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  • Is ABS on a motocycle worth it?

  • @bullseatpizza I think it is, especially for just an extra $500. It's like having full-coverage insurance-you may never use it, but you'll be glad to have it when you need it.

  • @youdiddytube It has a passenger seat and footpegs, but it's not a touring bike!

  • @poet79ful I think you answered your own question--if it can go to Alaska and back, then sure it can handle it. But maybe you meant to ask, can I handle riding this bike for long distances. It's not a touring bike, but I think afternoon rides (maybe 100-200 miles) are no problem.

    The Rebel 250, though--you will hate it at freeway speeds!

  • olny thing that sucks about the kawasaki 250r's is there fuckin carb's i hate carbs if i wanted to mess with a carb i would get a harley lol the cbr 250r's all are FUEL INJECTED witch i love alot about the cbr 250r's

  • @permachoob True enough, but carbs are actually pretty simple to figure out, especially the basic CVs on the Ninja. FI, on the other hand, requires a dyno and somebody who really knows what they are doing to get exact.

  • would you recommend getting either this bike or a 2011 ninja 250r?

  • @aaronalvarado27 That depends on what you like and what you want to do with the motorcycle. If you are riding more than half for pleasure/fun, I'd go with the Ninja. The CBR is a better around-town/commuting bike.

  • i just had you as my Basic Rider Course instructor. i was one of the guys who finished the class today. Didnt expect to stumble across a video of you on youtube lol

  • @mrnoobJI Hey! I just saw this. Have you bought a bike yet? Don't go too long without riding or I'll have to see you again!

  • @getshokin still looking around but im definitely going to pick one up as soon as i can. im actually looking into the cbr 250 as my first!

  • This is what an awesome review. I am thinking about buying a Honda CBR250R. Should I wait for a 2012 version?

  • @CHARLIETWW No! I think the 2012 will be exactly the same.

  • overall good review but i think its bias since he owns the ninja :/

  • @MrChazOMatic Actually, I sold my Ninja...

  • @getshokin and what did you replace it with? certainly not the cbr....im assuming.

  • @MrChazOMatic , actually, the Ninja was the wife's bike, but she's having a baby in November...I bought a Street Triple R to replace my old Ducati Supersport.

  • @getshokin nice....too bad they dont make the cbr in naked form

  • @MrChazOMatic I'd expect to see it in Asian markets soon--it'd be dumb (and unusual) for Honda to use this very good powerplant in just one model.

  • hmmmm why dont the bike dealers promote the fact that they can be used to race i wonder? it would attract more customers you would think; those people that would be thinking "yeh they look ok but too cheap to be a racing bike, i might wait til i can afford a 600"

  • @TheShaun5150 Actually, they do! Kawasaki USA pays contingency money to racers, and if the dealers aren't telling customers about it it's not because of any systemic problem.

  • ninja 250's are still better

  • the ninja is quicker but if you want to race then neither of these bikes will do the job or even last too long, the ninja rides smoother at high end speeds but the cbr changes gears smoother and has a better ratio for zooming around streets. the ninja is slightly bigger and heavier and doesnt have an lcd dash, only gauges. if you have never ridden before then the cbr is for you, if you have experience then it might be a bit "dull" and the ninja will be more of a challenge

  • @TheShaun5150 "neither of these bikes will do the job or even last too long" Ha! You're talking to a guy who raced Ninja 250s for 7 seasons with AFM...they last just fine and are as durable and dependable as any 600cc racebike, and are much, much cheaper to run. A set of tires will last half a season, they barely use any gas and parts are pretty cheap. And if you burn up a motor, a good one can be had at the junkyard for a few hundred bucks.

  • lol "wave goodbye paul" haha

  • paul said fuck you im going on break

  • but uggly pipe....one woul think the design team would have put more thought into the astetics..

  • NICE...

  • its also made in thailand just like the ninja 250 i saw one at the dealership and it is also made in thailand so right on par with the ninja and btw the north american ninja 250s are the only ones that are carbed everyone else theyre fi so the cbr250r isnt really better than the ninja

  • @leonoff89 Are you saying that the FI is the only thing that makes it better?

  • @getshokin just about ive hard complaints about the clutch ive watched a couple of comparison vids between the 250s hyosung gt250r the honda and the ninja another complaint was that the honda is small

  • Bunun kırmızı rengi neden TÜRKİYE ye getirilmiyor ki.

    Kırmızı rengi çok güzel bir renk ama Türkiye de malesef yok :o((

    TURKEY

  • hi! great vid! how about this bike for someone 6`1 ft. tall? I´m not sure about the size ´cause on the ninja 250r I feel like a giant

  • @yutokinemi Thanks! I think you may feel silly, but you won't be uncomfortable.

  • how come they don't have the blue one available here in us? :(

  • @aod28 My guess is Honda doesn't think it's worth the effort to stock the extra color and the extra hassles that would entail--keeping blue bodywork in stock, for instance. Honda will sell every one it brings in, so why bother with a bunch of colors?

  • I don't want a slickly produced riding video with a hip-hop soundtrack and not much information.

  • @JheyArTeves Lucky you!

  • Great walkaround video dude. Thanks for posting!!!

  • @XXJimmySuperXX Thanks for watching!

  • wich one is the quickest to do the 0-60mph ? Cbr250 or ninja 250?? And I heard top speed of this cbr was around 160-165 km/h (must be around 100 mp/h i guess??) so what about the kawa?? Is this similar on the ninja? Thanks and great video! I appreciated :)

  • @b4ll4z I think the Ninja will ahve the slight acceleration edge to 60 (but not to 30). Top speed of the Honda (on Cycle World's radar gun, not the YouTube Teenager Bullshit-O-meter) is around 87 mph, Ninja is 94.

  • @getshokin Great review, I'm in the market for one of the 250's, like you said, looks are subjective but the Ninja has much nicer -full- fairing. another consideration is the engine, for me, sound and feel are important and a single cylinder engine just doesn't have that smooth feel and sound to it, the Ninja's sound always makes me look back when one passes me.

    My dislikes are the Ninja's ancient looking instrument panel, a shame really. (but I will buy the Ninja ;) )

  • great video.... respect man...

  • @askmehow25 Thanks!

  • 2011 CBR250R is a great bike for new riders :)

  • Great video, thanks!

  • I want a good 250cc bike with gas and an oil temp gage. This bike fills my list and more. I want one.

  • This is the first intelligent motorcycle video ive seen in a while, thanks

  • @SpartanG6 Thanks for watching it!

  • Significantly smaller thank than the ninja... That extra gallon and change can make a pretty big difference if you're touring. Hmm...

  • @dtmbcorp Honestly, who buys a 250 entry level bike to tour? It's impractical.

  • Vocês sabem quando vira para Brasil?

  • oh god. thank you for not adding musik to this video. i would love to get this bike but nobody in my area (los angeles) has one in stock:-(

  • @4610suremark same i realy want one

  • much nicer than ninja. cool vid thx

  • thank you for making this video

  • what's the decal behind the gas tank for? i've seen it on many different sports bikes.

  • @shummyshum I'm not sure which decal, but it's probably a warning sticker of some kind. The US DOT requires many warnings, and Honda's lawyers require more.

  • @shummyshum The black decal on the back of the tank is a pad to protect the finish from belt buckles, zippers, etc.

  • @shummyshum Do you mean the tank protector?

  • @shummyshum

    That is called a tank protector. It is to protect the tank from scratches.

  • @shummyshum

    my guess is that you're talking about the carbon fibre tank protector. It protects the tank from scratches caused by jacket zippers, buttons, etc.

  • @shummyshum I think you're talking about the tank pad. It's a sticker put on the tank to protect the paint from jacket zippers.

  • @shummyshum It is protection and styling for your tank, when tucking on the bike your zipper may rub on the tank and produce some nasty scratches, it protects your tank from that and it is also stylish!

  • great vid man thanks for posting this. im getting a black one with abs. dealer says they wont get it until march.

    first thing im gonna do is remove that fugly muffler.

  • Part 2: ...I've been riding motorcycles all my life and it felt like it was going that fast. That said, I rode an almost new 2010 Ninja 250 & with it's 50% weight penalty ~375 lbs vs. ~250 lbs for the CBR150R, it just didn't feel any faster accelerating. A Youtube video of both drag racing confirmed my experience. Small frame ~120 lb. Thais regularly push their CBR150Rs to 160+ km/h indicated (100mph)with some minor mods. It seems the heavy CBR250R will suffer just like the Ninja 250 does.

  • Getshokin,

    Enjoyed the video, thanks! I live in Thailand & bought a new CBR150R in 2006 & it has been a fantastic little bike w/excellent handling, dependability, & fuel economy. It took a while to get used to riding it after riding a 1400cc Intruder V-twin for years, but compromises have 2B made to live in Thailand, but wasn't about to settle for 110cc step-thru scooter. I've had my CBR wide open at 140km/h (~87 mph) & the speedo may be off a tad, but... see part 2

  • If you want a slickly produced riding video with a hip-hop soundtrack and not much information, stop watching and go elsewhere

    I chose to go elsewhere :lol: j/k

    Nice Video Dude.. :thumbsup:

  • Nice video! What the top the speed of this bike?

    The Indian Version is surely going to be detuned comapred to the US/ Thailand version.

    Here in India people want better Fuel economy so most of the bikes and cars are heavily detuned.

    Take the Honda Civic sedan its detuned to 128-130HP here in India.

  • @GregoryHouseMD1

    Top speed will probably be about 85 (maybe 90 indicated), but I haven't had an opportunity to test it.

  • @getshokin the top speed will be way more than 90 mph.... my cbr 125 has gotten up to 100mph...

  • @cdnmotostar And my cat can do long division in her head. Too bad I can never prove it.

    The only way a CBR125 will go over 100 mph is if you drop it out of an airplane or if it's been heavily modified. Remember there is a difference between indicated top speed and actual top speed. The Ninja 250R was clocked on Cycle World's radar gun at 92 mph. The CBR250R makes less power and will therefore go slower.

  • @getshokin Dude I have a cbr 125r ... ive driven it at 100mph, heck ill take a video for you next year...  Look on youtube there are videos of cbr125s going 95 mph. and ninja 250s can go at least 120 mph ive seen it with my own eyes....

  • @cdnmotostar I will pay you $50 if you show me radar-gun evidence of a CBR125 going 100 or a Ninja 250 going 120. We're talking stock or lightly modified bikes with no streamlining, right?

  • @getshokin okay thats just great where am i going to get a radar gun... Seriously man theres tons of proof on youtube. and as for the bike going 100 its called redline.. some people just dont know how to ride... i out rode a ninja 250 in a straight line, alot depends on rider skill

  • @cdnmotostar I see videos of your bike doing 145 kph, and that's 89.9 mph--INDICATED. I think you have a hard time understanding the concept of built-in speedometer error (which can add 10 percent or more to your speedometer reading), but even then, there is no way a 12-14 hp bike can go over 100mph without streamlining. It's not a matter of rider skill, it's a matter of physics, and until you provide proof involving a certified radar gun, nobody will believe you, so sorry.

  • @getshokin okay so you've seen riders going 90 mph indicated so lets say a rider is 50 less pounds then the person doing that 90mph would you think that would make a big difference for a measly 10 mph? nobody will believe me.. everyone i ride with does because they have seen it..

  • @cdnmotostar Then it should be no problem pacing your bike with a car equipped with GPS and an easy $50! . Good luck with that!

  • @cdnmotostar Actually being faster in a straight line is not depending on rider skill. It is depending on bhp, rolling resistance and aerodynamics.

  • @theoriginaldimi No way, dude! Not in YOU TUBE TEENAGE BOY BRAGGING LAND!

  • @cdnmotostar Cycle World put the radar gun to the CBR250R: 87 mph at 2500 feet of elevation. My guess was off by 2 mph. Yours was off by way more.

    YouTube videos are not "proof."

  • @GregoryHouseMD1 We won't have a bike to test until April, just like you. 26hp sounds about right for the bike I rode. It's a world model, so there probably will be few differences between the India-market version and the USA one.

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  • @BeeCBender

    Did I say the USA model would make 20 hp? Are you responding to another video?

    I said it probably has 23-24 hp at the wheel. The 26hp number (which I think the Indian reviewer pulled out of his ass) is AT THE CRANK. Do you understand the difference? Driveline friction will eat up 10-15% of the crankshaft output.

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  • @BeeCBender Not only did I not say at the wheel, I also never said the number 20. I clearly said 23 or 24, which, in hindsight, may be a bit optimistic.

    Honda has no released official power figures to anybody, which is why I think the Indian guy either guessed or just repeated something he overheard unofficially.

  • @getshokin "it probably makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to 23 or 24 horsepower at the back wheel" are your exact words.

    Aside from that, however, I apologize for confusing the information.

  • @getshokin

    Thank you for the reply! If you can please do push this bike to the max and let us know about the speed.

    Here in India you can book the bike right away but deliveries are going to start only by April 2011.

    The Honda guys here claim 26HP. Still waiting for the numbers.

  • good review

  • I'd say the addition of EFI is pretty big

  • wat is maximum rpm and say the speed in 6 gear at any particular rpm.0-100 takes how muchseconds. relay plz

  • @TheRASANTH

    0-100mph is an eternity, because this bike will never go that fast. Top speed is maybe 80-85. I have no idea how long it takes--I didn't do any real testing. You'll have to wait until the big magazines have one for long enough to really test it.

    Redline is 10,500 rpm, but peak power is at 8500 rpm. I'd say RPMs will be about 7-8000 at 65-70 mph.

  • How is it subjective?? ABS and EFI are BIG objective differences!

  • @cbr125rcanada

    When I said it's subjective, I was referring to things like styling and how the motor feels. Obviously, FI and ABS are factual things with real advantages, which I will discuss in my Motorcycle Daily story.

  • Hello, which is the maximum speed of her cbr250r?, thank you very much

  • @888cambios

    We weren't allowed to do top-speed testing. However, I got it up to an indicated 80 at one point and it felt like it would pull a little bit more. I'm thinking top speed of around 85 mph.

  • Wow I imagined q it was going to be about 100 or 105 miles, Thank you very much for the information, embrace from Argentina

  • So lets see: Advantages of CBR250R: - ABS available - Digital Dash (with clock, fuel/temp gauge) - More modern design & better finish - Performance at low end (but not overall)

    Advantages of Ninja 250r: - Performance at top end and overall - Parallel Twin (vs single cylinder on the honda) - Handling - Suspension

    It seems Honda generally focus on finish and tech while Kawasaki focus on the ride itself. For me the Ninja wins overall but I do wish there was an ABS option.

  • Great impartial review. I hope this bike will motivate Kawasaki to modernize the Ninja 250 a bit more.

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