You are awesome! When wrighting this I thought about how stupid I seem compared to you, you come up with this whole video to explain your beleifs and some other things, and I express myself in: awesome. Then again, while writing that last part, I thought about how that might seem stupid. This video kinda made you my role-model
I've used this video in numerous examples, the definition of a god, the definition of atheism, the different forms of atheism, etc. It just covers all of the bases.
Just because there are atheistic religions doesn't make atheism a religion. Atheism is just a position that you can take on whether or not you believe in a god or gods. That's why a person can be an atheist, but may or may not have a religion. Buddhism is considered by many to be a religion, but it has no gods.
However, that does not mean that Atheism is a religion. There are certainly many Atheists who do not practice any form of religion, though they have strong personal beliefs.
@shrikechan I mentioned to a friend that Buddhism doesn't have any deities, and he said that there is Tara, a meditation deity. I don't know much about Buddhism. Does she/they count? Wikipedia says they're often considered metaphoric for Buddhist virtues.
@graey42 Depends on the sect of Buddhism...Buddhism as a whole tends to be atheistic and Gautama Buddha's view on theism as dangerous doesn't help the attempted theistic revision of Buddhism either.
You name yourself after the sun god ,your symbol is the hexagram and you name it zopdoz (reverse symbolism) The majority that adore you have been fed excatly what they need so if it shall ever arise they will totally dismiss it based on the science we know ...The double OZ in the name is pretty good also.Your last Obsticle is those that follow HIM! so INFIDEL is the correct term in your case because it's in there text “The world is a magician greater than Harut & Marut, and you should avoid it”
@ucanifuwant I named myself after *A* sungod, and I did that to call attention to the fact that the Abrahamic god and Christian variant of that are both depicted as sun-gods. My symbol is not a hexagram. Look up what a hexagram is, and that should be obvious immediately. My son made up the word, zopdoz because he wanted to create a word that could always be read properly on an airplane propeller. No reverse symbolism. Don't imagine what was never -and will never- be there.
@AronRa I enjoy your video's most of the time but i believe you have been misinformed regarding religion ..Quran 37 Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the sun and moon. ADORE NOT THE SUN AND THE MOON BUT ADORE ALLAH WHO CREATED THEM if it is Him ye wish to serve.which contradicts why you named yourself RA the hexagram is simple connect the dots over your triangle and what do you get ? as for zopdoz
Do you plan on putting the name on a propeller in the near future ? did'nt think so ..
@ucanifuwant Amen-Ra was a long time before the Qur'an. If you look back far enough, it becomes clear that some versions of the god of Abraham were based on sun-gods, and Amen-Ra in particular.
Also, my son and I did intend to put zopdoz on a propeller, and if you connect the dots on that design, you won't get a hexogram; you'll get a pentangle. Not a pentacle nor a pentagram, just a very strained five-sided polygon.
@AronRa the guy you are replying to here is in the early stages of finding the truth about the world and thinks that everything is a message or is speaking to him its a kind of oversensitivity to the world happens all the time but you have to move on to the different forms of the world
@ucanifuwant Good job reading into something so much that you see things that aren't even there. Learn to see things as they are instead of imagining what you want to see instead.
so many atheist dont use the word atheist. even when they admit that they dont belive in god they still do not exept the word atheist. there is stigma in that word and so many people just piss around with words.
whats with all the terms and titles, who cares of who you and anyone are. we all perceive differently. represent yourself with the knowledge you know, not unsure or not at all.
If the Force were real I think everyone would be Jedi.
Star wars may be science fantasy but in the context of the Star Wars universe people seemed to be rational while understanding the other side which was the force which actually works, I like Jedi because they also condone knowledge and is part of their tradition to know as much as they can.
Wow great combination of word WELL seeMS DONT REAlly know if i haVE heard half of them or KNOW what theY MEAN but all like to say its a great EFFOrt ,weLL may BE all U r tRYIng to say IS you are a non believer .........nways the point is if you say a thing DOES not exist you wud have to PRESUME that the thing is ......so TO BE BEliver u wud have to be a non beliver ........so THATS call the concept of duaLITY , THERE IS a thing thats many but ITS JUST THE same thing .....DiLLUSion of illusion
Just like the word 'gay' no longer has a negative conotation, we as Infidels should push for wider acceptance of that word in a neutral, even positive context by society at large. As for the symbol, I like it actually, I can definitely see it as a banner 'just for the hell of it'. Btw Aron, you have a bitchin bike! :D
@AronRa, my friend, excuse my following ramblings, I'm 4 jiggers of gin into the night. But if I'm right, I think there a further conundrum to satisfy.
@ ~1:35 I see a Zeusy looking fellow and definition of God which I like; however, I think you need to include that it "may or may not wield authority equal to/above lords, emperors or kings, may or may not have substantiated claims of immortality, may or may not be responsible for creating the universe and/or mankind, or may be unincorporated."
I find philosophy to be religion without faith, a social science that generally sucks.
I recently found out my sister is on the other side of the threshold of science today, pseudo-science, she is an Intelligent Design-ee I am crushed by her lack of faith in science... That sounds silly...
I find myself to be an Agnostic Christian, I believe in a higher power, I know the Bible is loaded with shit from the Catholic Church.
This should be several comments... YOU'RE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am having an argue with someone. She claims that there is no such thing as a religion without a god. While I and some friends of mine have tried explaining to her that buddhism or pantheism are such religions, she just won't budge. She says that the pantheist god is without a doubt a deity, a supernatural being, while we say that their god is just an emotion, not a god in it's traditional sense. I know this is not exactly your field of expertise, but could you possibly make a video about it?
Wow.. Well said. Well said. I've been trying to drive these points home to the new wave of self proclaimed atheists. I don't tend to label myself but I am comfortable being called many things, like Taoist, Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist. Note, this is just how other people label me and I wont disagree with them, I prefer to think about other things.
And actually, the correct word could be symbology as it pertains to a symbol but symbolism could also be correct depending on context.
actually a majority of satanists are atheists nowadays! and considering what music you incline to you should know that :). although i suppose that youre a kind of hard rock/heavy metal/thrash metal guy, which somewhat removes you from the heavier stuff (just an assumption based on observation).
i use my philosophy book to roll my weed ...then read a zen buddah quote watch tavis smiley jack off to sean hannity and hit the hay have i please and disgusted enough
everyones agnostic....its belief that is the question...and i think its best to believe based on evidence....i think the problem is "god" isa metaphor for what we really are...and theists as well as athiests dont realize this..they think of it as concrete..its an abstract idea being decribed with metaphors..the issue is that through the ages it got out of hand(huge understatement) lol...if someone could persuade theists that the eternal is within them not out there i think it might help
The simple "truth" is none of us really knows diddley squat. We all have our ideas about what is possible, or probable, but since there is no proof of anything we can only "guess" and relate our "guesses" to each other as the truth.
So I guess I could be considered as a "discontent seeker" because I am always striving to learn the truth but never finding it.
Nice video but what i didn't like is that when you talk about subsets of atheist for Communist you took worst possible example of Joseph Stalin, also you say "Communist" but on vid is written "Totalitarians" witch is just plain wrong, because yes Joseph Stalin was totalitarian but not all communist are and basics of communism as described by Carl Marx are non totalitarian, in fact pure communism would be classless and stateless. Sorry for my English if i miss typed anything or something.
@magxardas I really don't know anything about political systems. Despite the common accusation that all us atheists are supposed to be communists or socialists, I don't know anything about either one really , nor do I care to. So I fully expect to be corrected on that topic.
@Orthodoxcrusader I'm all for keeping Britain British, but Nick's a little OTT.
That said, the Americans are really messing up America, us Brits handed America to them in good order, well if the truth was known, they stole it from us.
I think us Brits should go over there and invade, and take it back, then we could make a decent country of the place.
Where ever theres an American there's a McDonalds and a Walmart.
A little OTT? Yeah right... Just a little...So little that the only thing missing is the crowd of his supporters cheering 'Hammer! Hammer!' or less subtly 'Sieg heil!"...
"they stole it from us."
Well when you 'steal' something from someone who actually stole it prior from an original owner it doesn't look that wrong...
Oh; Sorry; I must have been unclear... I didn't mention the GOP; They won the last elections up there and the last one took a break...
@QAndyJack I love how you complain about "bad words" being used by atheists, which you claim makes them bad people, yet you can threaten someone with with eternal torture and it is some how ok. Do you know what extortion is? Do you think it is moral? Do you know of any sane person that demands that you love him or he will torture you... FOREVER? How can you even begin to claim this is a moral standpoint?
@SimKoning: Uummm?...... When did I say "bad words make bad people?"
Are you talking about God being the one who will torture you? God's only going to give you what you want, and that will be total separation from Him, that's what you want, and thats what you will receive.
@QAndyJack Really, so all that stuff about being thrown into a furnace, being destroyed, wailing and nashing teeth, a lake of fire, a place of eternal tomrent and pain, you know, all that stuff that is ACTUALLY IN THE BIBLE is a lie? It must be nice having a religion that has nothing to do with the book you say you base it on.
@SimKoning: The nashing of teeth and all that stuff is the separartion from God, who gives us life.
When a person rejects God and His goodness, God say's, if thats what you want, thats what your recieve, out of the hands of God, into the hands of the devil, we then make our own mini hell opn earth. This is how I view it.
@AronRa Karl Marx was an ass as well so don't worry for using Stalin cause the USSR was a communist state that was ruled by a totalitarian. Communism is just an economic theory that says we don't need money and that we can all share and work to improve things. Just a rough overview of it, more complex than that like many things are.
@AronRa i think i must disagree with you on one point...i think your saying one cant posit that "god does not exist"..because god may be something you didnt think he was right?..so your saying we must address ALL POSsIBLE CONCEPTS..of god to posit he does not exist..this is not so as long we have a general understanding of what most people mean when they say
"god"...i can say "no married bachelors exist"..because its logically contradictory...100% certainty not need to have "knowledge"
This is my saying my belief structure Aron. Like you I struggled to define my place. I found my own- Aforeon which is ancient Greek for one who does not care. Shit I even have a video of a girl dancing in underwear I made and have less hits then a guy popping a Zit!
I'm glad somebody has finally addressed this issue clearly on YT. Hopefully more people can step out of the "gray area" of agnosticism/atheism and sort out their own views too.
The back-and-forth images of the pope and the emperor were hilarious.
Seems like a bog down in labels and definitions. I don't find much value in being bogged down in such things, unless of course people are squaring off and setting down some ground rules or positions.
Seriously, there is nothing like washing your bike a sunday morning before the ride... I brings me more peace and make me feel better than anthitng else.
gosh, i love all your videos. so articulate and eloquent and right on point .how anyone with a lick of sense could watch your videos and disagree is beyond me.
Even christians may referee to an "universal God" in their explanations but their conclusions are specific to a "personal God". A Universal God can have direct connection to all that's known as the Universe, but not a linguistic connections with humans - as the bible implies.
It's not that simple... Specific religions like Christianity, as in the way the Bible is understood by most followers of this religion - lead to the idea of a "Personal God" - and also take the biblical events literally, as if the bible is a book of history.
But beyond that idea of a "personal God" there is also a belief non-biblical in an "Universal God" - take Spinoza's God as example. And I believe in an "Universal God" - yet by this image, you can exclude the connection with religion.
Dodging reality? You don't get an award for defiance in ignorance named after you for merely dodging reality, you need to completely part ways with it.
@Crickett2814 Explain the link? I am a scientist, I work on facts. Facts and nothing more, he wanted proof; I have showed him proof at the similarities, I find it odd that these deities all share the same dates, same disciples, even same deaths and same resurrections, it started with Horus. Honestly, put down the bible and notice that there is a lot more books out there. If you want to make a statement like Jesus authenticity be ready to back it up. I am a scientist, I consider myself that.
I refuse to be defined by my 'not belief'' in a god. In that regard, I don't have much invested in debating believers...or non-believers. I have always been more interested in a qualiative discourse concerning the ontological 'quiddity' of what we are.
Atheism IS a form of religion, as the atheist has faith that there is no "God or higher being" when it can not be proven either way.
Ask yourself this Q, Can I be sure there is no God in all the vastness of the universe? For you to answer this Q honestly, you must know all there is to be known throughout the whole universe, this is so obviously impossible.
Yup...you have faith just like me. ;-)
If you have proof there is no God, then please prove me wrong.
@QAndyJack Atheism is an absence of religion...Here is proof that religion, God, and all other deities are all bullshit...And I have proof, base on countless of researches I've done...Ask yourself this question...What does Horus of Egypt, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra and Jesus Christ have in common. Further proof is this.... Diana of the Ephesians. Christianity transformed her into the Virgin Mary, and was a Council at Ephesus that legitimated the title “mother of god”=god is not real.
You have just rattled of several "so called gods" there can be only one true almighty, we have been given the true rule book, this has been misinterpreted, and the true message has been lost and diluted with mans own opinions.
You can not be on the fence with this religious faith issue stuff, your either with a God, or without a God. If any person has an opinion concerning God, whether for or against, this can be classed as a faith, and we know a faith is a religion.
@QAndyJack 500 characters keep this short. Faith is belief that is not based on proof. Horus born December 25. he had 12 disciples, performed miracles, Crucified and resurrected the 3rd day. Same with Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra and Jesus Christ. So therefore based on that proof alone, Christianity is nothing more that a DELUDED religion based on the ancient Egyptians. DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
Please go look at my videos on my QQOQQ account. typer "jesus the wonderful numberer" and you will see the math genius of God within scripture, this will prove to you that the Bible is inspired by God.
It's good news that God is real, the promises within scripture is for us to inherit.
@QAndyJack If the bible is the word of "as you put it, GOD." Then maybe he should have had proof readers, I know the bible, in an out, back to front, I can quote passages, please explain, if you will, genesis, chapter 1 verse 3, & genesis chapter 1, verse 16...further proving the gullible nature of the followers. I question everything I read.
@zombeepictureshow Honestly, I'm not so sure about the Horus reference you're giving. I think that came from zeitgeist and I'm pretty sure that was bunk. Can you give me a legitimate reference to find that info about Horus from somewhere other than zeitgeist that's qualified in Egyptology?
@Samuria11 I knew about that before Zeitgeist, I am a scientist, that means that I debunk theories regarding religion, but here is another one. But first there is no escaping the fact that everything that religion holds dear came from the Egyptians. But here is another one...how about Diana of the Ephesians and how she became to be known as the Virgin Mary. It is a well known fact. Although Horus was never debunk. I can go on, as a matter of fact, I think I will make a video soon.
@zombeepictureshow I’ve read “Backgrounds of early Christianity” Everett Ferguson, “Who Wrote the Bible” Richard Freidman, “Who Wrote the New Testament” Burton Mack, “The End of Biblical Studies” Hector Avalos, “Misquoting Jesus” Bart Ehrman, These two must be read together “The Case for Christ” Lee Strobel, "Challenging the Verdict” Earl Doherty... Horus is mentioned in about 2 sentences in all of that. It’s much more complicated than Bargeman would like it to be.
@zombeepictureshow I’m sorry, but you are using E. A. Wallace Budge as a source, he’s considered to be outdated. Lisa Bargeman got her ideas from him so you’ve given me one source. If you’re going to make a video I’d suggest using Raymond Faulkner’s translation of “The Book of the Dead” when you quote from if as to stay away from Budge’s work. I have read up on early Christianity and I still haven’t run into anything that makes it look like Christianity was a copy paste of Egyptian mythology...
@Samuria11 That was just on the top of my head, but if you are looking for actual proof I recommend you read Bertrand Russell, My favorite book of his is A history of western philosophy, well worth the read. But any book of his, will do. But this is one will have what you are looking for. History of Western Philosophy and Its Connection with Political and Social Circumstances from the Earliest Times to the Present Day.
@zombeepictureshow Thanks, I'll probably read that. But I guess what I've been trying to articulate is... Where in the book of the dead does it say "Horus born December 25. he had 12 disciples, performed miracles, Crucified and resurrected the 3rd day"
(BTW the new testament doesn't say Jesus was born on Christmas and most Christians know that)
@Samuria11 Tell you what, I will post a video soon, regarding similarities with Christianity and the Egyptians mythology...its all in the mathematics, I will be more precise I only have 500 characters, so I will make a video on this, a little like Zeitgeist but with mathematical accuracy...the one I am currently editing is my Evolution video, I wish I could show you now, but counting characters sucks.
@QAndyJack I don't believe in any god..I believe in Science because I am a scientist. To be more precise I am a chaos theorist to put it in simpler terms, I make everything easier to understand.
Not so, These people were professed to be christian: Neils Bohr, the atom, Louis Pasteur, the Germ Theory of Disease, Galileo Galilei, the New Science Catholic
Antoine Laurent Lavoisier, Chemistry, Johannes Kepler, Motion of the Planets, Nicolaus Copernicus, the Heliocentric Universe, Michael Faraday, the Classical Field Theory, Alexander Fleming, Penicillin, Thomas Eddison,
James Clerk Maxwell, the Electromagnetic Field, Claude Bernar, the Founding of Modern Physiology, to name a few..
@QAndyJack Galileo, Pasteur, Kepler, Copernicus all lived when it was necessity to be pious, because of the dogmatic establishment known as the Roman Catholic Church.
We see the same problem, and it is a problem, but it's not to say that there is not a true vine.
The truth of the gospel has been masculated by men and the modern church, I do not go to any church establishment, I prefer to keep away from those "white washed walls" as they are full of themselves not God. The modern day church (body of Christ) is a bad example of what should be an encouraging message, instead what do we see, rich idiots pushing vulnerable folk over, asking for money. It's a joke.
@QAndyJack it seems rather arrogant to assert that you know what someone else thinks about a particular topic. Ask most atheists point blank "Does a god exist?" And the answer will typically be I don't know. However, if you ask them "Does the christian god exist?" and they will typically answer with a simple "no"
Have you ever asked them what they think, rather than telling them what they think?
I have met with many atheists and my experience is that they all disbelieve in any kind of God.
When you dig a little further, it becomes quite obvious that they just don't hate the idea of a God, they also hate the folks who believe there is a God, specially the Christian God as portrayed in the Bible, this myself I have experienced, I paint all atheists with the same brush, they make a religion out of hating Christian folk, you can see the length some people go to on youtube..
Well, that depends on your definition of hate. Talking to people, watching videos and listening to athiests on youtube, they seem to "hate" theists in much you same way people "hate" to get the hiccups. I wouldn't say this is true of all of them........ because that would be stupid.
On the other hand, most fundamentalist theists I've run into hate other religions and the people who practice them with an incredible amount of vitriol.
I have nothing but love respect and respect for all on YT and all of mankind.
God is real, for I was a horrid piece of crap years back, how could I changed from someone who could not forgive, have a hatred towards a person I did not even know?
But now, I am a new creature in Christ, I have found the truth, those who are broken and are at the end of themselves, willing to be humbled will find the truth.
True love and peace is out there waiting for everyone.
I used to run with the Swindon Town crew back in the 80's from time to time, it was for the excitement/rush, any apposing soccer teams fans that were visiting are town used to get a beating (sometimes) except when millwall, Bristol City and Portsmouth were visiting, every soccer club used to have a hard core of 300 to 1000 violent fans.
I'm afraid to say I got mixed up with them from time to time, they hated us and we hated them.
QAndyJack "God is real, for I was a horrid piece of crap years back" The sad thing is you deserve the credit for changing your own life, yet you are giving it to someone, who for all intents and purposes, is an imaginary friend. There are Buddhist monks that have made profound changes in their lives that have nothing to do with a God or gods. I've made major changes in my life (for the better) BECAUSE I don't believe a God anymore. Scientologists claim to have changed lives! Do you believe that
I identify myself as an atheist and I don't hate Christians. My family and friends are mostly made up of Christians and I enjoy my time around them, even if we don't share the same thoughts about theism.
I would hope that with this new information you will cease painting me with that brush.
Most of my experiences with atheist are pretty bad, you just have to look at the type of language being banded around on YT from Atheist to believers.
And your bad experiences from atheists are probably from being what seems to us that you are being willfully ignorant, such as your assertion that atheism is a religion to which I'd have to say please skip to 2:25
@AronRa Goddamn, I have the perfect example of how you use faith. You believe that life formed naturally, and yet you have no real world evidence to support that belief.
In fact, to believe that the instructional systems in a cell formed without intelligence goes completely against our own observations, because the only thing we have EVER observed producing such informati
Is it just me, or does the Zopdoz look just a little like Frank Zappa?
(In my view, no bad thing if it does.)
gamesbok 1 month ago
You are awesome! When wrighting this I thought about how stupid I seem compared to you, you come up with this whole video to explain your beleifs and some other things, and I express myself in: awesome. Then again, while writing that last part, I thought about how that might seem stupid. This video kinda made you my role-model
Dragonnoodle1 1 month ago
thats actully a cool looking symbol
GodofSpanaway 3 months ago
How about Afaithist? We can still create words, right?
CATMAHAT 4 months ago
Nice bikes!
aerhearts 6 months ago
aronra this video has aided me in determining or categorizing what exactly i associate myself with ty =)
you da man'
Zanthios 6 months ago
1:42. Was deity spelled as "diety" for an intention, or is that a typo.
InferiorThanYou 6 months ago
Nihilist do not believe in nothing. Nihilists do not believe there is an objective purpose to anything and that everything is subjective.
HybridD91 6 months ago
I love the video, both the content and the visual. Casual, informative. Too bad about the little smudge on the camera. No big deal, though.
Prelude610 6 months ago
I've used this video in numerous examples, the definition of a god, the definition of atheism, the different forms of atheism, etc. It just covers all of the bases.
Kodakowl 6 months ago
Just because there are atheistic religions doesn't make atheism a religion. Atheism is just a position that you can take on whether or not you believe in a god or gods. That's why a person can be an atheist, but may or may not have a religion. Buddhism is considered by many to be a religion, but it has no gods.
However, that does not mean that Atheism is a religion. There are certainly many Atheists who do not practice any form of religion, though they have strong personal beliefs.
shrikechan 6 months ago
@shrikechan I mentioned to a friend that Buddhism doesn't have any deities, and he said that there is Tara, a meditation deity. I don't know much about Buddhism. Does she/they count? Wikipedia says they're often considered metaphoric for Buddhist virtues.
graey42 6 months ago
@graey42 Depends on the sect of Buddhism...Buddhism as a whole tends to be atheistic and Gautama Buddha's view on theism as dangerous doesn't help the attempted theistic revision of Buddhism either.
HybridD91 6 months ago
You name yourself after the sun god ,your symbol is the hexagram and you name it zopdoz (reverse symbolism) The majority that adore you have been fed excatly what they need so if it shall ever arise they will totally dismiss it based on the science we know ...The double OZ in the name is pretty good also.Your last Obsticle is those that follow HIM! so INFIDEL is the correct term in your case because it's in there text “The world is a magician greater than Harut & Marut, and you should avoid it”
ucanifuwant 6 months ago
@ucanifuwant I named myself after *A* sungod, and I did that to call attention to the fact that the Abrahamic god and Christian variant of that are both depicted as sun-gods. My symbol is not a hexagram. Look up what a hexagram is, and that should be obvious immediately. My son made up the word, zopdoz because he wanted to create a word that could always be read properly on an airplane propeller. No reverse symbolism. Don't imagine what was never -and will never- be there.
AronRa 6 months ago 8
@AronRa I enjoy your video's most of the time but i believe you have been misinformed regarding religion ..Quran 37 Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the sun and moon. ADORE NOT THE SUN AND THE MOON BUT ADORE ALLAH WHO CREATED THEM if it is Him ye wish to serve.which contradicts why you named yourself RA the hexagram is simple connect the dots over your triangle and what do you get ? as for zopdoz
Do you plan on putting the name on a propeller in the near future ? did'nt think so ..
ucanifuwant 6 months ago
@ucanifuwant Amen-Ra was a long time before the Qur'an. If you look back far enough, it becomes clear that some versions of the god of Abraham were based on sun-gods, and Amen-Ra in particular.
Also, my son and I did intend to put zopdoz on a propeller, and if you connect the dots on that design, you won't get a hexogram; you'll get a pentangle. Not a pentacle nor a pentagram, just a very strained five-sided polygon.
AronRa 6 months ago 3
@AronRa Or a groovy 70s folk band with Bert Jansch!
InfiniteTurtles 6 months ago
@ucanifuwant I forgot to mention that the sun and moon aren't 'signs' either.
AronRa 6 months ago
@AronRa the guy you are replying to here is in the early stages of finding the truth about the world and thinks that everything is a message or is speaking to him its a kind of oversensitivity to the world happens all the time but you have to move on to the different forms of the world
vajinater 4 months ago
@ucanifuwant Good job reading into something so much that you see things that aren't even there. Learn to see things as they are instead of imagining what you want to see instead.
shrikechan 6 months ago
The Umlaut is strong in you.
SeltsamerAttraktor 7 months ago
I like the vid as soon as I read the first quote.
dotdot5790 7 months ago 2
so many atheist dont use the word atheist. even when they admit that they dont belive in god they still do not exept the word atheist. there is stigma in that word and so many people just piss around with words.
gooddarkjedi 8 months ago
whats with all the terms and titles, who cares of who you and anyone are. we all perceive differently. represent yourself with the knowledge you know, not unsure or not at all.
lovetownsend 8 months ago
honest and fair enough..
17secret 8 months ago
I call myself a dysteleological physicialist.
Poleschs 9 months ago
Richard Dawkins is not a humanist, he doesn't like humanism.
Poleschs 9 months ago
If the Force were real I think everyone would be Jedi.
Star wars may be science fantasy but in the context of the Star Wars universe people seemed to be rational while understanding the other side which was the force which actually works, I like Jedi because they also condone knowledge and is part of their tradition to know as much as they can.
viicISrotcib 11 months ago
I love the Zopdoz, mainly the part about umlauts making things more metal (totally awesome)
cy4nide23 11 months ago 2
I'm an Aronist
Don't lead me astray
xESOTERlC 1 year ago
why did you use that picture of Liam Neeson when you said Taoist when listing atheistic religions?
AidanTAKFW 1 year ago
@AidanTAKFW The Jedi religion was based largely on Taoism.
AronRa 11 months ago 8
Say what you want about the tenants of national socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
suumr 1 year ago
Wow great combination of word WELL seeMS DONT REAlly know if i haVE heard half of them or KNOW what theY MEAN but all like to say its a great EFFOrt ,weLL may BE all U r tRYIng to say IS you are a non believer .........nways the point is if you say a thing DOES not exist you wud have to PRESUME that the thing is ......so TO BE BEliver u wud have to be a non beliver ........so THATS call the concept of duaLITY , THERE IS a thing thats many but ITS JUST THE same thing .....DiLLUSion of illusion
jimmyvalentine008 1 year ago
Just like the word 'gay' no longer has a negative conotation, we as Infidels should push for wider acceptance of that word in a neutral, even positive context by society at large. As for the symbol, I like it actually, I can definitely see it as a banner 'just for the hell of it'. Btw Aron, you have a bitchin bike! :D
njintau 1 year ago
But if we don't have symbols, how are we going to kill people with different symbols?
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
Wanna trade my Articuno for your 'Zopdoz'?
June28July 1 year ago
Frisbeetarianism the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck is my belife.
AndersenYessir 1 year ago
Out of curiosity, was your son's picking of the name "zopdoz" based in part on how "zopdoz" looks very much the same when it is rotated 180°?
lhvinny 1 year ago
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Nothing wrong with opening ones eyes to concepts that one would not explore do to merely disliking it... with in reason anyway...
Side note, could you make this video downloadable? or the script...
BlitzNeko 1 year ago
Nothing wrong with opening ones eyes to concepts that one would not explore do to merely disliking it... with in reason anyway...
Side note, could you make this video downloadable?
BlitzNeko 1 year ago
Also, see you Thursday?
Pope2501 1 year ago
@AronRa, my friend, excuse my following ramblings, I'm 4 jiggers of gin into the night. But if I'm right, I think there a further conundrum to satisfy.
@ ~1:35 I see a Zeusy looking fellow and definition of God which I like; however, I think you need to include that it "may or may not wield authority equal to/above lords, emperors or kings, may or may not have substantiated claims of immortality, may or may not be responsible for creating the universe and/or mankind, or may be unincorporated."
Pope2501 1 year ago
Haha Willem Dafoe makes such a scary gay detective.
un2mensch 1 year ago
first quote is one of the best quotes ever, straight to the point and the point is exactly on point
blazereef 1 year ago
@DracolX: "instructional systems in a cell" DNA is a chemical compound, not a instructional system.
Alphqwe 1 year ago
Damn, you've got some nice bikes.
00L1nk00 1 year ago
Nowadays I specify my position by saying that I am skeptical of all religious and/or theistic claims.
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
many theists are agnostic but don't know it
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
I find philosophy to be religion without faith, a social science that generally sucks.
I recently found out my sister is on the other side of the threshold of science today, pseudo-science, she is an Intelligent Design-ee I am crushed by her lack of faith in science... That sounds silly...
I find myself to be an Agnostic Christian, I believe in a higher power, I know the Bible is loaded with shit from the Catholic Church.
This should be several comments... YOU'RE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kodakowl 1 year ago
a. Stalin wasn't a communist
b. pantheists, such as Einstein, do believe in a god but the god works through the laws of nature
otherwise great video :)
7Stephen7Nichols7 1 year ago
I am having an argue with someone. She claims that there is no such thing as a religion without a god. While I and some friends of mine have tried explaining to her that buddhism or pantheism are such religions, she just won't budge. She says that the pantheist god is without a doubt a deity, a supernatural being, while we say that their god is just an emotion, not a god in it's traditional sense. I know this is not exactly your field of expertise, but could you possibly make a video about it?
valcearulz 1 year ago
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Shydrow 1 year ago
You are a wise man, Aron. And you've got a couple of seriously sweet machines there! Gratz on a great vid! : )
Hedningfaen 1 year ago
Great video all-around and lol @ 8:23, good shit.
k1llk1ngph30n1x 1 year ago
Surely, Mr Ra, sir, you are a motorcyclist? (In that you believe in motorcycles)
athywren 1 year ago
Wow.. Well said. Well said. I've been trying to drive these points home to the new wave of self proclaimed atheists. I don't tend to label myself but I am comfortable being called many things, like Taoist, Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist. Note, this is just how other people label me and I wont disagree with them, I prefer to think about other things.
And actually, the correct word could be symbology as it pertains to a symbol but symbolism could also be correct depending on context.
jacksawild 1 year ago
That clip from Boondock Saints was the first thing that popped into my mind when I started loading this video. Well played sir!
TheOmegadusk 1 year ago
actually a majority of satanists are atheists nowadays! and considering what music you incline to you should know that :). although i suppose that youre a kind of hard rock/heavy metal/thrash metal guy, which somewhat removes you from the heavier stuff (just an assumption based on observation).
Blackerer 1 year ago
"I leave symbols to the symbol-minded" - George Carlin
merrett 1 year ago
edit * pleased and disgusted you enough*
adrianeaglrck 1 year ago
i use my philosophy book to roll my weed ...then read a zen buddah quote watch tavis smiley jack off to sean hannity and hit the hay have i please and disgusted enough
adrianeaglrck 1 year ago
poor motherfucker
Franz49125 1 year ago
very good !!
toprankingsound 1 year ago
everyones agnostic....its belief that is the question...and i think its best to believe based on evidence....i think the problem is "god" isa metaphor for what we really are...and theists as well as athiests dont realize this..they think of it as concrete..its an abstract idea being decribed with metaphors..the issue is that through the ages it got out of hand(huge understatement) lol...if someone could persuade theists that the eternal is within them not out there i think it might help
arkee71 1 year ago
0:01-0:11 Nice!
xXMrGreenEyes24Xx 1 year ago
Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance much?
PreMortemFool 1 year ago
Nice video but the background noise was very distracting.
myriadcorp 1 year ago
Brilliantly explained
Plecter 1 year ago
it took me an hour 2 watch this......good stuff
FuckJeffG0ldblum 1 year ago
I hate religion.
The simple "truth" is none of us really knows diddley squat. We all have our ideas about what is possible, or probable, but since there is no proof of anything we can only "guess" and relate our "guesses" to each other as the truth.
So I guess I could be considered as a "discontent seeker" because I am always striving to learn the truth but never finding it.
rhocando 1 year ago
Next time there is a census in my country I will put my religion as Infidel.
Who's with me.
celshader 1 year ago
Nice video but what i didn't like is that when you talk about subsets of atheist for Communist you took worst possible example of Joseph Stalin, also you say "Communist" but on vid is written "Totalitarians" witch is just plain wrong, because yes Joseph Stalin was totalitarian but not all communist are and basics of communism as described by Carl Marx are non totalitarian, in fact pure communism would be classless and stateless. Sorry for my English if i miss typed anything or something.
magxardas 1 year ago 4
@magxardas I really don't know anything about political systems. Despite the common accusation that all us atheists are supposed to be communists or socialists, I don't know anything about either one really , nor do I care to. So I fully expect to be corrected on that topic.
AronRa 1 year ago 6
@AronRa They have just had fresh elections in hell, and the communists won, so I guess you'll have to follow them..
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack
Actually the BNP won the last elections there in hell...
It was almost a tie between them, NSDAP(1920-1945) and the United Stalinists...
And now they're all preparing a big ceremony for Nicks' arrival!
Orthodoxcrusader 1 year ago
@Orthodoxcrusader I'm all for keeping Britain British, but Nick's a little OTT.
That said, the Americans are really messing up America, us Brits handed America to them in good order, well if the truth was known, they stole it from us.
I think us Brits should go over there and invade, and take it back, then we could make a decent country of the place.
Where ever theres an American there's a McDonalds and a Walmart.
That should piss a few of you off!
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack
A little OTT? Yeah right... Just a little...So little that the only thing missing is the crowd of his supporters cheering 'Hammer! Hammer!' or less subtly 'Sieg heil!"...
"they stole it from us."
Well when you 'steal' something from someone who actually stole it prior from an original owner it doesn't look that wrong...
Oh; Sorry; I must have been unclear... I didn't mention the GOP; They won the last elections up there and the last one took a break...
Orthodoxcrusader 1 year ago
@QAndyJack I love how you complain about "bad words" being used by atheists, which you claim makes them bad people, yet you can threaten someone with with eternal torture and it is some how ok. Do you know what extortion is? Do you think it is moral? Do you know of any sane person that demands that you love him or he will torture you... FOREVER? How can you even begin to claim this is a moral standpoint?
SimKoning 1 year ago
@SimKoning: Uummm?...... When did I say "bad words make bad people?"
Are you talking about God being the one who will torture you? God's only going to give you what you want, and that will be total separation from Him, that's what you want, and thats what you will receive.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack Really, so all that stuff about being thrown into a furnace, being destroyed, wailing and nashing teeth, a lake of fire, a place of eternal tomrent and pain, you know, all that stuff that is ACTUALLY IN THE BIBLE is a lie? It must be nice having a religion that has nothing to do with the book you say you base it on.
SimKoning 1 year ago
@SimKoning: The nashing of teeth and all that stuff is the separartion from God, who gives us life.
When a person rejects God and His goodness, God say's, if thats what you want, thats what your recieve, out of the hands of God, into the hands of the devil, we then make our own mini hell opn earth. This is how I view it.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack "They have just had fresh elections in hell, and the communists won"
That's strange, I don't remember the communists winning any seats in Detroit.
Raptor302 1 year ago
@AronRa Karl Marx was an ass as well so don't worry for using Stalin cause the USSR was a communist state that was ruled by a totalitarian. Communism is just an economic theory that says we don't need money and that we can all share and work to improve things. Just a rough overview of it, more complex than that like many things are.
Shydrow 1 year ago
@AronRa i think i must disagree with you on one point...i think your saying one cant posit that "god does not exist"..because god may be something you didnt think he was right?..so your saying we must address ALL POSsIBLE CONCEPTS..of god to posit he does not exist..this is not so as long we have a general understanding of what most people mean when they say
"god"...i can say "no married bachelors exist"..because its logically contradictory...100% certainty not need to have "knowledge"
arkee71 1 year ago
Hey folks. How about Saganist? With Carl Sagan (science be upon him) as our prophet.
isamu135 1 year ago
good work
Noah2112 1 year ago
Strangely enough Aron, I couldn't picture you using any other form of transport.
Guncriminal 1 year ago 20
Amazing video, thank you AronRa!
tiznogodz 1 year ago
I like this video. Sometimes we have to take a break from debate and crack open to dictionary to learn exactly what we are trying to say.
TekLok 1 year ago
Humanity has outlived every religion;
it will surpass yours,
Believe in yourself, help others do likewise,
and you will improve humanity.
This is my saying my belief structure Aron. Like you I struggled to define my place. I found my own- Aforeon which is ancient Greek for one who does not care. Shit I even have a video of a girl dancing in underwear I made and have less hits then a guy popping a Zit!
gugaberg123 1 year ago
Nice bike - I work for Victory and we are on the same page intellectually. I like your video's - please keep it going!
mikepeare 1 year ago
hey aronra, where can i find the graphic that you show about " the descent of the modernists"
theeyeisblind 1 year ago
Thanks for the video.
I'm glad somebody has finally addressed this issue clearly on YT. Hopefully more people can step out of the "gray area" of agnosticism/atheism and sort out their own views too.
The back-and-forth images of the pope and the emperor were hilarious.
stovetop32 1 year ago
I got the Zopdoz as my profile pic now. You & your son have started a movement :P
kommissarw 1 year ago
Of course, no symbols....we wouldn't want anyone to know we are among them, right?
Let's all just stay in the closet.
ATHEISTATOM 1 year ago
Symbols??... We don't need no... stinkin' symbols!
;)
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
@MethodicalMadness Treasure of the Sierra madre a la religion? :)
henjokongo 1 year ago
@henjokongo Damn skippy!
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
What religions are wrong and right? - iuchat . com
MsTashaPeterson 1 year ago
I think absolute faith corrupts to an even greater degree than absolute power for two reasons.
1. If faith blinds one to truth, then absolute faith can blind one to all truth -- including the truth of one's errors.
2. Absolute power is not an absolute corrupter -- though it is a very strong attractor for those who are already corrupt.
MultiSteveB 1 year ago
Admit it, AronRa. You just wanted to show off your awesome motorcycles, didn't you? I'm on to you! ;D
bynxrufus 1 year ago
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Admit it, AronRa. You just wanted to show off your awesome motorcycles, didn't you? I'm on to you! ;D
bynxrufus 1 year ago
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Admit it, AronRa. You just wanted to show off your awesome motorcycles, didn't you? I'm on to you! ;D
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bynxrufus 1 year ago
nice ride you have!
Piersmaru 1 year ago
AraonRa this isn't particularly germane to the faith/rejection thereof discussion, but I get the impression that you like some truly terrible music
ak47mustang 1 year ago
Best video ive seen in ages, nice one
glnwls2k 1 year ago
The best was to be is simply philosopher without any addition. As in "lover of wisdom".
Kitt0000 1 year ago
You need to make a shirt of the zopdoz and sell it. I and all my friends would buy it. Also, Praise be to the Metal Gods.
yocuck 1 year ago
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yocuck 1 year ago
HAHA I love how you quote kirk cameron!
WRAYDAY 1 year ago
Seems like a bog down in labels and definitions. I don't find much value in being bogged down in such things, unless of course people are squaring off and setting down some ground rules or positions.
malignantpoodle 1 year ago
Shiny!
I sold my motorcycle after too many near death incidents (i still have daymares).
Thanks for sharing.
ThorGoLucky 1 year ago
This video convinced me to subscribe.
Shawnruss 1 year ago
AronRa's a hairy biker...
watch?v=QHvrkqMei4c&playnext_from=TL&videos=P4DE8jDtRxo
QAndyJack 1 year ago
I found my next tattoo
jsullivan80 1 year ago
Fav and thumb up for the tiny water bucket :P
Seriously, there is nothing like washing your bike a sunday morning before the ride... I brings me more peace and make me feel better than anthitng else.
Thanks for the vid, I like your views.
WinterWezo 1 year ago
i was gonna get that tattooed until i read what you wrote at the end. "We don't need symbols... we should not be defined by what we are not."
sleach060689 1 year ago
pure genius. nice bikes btw.
executionerofgod 1 year ago
Wow....excelletnt as usual! There's enough to keep me thinking for a looooooong time! Thanx! :)
HisTruthbeUNKOWN 1 year ago
gosh, i love all your videos. so articulate and eloquent and right on point .how anyone with a lick of sense could watch your videos and disagree is beyond me.
raecelestek 1 year ago
Even christians may referee to an "universal God" in their explanations but their conclusions are specific to a "personal God". A Universal God can have direct connection to all that's known as the Universe, but not a linguistic connections with humans - as the bible implies.
XSAlliN 1 year ago
It's not that simple... Specific religions like Christianity, as in the way the Bible is understood by most followers of this religion - lead to the idea of a "Personal God" - and also take the biblical events literally, as if the bible is a book of history.
But beyond that idea of a "personal God" there is also a belief non-biblical in an "Universal God" - take Spinoza's God as example. And I believe in an "Universal God" - yet by this image, you can exclude the connection with religion.
XSAlliN 1 year ago
Seriously, I love you man.
This video has cleared up alot for me. I am an infidel.
Peace and thanks. :)
akrulla 1 year ago
Great post AronRa, thanks for taking the time to post it!
youtubuzr 1 year ago
Andy Jack signing out for the night..
Time for beddy bye'zzzzzzzzzzzzzz;-)
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QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack 10 points for dodging reality.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow
Dodging reality? You don't get an award for defiance in ignorance named after you for merely dodging reality, you need to completely part ways with it.
watch?v=t1ILwAWEDPQ
Crickett2814 1 year ago
@Crickett2814 Explain the link? I am a scientist, I work on facts. Facts and nothing more, he wanted proof; I have showed him proof at the similarities, I find it odd that these deities all share the same dates, same disciples, even same deaths and same resurrections, it started with Horus. Honestly, put down the bible and notice that there is a lot more books out there. If you want to make a statement like Jesus authenticity be ready to back it up. I am a scientist, I consider myself that.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
I refuse to be defined by my 'not belief'' in a god. In that regard, I don't have much invested in debating believers...or non-believers. I have always been more interested in a qualiative discourse concerning the ontological 'quiddity' of what we are.
toecutterr6 1 year ago
Atheism IS a form of religion, as the atheist has faith that there is no "God or higher being" when it can not be proven either way.
Ask yourself this Q, Can I be sure there is no God in all the vastness of the universe? For you to answer this Q honestly, you must know all there is to be known throughout the whole universe, this is so obviously impossible.
Yup...you have faith just like me. ;-)
If you have proof there is no God, then please prove me wrong.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack Atheism is an absence of religion...Here is proof that religion, God, and all other deities are all bullshit...And I have proof, base on countless of researches I've done...Ask yourself this question...What does Horus of Egypt, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra and Jesus Christ have in common. Further proof is this.... Diana of the Ephesians. Christianity transformed her into the Virgin Mary, and was a Council at Ephesus that legitimated the title “mother of god”=god is not real.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
You have just rattled of several "so called gods" there can be only one true almighty, we have been given the true rule book, this has been misinterpreted, and the true message has been lost and diluted with mans own opinions.
You can not be on the fence with this religious faith issue stuff, your either with a God, or without a God. If any person has an opinion concerning God, whether for or against, this can be classed as a faith, and we know a faith is a religion.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack 500 characters keep this short. Faith is belief that is not based on proof. Horus born December 25. he had 12 disciples, performed miracles, Crucified and resurrected the 3rd day. Same with Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra and Jesus Christ. So therefore based on that proof alone, Christianity is nothing more that a DELUDED religion based on the ancient Egyptians. DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
I know the Bible is the word of God.
Please go look at my videos on my QQOQQ account. typer "jesus the wonderful numberer" and you will see the math genius of God within scripture, this will prove to you that the Bible is inspired by God.
It's good news that God is real, the promises within scripture is for us to inherit.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack If the bible is the word of "as you put it, GOD." Then maybe he should have had proof readers, I know the bible, in an out, back to front, I can quote passages, please explain, if you will, genesis, chapter 1 verse 3, & genesis chapter 1, verse 16...further proving the gullible nature of the followers. I question everything I read.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
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"And God said, "Let there be light" and there was light."
We do not know exactly how God did it, the light was probably the formation of the stars.
"And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also."
These 2 light's were probably the sun and our moon...
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack and you "will see the math genius of God" You mean like how it gets Pi wrong?
SimKoning 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow Honestly, I'm not so sure about the Horus reference you're giving. I think that came from zeitgeist and I'm pretty sure that was bunk. Can you give me a legitimate reference to find that info about Horus from somewhere other than zeitgeist that's qualified in Egyptology?
Samuria11 1 year ago
@Samuria11 I knew about that before Zeitgeist, I am a scientist, that means that I debunk theories regarding religion, but here is another one. But first there is no escaping the fact that everything that religion holds dear came from the Egyptians. But here is another one...how about Diana of the Ephesians and how she became to be known as the Virgin Mary. It is a well known fact. Although Horus was never debunk. I can go on, as a matter of fact, I think I will make a video soon.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow please just answer the question so I can see it for myself. thx
Samuria11 1 year ago
I sent you a IM
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow I’ve read “Backgrounds of early Christianity” Everett Ferguson, “Who Wrote the Bible” Richard Freidman, “Who Wrote the New Testament” Burton Mack, “The End of Biblical Studies” Hector Avalos, “Misquoting Jesus” Bart Ehrman, These two must be read together “The Case for Christ” Lee Strobel, "Challenging the Verdict” Earl Doherty... Horus is mentioned in about 2 sentences in all of that. It’s much more complicated than Bargeman would like it to be.
Samuria11 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow I’m sorry, but you are using E. A. Wallace Budge as a source, he’s considered to be outdated. Lisa Bargeman got her ideas from him so you’ve given me one source. If you’re going to make a video I’d suggest using Raymond Faulkner’s translation of “The Book of the Dead” when you quote from if as to stay away from Budge’s work. I have read up on early Christianity and I still haven’t run into anything that makes it look like Christianity was a copy paste of Egyptian mythology...
Samuria11 1 year ago
@Samuria11 That was just on the top of my head, but if you are looking for actual proof I recommend you read Bertrand Russell, My favorite book of his is A history of western philosophy, well worth the read. But any book of his, will do. But this is one will have what you are looking for. History of Western Philosophy and Its Connection with Political and Social Circumstances from the Earliest Times to the Present Day.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow Thanks, I'll probably read that. But I guess what I've been trying to articulate is... Where in the book of the dead does it say "Horus born December 25. he had 12 disciples, performed miracles, Crucified and resurrected the 3rd day"
(BTW the new testament doesn't say Jesus was born on Christmas and most Christians know that)
Samuria11 1 year ago
@Samuria11 Tell you what, I will post a video soon, regarding similarities with Christianity and the Egyptians mythology...its all in the mathematics, I will be more precise I only have 500 characters, so I will make a video on this, a little like Zeitgeist but with mathematical accuracy...the one I am currently editing is my Evolution video, I wish I could show you now, but counting characters sucks.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow sounds good, so long as it's not equivalent to the bible code
Samuria11 1 year ago
@Samuria11 None of that, it will be strictly scientific.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow I to am also a scientist, you come into my kitchen and there's all sorts of experiments going on in there...
Dear o dear! I need a wife that can cook...
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@Samuria11
Horus was an Egyptian god, said to be the "god of the kings"..
Do you believe in horus? ;-)
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack I don't believe in any god..I believe in Science because I am a scientist. To be more precise I am a chaos theorist to put it in simpler terms, I make everything easier to understand.
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QAndyJack 1 year ago
@zombeepictureshow Many of the founding fathers of science were strong believers, having faith in God and science do not have to conflict.
Sounds like your job is fun, nice to talk.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack Most of the founding fathers in fact wanted nothing to do with Christianity, and in fact were mostly deist.
759009946576 1 year ago
Not so, These people were professed to be christian: Neils Bohr, the atom, Louis Pasteur, the Germ Theory of Disease, Galileo Galilei, the New Science Catholic
Antoine Laurent Lavoisier, Chemistry, Johannes Kepler, Motion of the Planets, Nicolaus Copernicus, the Heliocentric Universe, Michael Faraday, the Classical Field Theory, Alexander Fleming, Penicillin, Thomas Eddison,
James Clerk Maxwell, the Electromagnetic Field, Claude Bernar, the Founding of Modern Physiology, to name a few..
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack Galileo, Pasteur, Kepler, Copernicus all lived when it was necessity to be pious, because of the dogmatic establishment known as the Roman Catholic Church.
759009946576 1 year ago
We see the same problem, and it is a problem, but it's not to say that there is not a true vine.
The truth of the gospel has been masculated by men and the modern church, I do not go to any church establishment, I prefer to keep away from those "white washed walls" as they are full of themselves not God. The modern day church (body of Christ) is a bad example of what should be an encouraging message, instead what do we see, rich idiots pushing vulnerable folk over, asking for money. It's a joke.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
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@QAndyJack "You have just rattled of several "so called gods" there can be only one true almighty" How do you know that?
SimKoning 1 year ago
@QAndyJack it seems rather arrogant to assert that you know what someone else thinks about a particular topic. Ask most atheists point blank "Does a god exist?" And the answer will typically be I don't know. However, if you ask them "Does the christian god exist?" and they will typically answer with a simple "no"
Have you ever asked them what they think, rather than telling them what they think?
Samuria11 1 year ago
I have met with many atheists and my experience is that they all disbelieve in any kind of God.
When you dig a little further, it becomes quite obvious that they just don't hate the idea of a God, they also hate the folks who believe there is a God, specially the Christian God as portrayed in the Bible, this myself I have experienced, I paint all atheists with the same brush, they make a religion out of hating Christian folk, you can see the length some people go to on youtube..
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack
Well, that depends on your definition of hate. Talking to people, watching videos and listening to athiests on youtube, they seem to "hate" theists in much you same way people "hate" to get the hiccups. I wouldn't say this is true of all of them........ because that would be stupid.
On the other hand, most fundamentalist theists I've run into hate other religions and the people who practice them with an incredible amount of vitriol.
Crickett2814 1 year ago
Hi Crick, long time no slander ;-)
I have nothing but love respect and respect for all on YT and all of mankind.
God is real, for I was a horrid piece of crap years back, how could I changed from someone who could not forgive, have a hatred towards a person I did not even know?
But now, I am a new creature in Christ, I have found the truth, those who are broken and are at the end of themselves, willing to be humbled will find the truth.
True love and peace is out there waiting for everyone.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack
How could you hate someone you never met? Oh, that's an easy one. Its the result of painting a large group of people with the same brush.
Or did you forget that you admitted you do that...... in the comment section of this video........ yesterday.
Crickett2814 1 year ago
I used to run with the Swindon Town crew back in the 80's from time to time, it was for the excitement/rush, any apposing soccer teams fans that were visiting are town used to get a beating (sometimes) except when millwall, Bristol City and Portsmouth were visiting, every soccer club used to have a hard core of 300 to 1000 violent fans.
I'm afraid to say I got mixed up with them from time to time, they hated us and we hated them.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
QAndyJack "God is real, for I was a horrid piece of crap years back" The sad thing is you deserve the credit for changing your own life, yet you are giving it to someone, who for all intents and purposes, is an imaginary friend. There are Buddhist monks that have made profound changes in their lives that have nothing to do with a God or gods. I've made major changes in my life (for the better) BECAUSE I don't believe a God anymore. Scientologists claim to have changed lives! Do you believe that
SimKoning 1 year ago
@SimKoning: I can't talk now, I have to go to Bristol.
I will talk later, if I get chance.
Laters....
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack
I identify myself as an atheist and I don't hate Christians. My family and friends are mostly made up of Christians and I enjoy my time around them, even if we don't share the same thoughts about theism.
I would hope that with this new information you will cease painting me with that brush.
Samuria11 1 year ago
@Samuria11
Do you have a secret dislike of them?
Most of my experiences with atheist are pretty bad, you just have to look at the type of language being banded around on YT from Atheist to believers.
QAndyJack 1 year ago
@QAndyJack LOL, ummm... no, I don't have a secret dislike for my friends and family. My thoughts would be more along these lines.
watch?v=98dGmkOJEnY&playnext_from=TL&videos=8twlq6wFPBY
And your bad experiences from atheists are probably from being what seems to us that you are being willfully ignorant, such as your assertion that atheism is a religion to which I'd have to say please skip to 2:25
watch?v=I92vQ0Nj4LA&playnext_from=TL&videos=6AxuuvppQAY
Samuria11 1 year ago
@QAndyJack I have many Christian friends...
SimKoning 1 year ago
@QAndyJack An evidently justified lack of conviction is the opposite of faith.
AronRa 1 year ago 4
@AronRa Goddamn, I have the perfect example of how you use faith. You believe that life formed naturally, and yet you have no real world evidence to support that belief.
In fact, to believe that the instructional systems in a cell formed without intelligence goes completely against our own observations, because the only thing we have EVER observed producing such informati