it boggles the mind why this issue has been sidestepped by all in authority, from the Senate, the House, the Electoral College, the Supreme Court, and all the other courts around the country where lawsuits have been filed, to the dastardly Democratic National Party itself.
The place of birth is beside the point, obviously.
What are you talking about? What exactly are your proposals to getting "back on track," as they say?
An end to the nuclear regulatory commission and the privatization of roads? How about total anarcho-capitalism, with absolutely no law, taxes, or tarifs on business/market affairs? Or merely just getting rid of the fed, implementing a flat tax, and abolishing the capital gains tax?
What about a totalitarian regime? One way, one voice... break a law, and your sentence is death?
@noliesundead You have no clue what you are talking about as most liberals don't... His dad being a citizen of Kenya (under GB) makes obama a dual citizen right off the top
@NCTruthSeeker no. his dad under the great Britain gave him the option to gain British citizenship if his dad ever register his birth to the English authorities, he never did so he never had it. and can't have kenyan citizenship since kenyan was not a independent country at the time of his birth.
and under the supreme court case US v Low Hong, the child's parents status have no bearing on theirs. as long as the child is born on us soil they are natural born citizens
I suppose that depends on what you mean by the Constitution having a statute of limitations. If you mean an expiration date for the Articles and Amendments themselves, well of course not. If you mean for an injury that involves some sort of Constitutional right or provision, then yes of course there is a statute of limitations. Unless there is an explicit statute that suspends the SoL for a particular kind of injury or it is tolled in a particular instance, there is always an SoL. Always.
This is a TRUE test of Americans and the Constitution so many in power are trying to destroy. I've always felt Obama had NO BOND to this country..NONE! But McCAin that's a tough one. WE CANNOT let go of this issue. To do so would be to throw the last shovel of dirt on the caskets of the Constitution, and spit in the eye of our founding fathers and all the men and women who have given their all for the USA from the Revolution on!
Well then come on brother and storm the tyranny of the fraudulent propigating muslims' gates! We need to take back this country by shooting 'em all, 'cause voting don't work no more!
Do you understand that a flat tax is (arguably, of course) one of the most idiotic things ever to be suggested, let alone implemented, by a government in the history of space time?
Look at the countries that have a flat tax. They all suck... a lot.
We've got a dynamo of a woman fighting for our Constitution: the attorney Dr. Orly Taitz, who made a special trip out to Idaho 3/13 to confront Chief Justice Roberts, and wow did she. (see wnd for details)
It is amazing to me that there isn't anyone brave enough to take this on in the supreme court. We have totally sold out our countr y if every senate seat has a price. This isn't what the founding fathers had in mind. We wil be destroyed from within, if there is no one with enough character to stand up for the constitution.
Obama does not deny that his Father was not a Citizen of the USA.
The following never have been citizens of the USA:
Leader of Iraq Saddam Hussein
Emperor (Shah) Mohammad Reza Pahlavi of Iran
The head of terrorist network al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden
Venezuelas left-wing President, Hugo Chavez
Under the Obama plan if any of the above Fathered a child over 35 years ago and born as a USA citizen the child is eligible to become President of the United States.
unfortunately, when he became an Indonesian citizen, he was automatically stripped of his US citizenship. The fact that the paperwork was never done is moot.
I think natural born is like virginity; once gone, gone!
So, not only is he a traitor to America, assuming he regained his citizenship, he is a usurper.
No it didn't. The case was about citizenship, not "natural born" citizenship, and they cited English Common law as the precedent of deciding (essentially every form of) citizenship... and as the concept of being a "natural born citizen" is merely a subset of being a "citizen," the decision ruled that you're a natural born citizen if you're born in the US... just like the 2 lower court decisions before that case!
If Saddam Hussein became Obamas Father (by a United States woman-US citizen) while he was visiting the United States when he was near 20years old and Obama was born in the United States with Saddam Hussein listed as Father (a citizen of Iraq) on Obamas Birth Certifacate and the Mother is a citizen of the United states, then most can agree that Obama would be a citizen of the united states.
Public Law 110-430 changed the date of the electoral vote in Congress in 2009 from January 6 to January 8. This date change is effective only for the 2008 presidential election.
Date for Determination of Controversy as to Appointment of Electors
States must make final determinations of any controversies or contests as to the appointment of electors at least six days before December 15 meetings of electors for their electoral votes to be presumptively valid when presented to Congress. Determinations by States' lawful tribunals are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted prior to election day.
One should not assume that anyone enraged at Obama's ineligibility for POTUS, or his evasiveness and lack of transparency on the matter, is to be automatically labeled a "right-wing-nut"; NOR that all so-called "leftists" are so in-the-tank for him that they can't perceive the possibility of a staggering fraud and injustice to be in play against the American people upon his inauguration. A lifelong Democrat, my party shifted focus from humanity to power, then committed suicide. Very sad...to go.
krownick, I answered you on all 3 of your last comments, off shore birth, lost his kenyan citizenship @ 21, no place NBC defined in constitution. So all can see my short answer to these I answer here again. Constitutional law is based on the ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE FRAMERS, that is the Supreme Courts job, and the intent of the framers is very clear, do some home work. one of them is in the script above in the video John Jay read what he says.
McShame is a disgrace. Obama is not a citizen of the United States. Our forfathers are rolling in their graves. All of members of congress the senate should be expelled immediatly. A legal president should be elected that has the best interest of this country and this country only. This country sucks!
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the United States or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of jus soli. Certain individuals born in the United States, such as children of foreign heads of state or children of foreign diplomats, do not obtain U.S. citizenship under jus soli. Obama is jus soli making him a natural born citizen. McCain was jus sanguinis and needed both parents to be citizens to be natural born
Wow, you steped in it here my man, ah huh, do you know who is considered to be the father of the 14th amendment? I do, Rep.John Bingham of Ohio, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on cival rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866: (I) find no fault with the introductory clause (S 61 Bill), which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being BORN WITHIN THE
JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF PARENTS (plural)NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN(British)SOVEREIGNTY is, IN THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR CONSTITUTION ITSELF, A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN". So there goes your 14th amendment argument for Obama being eligible to the office of POTUS! but I will give you a PENNY for that thought!
TBH he has not. But he has spent $800,000.00 keeping it from any courts. A former US Atty (democrat) is the one who filed the last petition to the USSC. It need to be heard, if it is later found that this is indeed a real issue any thing Obama does is null and void.
Mistergarth, Have you seen the birth certificate ? Have you spoke to the officials in Hawaii ?
I thought not. You need to sit back & watch reality unfold in front of your face.
As we know the law. We continue to try to educate the public to what is true.
mistergarth. If you choose to use the same fake birth certificate that has been used by Snopes, please tell the Supreme Court that its real because 1.3 million of us contacted them saying its not.
I've seen the same scanned one that everyone else has. The same one the anonymous "experts" have deemed fake. The same one that the State of Hawaii recognizes as real. Spare me the lecture on "Certificate of Live Birth" vs. "Birth Certificate". Regardless of how many people sign a petition objective reality and the law remain unchanged.
Obama was born in Hawaii. All it takes to establish native born citizenship is to be born in the USA. End of discussion.
BINGO, one of you finaly steped in the shit of your own argument."All it takes to establish native born citizenship is to be born in the USA. End of discussion." notice the word,your word I might add,NATIVE. See, that is not what it takes to hpld the office of POTUS under Art.2Sec.1 of the Constitution, go back and read it, it says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. You just said it yourself, Obama is not eligible, a usurper, and the light goes on for anouther obot, we have a winner!
Now look up the etymology of "natural": from the Latin 'natura' from 'natus', meaning birth. Same as 'native'. There is no distinction in U.S. law between native born and natural born.
The people filing dozens of lawsuits and always losing -- ever case, every appeal, 100% failure -- are probably not your best source for legal interpretation.
brygennon, your asertion that US law has no destinction between NATIVE born and NATURAL born is completely wrong. There are more, but will give you two Supreme Court cases. U.S. v/s Wong Kim Ark 169US649(1898) two domicile chineese parent live in US and have a child, Justice Gray in concluding opinion discusses natural born but confers NATIVE Born on Wong Kim Ark. That is a difference from NATURAL BORN! A DISTINCTION !
Sounds like you have not actually read the decision.
"The American citizenship which Wong Kim Ark acquired by birth within the United States has not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth."
Now show me where it says this citizenship is native born but not natural born.
Sounds like you need to reread it and this time understand what it says, the Justice Gray does discuss what a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is, but you show me where in his statement does he in any way make that leap in reguards to Wong Kim Ark and had that been his intent, tell me why in conclusion does he state clearly that Wong is a NATIVE BORN, not naturalborn?? clean your glasses this time
Oh, and by the way did you know that in 1981 Barry Soetoro (AKA, Barak Obama)recieved foreign exchange student aid from the State of California, Imagine that a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN recieving foreign exchange student aid ???
"did you know that in 1981 Barry Soetoro (AKA, Barak Obama)recieved foreign exchange student aid"
If you're going to spread the rumors, at least state them as told. The kook accusation is that he received aid as a foreign student. A foreign *exchange* student is something else.
"brygenon, you are right sir, 'The decision does *not* say Wong Kim Ark is not natural born.' It states he is NATIVE born."
Yes, of course. To prove me wrong, you had only to show one single case in which the high court ruled anyone to be both native born and not natural born. How clever was I know that you would find no such case? How bold was I to set myself up for such a straightforward refutation?
Not very. A few minutes Googling showed you doomed from the start. There is no serious issue.
brygenon, 2nd Supreme Court Case, Perkins v/s Elg 307US325 (1939) Two Swedish parents imigrate to us and naturalize ,then have a child on U.S. soil,later they all return to Sweden and before the age of majority the child returns to the U.S. to further education.The child never renounced U.S. citizenship. concluding opinion was that a minor child born on U.S. soil of two U.S. Citizens (naturalized before the birth) was at birth a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN,and retained NATURAL BORN upon return.
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zzzzzzz... another wingut babbling about Obama's "eligibility". Obama's birth in Hawaii has been well documented. Let's debate something legitimately controversial instead.
After eight years of blindly following the commander in thief, the wingnuts are now calling the guy who won 53% of the vote a "usurper". Precious.
I have seen much more then your eyes will ever see mistergarth. Get off the bandwagon & join us in this fight against this illigetimate usurper & I will even help feed you when the time comes that your forced to take a chip (the mark of the beast) to eat.
Honestly, your kept in the dark because of the media blackout on this matter. I really do not blame you or your hopes.
There is much more going on besides a petition. 1.3 million letters signed & sent to Supreme Court to start. & much more.
My confidants, Frank Marshall Davis (comunist), Kalid Al Monsour (Arab Finacier), William Ayers (domestic terrorist), Bernadette Dorn (domestic terrorist), Rev. Jeramiah Wright (anti-American racist), Louis Farrahkan (seperatist racist), Rashid Kalidi (PLO terrorist spoksman),Riela Odinga(cousin,muslim,racist,murderer), Tony Rezko (slum lord and felon),Michelle Obama (anti American),Rahm (mail a dead fish)Imanuel,ACCORN (voter fraud activities),Hillary Clinton (usurper,Art 1 Sec 6 paragraph 2),
These anti-Obama nutjobs are so funny. These psuedo-legal arguments based on on interpretations of 200 year old court decisions are nonsense. You had you ass handed to you on 4 November, that's a fact. Get over it losers.
jsteel, nothing has been handed to us. If you knew law, Obama is nobody today. If congress does not ok the Electorol votes, he remains to be just another moron like you.
Im not going to bother to reply individually to obamabot comments...but I will say this to them all.....How about you try and win an argument without having to call people racist's hmmm??? I mean, you can't all be that stupid to believe that Obama has released his original birth certificate can you? And you can't all be thick as bricks when it comes to who has claim on new born children when it comes to England and America...but hey, I might be wrong! Maybe you all ARE that STUPID after all!
first you say "How about you try and win an argument without having to call people racist's" then you call people stupid.. LMAO@YOU how about you try looking in the mirror and using common sense.
FYI: You have not said one thing that is true to even argue, you made claims about losing citizenship by marriage which is a lie. No U.S. law says anything about losing citizenship do to marriage.
SpookyR, sorry that it is your world that is falling apart, it is expressed in your anger, and inability to see real law through your delusional Obama induced stupor. Your stuck on race and it is killing you that your "Hero" is a usurper and will be exposed as such , bringing great shame and embarassment to a good people and race, oh except Obama is not a black man, he is from a white womb,or did you not know that either?
Just for the record, again real law, there are four types of citizenship defined within the law. 1-"naturalized", any person born, anywhere of any nationality parents,that denounces any foreign loyalty, and takes an oath of allegiance to the United States. 2-Dual national "Native" born citizen,Born on U.S.soil of two parents of any nationality. 3-U.S. citizen by "Statute"(look it up,what McCain is) 4-"NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" born on U.S. soil of TWO(2)American citizens.
"4-"NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" born on U.S. soil of TWO(2)American citizens"
no place in any U.S law state that, in fact please show me that law.. oh wait YOU CAN'T you quote blogs YOU FOOL.. Only a child born off U.S soil needs TWO(2)American citizens to be "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" thats why Mcain could run not your BS "citizen by Statute" lmao now go study little fly.
Hey Einstein, if McCain was only a U.S. citizen by Statute he could never run as the Constitution is clear..
You are absolutly right McCain could not run and neither could Obama, that is the lie now isn't it! Senate resolution 511 is not law just a worthless opinion, and if they tried to pass that as a law it would have been shot down by the SCORUS that is exactly why they didn't even try , sorry again, so try anouther argument scholar!
Krownick, If you are an Obama suporter, I'm sure you have visited his web site and seen that he himself has posted that at his birth, his citizenship was governed by the 1948 British nationality act, and at birth was both a British Subject, and a US citizen. Quote law to me? He at birth was a "dual national NATIVE born citizen" and that IS the law, and Obama admits it himself. Youshow me one counter law and Ill show you more, but you can't! Or prove me wrong. LOL
First obama lost British citizenship at the age of 3 when Kenya gained it's Independence, he gained Kenya citizenship by virtue, Kenya Constitution does not allow dual citizenship for adult so Obama lost it when he turned 21. Besides the fact no where in U.S. LAWS or the Constitution does it say a Prsident couldn't have held dual citizenship. Quote law to me? LMAO
I must lol at you, you keep claiming laws yet have not shown one proving Obama not a natural born citizen.. shoo little fly
Krownick, I see you,like most of the followers of "The One", like to argue on the letter of the law and know absolutely nothing of the law! Please be so kind as to direct me to where exactly in any law does it proclaim Mr.Obama a "natural Born Citizen". You can't because it just doesn't, and that sir is the fact. You people want him to be pres so bad that you overlook the law and that also is the fact. I on the other hand can show you at least 10 legal references, show me ONE, or learn, study!
I don't see how I was being a racist, but anyway, you have it wrong. Go and have a look and you're declaration of independance and the laws of nations.....lol! You should think about who you call racists too....I am more races than you I bet. I have at least 6 races to call myself.......what about you?
SpookyR, it is a shame that your only argument is that you sir are ignorant, of both the constitution, and that to allow the government officials, which hold office at our descretion, to shape the very laws witch give us the citizens our rights and freedoms, is to become a servent of the servents. I sir will not allow that to happen to me or the rest of my fellow citizens as long as I have breath. I do this for all Americans including the poor ignorant, uneducated citizens such as yourself.
Mate, the fact that Obama's parents were MARRIED means NEITHER Obama's mother OR Obama himself were American citizens at the time of his birth. The woman who marries the man takes the man's citizenship, not the other way around. Having now proven that Obama's parents were indeed married, it should be known that obama was born a BRITISH citizen PROPER, and then later a citizen PROPER of Kenya! Figured you should know that mate. Obama was NOT born American AT ALL!
I listed below the law codes for the ONLY way to lose your U.S. Citizen. Go pedal your snake oil to someone not educated on U.S. Citizenship. NOW GO LOOK IT UP INSTEAD OF SPREADING LIES..
badnetprac, you are right.. But the US made provisions, that when an American woman marries a foreigner, she becomes a citizen of his country, but after death of the husband or a legal divorce she reverts back to an American citizen as long as it is with in one year of the divorce..A Treatise on the Law of Naturalization of the United States ..1907Believe me I wish it were not true...I still believe he(nObama) is not an american citizen. citizen..
I don't think those provisions covered her marrying an Englishman. Marrying an Englishman was kind of like spitting on the flag after the battle for independence, wouldn't you agree?
Gee, so many flaws in your comment. first) England is are number #1 ALLY, try catching up with the times. two) Ones opinion is not a law, so what does it matter if YOU think it's "spitting on the flag" DOESN'T MAKE IT SO, that just your opinion. Three) marrying some one from another country is not spitting on the flag, do you even understand this country is made up with people from all over the world.
It sounds to me that you real don't understand the topic or what this country stands for.
Listen, I am sure that the FBI, CIA, NSA is fully aware of Obama's birth place and the truth of his inelgibility for the position of President. What can we do, as citizens, when our agenices, employed to protect this country, do nothing...
Drav1212, exactly what is being done here call them into the light and expose there corution, or stand silent and blame others. Stand up and fight, it is your right!
SpookeyR, why is that people like you try to make every legal matter that involves a man of color, a matter of race. Race has nothing to do with this matter, in fact this matter started with McCain and what the Senate tried to do for him, then the matter of Obama arose out of that bending of the constitution. It is people like you that let O.J. Simpson, walk away free with decapitating one woman and repeatedly stabing a man to death. Tell me about racism. You appear to be the racist. FOOL!
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To all the ppl that think that racism is patriotism...
You just can't get over the reality that a person of color, a black man, is going to be President of the United States. Your world is crumbling, isn't it!??
I think McCain's role was much more innocent than Obama's. I think he allowed himself to be persuaded he was eligible, and really thought he would win. He was confused about the legalities and did not properly research the matter.
But the speaker here, Hamblin, is absolutely correct. This is a very well-written exhortation for McCain to do the right thing. He has nothing to lose and everything to regain both for himself and for America. History will then be kind to him, to say the least!
Let's hope there are millions true Americans like you, and they will come out and voice, united on this, with necessary force , once word will spread against the will of MSM.
it boggles the mind why this issue has been sidestepped by all in authority, from the Senate, the House, the Electoral College, the Supreme Court, and all the other courts around the country where lawsuits have been filed, to the dastardly Democratic National Party itself.
The place of birth is beside the point, obviously.
ReneODeay 7 months ago
What are you talking about? What exactly are your proposals to getting "back on track," as they say?
An end to the nuclear regulatory commission and the privatization of roads? How about total anarcho-capitalism, with absolutely no law, taxes, or tarifs on business/market affairs? Or merely just getting rid of the fed, implementing a flat tax, and abolishing the capital gains tax?
What about a totalitarian regime? One way, one voice... break a law, and your sentence is death?
All good...
bpa619 6 months ago
But how about was he adopted by his indonesian stepfather, that would make him indonesian? or kenyan or british but mostly NOT american
WELLBRAN 9 months ago
@WELLBRAN he was never adopted.
noliesundead 8 months ago
Born in the U.S. may define who is a citizen but it does not always define who is a natural born citizen.
How can a person born as a dual national be defined as a natural born citizen?
They can't.
thalightguy 9 months ago
@thalightguy well obama was never a dual-citizen so whats the problem?
noliesundead 8 months ago
@noliesundead You have no clue what you are talking about as most liberals don't... His dad being a citizen of Kenya (under GB) makes obama a dual citizen right off the top
NCTruthSeeker 8 months ago
@NCTruthSeeker no. his dad under the great Britain gave him the option to gain British citizenship if his dad ever register his birth to the English authorities, he never did so he never had it. and can't have kenyan citizenship since kenyan was not a independent country at the time of his birth.
and under the supreme court case US v Low Hong, the child's parents status have no bearing on theirs. as long as the child is born on us soil they are natural born citizens
noliesundead 8 months ago
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thumbs up if you think obama is a citizen.
54chester 1 year ago
My god thank you sir! I would vote for you if you ran for office. Maybe obama can appoint you to be the truth czar! LoL
SurvivalWithBushcraf 1 year ago
And it isn't going away.
Nice vid.
5*
DABIGRAGU1 2 years ago
I suppose that depends on what you mean by the Constitution having a statute of limitations. If you mean an expiration date for the Articles and Amendments themselves, well of course not. If you mean for an injury that involves some sort of Constitutional right or provision, then yes of course there is a statute of limitations. Unless there is an explicit statute that suspends the SoL for a particular kind of injury or it is tolled in a particular instance, there is always an SoL. Always.
jdlund 2 years ago
This is a TRUE test of Americans and the Constitution so many in power are trying to destroy. I've always felt Obama had NO BOND to this country..NONE! But McCAin that's a tough one. WE CANNOT let go of this issue. To do so would be to throw the last shovel of dirt on the caskets of the Constitution, and spit in the eye of our founding fathers and all the men and women who have given their all for the USA from the Revolution on!
valeryane1 2 years ago
Over 100 days now & he is still not a president.
By 2010 we will be rid of him, the GOP & all democrats as well.
Every treasonist involved in this farce will be history.
slumpkin1963 2 years ago
How'd this work out?
bpa619 8 months ago
@bpa619 over 400 lawsuits have been thrown out. The communists are winning so far but we are very well armed.
slumpkin1963 8 months ago
Communists?!
Well then come on brother and storm the tyranny of the fraudulent propigating muslims' gates! We need to take back this country by shooting 'em all, 'cause voting don't work no more!
Do you understand that a flat tax is (arguably, of course) one of the most idiotic things ever to be suggested, let alone implemented, by a government in the history of space time?
Look at the countries that have a flat tax. They all suck... a lot.
bpa619 8 months ago
{salute} Thank you for your service to the country!
Great video thanks for sharing with us!
rachelabombdotcom 2 years ago
Awesome Job Sir.
You are a True American. Very admirable.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Freddy.
moonbase73 2 years ago
Good JOB! Thank you.
AmericaGreatAmerica 2 years ago
This man, my friend Clark, has now takin some more action here in Arizona. :)
slumpkin1963 2 years ago
WOW! could you imagine if we had more men with the guts of this man!
BRAVO SIR!! I applaud you!
1barheart 3 years ago
We've got a dynamo of a woman fighting for our Constitution: the attorney Dr. Orly Taitz, who made a special trip out to Idaho 3/13 to confront Chief Justice Roberts, and wow did she. (see wnd for details)
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
It's like flying a plane, without a pilots license...We'll Crash !!!!!
hartsy50 3 years ago
It is amazing to me that there isn't anyone brave enough to take this on in the supreme court. We have totally sold out our countr y if every senate seat has a price. This isn't what the founding fathers had in mind. We wil be destroyed from within, if there is no one with enough character to stand up for the constitution.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Obama does not deny that his Father was not a Citizen of the USA.
The following never have been citizens of the USA:
Leader of Iraq Saddam Hussein
Emperor (Shah) Mohammad Reza Pahlavi of Iran
The head of terrorist network al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden
Venezuelas left-wing President, Hugo Chavez
Under the Obama plan if any of the above Fathered a child over 35 years ago and born as a USA citizen the child is eligible to become President of the United States.
Is this realy "NBC"?
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
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unfortunately, when he became an Indonesian citizen, he was automatically stripped of his US citizenship. The fact that the paperwork was never done is moot.
I think natural born is like virginity; once gone, gone!
So, not only is he a traitor to America, assuming he regained his citizenship, he is a usurper.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
@hogwildlou69 No. The Wong Kim Ark decision denied natural-born citizenship for the American-born children of foreign diplomats and heads of state.
Nice try, though...
DoubleTalkingJive 8 months ago
No it didn't. The case was about citizenship, not "natural born" citizenship, and they cited English Common law as the precedent of deciding (essentially every form of) citizenship... and as the concept of being a "natural born citizen" is merely a subset of being a "citizen," the decision ruled that you're a natural born citizen if you're born in the US... just like the 2 lower court decisions before that case!
Neat!!!
You people know shit about everything.
bpa619 8 months ago
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@bpa619 "The decision ruled that you're a natural born citizen if you're born in the US". My point exactly. Thanks for making it for me.
That's why Obama's eligible to be President. :-p
DoubleTalkingJive 8 months ago
If Saddam Hussein became Obamas Father (by a United States woman-US citizen) while he was visiting the United States when he was near 20years old and Obama was born in the United States with Saddam Hussein listed as Father (a citizen of Iraq) on Obamas Birth Certifacate and the Mother is a citizen of the United states, then most can agree that Obama would be a citizen of the united states.
Would Obama be a "Natural Born Citizen"?
Would he be eligible to become President?
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
Obama, a child of Saddam Hussein could become president at age 35 under our Constitution.
Saddam Hussein being Obamas Father would be 55years old and a leader of a foreign country.
The proof is in Obamas own words of his Father not being a citizen of the United States at the time of his Birth!
Would a person be a "natural born citizen" by having a Father proven not to be a citizen at the time of birth?
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
Great video. Great man. Thank you for your service both then and NOW. God bless you. Take care:)
chattingcat 3 years ago
January 8, 2009
Counting Electoral Votes in Congress
Public Law 110-430 changed the date of the electoral vote in Congress in 2009 from January 6 to January 8. This date change is effective only for the 2008 presidential election.
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
December 9, 2008
Date for Determination of Controversy as to Appointment of Electors
States must make final determinations of any controversies or contests as to the appointment of electors at least six days before December 15 meetings of electors for their electoral votes to be presumptively valid when presented to Congress. Determinations by States' lawful tribunals are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted prior to election day.
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
Does anyone know of any plans that are in place to block the votes from being counted tomorrow???
I don't understand how come any citizen of the united states wouldn't want to know the truth no matter what?
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
This may be a good thing that Obama chose not to be transparent as he said he would.
We now have more lawyers than ever, why waste time on the blogs and go get an office.
We no longer need courts, the blogs rule....
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
One should not assume that anyone enraged at Obama's ineligibility for POTUS, or his evasiveness and lack of transparency on the matter, is to be automatically labeled a "right-wing-nut"; NOR that all so-called "leftists" are so in-the-tank for him that they can't perceive the possibility of a staggering fraud and injustice to be in play against the American people upon his inauguration. A lifelong Democrat, my party shifted focus from humanity to power, then committed suicide. Very sad...to go.
wotsgnu 3 years ago
How come there are so many that don't want transparency concerning a candidate for the highest position in our country?
Obama chose to protect his files and not be transparent as he promised.
We have a Constitution and a Supreme court that has a duty to uphold OUR Constitution.
We shouldn't be arguing Law, the court has a responsibility to assure that "We the People" are heard by the court.
Politics and public opinion needs to take a back seat. The rule of law needs to prevail for Justice.
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
Thank you sir for recording this, and thank you thalightguy posting this....
Thanks for the share Bethea....
Lefties just don't get it no matter how hard anyone tries.
Cameltoeguy 3 years ago
krownick, I answered you on all 3 of your last comments, off shore birth, lost his kenyan citizenship @ 21, no place NBC defined in constitution. So all can see my short answer to these I answer here again. Constitutional law is based on the ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE FRAMERS, that is the Supreme Courts job, and the intent of the framers is very clear, do some home work. one of them is in the script above in the video John Jay read what he says.
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
McShame is a disgrace. Obama is not a citizen of the United States. Our forfathers are rolling in their graves. All of members of congress the senate should be expelled immediatly. A legal president should be elected that has the best interest of this country and this country only. This country sucks!
micsc50 3 years ago
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the United States or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of jus soli. Certain individuals born in the United States, such as children of foreign heads of state or children of foreign diplomats, do not obtain U.S. citizenship under jus soli. Obama is jus soli making him a natural born citizen. McCain was jus sanguinis and needed both parents to be citizens to be natural born
krownick 3 years ago
Wow, you steped in it here my man, ah huh, do you know who is considered to be the father of the 14th amendment? I do, Rep.John Bingham of Ohio, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on cival rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866: (I) find no fault with the introductory clause (S 61 Bill), which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being BORN WITHIN THE
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF PARENTS (plural)NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN(British)SOVEREIGNTY is, IN THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR CONSTITUTION ITSELF, A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN". So there goes your 14th amendment argument for Obama being eligible to the office of POTUS! but I will give you a PENNY for that thought!
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
What a sore luzr. LUUUUUUUUZZZZRRRRRRRRRRR!
y2knoproblem 3 years ago
DEMAND Obama produce his birth certificate..
Dewdaahman 3 years ago
"DEMAND Obama produce his birth certificate.."
He already has. The phony "experts" aren't. This is a non-issue. Give it up already.
mistergarth 3 years ago
TBH he has not. But he has spent $800,000.00 keeping it from any courts. A former US Atty (democrat) is the one who filed the last petition to the USSC. It need to be heard, if it is later found that this is indeed a real issue any thing Obama does is null and void.
themunz126 3 years ago
How come Obama doesn't step forward and be transparent or did he lie about being transparent?
We the people deserve to know the truth of his eligibility. Evidently something is being hidden. WHY?
I am of no political party, i beleive in our constitution and the rule of law with justice for all.
State the facts, show the proof regardless of popular opinion and lets move on.
The corruption in our Government needs to END.
The Courts need to start prosecuting the evil in high places.
hogwildlou69 3 years ago
Mistergarth, Have you seen the birth certificate ? Have you spoke to the officials in Hawaii ?
I thought not. You need to sit back & watch reality unfold in front of your face.
As we know the law. We continue to try to educate the public to what is true.
mistergarth. If you choose to use the same fake birth certificate that has been used by Snopes, please tell the Supreme Court that its real because 1.3 million of us contacted them saying its not.
slumpkin1963 3 years ago
"Have you seen the birth certificate ?"
I've seen the same scanned one that everyone else has. The same one the anonymous "experts" have deemed fake. The same one that the State of Hawaii recognizes as real. Spare me the lecture on "Certificate of Live Birth" vs. "Birth Certificate". Regardless of how many people sign a petition objective reality and the law remain unchanged.
Obama was born in Hawaii. All it takes to establish native born citizenship is to be born in the USA. End of discussion.
mistergarth 3 years ago
BINGO, one of you finaly steped in the shit of your own argument."All it takes to establish native born citizenship is to be born in the USA. End of discussion." notice the word,your word I might add,NATIVE. See, that is not what it takes to hpld the office of POTUS under Art.2Sec.1 of the Constitution, go back and read it, it says NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. You just said it yourself, Obama is not eligible, a usurper, and the light goes on for anouther obot, we have a winner!
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Now look up the etymology of "natural": from the Latin 'natura' from 'natus', meaning birth. Same as 'native'. There is no distinction in U.S. law between native born and natural born.
The people filing dozens of lawsuits and always losing -- ever case, every appeal, 100% failure -- are probably not your best source for legal interpretation.
brygenon 3 years ago 2
brygennon, your asertion that US law has no destinction between NATIVE born and NATURAL born is completely wrong. There are more, but will give you two Supreme Court cases. U.S. v/s Wong Kim Ark 169US649(1898) two domicile chineese parent live in US and have a child, Justice Gray in concluding opinion discusses natural born but confers NATIVE Born on Wong Kim Ark. That is a difference from NATURAL BORN! A DISTINCTION !
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Sounds like you have not actually read the decision.
"The American citizenship which Wong Kim Ark acquired by birth within the United States has not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth."
Now show me where it says this citizenship is native born but not natural born.
brygenon 3 years ago
Sounds like you need to reread it and this time understand what it says, the Justice Gray does discuss what a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is, but you show me where in his statement does he in any way make that leap in reguards to Wong Kim Ark and had that been his intent, tell me why in conclusion does he state clearly that Wong is a NATIVE BORN, not naturalborn?? clean your glasses this time
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Oh, and by the way did you know that in 1981 Barry Soetoro (AKA, Barak Obama)recieved foreign exchange student aid from the State of California, Imagine that a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN recieving foreign exchange student aid ???
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
"did you know that in 1981 Barry Soetoro (AKA, Barak Obama)recieved foreign exchange student aid"
If you're going to spread the rumors, at least state them as told. The kook accusation is that he received aid as a foreign student. A foreign *exchange* student is something else.
brygenon 3 years ago 2
"tell me why in conclusion does he state clearly that Wong is a NATIVE BORN, not naturalborn??"
The decision does *not* say Wong Kim Ark is not natural born. You, whodatpunk4, may say that, but in point of fact the Supreme Court did not.
brygenon 3 years ago
brygenon, you are right sir, "The decision does *not* say Wong Kim Ark is not natural born." It states he is NATIVE born.
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
"brygenon, you are right sir, 'The decision does *not* say Wong Kim Ark is not natural born.' It states he is NATIVE born."
Yes, of course. To prove me wrong, you had only to show one single case in which the high court ruled anyone to be both native born and not natural born. How clever was I know that you would find no such case? How bold was I to set myself up for such a straightforward refutation?
Not very. A few minutes Googling showed you doomed from the start. There is no serious issue.
brygenon 3 years ago
brygenon, 2nd Supreme Court Case, Perkins v/s Elg 307US325 (1939) Two Swedish parents imigrate to us and naturalize ,then have a child on U.S. soil,later they all return to Sweden and before the age of majority the child returns to the U.S. to further education.The child never renounced U.S. citizenship. concluding opinion was that a minor child born on U.S. soil of two U.S. Citizens (naturalized before the birth) was at birth a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN,and retained NATURAL BORN upon return.
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
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zzzzzzz... another wingut babbling about Obama's "eligibility". Obama's birth in Hawaii has been well documented. Let's debate something legitimately controversial instead.
After eight years of blindly following the commander in thief, the wingnuts are now calling the guy who won 53% of the vote a "usurper". Precious.
mistergarth 3 years ago
I have seen much more then your eyes will ever see mistergarth. Get off the bandwagon & join us in this fight against this illigetimate usurper & I will even help feed you when the time comes that your forced to take a chip (the mark of the beast) to eat.
Honestly, your kept in the dark because of the media blackout on this matter. I really do not blame you or your hopes.
There is much more going on besides a petition. 1.3 million letters signed & sent to Supreme Court to start. & much more.
slumpkin1963 3 years ago
My confidants, Frank Marshall Davis (comunist), Kalid Al Monsour (Arab Finacier), William Ayers (domestic terrorist), Bernadette Dorn (domestic terrorist), Rev. Jeramiah Wright (anti-American racist), Louis Farrahkan (seperatist racist), Rashid Kalidi (PLO terrorist spoksman),Riela Odinga(cousin,muslim,racist,murderer), Tony Rezko (slum lord and felon),Michelle Obama (anti American),Rahm (mail a dead fish)Imanuel,ACCORN (voter fraud activities),Hillary Clinton (usurper,Art 1 Sec 6 paragraph 2),
whodatpunk4 3 years ago 3
These anti-Obama nutjobs are so funny. These psuedo-legal arguments based on on interpretations of 200 year old court decisions are nonsense. You had you ass handed to you on 4 November, that's a fact. Get over it losers.
jsteel42 3 years ago
jsteel, nothing has been handed to us. If you knew law, Obama is nobody today. If congress does not ok the Electorol votes, he remains to be just another moron like you.
slumpkin1963 3 years ago
You guys just DON'T give up do ya....LOL.
If this was NOT BS, something would be being done about it! McShame would have been all over this.....Well DUH!!!
You Republicant's, just can't get over the fact, that you LOST the election!
After 8 years of Booosh and Co., you still want more?
The party come the 20th, is NOT just for Obama...think about it!
1hitu 3 years ago
Im not going to bother to reply individually to obamabot comments...but I will say this to them all.....How about you try and win an argument without having to call people racist's hmmm??? I mean, you can't all be that stupid to believe that Obama has released his original birth certificate can you? And you can't all be thick as bricks when it comes to who has claim on new born children when it comes to England and America...but hey, I might be wrong! Maybe you all ARE that STUPID after all!
badnetprac 3 years ago
first you say "How about you try and win an argument without having to call people racist's" then you call people stupid.. LMAO@YOU how about you try looking in the mirror and using common sense.
FYI: You have not said one thing that is true to even argue, you made claims about losing citizenship by marriage which is a lie. No U.S. law says anything about losing citizenship do to marriage.
krownick 3 years ago
SpookyR, sorry that it is your world that is falling apart, it is expressed in your anger, and inability to see real law through your delusional Obama induced stupor. Your stuck on race and it is killing you that your "Hero" is a usurper and will be exposed as such , bringing great shame and embarassment to a good people and race, oh except Obama is not a black man, he is from a white womb,or did you not know that either?
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Just for the record, again real law, there are four types of citizenship defined within the law. 1-"naturalized", any person born, anywhere of any nationality parents,that denounces any foreign loyalty, and takes an oath of allegiance to the United States. 2-Dual national "Native" born citizen,Born on U.S.soil of two parents of any nationality. 3-U.S. citizen by "Statute"(look it up,what McCain is) 4-"NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" born on U.S. soil of TWO(2)American citizens.
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
"4-"NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" born on U.S. soil of TWO(2)American citizens"
no place in any U.S law state that, in fact please show me that law.. oh wait YOU CAN'T you quote blogs YOU FOOL.. Only a child born off U.S soil needs TWO(2)American citizens to be "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" thats why Mcain could run not your BS "citizen by Statute" lmao now go study little fly.
Hey Einstein, if McCain was only a U.S. citizen by Statute he could never run as the Constitution is clear..
krownick 3 years ago
You are absolutly right McCain could not run and neither could Obama, that is the lie now isn't it! Senate resolution 511 is not law just a worthless opinion, and if they tried to pass that as a law it would have been shot down by the SCORUS that is exactly why they didn't even try , sorry again, so try anouther argument scholar!
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Krownick, If you are an Obama suporter, I'm sure you have visited his web site and seen that he himself has posted that at his birth, his citizenship was governed by the 1948 British nationality act, and at birth was both a British Subject, and a US citizen. Quote law to me? He at birth was a "dual national NATIVE born citizen" and that IS the law, and Obama admits it himself. Youshow me one counter law and Ill show you more, but you can't! Or prove me wrong. LOL
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
First obama lost British citizenship at the age of 3 when Kenya gained it's Independence, he gained Kenya citizenship by virtue, Kenya Constitution does not allow dual citizenship for adult so Obama lost it when he turned 21. Besides the fact no where in U.S. LAWS or the Constitution does it say a Prsident couldn't have held dual citizenship. Quote law to me? LMAO
I must lol at you, you keep claiming laws yet have not shown one proving Obama not a natural born citizen.. shoo little fly
krownick 3 years ago
Krownick, I see you,like most of the followers of "The One", like to argue on the letter of the law and know absolutely nothing of the law! Please be so kind as to direct me to where exactly in any law does it proclaim Mr.Obama a "natural Born Citizen". You can't because it just doesn't, and that sir is the fact. You people want him to be pres so bad that you overlook the law and that also is the fact. I on the other hand can show you at least 10 legal references, show me ONE, or learn, study!
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Sorry racist PIG, Obama is going to be the next President of the United States and there is nothing that you can do about it!!
SpookeyR 3 years ago
You really are a joke SpoontaR. I can't wait for the sky to fall on you!
badnetprac 3 years ago
I don't see how I was being a racist, but anyway, you have it wrong. Go and have a look and you're declaration of independance and the laws of nations.....lol! You should think about who you call racists too....I am more races than you I bet. I have at least 6 races to call myself.......what about you?
badnetprac 3 years ago
SpookyR, it is a shame that your only argument is that you sir are ignorant, of both the constitution, and that to allow the government officials, which hold office at our descretion, to shape the very laws witch give us the citizens our rights and freedoms, is to become a servent of the servents. I sir will not allow that to happen to me or the rest of my fellow citizens as long as I have breath. I do this for all Americans including the poor ignorant, uneducated citizens such as yourself.
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Mate, the fact that Obama's parents were MARRIED means NEITHER Obama's mother OR Obama himself were American citizens at the time of his birth. The woman who marries the man takes the man's citizenship, not the other way around. Having now proven that Obama's parents were indeed married, it should be known that obama was born a BRITISH citizen PROPER, and then later a citizen PROPER of Kenya! Figured you should know that mate. Obama was NOT born American AT ALL!
badnetprac 3 years ago
badnetprac..
That not how it works. U.S. citizenship can not be lost do to marriage.. funny how you people want Obama gone so bad you will just ignore U.S. laws.
krownick 3 years ago
I don't think you understand the principles of marriage or citizenship.
badnetprac 3 years ago
I think he understands them better than you do! You don't understand them at all, and at the very least you are making things up as you go...
SpookeyR 3 years ago
I listed below the law codes for the ONLY way to lose your U.S. Citizen. Go pedal your snake oil to someone not educated on U.S. Citizenship. NOW GO LOOK IT UP INSTEAD OF SPREADING LIES..
1)(Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA)
2)(Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA)
3)(Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA)
4)(Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA)
5)(Sec. 349 (a) (5) INA)
6)(Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA)
7)(Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA)
krownick 3 years ago
badnetprac, you are right.. But the US made provisions, that when an American woman marries a foreigner, she becomes a citizen of his country, but after death of the husband or a legal divorce she reverts back to an American citizen as long as it is with in one year of the divorce..A Treatise on the Law of Naturalization of the United States ..1907Believe me I wish it were not true...I still believe he(nObama) is not an american citizen. citizen..
AbbysWish 3 years ago
I don't think those provisions covered her marrying an Englishman. Marrying an Englishman was kind of like spitting on the flag after the battle for independence, wouldn't you agree?
badnetprac 3 years ago
Gee, so many flaws in your comment. first) England is are number #1 ALLY, try catching up with the times. two) Ones opinion is not a law, so what does it matter if YOU think it's "spitting on the flag" DOESN'T MAKE IT SO, that just your opinion. Three) marrying some one from another country is not spitting on the flag, do you even understand this country is made up with people from all over the world.
It sounds to me that you real don't understand the topic or what this country stands for.
krownick 3 years ago
@badnetprac WRONG HIS PARENTS WERE MARRIED IN THE USA SO OBAMA SR TOOK ANN DUNHAMS CITIZENSHIP
SupremekaiD5 8 months ago
TO all obots missinformed idiots this is about law not about race dam you bots go screw off
tobieesuperbatt 3 years ago
The law says obama is a natural born citizen.
krownick 3 years ago
Listen, I am sure that the FBI, CIA, NSA is fully aware of Obama's birth place and the truth of his inelgibility for the position of President. What can we do, as citizens, when our agenices, employed to protect this country, do nothing...
Drav1212 3 years ago
Drav1212, exactly what is being done here call them into the light and expose there corution, or stand silent and blame others. Stand up and fight, it is your right!
whodatpunk4 3 years ago
Obama just picked a NEW head of the CIA, hmmmmmm, a guy who has NOOOOOOOOOO intelligence experience what-so-ever...hmmmm Interesting...
He is covering his bases....
Drav1212 3 years ago
Right on Sir!
mudwhistle 3 years ago
SpookeyR, why is that people like you try to make every legal matter that involves a man of color, a matter of race. Race has nothing to do with this matter, in fact this matter started with McCain and what the Senate tried to do for him, then the matter of Obama arose out of that bending of the constitution. It is people like you that let O.J. Simpson, walk away free with decapitating one woman and repeatedly stabing a man to death. Tell me about racism. You appear to be the racist. FOOL!
whodatpunk4 3 years ago 2
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To all the ppl that think that racism is patriotism...
You just can't get over the reality that a person of color, a black man, is going to be President of the United States. Your world is crumbling, isn't it!??
SpookeyR 3 years ago
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To ALL the ppl that think that racism is patriotism...
You just can't get over the reality that a person of color, a black man, is going to be President of the United States.
Your world is crumbling, isn't it!??
SpookeyR 3 years ago
you piece of crap whats to hide unless there something tohide and thats what big O is doing and by the way I,m not white you punk
tobieesuperbatt 3 years ago
I don't care if you are black! It really means nothing!!
Jesse Jackson said that he wanted to cut off Obamas nuts bc Obama talks down to other black ppl!
Jesse Jackson is a racist too!!
SpookeyR 3 years ago
I think McCain's role was much more innocent than Obama's. I think he allowed himself to be persuaded he was eligible, and really thought he would win. He was confused about the legalities and did not properly research the matter.
But the speaker here, Hamblin, is absolutely correct. This is a very well-written exhortation for McCain to do the right thing. He has nothing to lose and everything to regain both for himself and for America. History will then be kind to him, to say the least!
7NTM61Ic 3 years ago 2
Mr. Hamblin, Thank you for everything.
Tourney64 3 years ago
I like it. I've often wondered what McCain's real agenda is on this issue. Is there anyway to get McCain to view this?
kjcanon 3 years ago
I like it. I've often wondered what McCain's real agenda is on this issue. Is there anyway to get McCain to view this?
kjcanon 3 years ago
Let's hope there are millions true Americans like you, and they will come out and voice, united on this, with necessary force , once word will spread against the will of MSM.
dobe
dobe170 3 years ago
Hopefully this video is seen by many!
twcbuff 3 years ago 3