy culture doesn't mean other people are the same. Especially 40 years ago.
Jsd8675 2 years ago 2
For 1 thing, kiddo, it's "I'm ready for my close-up." The "now" is something you added. That is how inexperienced you are and how little you know. I have cufflinks older than you. For another, it would have been easy for you just to find right here on this page my discussions of Swanson's age as well as other stars of yesteryear, something I have a serious interest in. Suggestion: write less, read more. Read bios of Swanson and Joplin for starters. I have. And don't argue with grown-ups.
defundthewar 2 years ago 2
Uh oh, somebody pulled out the age card... have you pre-planned your funeral, old one?
Jsd8675 2 years ago
Did I tell you not to argue with grown-ups? Again, you show how little knowledge and imagination you have. Just because I am more than twice your age doesn't guarantee you'll outlive me. Need an example? Swanson was more than twice the age of Joplin in this clip. Joplin would soon be dead; Swanson lived well over a decade longer. Again, suggestion: read more, write less. Listen more, talk less.
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Jsd8675 2 years ago
Yer both full o' crap!! Both the movie star and the blues girl laugh at your "square comments"...... alot of the haight culture (of which Janis belonged) was built on '20's myth- like old silents , cartoon, and clothing.....how 'bout the r. crumb album?
iorioriorio 2 years ago
I'm with defundthewar here. There is a greater chance that Joplin really didn't know who Swanson was before the show.
thatchickkayla 2 years ago
@thatchickkayla Huh? If I, who was born in 1983, who never watched a silent movie in his life, had heard of Gloria Swanson's NAME (didnt know her face,) then there is no way somebody born in the '40s had never heard of her.
Jsd8675 2 years ago
I dont think that assuming just because you have heard of her and you were born in '83 automatically means that Janis had as well.
thatchickkayla 2 years ago
Gloria Swanson was amazing, a legend, and the epitome of class and appeal. My parents are big Joplin fans and from what I know I believe she was quite talented herself...my question is, does anyone know or at least have a good idea if what Janis said to Miss Swanson was meant as a compliment an insult or what? I'm sorry I'm not well-aquainted with 70s lingo...I'm 22 and the only retro anything I like is from the 20s 30s and 40s. lol
XxBrooklynsFinestxX 2 years ago
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If anyone was even slightly rude, it was Janis Joplin. It would have been in best taste to have at least stood while clapping as the great Miss Swanson made her entrance. That would have been the gracious thing to do and I do believe that Miss Swanson would have done that for Joplin if their roles had been reversed. However, I'm betting that Joplin didn't purposely mean to insult or disrespect Miss Swanson. Miss Swanson was quite an icon.
Plutocat13 2 years ago
Plutocat13-Did woman stand for other woman back then? I know we were still holding onto the old rules of etiquette (to some extent) back then or perhaps it was the hippy mindset that they were "real" while Hollywood was "phony"-and they were too cool to play the old games?
sunfighter86 2 years ago
Maybe she thought that way but if so, that would be highly unfortunate as that is (in itself) a form of elitism. Again, though, maybe Janis didn't even realize that she had done what she had done. I don't think that she treated Miss Swanson in a mean manner at all, so it was probably just a simple social faux pas.
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dkdae1 1 year ago
I love Janis,love her laugh,2 wild,much love from San Francisco !
75andalive 2 years ago
is the inside joke about sex? i think it is, most everything is
gogbat 2 years ago
Gloria Swanson was pretty rude to Janis.
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carliex3 2 years ago
I think she was totally classy to Janis. they just come from different worlds. She was a rocker and a chain smoker and Gloria was a classy old Hollywood actress.
foofwolf22 2 years ago 3
I wish people would stop putting down Janis Joplin for the sake of Gloria Swanson. They shouldn't even be compared. Both are legends of the highest caliber and deserve equal respect.
foofwolf22 2 years ago 5
sit on his face? ...lmfao
ivano0o0o0 2 years ago
I'm not sure that Miss Swanson is being cold or snobbish here. Like many "faded" stars of another time, she was probably insecure and a bit nervous coming on the show. As for the double entendre, I just don't know if it was planned or not. Her later comment about "busts" seems to belie that.
But certainly Cavett knew this could be a fascinating match-up.
ipmoic 2 years ago 5
I'm finding in the 70's there was much more drug taking/ suggestive humor than there is today on television... not that i'd know, considering I'm not much of a television watcher these days
zipppit89 2 years ago
I loved her in Sunset Boulevard, but Ms. Swanson seems like a cold, unhappy snob of a person here.
bassocantante89 2 years ago
@ bassocantante89 :
I think you're wrong: just hear her laughing and how it sounds wonderfull!
manolino1969 2 years ago
Amazing to see both of them together. Janice and Gloria were both very smart women. It's a shame that women don't unite. Instead, they compete to be the only woman in the room. Also, at this time, it was assumed that Gloria had had several face lifts. Still, a beautiful face.
mpjrdldn 2 years ago
Actually, Swanson wrote those lines with Joplin in mind. She comes in, politely bows to her, and instantly looks away. Complete put-down. And the snide remark about fuss, any other brilliant person, etc. But if she was Queen of her day, Joplin was Queen of the Day and I love how she fires back instantly with the silver-tongued devil line. Ms. Swanson was exactly the kind of girls that Janis said laughed her out of Texas, and she may have been nervous, but she was having hers back. Super.
BruceBarney2008 2 years ago 2
ahhh janis. "do your head". she seemed VERY amused with that, lmao.
MaxAndGrrrace 2 years ago
these arent mine; the sentences she gave him in that paper
bolan1492 2 years ago
what is all this about tension between Gloria and Janis, they seem to be talking and laughing. All of Cavitt is awkard! every clip of his show hes so weird and never knows what to say... wish there was more of this interview... but they do not seem to be at each other or talking down, just laughing
elijah27b 2 years ago
I love this<3
Janis Joplin :)
ArielDevan 2 years ago
The late great Miss Swanson always looked years younger than she was, thanks to being a health food devotee LONG before it was the "in thing". She was ALWAYS "big"....it was the pictures that got small. Even though she wasn't the first choice for Norma Desmond, it's hard to think of anyone else doing as well in the role as she did. Gloria ROCKS!
JubalCalif 2 years ago 3
Cavett is such a coward between these ladies. He's not playing along, he's trying to keep everything civil and clean. He should have taken advantage of the tension between Swanson and Joplin.
AdArmand 2 years ago
He is sly.
He knew *exactly* what he was doing when he brought these two together. Just like when he had Janis and Raquel Welch.
Then he acts flustered and innocent.... Dumb like a fox.
mazeman01 2 years ago 2
To the netherworld for Gloria to do my head...
42STUKA 2 years ago
So classic.
karaokecrush 2 years ago
one of the funniest things i have ever seen. i mean janis joplin and gloria swanson, sounds like a great idea for snl
lilchuy01 2 years ago 3
I think Gloria was talking down to Janis just a little. As a sometimes quiet person I've noticed people tend to start patronizing you if you don't say anything right away.
Gloria is very confident and she's using that against Janis, who doesn't seem so confident (or maybe she's just not interested). I hated how she was talking to Dick about Janis as if she wasn't there.
maclasch 2 years ago
But what did Janis mean when she called Gloria a silver tongued devil? Was that a compliment or not?
And Gloria said: "oh these aren't mine". What was she talking about?
maclasch 2 years ago
maclasch, basically when Janis teased Gloria about being "a silver-tongued devil" it is a joking way of saying "Oh you flirt, putting on the lady charms to Mr. Cavett" Then right away Gloria is like "Oh, no, I did not write these litlle cards(the witty business-like card that she gave to Cavett) Gloria was trying to make sure the actual person who made the cute cards got credit. It was just a quick back and forth,Nothing to really analyze about. (Or did I just do that lol)
SueBeaWho 2 years ago 3
Thanks :-)
maclasch 2 years ago
if you think gloria was confident you are reading this wrong.
its clear she is very nervousand insecure.
and why wouldnt she be?
she comes from a different placein time.
as far as being "quiet"...often thats enough to make others feel uncomfortable..so people dont like that.
and lots of times it is used to controll.
JadeTomZ 2 years ago 3
wow. pure style, pure glamour, what a fascinating woman, they don´t make faces like that anymore, holliwood is full of trash, nowdays the new socalled stars are tacky cheesy with no class or style at all, they get paid huge salaries and all but of course money cant buy class or style
robby27000 2 years ago 5
Swanson should have won the Oscar for Sunset Blvd. But that year All About Eve ruled.
mickeymantle7777 2 years ago 2
I think that if either swanson or bette davis won, it would've been fair, NOT that judy holliday girl
poeticjournalism 2 years ago
Hi poetic journalism, (and folks this is off subject of the vid just replying to poet) you should check out some Judy Holiday movies. She was great and funny. Way before the improv stuff in Chicago and Toronto she and her friends did some improv showa in NY back in the late 30's - I guess they were amazing and hilariou!. Wish I could have seen them. Anyway just a little sideline note. Peace.
SueBeaWho 2 years ago
But it was Judy Holliday who ruled the best actress award, for her wonderful performance in Born Yesterday. Extremely stiff competition that year though.
KarinPluss 2 years ago
Thanks for the post, as Robert Osborne of TCM says, if I'm taking any movie with me to a desserted island, Sunset Blvd would be with me.
mickeymantle7777 2 years ago 2
This is one of the most surreal panels I have ever seen on a talk show... and dammit, late night talk shows (Or Griffin or Douglas in the '60's, in the afternoon) were more often than not exactly like this, day after day! Guests came out, and they stayed out. Celebs from various disciplines and generations either interracted wittily or banged against each other in talkshow demolitions, and it was riveting and fun! Maher's show is the closest thing we have now. Sad.
tuxguys 2 years ago
What characters. It's sad to think Janis Joplin would be dead two months later. Gloria Swanson looks pretty good for 71! It's a shame she didn't get more work, especially after her major comeback. I imagine she was competing with Katharine Hepburn, Bette Davis, and Joan Crawford for the kinds of roles she would have most excelled in.
zzzzz87 3 years ago
I think she was on theater.
Briserin 2 years ago
WOW!!! It is amazing to see these two women together! Great video!
SHRINA17 3 years ago
redjustice1917 IF Joplin was a 'mess' as your say it was because of those god awful talentless hillbillies down in jesusland where she grew up...."a walking nightmare"? Yeah whatever Rednecktian jerk. You are well bad.
sacozone 3 years ago
Glora Swanson was a bitch,becuase she feld very confident..I thin Janis was a simply girl and Gloria think she's the queen.
PS:ketihdow6 big thank for you.Greeting ;)
ooolka652 3 years ago
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newsflash "oolka," GLORIA SWANSON WAS AND IS A QUEEN! JANIS JOPLIN WAS A DRUGGIE WEIRDO WHORE.
redjustice1917 3 years ago
gloria was a queen.bar none
hollbri 2 years ago
I'm from Poland and I don't understand,what Gloria said and what Janis answered..please..Can somebody translete me or write in english all dialogue;>?
ooolka652 3 years ago
Cavett reads the card, which I think you can understand.
Janis Joplin says: "You silver tonged devil". This is an expression which means Gloria is flattering Mr. Cavett with her words. The "silver tongued" refers to speaking well. The "devil" part refers to flattering a person to manipulate them.
keithdow6 3 years ago 2
Incroyable Gloria...
ShanghaiFafa 3 years ago
I love both Swanson and Joplin. It did seem a little awkward in the beginning, but by the end the ice seemed to be mostly broken. Such a short video though, I would've liked to see more. I think it's funny how Swanson still thought it was 1927 in the way she dressed. I have no problems with it though, I thought she looked very elegant. And, coming from a 17 year old, I wish we had TV like this today.
kelseyann4 3 years ago 3
OMG you pseudo religious con freaks who think Swanson was the saint and Joplin was the sinner are completely delusional. It's clear that there is a generational gap thing going on here and it has nothing to do with one being more "moral" than the other.
sacozone 3 years ago
Yes, I'm with you on this one. If you would like to see another example of a "generational gap thing" look out for the Parkinson programme on which he interviewed Robbie Williams and Peter O'Toole... I wish Joplin hadn't let herself down so badly however with that dreadful false laugh. She'd have gone done well with it today of course.
priapus56 3 years ago
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oh please, Joplin was a living mess...a walking nightmare and u know it.
redjustice1917 3 years ago
You are so right....she was Joe Kennedy's mistress and quite a devil...but "stars" like her were "ladies" in public..that is what is fascinating...but I was so happy to see your post because I was ready to type something similar : )
SHRINA17 3 years ago
I love this clip, when Gloria couldn't hear Janis it looked like Gloria was ready to attack when Gloria said I beg your pardon but then she got it.
GennaMonroe 3 years ago
Janis' voice here saddens me. It's amazing the effects drugs can bring to a person. :-(
DetSonnyCrockett 3 years ago
Janis tried to be friendly, and I don't know of Gloria Swanson enough to give a real impression of her. She seemed very uptight to be "judged" by anyone, and I got the impression that what Janis might have considered conversation; Swanson took as a threat. Just a personal opinion, though.
fgeorge76 3 years ago
on the other hand,since I've read books on Miss Swanson,I think maybe she expected to converse with someone who had a little class,and didn't just spit out whatever garbage came to mind,imo.
4MaryAnna 3 years ago 2