I love the interview. It is a charming snapshot of history. The impressions and memories are priceless. The signature authentic New York accents take me back to my time in the city. I call it "the old country". I now live in Masachusetts and talk with a different accent. I remember taking a lesson from Cuban Pete. He spent much of the time talking about the "on 2" debate.
I prefer to think of Salsa, and dancing in general, as a dynamic creative expression of inner feeelings and values.
It is also interesting that the way ur mom counts on2 is proof of the confusion of on1 or on2, i.e. salsa vs. mambo. She's doing the on1 paso but just resting on the 1st beat of the measure. Many teach on2 by resting on the 4th, just like on1. The difference is thy accent & change directions on the 2nd beat. So starting on the 1st beat thy take 2 steps forward, then 1 back & rest on 4. Then 2 steps back, 1 forward & rest on 4. Then back to the beginning.
@NUHERITAGE I think you're confusing Mambo with what we call salsa on2 today. The mom is not stepping on 1, but holding on 1 as you pointed out. She can't be doing both at the same time.
@acpjrr I'm not confused. Some use the term on2 and mambo interchangeably. And if u r not aware of that, u r not very familiar w/ the American salsa scene.
@NUHERITAGE You are confused precisely by the fact that some people use the phrase "on2" and the phrase "mambo" interchangeably. They use these phrases to refer to today's NY style salsa dancing whose basic is danced on 123-567.
Modern salsa is not what the mom is dancing. She is dancing the Mambo (with a capital M) of the Palladium Era. Her steps and explanation simply demonstrate that the Mambo basic starts with a break step as the first step and starts on the 2nd beat of the measure.
@NUHERITAGE I just want to point out to everyone here, that her mother is talking about mambo as it was originally danced when it came from Cuba. What you call the "on1 paso resting on the 1" is actually referred to as dancing "contratiempo". Contratiempo is dancing on the upbeat rather than the downbeat, thus in contratiempo you pause on the 1 and on the 5, steps are taken on 234-678. Danzón, changüí, son, mambo, cha-cha-chá were all danced contratiempo and still are in Cuba.
Loved hearing your mom talk about her experiences...how precious to have this connection to that time... and especially loved seeing the pictures at the end of the video. Thanks!
@tubeyoumaniac This is my channel. Go to the main pain. I just didn't film our faces because it was a spontaneous taping in response to a FB post and my mother was in curlers. That's why I didn't film her upper body.
This interview is not very objective. If ur mom is an 'expert' on mambo, she shld do most of the talking. Also, ur questions r very leading. Also, it's a fallacy to say that mambo came from Cuba. Elements of mambo came from Cuba, Europe, America, etc. But all those elements came together n NYC. And it was not 'created' at the Palladium. It may have blossomed there, but I say it began w/ Lindy Hopping.
Lastly, 1 doesn't need to know music theory to get mambo. It is, after all, a street dance.
@NUHERITAGE We didn't say the Mambo was created in Palladium it was a hot bed for the dance. This was a spontaneous discussion. We originally had the conversation prior to the taping and that is why I was leading with the questions and reiterating what was said prior to the video. We were specifically talking about the connection of why the On2 style has become interchangeable with Mambo as opposed to the on1 style of dancing. This video was in response to a posting on FB.
@NUHERITAGE Arsenio who was Cuban and created the actual Mambo; although he took the ending portion of Danzon and danzon does have Europeon roots to the Contradance the Mambo itself was created by a Cuban. We only brought up musicality because we were talking about the On2 styles connection to the Mambo. People back in the day didn't know they were eccentuating the upbeat because it was inspired by the rhythms of the dance.
I love the interview. It is a charming snapshot of history. The impressions and memories are priceless. The signature authentic New York accents take me back to my time in the city. I call it "the old country". I now live in Masachusetts and talk with a different accent. I remember taking a lesson from Cuban Pete. He spent much of the time talking about the "on 2" debate.
I prefer to think of Salsa, and dancing in general, as a dynamic creative expression of inner feeelings and values.
salsalot 6 months ago
It is also interesting that the way ur mom counts on2 is proof of the confusion of on1 or on2, i.e. salsa vs. mambo. She's doing the on1 paso but just resting on the 1st beat of the measure. Many teach on2 by resting on the 4th, just like on1. The difference is thy accent & change directions on the 2nd beat. So starting on the 1st beat thy take 2 steps forward, then 1 back & rest on 4. Then 2 steps back, 1 forward & rest on 4. Then back to the beginning.
Is tht how u do it or like ur mom?
NUHERITAGE 6 months ago
@NUHERITAGE I teach ET Style/NY Style
LEDANCETHERAPY 6 months ago
@NUHERITAGE I think you're confusing Mambo with what we call salsa on2 today. The mom is not stepping on 1, but holding on 1 as you pointed out. She can't be doing both at the same time.
acpjrr 6 months ago
@acpjrr I'm not confused. Some use the term on2 and mambo interchangeably. And if u r not aware of that, u r not very familiar w/ the American salsa scene.
NUHERITAGE 6 months ago
@NUHERITAGE You are confused precisely by the fact that some people use the phrase "on2" and the phrase "mambo" interchangeably. They use these phrases to refer to today's NY style salsa dancing whose basic is danced on 123-567.
Modern salsa is not what the mom is dancing. She is dancing the Mambo (with a capital M) of the Palladium Era. Her steps and explanation simply demonstrate that the Mambo basic starts with a break step as the first step and starts on the 2nd beat of the measure.
acpjrr 6 months ago
@NUHERITAGE I just want to point out to everyone here, that her mother is talking about mambo as it was originally danced when it came from Cuba. What you call the "on1 paso resting on the 1" is actually referred to as dancing "contratiempo". Contratiempo is dancing on the upbeat rather than the downbeat, thus in contratiempo you pause on the 1 and on the 5, steps are taken on 234-678. Danzón, changüí, son, mambo, cha-cha-chá were all danced contratiempo and still are in Cuba.
timberamayor 6 months ago
Loved hearing your mom talk about her experiences...how precious to have this connection to that time... and especially loved seeing the pictures at the end of the video. Thanks!
djrobsuave 6 months ago
and who are you and where do you teach? if you believe in what you say , you should say who you are , other wise you are just any body else.
tubeyoumaniac 6 months ago
@tubeyoumaniac This is my channel. Go to the main pain. I just didn't film our faces because it was a spontaneous taping in response to a FB post and my mother was in curlers. That's why I didn't film her upper body.
LEDANCETHERAPY 6 months ago
This interview is not very objective. If ur mom is an 'expert' on mambo, she shld do most of the talking. Also, ur questions r very leading. Also, it's a fallacy to say that mambo came from Cuba. Elements of mambo came from Cuba, Europe, America, etc. But all those elements came together n NYC. And it was not 'created' at the Palladium. It may have blossomed there, but I say it began w/ Lindy Hopping.
Lastly, 1 doesn't need to know music theory to get mambo. It is, after all, a street dance.
NUHERITAGE 6 months ago
@NUHERITAGE We didn't say the Mambo was created in Palladium it was a hot bed for the dance. This was a spontaneous discussion. We originally had the conversation prior to the taping and that is why I was leading with the questions and reiterating what was said prior to the video. We were specifically talking about the connection of why the On2 style has become interchangeable with Mambo as opposed to the on1 style of dancing. This video was in response to a posting on FB.
LEDANCETHERAPY 6 months ago
@NUHERITAGE Arsenio who was Cuban and created the actual Mambo; although he took the ending portion of Danzon and danzon does have Europeon roots to the Contradance the Mambo itself was created by a Cuban. We only brought up musicality because we were talking about the On2 styles connection to the Mambo. People back in the day didn't know they were eccentuating the upbeat because it was inspired by the rhythms of the dance.
LEDANCETHERAPY 6 months ago