SSD vs HDD Boot+Launching 50 applications (Crucial 64GB SSD X2 Raid 0 vs WD 250 GB HDD X2 Raid 0)

[Deses]

0:53 for actual vídeo

[TheHeew]

HOLY SHIT. those editing softwares just opened like THAT!. 

[galenrivera512]

I want this video on my FIRE XT phone.

[HurizenIT]

Thumbs up if you know this song because of Guitar Hero

[IntensiveBytes]

haha the football player lagged

[hahaifartedagain]

pretty impressive. you must've already maxed out the bandwidth for the southbridge

[ehabcharek]

what does SSD stands for?



[hahaifartedagain]

@ehabcharek Solid State Drive. It means that it stores data using logic gates, similar to the way that memory cards or RAM stores data.

[LandonHeat]

@ehabcharek solid state drive

[nikchess2]

@ehabcharek solid state drive... its like RAM

[nicolasmartins59]

Cliffs of Dover!

That's it!!!!!!!

[98123220]

1:23 eu ja tava convencido do ssd kkk

[mpmdnf]

HDD max. 10TB

SDD max. 1TB

¬¬'

[Elliot0k]

this was really helpful, thanks!

[WolneyCrazy]

lol

[dummiexx2]

WTF GIMMIE THAT COMP

[hjalmarBuoi]

lol i got an idea

Autostart links to all pr0n sites at startup

first thing with SSD :D

[Euphonium1996]

you sure have a lot of money to invest in those SSDs O_o

is there a compromise for those who have, say, about 75% less for their computer budget?

[JorgeOliveraJO]

I love how the majority of the video was the HDD loading xD

I love my SSD (Crucial C300, 128GB)

[m4ssee]

That's one slow ssd. I have OCZ Agility 3 which writes and reads more than 500 mbp/s.

[ballsthatclank]

So, you install your OS on an SSD and any labor intensive programs/games that you frequently use also?

You just store crap like photos and whatever on your hdd?

[JAF5537]

Poor hard drives.

[sorinbrocker]

What is the name of melody? can you mail me please at sorinbrocker@yahoo.com

[TheWinston1997]

Humiliation

[CosplayerTheRealLink]

Nice video! Done a few of these as well.

[iAkOu1]

2:03 lol.... bittorent

[odiebugs]

Do Not Buy A MoBo with a Marvell 9128 controller, it is total garbage. Wait for LGA 2011, or get a Z68 and use the chipset controller.

[sang3Eta]

SSD degrades over time. I think I read somewhere 3 year life with 17Gb write per day or something like that. The RE drives should last your lifetime.

[blarson12]

Does anyone know what the song is called with the guitar playing?

[carefulwiththat]

I'm building my first rig, and have been considering both(ssd for the games and other stuff and a HDD for general storage). Would that be the way to go?

[dongman78]

@carefulwiththat yes

[blarson12]

@carefulwiththat SSDs are way to expensive right now. I would go with a 10k RPM Raptor instead.

[carefulwiththat]

@blarson12 Yeah, I think it's around $160 for a 120GB SSD. I'm still shopping around, so I'll consider that. Thanks for the info dude.

[blarson12]

@carefulwiththat A 160$?! In that case go for the SSD.

[MrMiMoCo1]

What Is A Music|&

[MichaelYoshiFan]

i have 250 Gb hdd; D

[jleavett]

Be aware though that traditional hard drives still outperform SSD for sequential read and writes while ssd is much better for random access. Video editing will be better if your files are stored on traditional drives. Gaming and general program startup much better on ssd. Best solution is to get an SSD for OS and program installations and store your files on traditional drives (veloceraptor if you can afford it) in raid 0. Raid really helps with sequential reads and video editing.

[dongman78]

@jleavett That depends on what SSD you're using and how many HDDs you have in raid. These older Vertex 2's in raid 0 can reach 500+MBps sequential reads already. 2 Velociraptors in raid 0 would only reach 250MBps. The newer Vertex 3's achieve 1,049MBps. If you have 10 velociraptors, you could beat a single SSD in terms of sequential performance but in random i/o they wouldn't stand a chance. It's good to have a high capacity HDD for storing large files though.

[daman799]

lol the higest a HDD can get is 5.9 for all the idiots who still dont know unless you have 6+ HDD on raid 0/10 the score wont go higer than 5.9

[daman799]

lol the higest a HDD can get is 5.9 for all the idiots who still dont know

[rebelnumba2]

looks like im gonna swap out the hdd for an ssd

[geniephupinson]

Is it possible to use a 160gb as my primary drive where windows and some of my mostly accessd software will be installed plus two 500gb western digital sata3 HDD setup in RAID 0?

[geniephupinson]

That's 160GB SSD by the way.

[jleavett]

@geniephupinson good setup - if you do video editing and encode big video files this is better than one big ssd

[jleavett]

@geniephupinson Sata3 makes no difference to sata 2 though yet. The drives wont even reach the limit of sata 2 never mind sata 3. That goes for SSD as well.

[MetalLunar]

that nice but I have 75 gb left from 700 gb and my HDD is not load with games but regular stuff like videos, programs some games 120gb ssd with big price tags just wont cut it

[greenland360]

LOLOOL at the intro, whats the name of the guitar song during most of it?

[dongman78]

@greenland360 Cliffs of Dover by Eric Johnson

[contytub]

hope this summer i get 2x64 GB ssd-s in raid 0 in my laptop if it supports or at least 1 of 128gb if it doesn't...i have a bigger slow hdd for other things so i think 128 gb will be enough . all the best and best performance test i have ever seen for ssd's

[dongman78]

@contytub Thanks man!

[niceguyemobarn]

UFAIL KID it stood 5.9 WEI but... It's cuz it's so small... my 1tb is 7.5 WEI fucker

[dongman78]

Congratulations! You won the "most stupid" comment award. You're an idiot!

[salchiflas]

@dongman78 u mean @niceguyemobarn ye he is so stupid xD

[Insurance423]

@niceguyemobarn Thats not even possible.. Mechanical hard drives arent able to get over 5.9 unless in Raid. You are stupid.

[ii69HD]

@niceguyemobarn hahaha your retarded :')

[ProjectRealityBf2]

Ok all you people need to understand, this is a comparison video, he is not trying to say people open up nearly any where near 50 applications on start up, he is trying to show you how much faster the dam SSD drives are than the raid 0 setup, now stop with the comments saying that people will never open 50 applications at once because that is not the point of the video!

[zaboomafia]

At the moment I use an SSD for my OS and a HHD for other things such as files and some programs.

[fiddlebender88]

64Gb? X2? This is exactly why I am not getting a SSD in a few years, if ever. 128Gb is just barely enough to put MOST of my programs and games on. That means I'm looking at a minimum of 300€ to spend on just ONE part of my computer. HDD RAID isn't as bad as you make it seem because hardly anyone launches 50 applications on startup anyway, not to mention dual boot which actually makes the processor work in favor of the SSD.

[dongman78]

@fiddlebender88 Have you tried using SSDs? If you haven't (and i assume this is the case), then try using it for a day and then go back to using HDDs. Once you experience the quick response of SSDs, you'll never look back. The performance increase offered by SSDs are very very significant.

[97268324]

@dongman78 I personally own an SSD and the performance increase is significant. Of course you will need another drive to put your games on mainly because its a waste of money putting something that will not benefit on the SSD.Bought a120gbSSD last yearand kept my500gbHDD and I've only used up around40gbwith programs that include Lightroom, M$ Office, basic media programs, all the drivers and Windows update to date...Anyone who uses more than 120gbon a SSD is clearly not using it correctly

[PhireXZ]

@fiddlebender88 that's why you get large disks to store your data and run your OS/games on SSD's. If you can't see the value, you're not geeky enough. Perhaps look into a product called an Apple Mac

[fiddlebender88]

@PhireXZ Read carefully. My post already explains everything you replied with. I would get an SSD for OS/games but it would have to be like 256Gb and that costs a bazillion €€€. And I don't wanna be as geeky as you pardon me.

[dongman78]

@fiddlebender88 you don't have to be geeky to like SSDs. If you want your computer to 'fly', get an SSD. I'm a gamer myself and 128GB is sufficient for me. Just look at all the programs I run on this video. Move your 'Documents' or 'My Documents' folder to a HDD and keep your OS and programs in the SSD. Right now, you should think of an SSD as a performance upgrade, not as an storage upgrade.

[fiddlebender88]

@dongman78 I'm not thinking of SSD as a storage upgrade. I've been saying that my games and programs do need a lot of disk space - on my main partition (RAID 0) I have games and programs, nothing else, and they take up nearly 200gb. I have ALL else on an external drive.

I do believe ppl with less games and programs will do fine with a midprice 128Gb SSD. I need both disk space and speed on my main partition so RAID 0 was the best bang for my buck and the score in HDTach is satisfying.

[deadlyhydra]

@fiddlebender88 You can use a hard drive a SSD together you know you could use the SSD as boot and windows drive and the other as a storage drive :D

[fiddlebender88]

@deadlyhydra You didn't understand what I said.

[SuperGrowPlants]

just ordered a 64gb sata III. WOOT IM GONNA CRY! HAHA LOL jk but I cannot wait!!!

[chandrasekarization]

Oh how about SSDs getting formatted themselves ? I have seen in one our setups ??

[fl0pes]

what i will do with 64gb on c:\ ? install some games and over!

[cmcdonough2]

Awesome video. Crazy difference in speed.. Don't get how people can get so worked up and berate each other over computer parts.

[sewerim]

i have corsair force 120 x 2 raid with p5nt-t delux

400mb read/write speed

tavsiye ederim ;)

[KenMacMillan]

Just wiki's SSD & found out that flash based drives have a limited amount of writes on them & defragmenting isn't necessary. So don't waste your time doing it, you'll just shorten the life of the drive. Does anyone have a dram based drive?

[vdawggie]

Hell yeah Eric johnson.. Cliffs of Dover.. that song total friggin rocks and so does this comparison!! I also own the crucial 64gig on sata6... no raid 0.. i will do that when the price drops in half but it SMOKES the hard drive.. I have it booting in 10 seconds.. trying for under 10 but it will be tough to do without raid 0

[MrTerrificII]

The comparison should be SSD NO "raid" vs HDD with Raid 0! If SSD drives were so "fast," they would BEAT raided regular hard drives!

[dongman78]

@MrTerrificII See Tom's Hardware article where they compared enterprise class 15k rpm HDDs to SSDs. 1 SSD can beat 8 15k rpm HDDs in raid 0. There's just no comparison.

[MrTerrificII]

@dongman78

Cool. I will check it out. Tom's Hardware reviews are very, very detailed. Thank you.

[zaibervaireus]

@MrTerrificII Lol, I bet it does beat mechanical hard drives in raid 0. 1 of my new SSDs is faster by itself than my 3 HD Raid0 I had before.

[geekforeva]

@MrTerrificII they do

[bhavvv]

@MrTerrificII

Erm, they do.

I have a single 64 Gb Crucial C300 for my OS drive, and Raid 0 Samsung F3s for games, and they raid 0 is hardly as fast.

Larger capacity SSDs are still too expensive for me to use a gaming drive, so I'm sticking with Raid 0 F3s until they are a lot cheaper.

[SimonFluxx]

my regrets from ordering a 120gb SSD to my new computer just faded away =D <3

[alle71]

we have a pirate here utorrent ahh

[TestimentBlue]

he farts at 3:00

[zx5073]

There's something slowing the HDD set up down because my computer loads up not that much slower than that SSD. I also think that SSD should have been quite a bit faster than that.

[dongman78]

@zx5073 You have to consider that I launched all 50 programs at startup. That's the time when Windows 7 starts all system services and other startup programs. Multitasking makes the HDD's thrash and struggle whereas the SSDs just breeze through it. Just try launching Photoshop immediately after booting and you will see what I mean. Or better yet, try launching 50 applications at startup.

[takealready]

Damn...lmao.. HDD doesn't een comapre.

[BJUAdams]

HDD sucks SSD rulez but i dont have money for SSD ;/

[dongman78]

@BJUAdams Don't worry, they're coming down in price lately. You can get a 60GB sandforce drive for $130.

[BJUAdams]

@dongman78 Thx for words of encouragement but im from poland so this is little crap for me.And i dont buy for now anything from ebay.

[stigyo92]

@dongman78 thats too much 130$ -.- i need someting under 100$

[iM9A]

ok im getting 4X 256GB SSD, could someone tell me how to do this raid 0 or whatever thing, and im using all SSD, no HDD for anything. thanx

[edmundbenz]

i finally made up my mind. i'll go for 2x 128GB SSD Corsair...Thanks.

[dongman78]

@edmundbenz You're welcome. Sandforce rocks! You won't regret your decision.

[shanecox704]

nice vid. Helped me make my mind up. I NEED SOME SSD NOW!!

[Sn0okkz]

can anyone tell me wut the bluudy hell raid 0 or raid 1 or wtf some people are talking about. makes my pc faster? i got 2 harddrives both 7200RPM sate. howh do i do some kinda fucking raid0?

[dongman78]

@Sn0okkz forget raid 0. Buy an SSD and use that for your OS and programs. Use the HDDs for storage.

[hunterto99]

@dongman78 Should I get Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB Read speed max 355mb/s write 70mb/s or OCZ Vertex 2 Extended 60GB Read speed 285mb/s Write 275mb/s Both same price here in finland (149e)

[dongman78]

@hunterto99 Both are great SSDs. If you don't have SATA 6GBPS port in your motherboard, get the OCZ Vertex 2. It's got a higher write speed and at the fringe of being bottlenecked by SATA 3gbps.

[Maximo121091]

Let it open all of it then shut it down see how long that takes as well lol

[dongman78]

@Maximo121091 Using the SSDs it would take approx 5 seconds to shut down even with 50 apps open.

[SiRSeRiaL]

can someone give me the title of the guitar song ...realy love it

[dongman78]

@SiRSeRiaL Cliffs of Dover by Eric Johnson

[SiRSeRiaL]

@dongman78 thank you

[OveRSwE]

nice video! terrible song though:( you could also add the times to load for the respective storages to finish

[OveRSwE]

terrible song :( nice video though! you could also add the times it took for the respetive hard drives to finish opening the apps

[KarateKid430]

how the fuck does your hdmi work? When I do mine, the 1920x1080 doesn't fit the screen when vga and dvi do. 1650x1050 work but that isn't right. And the colour is all distorted. Same on my mum's laptop. But with the same cables and monitor, our WD TV works fine. HELP PLEASE!!!! Because it is the only thing I can run through holes in walls but I can't trust the tech enough to invest in it. Lol nice video.

[dongman78]

@KarateKid430 Does your TV/Monitor have full HD native resolution? I've had the same problem when I connected a 720P bravia to my rig. 720p ran great but when I tried 1080p, it had over saturated colors and the image was cropped at the edges.

[KarateKid430]

@dongman78 well the monitor (Samsung P2270) and tv (complicated code can't remember) both have hdmi and 1920x1080 written on their boxes. And they do it from our WD TV Live through HDMI and tell us that is is full hd in the top left corner initially. But from laptop (Mobile Radeon HD 3450) or computer (N9600GT MD 512) it is funny. And when put to 1650x1050 it fits right even though it is the wrong aspect ratio ???? but it is lower res and the lop left corner says 1650x1050. Thanks so far.

[dongman78]

@KarateKid430 That's weird. Have you tried using an HDMI to DVI adaptor? In the NVIDIA control panel there's an option called "Adjust screen size and position". See if that helps.

[KarateKid430]

@dongman78 and also using dvi/vga they work perfectly.

[brokeandbloging]

@dongman78 i have same tv 160 hz i think may be a 120 hz it not crop on my tv m17x laptop may be youre drivers

[KarateKid430]

fml i was planning to raid 0 4 1tb hard disks. I know how fast SSD's are but they are more expensive and tiny. I would have to buy a SSD and a HDD, and everything on the HDD would be slow. $320 Australian = 4x 1TB Disk, $1,000 = 1x 256GB.

[dongman78]

@KarateKid430 It's generally a bad idea to have 4 large HDDs in Raid 0 configuration. If one of those HDDs fail, you'll lose all your data. Losing 4 TB or 8 TB of data is a frightening thought. Consider Raid 5 instead.

It's best to install your OS and programs in an SSD and have all your data on the slow HDD. Do a quick check on how much space your programs and OS take on your current setup. This will help you decide on what SSD capacity is right for you. Get an SSD, you won't regret it!

[z28Nemesis]

@dongman78 Even better to Raid0 a pair of SSD's for system use, schedule a weekly backup (easy to do) onto an external "Green" HDD.. All my apps + Win7 x64 Home are less than 60GB of data (WoW included as well).. that amt of space on bigger mechanical drives is like a flea on a schoolbus..Just my thoughts.

[TheLK42]

@dongman78 Do your hdd have 5400-rpm spinning speed?

[cmcghee358]

I can't believe this doesn't have more views. I literally show this video to anyone at work when I'm trying to explain the speed of SSD.

They all poop. Thanks for the video!

[TheRoscoe1953]

Yeah, that's very typical, opening 50 apps at once.

[dongman78]

@TheRoscoe1953 Even if it's not a typical scenario, you still see how snappy the SSDs are compared to HDDs.

[dansobolanu]

Very nice clip !

[TOTOsupra]

Eric Johnson YEAH.

[AsifIcarebear3]

Looking forward to the day where SSD becomes available to regular people like yours truly ^^

[carsongbaker]

cool.

[Ulf1103]

Jeeh!!!

[unluckyone2007]

nice!