Michigan State - Notre Dame Sideline Fray

[ZachMulcahy]

was there ever a quarter back with the last name fray

[billholio]

really classy nd,, you're bout to get wrecked tomorrow

[Meximeltisbest]

Charlie is such a fatass...

[macdaddy603]

#1 rule that all players are taught....... Do not enter into the opposing team's sideline. MSU players were stupid to step off the field onto those sidelines. Every MSU player that left the field and went onto ND sidelines should have been called for a personal foul. And #6 should have been ejected. The Refs did a poor job at controlling that situation & the MSU players instigated the entire thing. MSU needs to do a better job at controlling those guerrillas that they call football players.

[raquet561]

charlie just need a cheeseburger!

[DarkestNight2084]

Fat Charlie was just angry that he didnt get slapped across the face with a hotdog. My God, the man looks fatter everytime I see him.

[mitchman35z]

do you mind tellin me the final score

[manning306]

@DarkestNight2084 HEY SHUT THE HELL UP IF WANT COME GET SOME I MAKE YOUR DAY SO KISS MY BUTT

[saddy78]

Don't fuck with the Spartans! You fucking faggot Irish and your fat ass coach. You cocksuckers got caught cheating this year and we still kicked your ass!

[lancerbryan]

when??

[italianmsuboy]

ummm 2008 2007 2005 2003 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 how about that for when, since 1997 ND is a suck ass 3-9 against michigan state. o yeah doesnt that record sound fimilar. o yeah thats right ND's record in 2007. Smart ass

[lancerbryan]

when did notre dame cheat smart ass?

[italianmsuboy]

the thing with the lap top and the ND coach..

[SacredOrb]

Well we beat you this year so you can TAKE IT!

[Lordofrock117]

hey remember the class that MSU had when they planted the falg go irish MSU sucks

[chucknorris796]

both teams suck. so this game is pretty much to see which one is more shitty than the other. Congratulations MSU, your only the second shittiest.

[greatlakes04]

I especially like one of the ND coaches shoving an MSU player. Real classy.

[ixcuincle]

ND isn't going to do any better next year either. At this point even ND basketball is better than ND football.

[bfarley1]

I watched this 5 times and never saw him say " I got slapped in the face." ub3rxn00b, what are you smoking?

[greatlakes04]

What are you smoking? He definitely says it at around 1:10.

[dirtybirdambrose]

Notre Dame sucks...4-8, lost to MSU AGAIN this year (That makes you what, 2-8 against MSU in the last 10 years?) and you haven't won a bowl game since what, 1993?

[devinesp]

could care less as 2006 was typical MSU the big choke special as usual, just like every year MSU could start 4-0 6-0 they always choke in the big one! be it against ND, UM, or OSU!!!

[dirtybirdambrose]

Choking in big games? Like ND against USC, or any bowl game or MSU? By the way, you can't really claim MSU "chokes" against ND since they've won 8 of the last 10. And since you lost to NAVY AT HOME, you don't really have much of a leg to stand on.

[randyortonisthebest]

yeah you know, beating them 56 times in a row, we were bound to lose sometime, right. IDIOT

Agaist USC? bush-push, illegal shoulda won

Bowl game, BCS bowl games are hard to win

We'll kick your ass when we next see you guys

[dirtybirdambrose]

Typical ND fan whining about how they "should" have won...woulda, shoulda, coulda. Never mind actually stopping a 4th and 11 instead of allowing a 60+ yard pass. It's probably real hard to stop a team looking at 3rd and 20 deep in their own territory. Well, if you're Notre Dame it is.

Nice ass-kicking job today. Other than the 200yards rushing by Ringer, you had them. It's not quite as easy once you stop playing San Diego St. is it? Enjoy the other cupcakes before USC drops 40 on you.

[randyortonisthebest]

USC may drop 40 on us, but we'll score more then 3 like OSU. Ringer is a beast not much to say about that. You won by 16, at home, with a Senior QB and RB.

Pushing the ball-carrier is against the rules, so me whining about a call that should have been made, is legit.

[dirtybirdambrose]

Pushing the ballcarrier is illegal. It also happens all the time and is never called. You can watch any game it will happen dozens of times. Do you think ND hasn't benefited from it before? Was this a blatant one? Yes but it shouldn't have come to that. Not stopping a 3rd and 20 at home is inexusable. So is a long pass play on 4th and 11 when the world knows they're going downfield

As far as today, wins are wins. And you'll score more than three, but not 40. USC is a better defense than MSU

[randyortonisthebest]

No it shouldnt have come to that, but just because it happens all the time makes it ok in that HUGE game? I know Notre Dame hasnt won any games by doing that.

Also, i'm hoping by the time the last game for ND comes they wont fumble in the red zone, or miss 2 FG's.

[dirtybirdambrose]

Doesn't make it ok, no, but expecting that call to be made is pretty much an exercise in futility. A game like that, between two teams that good, officials are going to put their flags away and let them determine it on the field

ND moved the ball, but Weis made a bad play call to not try and get closer before the 2nd field goal. They've got some talented WRs, but Clausen hasn't looked great to me--he should have been picked the play before the 2nd FG attempt--and I think they are a year away

[randyortonisthebest]

I understand what you're saying, but let me put it this way, ND was winning, time was going to expire, they needed a TD, and they cheated to get it.

We moved the ball, and we have big play WR's and RB's and QB, but the playcalling is suspicious, but we are not that good man-on-man defense. DB vs WR they shouldnt win evertime

Plus, we need a guy who can kick field goals, going 0-2 missing 40-45 twice is unacceptable, especially cause he didnt miss short, but wide (by alot) twice.

[dirtybirdambrose]

Hey, I'm not disagreeing that they cheated. Just that no game is decided by one play

ND's kicker had a rough game, but I think one of the kicks was from 51 yards. Asking a college kid to do that is a tall order

Playcalling has been suspect, which is a big problem for Weis. When you have a 3rd and 10 from the 27 and you need a FG anyway, throwing to the endzone and challenging MSU's best defensive player (Wiley) is not smart. Trying to get 5 yards closer to make a FG more manageable is.

[randyortonisthebest]

I agree with that, but it just rubs me wrong you know?

I think our kicker is a sophmore, so maybe hes not as strong as he could be, but he nailed the 51 yarder in length, and the 41 yarder in length, but missed both wide. I'd rather him be accurate and short then long but inaccurate.

I agree, i think they should have run a draw play for allen or a quick pass to tate or floyd to see if they could get the first, but at least closer.

[lairdda1]

Weis is a fat scum-bag, I'm glad he's slowly destroying ND from the inside out.

[kajshack]

He CLEARLY says "I got slapped in the face" eh? That was so clear! (note the sarcasm).

[stoner611]

Charlie Weis needs to ge have another donut.

[Tressball]

Here's what I have a problem with.

Watch between :20 and :27 on the right side of the screen mid way between the top and bottom.

Does anyone else see the Notre Dame coach in there, grabbing Michigan State players and physically pulling them and shoving them?

A coach should NEVER put his hands on an opposing team's player. That coach should have been, if not ejected, penalized at the least. That's pathetic.

[DSNCB919]

yall shouldnt of ever fired Mr Tyrone Willingham.

[wieggy19]

he's doing soooooooo good at washington too.

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[Kurz1018]

NO you do what you have to do. That player should not be in ND sidelines. He is trying to ghet them out. So this fight wouldn't have happened. Any way Zibby #9 would kick any one on Michigan State team's ass.

[Tressball]

If you are a coach of the other team, no matter who it is, you NEVER put your hands on another player. Period.

[Kurz1018]

even if he is hitting a player. Nope you do what you have to do to get your players safe and get the opposing players out of there.

[Tressball]

If you watch the video the guy he grabbed wasn't touching any ND players. If you ever decide to somehow get into coaching football, let me know what happens when an opposing player comes on your sidelines and you forcefully put your hands on him and yank him. Let me know how long you have your job.

[UMRobert]

I never get why some players take their helmets off before or during a fight. I'd keep that thing on pretty damn tight.

[ezutube789]

why did michigan state lose this game? oh yeah ND kicked their fucking ass... typical MSU team... can't beat ND then they might as well give up the rest of the season

[Redwings119]

ND= 3-9 hahahahahahahahah

[ezutube789]

how come MSU's so classy? how come they have such smart players that dont get personal fouls to offset one already on the other team?

oh wait, it's just the opposite isnt it

[wergold]

typical msu season. start 4-0 and lose the rest of your games

[whodeykid]

we're 1-6 yeah we kick somebodys ass

[ViatorLion10]

We'll be better next year

[dannymac247]

Yeah, congrats, State. You beat an ND team that everyone else is beating. Applause. I'd hoped y'all would get a bit more classy after Smith left... I guess that takes more time.

[WyteBoyMagic]

HANK DID IT FIRE THEM UP TO GO 0-5? LOL

[hankseptember]

this is what fired up ND for the rest of the game...big attitude change for the irish after this

[calebyourmaster]

What happened to ND this year...?...BAHAHAHA GO SPARTANS

[Teo3434]

why is he so fat?

[hankseptember]

he eats cars

[jnmiller84]

ND sucks -- they thought they had a genius for a coach, but turns out he is a total FRAUD !! MSU will smoke them this weekend like they always do, and then plant the flag right in good ol' Charlie's gut !

[green4915]

Notre Dame and their fatty coach are going down this weekend just like they always do. Too bad that pussy Ryan Harris isn't there this year to get a little payback for the shit he pulled last yr on the sideline. ND, did you really believe you had a chance last week! You guys and girls all can suck it!

[weisguy78]

damn i wish zibby would have come over and knocked the shit out of matt tranon. fuck MSU

[sagstorm19]

haha notre dame fan talking shit. ummm nd is now 0-and what? 0-2? oh yea. NORTE DAME FUCKING SUCKS!

[weisguy78]

ya were 0 and 2 but zibby is still a pro boxer bitch..........your mom fucking sucks............my dick.

[dannymac247]

This whole argument is so asinine... a few plays later, Quinn threw an interception. So it's not like this play changed a thing. NOT A THING. MSU lost the game. Just because John L. couldn't get over doesn't mean the whole school has to be equally classless. You fired Smith... now move on from this. Sheesh.

[michiganmoon]

Charlie Weis is cheap to lie about getting slapped. I guess that is typical Notre Dame antics though.

[AFJoe25]

I think it's funny the author says ND will do anything to win a game. It is universally known that MSU gets all teh talented thugs to play football no one else wants. Seriouysly, MSU is a shithole campus, with a bunch of thugs playing for them. Seriously, NO ONE CARES ABOUT MSU...GO AWAY!!!

[acinemastare]

You're right, no one cares about MSU.

Sincerely, Tom Izzo, Mateen Cleaves, Magic Johnson, Scott Skiles, Jason Richardson, Morris Peterson, Ryan Miller, Charlie Bell, Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager.

Tell Weis to go eat another cheeseburger. He's an overrated coach who can't win a bowl game so far and was wining with the players Ty Willingham (AN MSU GRAD!!!) recruited.

Idiot.

[percmajor666]

ok so let's see... who won this game again? oh that's right it was the irish. Enough said... no argument... when you have a loser you have a winner not one loser no winner like you people were saying regading that MSU gave it to them well ND had to win or MSU couldn't lose so shut up and accept it

[Izzone09]

LMAO...No shit weis didnt lose his cool because if he did he would have a heart attack and die because hes such a fat ass. And for all those ppl out there, notre dame did nothing to win that game. Michigan State just gave it to them because they self destructed. N.D. did nothing!!

[DefLeppU4ia]

ub3xnip you cant make the argument that ND will do anything to win. first, the penalties offset. secondly, after everything is over, note how John L. Suckdick is the one losing his cool, not Weis

[MSUGoGreen]

Well, "DefLeppU4ia", FIRST, the Penalties got offset because Weis gave some crap to the Officials about him getting "slapped", my ass...Secondly, John L only lost his cool because the Officials went by Weis's word..Sounds like Charlie didn't have any faith in ND coming back

[1skinnyguiney]

hey MSU, got 11?

im reffering to national championships not assclowns. yall have plenty of those already.

[Lorddaggor]

Since 1950, Michigan State has 6

scUM has...

4

It's nice to know you won in 1905, but in terms of modern football success, you're worthless

[NOTREDAMERULES]

1skinnyguiney was referring to Notre Dame, not Michigan. But you're still right scUM sucks.

[TCJ142000]

fuck the irish!!1

[FUCCantiNDbiches]

wow unbelieveable....call the coach fat...make fun of his reprimand of coaches and complain about weis bribing the judges...what the hell were we sayin when you ignorant bitches planted your disgusting worth nothing flag in our field? what the hell is msu football? nothing, i could care less what has progressed with nd football over the last decade but that still dosent justify you loser's ignorance and whining.

[Lorddaggor]

When was the last time ND beat MSU in south bend? You probably weren't even alike.

It's the house that Rockne built, for MSU!

[SquallLionhear]

You guys are stupid to say that MSU has no class because they planted a flag after their win in 2005. Don't forget that it's Notre Dame that forgot to bring the Megaphone Trophy.

[mitnibobo]

at least he didn't slap himself.

[NaturalLife24]

John L Smith's reaction is freaking halarious!!! what a dousche. have fun getting fired

[LogDog99]

Shitty coach yes...but there is nobody in the country with less class than Charlie Weis. First off, it was a late hit by ND, then Weis lies, and a coach rips Trannon's helmet off. Weis abuses his assistants and is a fat arrogant asshole. He is a combined 2-5 against UM, MSU, USC and bowl games...plus hes fat as hell and wears a sweat-suit on the sidelines. Fuck the Irish

[weeezerguy812]

You are a shitty ass human being. Fuck you and long live the Irish.

[LogDog99]

You and you're fat ass coach can suck a cock. Notre Dame sucks, over rated and we've beaten you 5 times in a row in your house. We'll kill ya next year, you're losing everyone and your coach is enormous. Your basketball team blows, and we own your football stadium. Make sure you bring the Megaphone next year when we kick your ass. I'll be sure to bring a double quarter pounder with cheese and an extra large fry for Charlie. Fuck Notre Dame everyone hates them. Fuck Rudy too.

[ndschroede23]

Thanks for the class. People like you make me love the internet.

[LogDog99]

Look at the post above me. You know its true about Weis too.

[ndschroede23]

You say it, so it's true? (I assume you're referencing his lack of class.) I could say a lot of false stuff that remains false even after I say it.

[LogDog99]

I guess the fact that I watched him interviewed on 60 Minutes is a non-credible source? Calling an assistant a "mother-fu***ng moron" is proof enough for me. He needs to go on a diet. He's almost as enormous as his ego.

[Irishfan21]

i love notre dame, but i think that both teams should b embarassed about this

[buckeyeboy321]

trannon didnt do anything

[pycryon]

Lets not forget that there was no late hit out of bounds so we should have gotten a call totally out way, not just an offset.

[psychodrummer420]

Boo-fuckin-hoo to all of you. It's over, and nothing can change it. I couldn't believe how MSU squeeked by last year in OT, and now MSU fans can't believe that their team didn't show up for the 2nd half. Maybe if MSU wasn't so worried about planting flags and worrying who slapped who they'd be able to win a football game. Have fun being unranked the rest of the year!!!

[ryan8532]

aww, boo hoo MSU! I'm glad Illinois stuck it in Sparty's ass this year. You guys have no class, fans and players alike. It's ok for you to plant a flag in South Bend, but you have to send 3 guys to protect the S? F'ing pathetic. Grow some balls (mature a bit while you're at it)

Notre Dame has too much class to do something that stupid. Jesus, all you Michigan State folks are assclowns!

[ryan8532]

aww b-o-o h-o-o you guys lost, too f'ing bad. I'm glad that Illinois stuck it in Sparty's ass. it's pretty damn sad that 3 MSU players guarded the S at mid-field after the ND game. oh, so its okay for the Spartans to do it at South Bend but it's not okay for Notre Dame to do that in East Lansing?

Notre Dame has more class than that anyways....Christ, you MSU fans are assclowns

[ToddFarkman]

"I got slapped" said Weis.

Boo hoo, fatman. What a liar.

[rosevea1]

I cannot believe the ND coach who RIPPED AN OPPOSING TEAM PLAYER'S HELMET OFF received no discipline. Ridiculous.

[ekmj]

uh okay msu players didnt "charge" then bench they went over to get their own player. theres a big difference there and you can see in the video that the notre dame player started shit. and charlie weis didnt get slapped. trannon didnt do anything the stupid notre dame coach pulled him down if you actually watch it.

[drzlecuti]

What is the norm on a play out of bounds? Players get up, go back onto the playing field. What happened here? MSU players charge into the ND bench; Trannon gets in Ndukwe's face. Bad attitude, poor discipline, flowing from the top down. Instead of having a pen alty in their favor, they had to be MACHO men on the sideline. Guess what--that's not where or how you win a football game.

[bigblue0202jw]

No class!

[blacksabfan]

I guess blowing a 16 point lead with 8 mins left in 4th quarter had nothing to do with Michigan State losing, only this one call...

Oh, and Trannon attacking the ND bench had nothing to do with the offsetting penalties either...

Face it, Michigan State imploded like they always do in big games...lets see Michigan/Michigan State two years ago, then Ohio State/Michigan State last year. Next year you'll have a new game to whine about.

[brihamlin]

Didn't they beat ND in OT last year

[Irishfan21]

yea, they did msu was also stupid and put their flag on the field after they won, so after they lost this year, they stood on the 50-yard line so notre dame wouldnt put the flag on the field but notre dame is not that stupid