BookTV: Hitchens, Karabell, and Kirsch debate Religion (1)

[DoubterApe]

The Fascist Crackpot Sent Me Here! :D

[vashna3799]

I have seen my lord and saviour and it is indeed the flying spaghetti monster .Repent !

[writersblock26]

Thank you for posting this, rabidbear8.

[az091186]

Horrendous wig

[HumaninSeoul]

Does Karabell understand the words coming out of his mouth? rambling bast@ard

[callishka]

This is one of the most frustrating debates I've ever seen. The degree to which Hitchens' opponents miss the point is matched only by the degree to which he makes his point starkly clear.

[pervertedmind]

Nice front cover for the bible.

[andrjsh]

Hitchens makes the valid point that one should use one's reason, but he lapses into unreasonableness when he asserts that since we are "half a chromosome away" from chimps, (biologically and genetically true) religion defaults to a simian exercise. Chimps use trees as their cathedrals, while men summon up Chartres, Haghia Sophia, and La Sagrada Familia. Chimps pound their chests but men make chant. (I also suspect that if Hitchen's did not have a British accent, he would have much less kick)

[baigandine]

I don't think we're an era of fanaticism. On the contrary, we are recognizing it's fanatical, contrasted with the relatively reasonable era we are in.

[BARCACROSSESTHEALPS]

MAN>god

[OhMyGoddlessGamer]

@BARCACROSSESTHEALPS 6,000,000,000>0 or existence>non-existence maybe reality vs. concept would be another way of viewing I suppose.

[highlanderdurp]

@BARCACROSSESTHEALPS flying spaghetti monster > jesus

[lollygager3664]

Fellatio is how you "make friends in the book business."

[ryandunk12345]

Karabell is a b**ch, I'm not impressed.

[DonJulioBlanco2002]

Agreed, he drones on and on here and says nothing...

[Domzdream]

And here (6:35) we see religion trying to adapt I think to modern times. Meaning, it has to adapt to nowadays standards of life and social structure, and how religions has to fit in with the political changes and it's following changes. Like, apologists will insist on texts being metaphorical and not literal interpretations.

[YouCashAds]

Hitchens is Jewish btw! Look it up. It is true.

[irishmauddib]

He mentions it in a lot of his debates. Im not sure what your point is. I am catholic by birth but not in practise or in beleifs. So what is the point?

[Inferno41]

bahaha, "catholic" is not an ethnic group, you're comparing apples and oranges.

[irishmauddib]

LOL not at all. Actually my intention was to point out the difference BETWEEN apples and oranges.

YOUcash espoused a point that I am making the presumption is based on hitchens being an atheist jew. I am point out here that there is a difference between being a jew by practise and being a jew by birth.

So my point is to confront YOUcash and ask him what he thinks he means by saying Hitchens is a jew. He obviously hopes to acheive something between the cultural and the faith overlap

[amazingjames311]

"'catholic" is not an ethnic group"

tell that the irish/scott's.

[TommyOfMercia]

And the Spanish and the Italians and the Columbians and the Mexicans ad infinitum. Catholic is not an ethnic group, tell it to whoever you like.

[thetornado]

Scots are typically atheist (one of the first atheist martyrs was Scott) or presbyterian. There have been virtually NO catholic Scots since 1560.

[writersblock26]

@thetornado I wonder why that is. Perhaps it has something to do with the ease with which the Enlightenment permeated the ranks of the Scottish academy. After all, both David Hume and Adam Smith were both non-believers, or at the very most, Deists.

[Superphilipp]

"catholic by birth" ... What an absurd concept. Were you trying to make a hyperbole of the irony of his statement?

[irishmauddib]

I am catholic by birth in the same way I am irish by birth. I was born into a catholic community, of catholic parents. To a lot of people this is enough to make you catholic. To jews it means you are always a jew whether you want to be or not. And it is to this fact that YouCash appeals to in the original comment above.

[Superphilipp]

I agree, but it's a silly concept. I am trying to not let things like "catholic by birth" pass uncommented.

[irishmauddib]

Yes it is a silly comment. But it was intentionally silly to highlight the sillyness of YouCash claiming hitchens is jewish.

[HarveyBirdmanTk421]

Im 'catholic by birth' and anti religion because of reading.

[Superphilipp]

You're not catholic by birth, but by upbringing. That's a huge difference.

[bbammel0003]

I agree with Superphilipp. "Catholic" is not an ethnic group like "Jewish" is. You can't be catholic by birth. That is a ridiculous statement.

[siavash8p]

Why is carrothead moderating this shit?

[audioslave8]

and who knew carrothead was jewish?

[mavaddat]

Zachary Karabell comes off as a smart guy.

[Davor000]

Nah, that was Hitchens.

[mavaddat]

I already knew that though. This was my first time seeing Karabell.