That is sooo true. When I was told that I had to disect a frog I refused. The teacher didn't like that but I didn't care and told them no... It was unnessary and because of that "education experince" hundreds of frogs died.
dude seriously so fucking what... it's so people can learn for if they want to be in the medical field. They won't allow them to operate on a human.. that would be stupid.
every day people eat dead animals that have had there organs and bones riped out, to me this seems worse than dissection for educational purposes, yet it is a normal everyday thing.
just because somthing that was taught to you at school isn't helpful dosn't mean it wasnt helpful to anyone.
I don't really think it's necessary in high school or whatever, but without animal experimentation, we wouldn't have anything that resembled the kind of medical advances we have today.
Btw, it isn't an owl "turd" you took apart, it's a pellet = regurgitation. They are too large to be passed through the anus... :P
They were dead to begin with. The dead animals aren't tortured because it is dead. Dead. I don't do any of that in elementary or middle school. It's high school.
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my school got to dissect sharks :)...i can see how some people are disturbed by it, and im personally extremely afraid of dead things, but its to show us life i guess. i dont know. maybe its 'cause i want to be a doctor or something in the medical field one day, but i look forward to dissection days :D
I agree that it is grusome and wrong, especially in grade school because kids don't really know what they want to do. If you want to be an accountant or an engineer you don't need to. But for some professions (medical or biology) it can be very beneficial. So instead of wasting and hurting more animals for juvenile kids, wait for the big time education where it can make a difference.
well onision when i did the frog thing my teacher was trying to demonstrate to us how we probelbly can revive a wounded creature (not like it was alive) well we were timed and we had to think of every way possible to revive the model well after the timing she takes a look and she figures out if it would be living of not but the frog was open up so that she can see if it will survive and what spot it was impaled.
i wondered about that to, but it's for the best. but i dont really think it has anything to do with rollercoaster designing or being a accountant because rollercoaster is probably somekind of engineering and accountant is about money i guess but we dissect in science and those 2 are kind of irrelevent to dissection when your conparing. lol. but i agree i don't enjoy cutting animals.
Our school gets already dead frogs from our local collage, and those frogs were OOOLLD. Like those had been alive for many years. The bad thing is, is that they had to kill the frogs for our education. I actually want to a vetanarian. (excuse me if I spelled that wrong) Onison, trully, it's good for our education.
no. I thought it was very educational. And thats why its called SCIENCE class not accountant class or rollercoaster operator class its FUCKING SCIENCE class so if you want to be a SCIENTIST! So fuck you pussy.
We had to dissect a frog in 7th grade.I think I pissed the teacher off,because I would not stop ranting on how wrong it is for us to kill this innocent animal for the purpose of mutilating it.In high school if we ever have to dissect something,I will probably protest again. But I'm not a vegetarian, because I believe there is a purpose for that, and the purpose being food. I know it sounds hypocritical, but so be it. I don't think we need to dissect things unless we are a scientist/med student.
I did the owl poo one in first or second grade, and just this week I was supposed to be dissecting the frog, and if anything I don't want to be a doctor anymore. I wanted to go into medical to help people, but these frogs are dead, and the smell the preservatives give off made me want to throw up, so I was spending the time in the corner of the room, next to the door, trying not to freaking throw up, while watching other kids pretend to eat the insides of these animals. Educational, right?
@lbscummers In my school, you have to take biology in 9th or 10th grade, and if you dont dissect the frog, i guess you have to boil it? I'm not even sure what that accomplishes, but it really amplified the smell.
@emokitty1881 hell no hon, i thought i would hate ripping that little thing apart, but once you try it, it gets easier. and its kind of fun. the 7th grade frog dissection is something every person should experience. and there will be a lot more dissections that you wont be able to get out of, so start now so you'll be experienced. as an 8th grader,14, i have just dissected a cow eyeball =, we had to touch it.. ew at first, omfg awesome later on haha so just get it over with :D
Cruel, you ask? Well, look at it this way, do we really need to know what makes animals tick? Is that such vital information, that we need to kill a living organism? No. Therefore, no dissecting. No KILLING.
About the human thing...
I only agree with human body picking, because of the homicides that take place in our society today. No searching the body, less conviction rate. Don't forget medicine science. :]
I had to dissect a frog, the guys cut off the frogs legs and tongues, some sicko took the frog's hand OUT THE DOOR. It was nasty, interesting, but why did i have to do it???
As an aspiring doctor I could not wait to dissect a fetal pig in class. But I ended up hovering over a jerk who only wanted to gouge out the poor pigs eyes. I learned NOTHING. I barely touched the pig, and girls were screaming all over the place.
In conclusion I felt that most of the students were just too immature to deal with this. So I agree that in High school it is pointless to teach kids this. Although generally I think dissection can help us learn more about the world.
Actually owl pellets aren't excrement, they are what are thrown up by the owl, because they can't digest it, that's why it's nothing but fur and bones.
I BELIEVE THAT AT HIGHSCHOOL IT'S IRRELEVANT. I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BECOME VETS, SHOULD KNOW, HOW IT LOOKS FROM THE INSIDE. I ONCE ASKED MY TEACHER IF HE THINKS IT'S ETHICAL AND HE SAID THAT THEY USUALLY USE ANIMALS, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TRUST HIM ON THIS. I BELIEVE THAT IT DID HELP SCIENCE AND THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PILLS THANKS TO ANIMAL TESTING AND THAT WE SAVED AND SAVE HUMAN LIVES, BUT AS A VEGAN I DON'T FEEL THAT COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT.
My school is horrible, I told them I'm not okay with ripping apart a frog.
But no, they're making me do it anyway this year.
I'm trying to find a virtual one that I can get the school to use instead of killing animals and sending them to schools just so we can tear them apart.
Some people say it is necessary, because they themselves want to know for their future. Not all of us need to know. I think the best solution is virtual dissection, because honestly in my school, they make us dissect pigs. I will not be doing that.
@Sims2players When my mom went to college, she had to take apart pigs, too. But over the course of several days. So, since there wasn't any piglet-embryo-friendly storage places anywhere, the students had to find a place.
I believe dissection is necessary for human evolution.
Lemme tell you why, biologists, scientists, etc. are BAFFLED still by some of the amazing things an organism does, especially primates and so forth.
Without studying animals and dissecting people who have donated their bodies to the advancement of science, we would still be in the Dark Ages of medical knowledge.
The more we dissect, the more we learn about our world.
@TheCrimsonIdol987 oh yeah its a very important thing but it just sucks that we put kids (normally in middle school) through that crap. i mean at least wait untill highschool, where someone has the choice to pick that class.
It's cool to see how insides work, and it grabs your attention much more than a diagram. Besides, not all labs use living animals, at my old school we had frozen dead frongs to dissect
@aboutashow: Normally, schools, colleges, and institutions do not promote the living dissection of an organism, this is known as vivisection, and Animal Rights people do not agree with vivisecting an animal unless scientifically necessary.
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another idiotic statement from onision. its called learning, some people are interested in how biology works otherwise we wouldnt have such advanced medicine and surgical techniques today. if children are not exposed to different areas of study fully then their choices are narrowed. part of being a biologist is disecting things, think it through.
But sadly we are far from ideal and Most of us dont know what we want untill we experiment with different subjects and areas of study, Cause i mean how often do kids grow up to be what they want to be When they're in elementary school(for instance i was intent on becoming a firetruck) So teachers in Elemetary and middle school need to expose children to different things so we can find out if little suzy REALLY wants to be a vet or if at the sight of blood Or a needle she vomits and faints.
I See wehre you're coming from, and I personally think that it shouldn't be taught in school and I mena, maybe this makes me sound ignorant or something, but personally i dont think that they should even do virtual dissections until children are smart enough to Not want to see what the real thing looks like and decide to do it on their own, But on the other side of the argument, ideally we would all know What we wanted to be when we grow up when we're at a young age so they can begin training
Dissecting animals is no different than the other useless subjects. Like, how do I use the stuff I learned about long-dead poets, how they lived their decadent lives, what unenjoyable nonsense they have written, and the supposed meaning behind their lines?
Or how does it help me to know what happened four thousand years ago on the other side of the globe?
I could go on with the list of things I have never given a stray thought since I graduated.
@clownslayer4235 It's unnecessary. There are so many internet sites and programs where you can virtually dissect these things and actually learn something about how it functions rather than uselessly doing it with a real animal/body part and having kids slap each other with the body parts, joke around and not really learn anything.
my brother had to dissect a CAT. quite unfortunately, it looked like his pet cat. ugh. I'm going into 10th grade this year, and the worst I've had to do so far was cut a chicken wing in 8th grade (it didn't have any skin or anything, it was just the muscle.) I really hope I don't have to cut open a frog or anything like that. I don't think my stomach could take it :/
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2. to examine minutely part by part; analyze: to dissect an idea.
It's not done for enjoyment or some evil act as some people like to insinuate. Frogs have the same general organs as humans which is why most schools dissect frogs (and pigs for the same reason). Hands on and naked eye observation is an excellent way to learn about organ systems and similarities.
i had to do the whole traditional "cut open a frog" thing back in the 7th grade. currently im going to be a senior this year, but i remember i just didnt want to do it. i remember saying to my teacher "if a frog was cutting a human open, how would u feel?" basically i remember she yelled at me and went onto saying how "these frogs are taken from over populated places"...ok? that doesnt change that its gross and disturbing! i completely agree, onision
dude my teacher made us to do that it was the worse thing i watch ( i refused to particapate in the action of disection) and the group i was in the teacher didnt even get mad when they just riped everything out and didnt even try to make it and "educational experience" it was like a whore movie
I think there is a major difference between the torturing of innocent animals, and dissecting dead ones. There is no pleasure received from dissecting animals (for most students) where as some children torture animals for pleasure, for psycho sexual stimulation, pleasure, and ultimately POWER... that has been statistically connected to the eventual torture of human beings and feeling of power over them. Dissection however has not...ever...AT ALL
in my school we only do disections if you are doing A level biology i.e in my school probably training to be a doctor/surgeon/vet. anyway in medical school they cut up humans as well :/ but yeah in schools you should be able to say why shud i do this i dont want to be a surgeon etc :)
At my school we only dissect pigs. But the pigs we get are little baby ones, the ones that did not survive the birthing, or had terminal illness that killed it a few days later.
We did not contribute to his/her death, so no harm is being done. They did die young, but it was natural, not mankind's cause
@emoxxxangelxxx yeah i remeber in my school we had to learn how to do that owl thing when i was in middle school but what are they teaching us its not like one day were gonna be caught in a situation where u have to find bones in birds crap wow a dog thats just crule i have a job now i work at seaworld and get decent money im still 16 though not exactly the job i dreamed when i was little but things change and the schools need to realize that not every one wants to become scientists
It could be for students aspiring to be vets. Schools have to cater to nearly everything when it comes to a students needs for the world of work and if dissection helps a student who wants to be a vet then they have to do it.
I tried to get into the applied science in my high school instead of academic simply because I heard they would not have to dissect... Turns out, what I heard was wrong because there were two dissection days. One I was thankfully absent for because I was on a field trip with a world peace group in grade 9. The other I could not even get close to and my partners did everything while I just stayed as close to the wall as I could because I felt like puking. School sucks. I plan to home school.
onision you probably wont read this but... its all about making kids do stupid pointless shit so that they learn that the government is an authority figure and they have to do what they say no matter how much sense it makes
The only schools that should have you cut open animals, is medschool. I happen to be a paramedic, and knowing these things help, but my cousin is a game designer. Exactly when the fuck will he EVER need to know where organs go?
@thecatyoukai well, as a developer myself, I have to say he may have to know a bit of anatomy when doing some modeling. though you don't need to dissect an animal to learn anatomy.
no doctor has ever learned about the human body without looking inside it. looking in other animals helps us understad our own bodies. you may not want to be a doctor but at least your less ignorant about your own body,and subject that has done so much for us. why should you learn to read, write, or do math, cuz it advances you.
@hhuuann When I was 12 I had to dissect a frog. I'm only 13 now. I dissected an owl pellet at 6, and my little brother did it at 7. Later on in high school, if my friend's sister is speaking the truth, we'll have to dissect a cat, although I won't do it even if they force me. I'm not an animal freak, but a cat? I own a cat. I won't do it. Yeah, kids are doing this.
theres a lot of things we learn, or have learned that does not and will not help us with our future jobs, but education is a broad spectrum of learning and yes it will require things you do not care about and or will never use but if schools only taught math or whatever you would need most in your future planned job, you would be a very uneducated person.
i agree completely! i am a vegan and i remember when i was in 7th grade when we dissected frogs which was before i became vegan. i have always cared for animals and when the frogs came out i couldn't even look at them. each day we cut them open all i did was stare at the ground, trying not to smell the awful stench, and resisting the urge to puke. i saw what they did and it was horrifying. it was disgusting and i look back and think how happy i am that i am vegan today
a couple of weeks ago we were gonna take a rat apart in biology class, but i didn't want to do it so luckily they didn't make me... the next time i see a rat, i don't want to know where its liver, its kidneys and its balls are.
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It's meant to learn anatomy, and really we don't use most of the things we learn in school, its really just meant to find out what we are interested in doing with our life. If you find it interesting to disect and go through the organs and what not of an animal, perhaps you would enjoy being a surgeon ^_^. My high school's anatomy class disected dead cats, people who are interested in careers in medicine (or vetinary) normally took those classes though.
I did a fetal pig dissection like a month ago for biology. It was actually really interesting. But if you don't want to do it you usually dont have to.
it's fun, dissection was really fun back in school days, many will puke, many will not like it, who gives a shit.
killing is fun, so is opening shit up.
it is non necessary, true, but sure it's better than studying a book and writing out all the parts of the the body! murder over school work any day of the week.
Well there is a big diffrence.. The animals are already dead.. Yeah you are right, you don´t need it if your not going to be a veterenarian nor a doctor. But we even do it with human beings to learn about the human body, its nessecary so that we can make sure that the people that are alive today, that we can take care of them if they get sick, its nessecary knowledge, and you also do it to find the reason of death on a human being in a "crime case". But yeah maybe we shouldnt do it in >school
well maybe not everyone is going to end up being an accountant. if you're going to be a vet or a doctor, these things are vital to know. plus, when we dissected a baby pig, the pig died of natural causes.
its a life skill. to deal with dealing with gross stuff.
like changing diapers. fucking disgusting. but when i was little after our cat died i cracked his skull open and checked his brains out. then preceded to cut his belly open and check out what his last meal was. Looked like kibble and hairballs.
This interaction made changing diapers alot easier. I couldnt imagine anyone else changing my fathers diapers but me.
I like the first part. They are fine with dissection in class, but I one did it on a road kill to put the bones together for an art class, and I got put in counseling. How is that fair? Just like your owl turd. Do it in class and it's fine, but do it on your own, and your a psycho? WTF?
they made us cut up a fish when i was in 5th grade all I wanted to do was vomit, to this day I cannot eat anything if I have to clean it of any organs or anything, I fish at costco and I eat boneless chicken and I have to cook turkey loaf for thanksgivving because I could never deal with a whole turkey and the giblets. yeah i'd say I was traumatized by it as well.
I believe doctors and scientists should be allowed to make disections, but not just every student.
When a person decides to become a doctor, they know they will need to disect other humans, they know and they agree. One does not really chose to be in school, so being forced to do something like that is just wrong.
I know it's kinda gross and wrong. :3 And students shouldn't have to do it. I defiantly agree. But I guess if they never did that long ago they wouldn't really know how to take care of us or the animals if they didn't look inside them and see what's going on. Just food for thought. :3
I think we should all do those internet dissections. Why do we look at pictures for humans and not animals? I have no clue.Why don't we dissect humans? oh yea because its WRONG! If we wouldn't rip up people, why do we rip up animals?
Yeah I had to take apart an owl turd thing. It was not only gross but really unnecessary. Cause later in life I'm going to be a professional animal poop/throw up inspector right?
I remember being asked to Dissect Pig. I was against so, and felt like declaring I was not going to participate. But that would accomplish little more than what the dissection does anyway.
So I wrote an essay explaining my feelings logically, and asked if I could instead Draw/Colour pictures of the Pigs insides. They accepted.
Which begs the question: "Why even have the expensive Dissection if you can learn the same, if not more by colouring?"
i think we are forgetting this happens to humans as well-no one seems upset with that
i don't think that 'disection' tells you anymore than a book,
or does everyone want inexpierenced doctors & vets?
hs is not the place tho
RAR5391 2 weeks ago
That is sooo true. When I was told that I had to disect a frog I refused. The teacher didn't like that but I didn't care and told them no... It was unnessary and because of that "education experince" hundreds of frogs died.
mlooneytunes 1 month ago in playlist Young Life
It's true. It's kind of unnecessary, unless of course you are planning on going into the veterinary field.
NightWorldGrl 1 month ago
dude seriously so fucking what... it's so people can learn for if they want to be in the medical field. They won't allow them to operate on a human.. that would be stupid.
YouSuckLemon 2 months ago
i tried to opt out of it in bio we had to disect a pig but i was half forced to because if i didnt i would have a zero on 15% of my grade.
ha1ha9ha 3 months ago
every day people eat dead animals that have had there organs and bones riped out, to me this seems worse than dissection for educational purposes, yet it is a normal everyday thing.
just because somthing that was taught to you at school isn't helpful dosn't mean it wasnt helpful to anyone.
jdogjoshiewashie 3 months ago
i comepltely agree with you greg
beachperson22 4 months ago in playlist Young Life
I don't really think it's necessary in high school or whatever, but without animal experimentation, we wouldn't have anything that resembled the kind of medical advances we have today.
Btw, it isn't an owl "turd" you took apart, it's a pellet = regurgitation. They are too large to be passed through the anus... :P
Lemonz1989 4 months ago
We do it just to piss people like you off obviously... I've never seen someone more arrogant in my life.
KyleJPie10 5 months ago 5
They were dead to begin with. The dead animals aren't tortured because it is dead. Dead. I don't do any of that in elementary or middle school. It's high school.
Sw33tKatProductions 5 months ago
I agree thats why i did the Paper Version!
AC3513 5 months ago
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LukeCowanMusic 5 months ago
my school got to dissect sharks :)...i can see how some people are disturbed by it, and im personally extremely afraid of dead things, but its to show us life i guess. i dont know. maybe its 'cause i want to be a doctor or something in the medical field one day, but i look forward to dissection days :D
ccbunnyrabbit 6 months ago
I refuse to do that as school. I dont care if I fail becuz its so descusting and wrong.
xAstraya 6 months ago
I agree that it is grusome and wrong, especially in grade school because kids don't really know what they want to do. If you want to be an accountant or an engineer you don't need to. But for some professions (medical or biology) it can be very beneficial. So instead of wasting and hurting more animals for juvenile kids, wait for the big time education where it can make a difference.
KyXla4 6 months ago
cut class, not frogs <3
allyluvsk8erboys 6 months ago 7
well onision when i did the frog thing my teacher was trying to demonstrate to us how we probelbly can revive a wounded creature (not like it was alive) well we were timed and we had to think of every way possible to revive the model well after the timing she takes a look and she figures out if it would be living of not but the frog was open up so that she can see if it will survive and what spot it was impaled.
MrNightreap 6 months ago
I did that in fourth grade. :S
Lissserr 7 months ago
i wondered about that to, but it's for the best. but i dont really think it has anything to do with rollercoaster designing or being a accountant because rollercoaster is probably somekind of engineering and accountant is about money i guess but we dissect in science and those 2 are kind of irrelevent to dissection when your conparing. lol. but i agree i don't enjoy cutting animals.
CourtTheDorkyDork 7 months ago
Our school gets already dead frogs from our local collage, and those frogs were OOOLLD. Like those had been alive for many years. The bad thing is, is that they had to kill the frogs for our education. I actually want to a vetanarian. (excuse me if I spelled that wrong) Onison, trully, it's good for our education.
eeveeheart 7 months ago
no. I thought it was very educational. And thats why its called SCIENCE class not accountant class or rollercoaster operator class its FUCKING SCIENCE class so if you want to be a SCIENTIST! So fuck you pussy.
MonkeyNinjaDude1 7 months ago
-1 that was an owl PELET they dont dijest the bone they cough it back up
-2 disection is 2 help us teenagers in school learn about how things function
-3 if the schools get sheep cow exetera they get it from the butcher. would u rather that, that part of the animal rots?
phoenixheart1300 8 months ago
we found a baby mouse in the belly of a frog in 7th grade. That made me cry.after class
TheProjectMJ 8 months ago
We had to dissect a frog in 7th grade.I think I pissed the teacher off,because I would not stop ranting on how wrong it is for us to kill this innocent animal for the purpose of mutilating it.In high school if we ever have to dissect something,I will probably protest again. But I'm not a vegetarian, because I believe there is a purpose for that, and the purpose being food. I know it sounds hypocritical, but so be it. I don't think we need to dissect things unless we are a scientist/med student.
PenguinsBadBladder 8 months ago
dissection is a good thing it helps people learn but dissection in middle/high school is a wast of time and fucking stupid
DoYouPwn 8 months ago
Oh yeah, in 7th I had to dissect a pig heart, and I think later on I might have to dissect a cow eye.
Why is the cutting needed, I don't learn anything from this stuff.
barbiegirls2 9 months ago
I did the owl poo one in first or second grade, and just this week I was supposed to be dissecting the frog, and if anything I don't want to be a doctor anymore. I wanted to go into medical to help people, but these frogs are dead, and the smell the preservatives give off made me want to throw up, so I was spending the time in the corner of the room, next to the door, trying not to freaking throw up, while watching other kids pretend to eat the insides of these animals. Educational, right?
barbiegirls2 9 months ago
I had to cut open a piglet that died of "natural causes". It looked like my kitten. It was fucking gross and horrific.
awxish 10 months ago
I did the owl feces one I meant! Ha.
GabrielleBiggs 10 months ago
I did the same thing. I thought it to be interesting because seeing the good in a bad situation is a good skill.
GabrielleBiggs 10 months ago
113 people who disliked this vid ate the bones from the turds of birds.
DemonNaoto 11 months ago
lol just a wee bit traumatized..im srry but imfound tht line funny
riplilkevin1 11 months ago
i want 2 be a doctor so yea...
vampiregrl100 1 year ago
I am currently at med school and the dissection of human bodies is needed to learn how it works.
The same goes with biology. If you want to know how something works, you are going to have to take it apart.
I dunno if it's different in America, but in Britain, where I am, you only do the dissection if you've chosen to study Biology.
And only then if you are comfortable doing so.
So yeah. I guess I agree with @TheCrimsonldol987, it just took me a while to say it. :)
lbscummers 1 year ago
@lbscummers In my school, you have to take biology in 9th or 10th grade, and if you dont dissect the frog, i guess you have to boil it? I'm not even sure what that accomplishes, but it really amplified the smell.
barbiegirls2 9 months ago
@emokitty1881 hell no hon, i thought i would hate ripping that little thing apart, but once you try it, it gets easier. and its kind of fun. the 7th grade frog dissection is something every person should experience. and there will be a lot more dissections that you wont be able to get out of, so start now so you'll be experienced. as an 8th grader,14, i have just dissected a cow eyeball =, we had to touch it.. ew at first, omfg awesome later on haha so just get it over with :D
deidarafangirl777 1 year ago
an owl pellet is like a hair ball with a cat, its the parts of animal that the owl cant digest
redKELLYMHRCH 1 year ago
I never got to disect a frog....i always wanted to as a kid.
ytfjordan 1 year ago
i think that this should b considerd animal abuse xD
MsMorningsong 1 year ago
i think that if the animal died by old age then we can cut it open. but only for learning purposes.
TheSpartanScorpion 1 year ago
home school for the win
youpooper1234567890 1 year ago
home school ftw
youpooper1234567890 1 year ago
I only agree to the extent of dissecting humans.
Cruel, you ask? Well, look at it this way, do we really need to know what makes animals tick? Is that such vital information, that we need to kill a living organism? No. Therefore, no dissecting. No KILLING.
About the human thing...
I only agree with human body picking, because of the homicides that take place in our society today. No searching the body, less conviction rate. Don't forget medicine science. :]
StreakWaya 1 year ago
bird turd is the word
OkJohnnyLetsGo 1 year ago
what the fuck did they teach at your school
foggraven 1 year ago
I had to dissect a frog, the guys cut off the frogs legs and tongues, some sicko took the frog's hand OUT THE DOOR. It was nasty, interesting, but why did i have to do it???
TheProjectMJ 1 year ago
I'm so glad i never had to do this. even if it ever came up in class, i would refuse to do it no matter what.
maxmra 1 year ago
As an aspiring doctor I could not wait to dissect a fetal pig in class. But I ended up hovering over a jerk who only wanted to gouge out the poor pigs eyes. I learned NOTHING. I barely touched the pig, and girls were screaming all over the place.
In conclusion I felt that most of the students were just too immature to deal with this. So I agree that in High school it is pointless to teach kids this. Although generally I think dissection can help us learn more about the world.
skully10189 1 year ago
Actually owl pellets aren't excrement, they are what are thrown up by the owl, because they can't digest it, that's why it's nothing but fur and bones.
ikarithereaper 1 year ago
I BELIEVE THAT AT HIGHSCHOOL IT'S IRRELEVANT. I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BECOME VETS, SHOULD KNOW, HOW IT LOOKS FROM THE INSIDE. I ONCE ASKED MY TEACHER IF HE THINKS IT'S ETHICAL AND HE SAID THAT THEY USUALLY USE ANIMALS, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TRUST HIM ON THIS. I BELIEVE THAT IT DID HELP SCIENCE AND THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PILLS THANKS TO ANIMAL TESTING AND THAT WE SAVED AND SAVE HUMAN LIVES, BUT AS A VEGAN I DON'T FEEL THAT COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT.
MrSaycheeseandsmile 1 year ago
@MrSaycheeseandsmile See that button to the left of the letter a? press it... lol
maxmra 1 year ago
im so happy im britsih....
PyrogirlZZ 1 year ago
once we had to discect this huge worm that smelled like salty chemicals....i can never eat pickeled string beans again ):
EastCoastPeace3 1 year ago
My school is horrible, I told them I'm not okay with ripping apart a frog.
But no, they're making me do it anyway this year.
I'm trying to find a virtual one that I can get the school to use instead of killing animals and sending them to schools just so we can tear them apart.
xxrainbowcookie 1 year ago
my thoughts EXACTLY!!!
PrupleFlea 1 year ago
why no use rode kill ther will be no unnesisary deaths " this was probably ti liver maby."
catsage2 1 year ago
At 9th grade in finland we have to cut reindeers heart.
Glitterkisshug 1 year ago
Yes look here kids and see what happens when you don't learn things, see what you'll turn into, an onionhead.
daddyg321 1 year ago
They did that at our school the other day.
I had to leave the room. Dx
SeCyPiE 1 year ago
Well, I had to dissect an Owl's turd.... in the 4th grade. It helps broaden younger children's minds to the outside world, you idiot.
MW2GamerVids 1 year ago
MOM: "But when you disect an animal, you learn how it works. its education and u need it."
ME: "But it's sick and I'm not learning anything from it! Why should they suffer for no reason?"
MOM: "They don't suffer if they're dead."
ME: "But where do you thikn they get the animals? And why in the world do you think thats ok?"
MOM: "But its for your education"
ME: "Did you even listen to anything i just said?!?"
3v3rythingandanythin 1 year ago
I did that in 5th grade
LumpySockPrincess 1 year ago
You're using the same arguments that 6th graders use.
"This doesn't apply to ME, WHY SHOULD I CARE?"
It's based on general knowledge, so we can learn more about how living organisms work.
Don't like it? Man up and pass the class so you don't have to be a pussy about it two years in a row.
I could bitch about calc and trig and say, "How do these help me be a biologist?"
You don't need those to zoom a microscope or count add numbers. I might as well stop at 5th grade math,
M4GNITUDE 1 year ago
Some people say it is necessary, because they themselves want to know for their future. Not all of us need to know. I think the best solution is virtual dissection, because honestly in my school, they make us dissect pigs. I will not be doing that.
Sims2players 1 year ago
@Sims2players When my mom went to college, she had to take apart pigs, too. But over the course of several days. So, since there wasn't any piglet-embryo-friendly storage places anywhere, the students had to find a place.
They had to keep them under their beds.
o.0
acheese9 1 year ago
@acheese9 WTF?!
Sims2players 1 year ago
I believe dissection is necessary for human evolution.
Lemme tell you why, biologists, scientists, etc. are BAFFLED still by some of the amazing things an organism does, especially primates and so forth.
Without studying animals and dissecting people who have donated their bodies to the advancement of science, we would still be in the Dark Ages of medical knowledge.
The more we dissect, the more we learn about our world.
But that's just me.
TheCrimsonIdol987 1 year ago 19
@TheCrimsonIdol987 There are more technological ways to do the same without slicing an animal open.
SohnoJam 1 year ago
@TheCrimsonIdol987 well i think we should leave that to biologists
LumpySockPrincess 1 year ago
@TheCrimsonIdol987 oh yeah its a very important thing but it just sucks that we put kids (normally in middle school) through that crap. i mean at least wait untill highschool, where someone has the choice to pick that class.
maxmra 1 year ago
@TheCrimsonIdol987 Agreed completely, I guess that's his opinion but I believe dissecting is very necessary.
PermanentMarkerism 10 months ago
Onision, its owl puke. haha, We did that too.
purplellamarider 1 year ago
It's cool to see how insides work, and it grabs your attention much more than a diagram. Besides, not all labs use living animals, at my old school we had frozen dead frongs to dissect
aboutashow 1 year ago
@aboutashow: Normally, schools, colleges, and institutions do not promote the living dissection of an organism, this is known as vivisection, and Animal Rights people do not agree with vivisecting an animal unless scientifically necessary.
TheCrimsonIdol987 1 year ago
Onision, who cares? No really........... WHO CARES?
DoomExtreme1 1 year ago
@DoomExtreme1 Me. I care.
Sims2players 1 year ago
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ItzMEonTV 1 year ago
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ItzMEonTV 1 year ago
another idiotic statement from onision. its called learning, some people are interested in how biology works otherwise we wouldnt have such advanced medicine and surgical techniques today. if children are not exposed to different areas of study fully then their choices are narrowed. part of being a biologist is disecting things, think it through.
mgigkgeg 1 year ago
But sadly we are far from ideal and Most of us dont know what we want untill we experiment with different subjects and areas of study, Cause i mean how often do kids grow up to be what they want to be When they're in elementary school(for instance i was intent on becoming a firetruck) So teachers in Elemetary and middle school need to expose children to different things so we can find out if little suzy REALLY wants to be a vet or if at the sight of blood Or a needle she vomits and faints.
Orangeishyummeh 1 year ago
I See wehre you're coming from, and I personally think that it shouldn't be taught in school and I mena, maybe this makes me sound ignorant or something, but personally i dont think that they should even do virtual dissections until children are smart enough to Not want to see what the real thing looks like and decide to do it on their own, But on the other side of the argument, ideally we would all know What we wanted to be when we grow up when we're at a young age so they can begin training
Orangeishyummeh 1 year ago
That's school for you.
Dissecting animals is no different than the other useless subjects. Like, how do I use the stuff I learned about long-dead poets, how they lived their decadent lives, what unenjoyable nonsense they have written, and the supposed meaning behind their lines?
Or how does it help me to know what happened four thousand years ago on the other side of the globe?
I could go on with the list of things I have never given a stray thought since I graduated.
Grimmgore 1 year ago
@Grimmgore I know. When am I ever going to use English in real life, right?
MaoiMeowi2 1 year ago
taking a part animals is really REALLY GROSS im with u onision
owlhead6 1 year ago
Jesus Christ, the animals are already dead? so whats the problem with using it to learn?
clownslayer4235 1 year ago
@clownslayer4235 It's unnecessary. There are so many internet sites and programs where you can virtually dissect these things and actually learn something about how it functions rather than uselessly doing it with a real animal/body part and having kids slap each other with the body parts, joke around and not really learn anything.
IAmMonsterDog 1 year ago
well... at least its dead?
notimeforthisshitttt 1 year ago
my brother had to dissect a CAT. quite unfortunately, it looked like his pet cat. ugh. I'm going into 10th grade this year, and the worst I've had to do so far was cut a chicken wing in 8th grade (it didn't have any skin or anything, it was just the muscle.) I really hope I don't have to cut open a frog or anything like that. I don't think my stomach could take it :/
CEPandSMA 1 year ago
@CEPandSMA you can ask to do a virtual dissection online. They have to let you do it.
IAmMonsterDog 1 year ago
@CEPandSMA ...the only thing you've ever done with a chicken wing was CUT it?
MaoiMeowi2 1 year ago
have you ever thought of how docters learn how to do sugery
siouxsiewestwood 1 year ago
Dissect from dictionary dotcom
1. to cut apart (an animal body, plant, etc.) to examine the structure, relation of parts, or the like.
2. to examine minutely part by part; analyze: to dissect an idea.
It's not done for enjoyment or some evil act as some people like to insinuate. Frogs have the same general organs as humans which is why most schools dissect frogs (and pigs for the same reason). Hands on and naked eye observation is an excellent way to learn about organ systems and similarities.
Thunderr10 1 year ago
Another reason I dislike America.
UK FTW.
shikajoseph 1 year ago
i had to do the whole traditional "cut open a frog" thing back in the 7th grade. currently im going to be a senior this year, but i remember i just didnt want to do it. i remember saying to my teacher "if a frog was cutting a human open, how would u feel?" basically i remember she yelled at me and went onto saying how "these frogs are taken from over populated places"...ok? that doesnt change that its gross and disturbing! i completely agree, onision
JadeGreenJewel 1 year ago
dude my teacher made us to do that it was the worse thing i watch ( i refused to particapate in the action of disection) and the group i was in the teacher didnt even get mad when they just riped everything out and didnt even try to make it and "educational experience" it was like a whore movie
disection dosnt teach kids anything
TheMsincognito 1 year ago
Yes. That is really fucked up.
trying2killsometime 1 year ago
How is it torture if the thing is dead?
MaoiMeowi2 1 year ago
I think there is a major difference between the torturing of innocent animals, and dissecting dead ones. There is no pleasure received from dissecting animals (for most students) where as some children torture animals for pleasure, for psycho sexual stimulation, pleasure, and ultimately POWER... that has been statistically connected to the eventual torture of human beings and feeling of power over them. Dissection however has not...ever...AT ALL
submissivelover 1 year ago
but these frogs are already dead, we didint kill the frogs.
krazziKutie123 1 year ago
in my school we only do disections if you are doing A level biology i.e in my school probably training to be a doctor/surgeon/vet. anyway in medical school they cut up humans as well :/ but yeah in schools you should be able to say why shud i do this i dont want to be a surgeon etc :)
CroissantsxTropicaux 1 year ago
At my school we only dissect pigs. But the pigs we get are little baby ones, the ones that did not survive the birthing, or had terminal illness that killed it a few days later.
We did not contribute to his/her death, so no harm is being done. They did die young, but it was natural, not mankind's cause
Thumbs up so her can see it!!!
wthgoku91 1 year ago
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Knowledge is power you fucking moron.
get over it you fucking pussy.
whoisthisghastlyman 1 year ago
I had to watch a video at school and on that video they cut open a dog and showed us the heart... I couldn't take it...
emoxxxangelxxx 1 year ago
@emoxxxangelxxx yeah i remeber in my school we had to learn how to do that owl thing when i was in middle school but what are they teaching us its not like one day were gonna be caught in a situation where u have to find bones in birds crap wow a dog thats just crule i have a job now i work at seaworld and get decent money im still 16 though not exactly the job i dreamed when i was little but things change and the schools need to realize that not every one wants to become scientists
josue10540 1 year ago
It could be for students aspiring to be vets. Schools have to cater to nearly everything when it comes to a students needs for the world of work and if dissection helps a student who wants to be a vet then they have to do it.
Sogyonokotowari1000 1 year ago
we did that at school, but not in real life. its was just a game on the computer! i was so glad!
twizlerzRlegit 1 year ago
I'm so glad I finally found this video, sorry for asking for it all this time when it was already up! Love your opinions, xx
Quincyluvs2ski 1 year ago
I tried to get into the applied science in my high school instead of academic simply because I heard they would not have to dissect... Turns out, what I heard was wrong because there were two dissection days. One I was thankfully absent for because I was on a field trip with a world peace group in grade 9. The other I could not even get close to and my partners did everything while I just stayed as close to the wall as I could because I felt like puking. School sucks. I plan to home school.
Mystifaction 1 year ago
onision you probably wont read this but... its all about making kids do stupid pointless shit so that they learn that the government is an authority figure and they have to do what they say no matter how much sense it makes
Standoman6546 1 year ago
The only schools that should have you cut open animals, is medschool. I happen to be a paramedic, and knowing these things help, but my cousin is a game designer. Exactly when the fuck will he EVER need to know where organs go?
thecatyoukai 1 year ago 38
@thecatyoukai well, as a developer myself, I have to say he may have to know a bit of anatomy when doing some modeling. though you don't need to dissect an animal to learn anatomy.
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
@thecatyoukai when the fat gamers have heart attacks from chips and redbull ^_^
DesolateMyHate 1 year ago
i disected a frog once and it just horrified me
afterthefact89550 1 year ago
no doctor has ever learned about the human body without looking inside it. looking in other animals helps us understad our own bodies. you may not want to be a doctor but at least your less ignorant about your own body,and subject that has done so much for us. why should you learn to read, write, or do math, cuz it advances you.
91jgphonecall 1 year ago
at our school we disect plants!
XXXheyyyyXXX 1 year ago
there are websites to digitally disect them so you dont have to do anything
mrsnickjonasluva1 1 year ago
LIES im 13 i had to do it
mrsnickjonasluva1 1 year ago
@hhuuann When I was 12 I had to dissect a frog. I'm only 13 now. I dissected an owl pellet at 6, and my little brother did it at 7. Later on in high school, if my friend's sister is speaking the truth, we'll have to dissect a cat, although I won't do it even if they force me. I'm not an animal freak, but a cat? I own a cat. I won't do it. Yeah, kids are doing this.
snuckoo 1 year ago
its not a turd... dumb ass its the things it cant digest so it throws it back up
L2Pno0b 1 year ago
theres a lot of things we learn, or have learned that does not and will not help us with our future jobs, but education is a broad spectrum of learning and yes it will require things you do not care about and or will never use but if schools only taught math or whatever you would need most in your future planned job, you would be a very uneducated person.
HandJ4evr 1 year ago
Why don't you ask any veterinarian why that is important
tubamike11 1 year ago
How about if we just killed a PETA jerk and took him or her apart in school? That might help us learn better, and PETArds are useless.
TimmyGal 1 year ago
i agree completely! i am a vegan and i remember when i was in 7th grade when we dissected frogs which was before i became vegan. i have always cared for animals and when the frogs came out i couldn't even look at them. each day we cut them open all i did was stare at the ground, trying not to smell the awful stench, and resisting the urge to puke. i saw what they did and it was horrifying. it was disgusting and i look back and think how happy i am that i am vegan today
iGottaLOVEforMusic 1 year ago
a couple of weeks ago we were gonna take a rat apart in biology class, but i didn't want to do it so luckily they didn't make me... the next time i see a rat, i don't want to know where its liver, its kidneys and its balls are.
13Sliver 1 year ago
Dude, Onision
WTF.
Their dead.
What a lightweight
WhammyFlicks 1 year ago
@WhammyFlicks and why did they die? because of meateaters directly paying for that to happen
and just think about it. you are eating something that was a living thing. had emotions, feelings. how is that different from eating another human?
TheTutorialAgent 1 year ago
@TheTutorialAgent Hmmm... another weirdo, and just for the record, im a cannibal. if i wanted to, i could get your pet/animal, rip its fur off and eat their remaining's. Or i can Take you, and lick your blood off of my shiny, metal machete like kool aid. Since i am obviously going to do either, and the fact that i have two cats and am not a cannibal, I would rather eat the non living remainings of a already drugged ,dead and fried animal.
WhammyFlicks 1 year ago
@WhammyFlicks Fuck you. Thats all i have to say.
OutsideOfMadness 1 year ago
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@TheTutorialAgent There is no scientific consensus on emotion in animals
That was a quote from wikipedia. google it.
WhammyFlicks 1 year ago
that itsnt owl dropping thats owl pelts... it comes out the other end... they're like cats hair balls...
collective654 1 year ago
It's meant to learn anatomy, and really we don't use most of the things we learn in school, its really just meant to find out what we are interested in doing with our life. If you find it interesting to disect and go through the organs and what not of an animal, perhaps you would enjoy being a surgeon ^_^. My high school's anatomy class disected dead cats, people who are interested in careers in medicine (or vetinary) normally took those classes though.
LadySeraph 1 year ago
Ha Ha a birds turd that part made me laugh!
Meag15 1 year ago
I did a fetal pig dissection like a month ago for biology. It was actually really interesting. But if you don't want to do it you usually dont have to.
MackandAlex 1 year ago
onision i said i wont do it..and i refused to disect..and i got a detention!
RoflingAllTheTime 1 year ago
it helped me cause im studying to be a vet i need to learn that stuff (i did it virtually)
WickedWolf191 1 year ago
it's fun, dissection was really fun back in school days, many will puke, many will not like it, who gives a shit.
killing is fun, so is opening shit up.
it is non necessary, true, but sure it's better than studying a book and writing out all the parts of the the body! murder over school work any day of the week.
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
im starting a riot in freshman year! we have to kill a frog AND a pig! WHO IS STARTING A RIOT WITH ME???
im a vegetarian. i will only cut open a carrot. :)
ROFLrhymeswithWaffle 1 year ago
we do that so kids dont have to learn about anatomy by opening up a cadaver from the street
sambluecat1 1 year ago
I never had to do that in school :/ oh well :) yay for me :)
artychick2music 1 year ago
"Oo~ I wanna learn more about this animal, lets take a knife and kill them slowly!" That makes sense!
fireqween 1 year ago
Well there is a big diffrence.. The animals are already dead.. Yeah you are right, you don´t need it if your not going to be a veterenarian nor a doctor. But we even do it with human beings to learn about the human body, its nessecary so that we can make sure that the people that are alive today, that we can take care of them if they get sick, its nessecary knowledge, and you also do it to find the reason of death on a human being in a "crime case". But yeah maybe we shouldnt do it in >school
Dimajo 1 year ago
well maybe not everyone is going to end up being an accountant. if you're going to be a vet or a doctor, these things are vital to know. plus, when we dissected a baby pig, the pig died of natural causes.
4bobbryar4 1 year ago
what do you do for a living?
SuPeRSeXyFrEeDoM 1 year ago
Bleh, I Had To Do The Owl Turd Thing Twice. :(
WhatsNotToLove2 1 year ago
I dissected a goat eye last week.
I was freaking awesome!!!
GO SCIENCE!!!!
DevilsAngle0000 1 year ago
I had to mummify a turkey. Well, not really me but my two partners. I was watching from a distance... I get my jollies by not doing creepy things. :)
ViciousBeatle 1 year ago
but in that case it actually makes since lol.
Derangedminor 1 year ago
You know if you want to be vet, you have to do all this stuff.
Misspri91 1 year ago
Maybe someone wants to be a doctor. In my school it came form a farm were the frogs died naturally.
MonetteJayLopez 1 year ago
its a life skill. to deal with dealing with gross stuff.
like changing diapers. fucking disgusting. but when i was little after our cat died i cracked his skull open and checked his brains out. then preceded to cut his belly open and check out what his last meal was. Looked like kibble and hairballs.
This interaction made changing diapers alot easier. I couldnt imagine anyone else changing my fathers diapers but me.
666ThaScarecro666 1 year ago
Last year when I did frog disection my cousin threw up from the smell. =P I hated that. Poor froggies.
wmsdclogger1123 1 year ago
They made us dissect an owl pellet...which is owls throw up basically, it was so gross i think of it to this day and gag!
AndrewPatrickBerf 1 year ago
We're about to do the frog dissection thing in a few weeks...
AnimeGirl375 1 year ago
What about doctors? I bet that helped some kids that aspire to help patients in surgery.
ThatReplyKid 1 year ago
we did that owl turd thing. LOLZ
pheelyfan1 1 year ago
so did we!! lol the teachers let us keep the bones afterward...O.o
AnimeGirl375 1 year ago
when i get to that point in school, im going to refuse to do it. I'll take an F on it, thank you.
pockyprincess12 1 year ago
I'm unlucky because in the UK we never dissect an animal :(
06stephend 1 year ago
I like the first part. They are fine with dissection in class, but I one did it on a road kill to put the bones together for an art class, and I got put in counseling. How is that fair? Just like your owl turd. Do it in class and it's fine, but do it on your own, and your a psycho? WTF?
gekynele 1 year ago
meh...teachers need to get kicks somehow o___O
redfighter479 1 year ago
I agree completely.
I almost failed my science class because I wouldn't disect a cow eye.
I almost failed, making it to where I would have had to repeat the entire semester in summer school.
I almost failed because I wouldn't play with a dead carcass.
I think the educational system.... is fucked.
Shanoa321 1 year ago
Screw the hate comments you are right!
DeadBl00d 1 year ago
they made us cut up a fish when i was in 5th grade all I wanted to do was vomit, to this day I cannot eat anything if I have to clean it of any organs or anything, I fish at costco and I eat boneless chicken and I have to cook turkey loaf for thanksgivving because I could never deal with a whole turkey and the giblets. yeah i'd say I was traumatized by it as well.
Mikej1592 1 year ago
surprisingly he makes a good argument
DoctorDiva10 1 year ago
i've never done that, we always work by pictures.
I believe doctors and scientists should be allowed to make disections, but not just every student.
When a person decides to become a doctor, they know they will need to disect other humans, they know and they agree. One does not really chose to be in school, so being forced to do something like that is just wrong.
dorinemay 2 years ago
I know it's kinda gross and wrong. :3 And students shouldn't have to do it. I defiantly agree. But I guess if they never did that long ago they wouldn't really know how to take care of us or the animals if they didn't look inside them and see what's going on. Just food for thought. :3
UtsukushiiLoli 2 years ago
Because it's fun for the whole family!
MaxNuclear 2 years ago
I think we should all do those internet dissections. Why do we look at pictures for humans and not animals? I have no clue.Why don't we dissect humans? oh yea because its WRONG! If we wouldn't rip up people, why do we rip up animals?
lastmelonproductions 2 years ago
Yeah I had to take apart an owl turd thing. It was not only gross but really unnecessary. Cause later in life I'm going to be a professional animal poop/throw up inspector right?
Makes sense. >_>
thiefessa 2 years ago
Now, Addressing this video:
I remember being asked to Dissect Pig. I was against so, and felt like declaring I was not going to participate. But that would accomplish little more than what the dissection does anyway.
So I wrote an essay explaining my feelings logically, and asked if I could instead Draw/Colour pictures of the Pigs insides. They accepted.
Which begs the question: "Why even have the expensive Dissection if you can learn the same, if not more by colouring?"
Never got an answser
Dissruptance 2 years ago