The sad thing about the facestab glitch is it makes sense. I mean the back is only so much more vulnerable. A knife right to the face should kill just as quickly.
@Fetchdafish Yeah, but would you want a spy running up to you and killing you without even getting your gun out? Spys would be overpowered if facestabs worked 100%.
@JamesNintendoNord It's great even if its free. There are basically no hacks (unlike MW2, etc.), and I paid 2 years ago and I get trading, crafting, all that stuff.
in some guys video he explained that the only part of you thats safe from a back stab or side stab is your body facing the spy but it its facing away theres a pretty good chance of a face stab but people are getting wise to it now
i did that before, a scout ran up a slope, we collided, stood faced moving forward for 5 seconds going nowhere, both our brains just froze :P and then i just stabbed him right in the face and he died ¬¬
Unless you actually managed to snip the spinal chord with a stab to the back, dont you think that stabs IN YOUR FACE would hurt more than stabs in the back?
Facestab is just a form of 'lag compensation' which means he only looks like the engineer is facing the spy on one of the two PC's, the server and the other PC havn't caught up yet but the info is still sent. It's pretty much unfixable
not true, facestabs can happen front on, like in corridors where players on oposing team cant pass eachother. thats what a true facestab is. lag compesation can make a facestabs appear to have happened but it also causes people to appear to have been shot from behind a wall
I get facestabbed like once or twice a day on average, it really pisses my off when i get "backstabbed" by a spy who is currently being hit by my flamer -- while you can still hear the scorching sound.
However from a spy point of view, it's kind'a funny to see XD
A PING does not represent your connection to the server. It represents the time it takes to send a small, byte sized packet to the server and receive it. Lag can have any number of roots, either client-side or server-side. It's unfortunate none of you idiots has a clue about it. And yes, a ping can have a relation to the actual speed between the server and you, but more often than not, it's just a really rough estimate.
A ping does represent the speed it takes to send a packet from your computer to the server you are connected to.
Say, you are downloading something. Your ping will go up, because the file you are downloading is eating your bandwith.
In this video, the players computer could have made an error (the server could have made an error too) and failed to estimate that he was turned around, and thats why he got an instakill.
Attack got through hitbox and hitted inner side of back-side hitbox = facestab. Minor lag (Completly, even 1 ping can do) + collision = little chance of facestab.
Roll stab is other thing (IE hitting hitbox when it turned around already, thou hit was registered on it)
Good idea. If Valve had backwards support for demos, that would help.
I got the WORST facestab (worse than this one) a few days ago. I was walking towards a soldier when he turned around. Stabbed him right in his chest, reigstered as a backstab.
No height difference, straight in the stomach. Shame I wasn't recording a demo.
it hit the engies back of the head, engineers are made to face down and therefore you often hit the more back side of their head and it counts as a backstab
This stuff happens to me all the time. I get more facestabs than backstabs! When I hit someone to the back, I have an animation, but nothing happens and then, two minutes later I screw up and hit someone to the face (expecting that Ill die in a few seconds) and PUF! Backstab. It really ruins the experience of plaiyng as a spy, so come on Valve. Fix backstabs. Please. They are last major flaw in Team Fortress 2.
It wasn't truly patched - all they did was remove the ability to backstab if you have the animation loaded but you don't hit the back. As you can see in the video, my knife plays the 'fast' stab animation.
The update wouldn't have made any difference to this scenario.
THEN ITS NOT A FACESTAB a facestab is a backstab somehow working on the face it may be just a crit and always say its a backstab but i dont know and when u facestab without saying its a backstab then its just a stab
Pause at 0:08, engineer is crouching and facing the spy, the forward stab the spy makes technically doesn't hit *anything* on the player model, but obviously hit something on the hitbox. Awful.
báckstabs are bugged when stabbing in the back aswell, theres vids out where a spy stabs ppl for 3-5 times in a row in the back, no kill, happens to me every now n then, the slashing sound effect is there, and the victim goes "ouch" but no backstab insta killi once stabbed a spy SIX times in his back then he turned around and i killed him with a stab to the chest , he died of regular melee dmg,not backstab
this is sometimes due to hitboxes and lag reduction, i.e your stabbing his character model(blood usually comes out) but he is not actually being damaged. the hitbox is usually infront of the person moving, thus if he was going sideways or anything, he would have been further to the left/right then his actual character model. and yes i know... its hell annoying being unable to stab someone, or being killed by someone who wasnt even aiming at you due to hitboxes, but what can u do...
TOPSTAB not facestab.... u can also stab from the sides if you aim at thier spine and whenever someone gets stabbed by side or top usually yell "Noob that was a facestab!" or something idiotic like that
This video was made in February, a few weeks before the 'fixed facestabs' patch was released.
Put it this way:
At the release of TF2, you could click on someones back and it would play the animation, and as long as you were in range of the enemy you are guaranteed a backstab, regardless of whether their back was facing you.
At the February patch, you could click on someone's back, animation would play, but the knife has to land on their back. If they turned around, you can't hit them.
Yeah, it's a top stab, he shouldn't have been crouching down like that. It's how you take out engies that are just campin' behind their little sentry/dispenser forts. The upper part of the hit box also counts for critical hits on the back burner for Pyro.
theres ALOT of bugs with the knife spy is like so underpowered 1 thing i do not get face stabs arent 1 hits or at leats do 100 but i guess we gotta live in the shadows till valve fixes all the spys problmes and gives us spys an updtae i mean seriously spys deserver it more engie our too strong there shot gun killed me in 1 hit and when i go scot i cant 1 hit crit a spy
yeah werd, spies are bloody hard to play against good teams and let's face it, if the other team is just communicating properly, that's enough to get the jump on you.
plus, with these facestabs, i'm certain a lot of what are claimed are instead due to lag compo, just like how pyro sometimes have enormous range and snipers sometimes seem to shoot through walls.
FACEPWN
triciaf61 1 year ago
If you'll look closely you're hitting his back, from the front, but the back.
It wouldnt've happened if he wasn't sitting
KelThuzadMadness 1 year ago
The engineer's deathnote is what makes this golden
SoloRazaSoldier13 1 year ago
I wish it was like this all the time...
Efficacy28 1 year ago
Best facestab evar?
xburritoxboy 1 year ago
facestab.. never fails
MORTALKOMBATRULZx123 1 year ago
Achievment Unlocked: Greymatter (25/25)
PeopleR2sensitive 1 year ago
LoL
keltuzak 1 year ago
nice video GRaHIC SHIT
Elbartolo99 1 year ago
happens to me all the time...
i'm looking right in the spy's f'ing face and he kills me with a backstab?!
wtf?
xDPOTTIxD 1 year ago
The sad thing about the facestab glitch is it makes sense. I mean the back is only so much more vulnerable. A knife right to the face should kill just as quickly.
Fetchdafish 1 year ago
@Fetchdafish Yeah, but would you want a spy running up to you and killing you without even getting your gun out? Spys would be overpowered if facestabs worked 100%.
Emelljee 1 year ago
spah sappin mah EYE!
tdudexd 1 year ago 6
i was once firing my ambassador at a medic and i was low hp and i accidentally jumped turned out i head shotted him at 5 metres apart =D
deadmeu 1 year ago
that was full on in the face!
DaNoobKilr 1 year ago
thats a motherfucking face stab alright
thehumor 2 years ago
Skills.
DanJoeProductions97 2 years ago
head shot
flar28 2 years ago 2
BOOM HEADSTAB!
roxasfruit 1 year ago 6
LOL ?!?!
victor0residentevil4 2 years ago
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How did the engineer get up there..?
Bonkbonk100 2 years ago
Get up where?
fuolox 2 years ago
The definitive facestab.
ObeIiskos 2 years ago
This looks like some scene from a horror movie from the way he just fell there.
JAXJAK218 2 years ago 4
waawaawoowoo
TetrisLock 2 years ago
spah sappin mah WAAAH
tdudexd 2 years ago 48
nu not his WAAAH :'(
ElChrisman99 2 years ago
i fking hate that
clockwise3559 2 years ago
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what a loser ass class.
wed3k 2 years ago
Ya that can happen alot sometimes.... which is a good thing for me:)
Voodoochild167 2 years ago
ummmmmmm, im thinking of bying TF 2, is it possible to play single player? (bots etc.) pm me back please
CrveniGavran 2 years ago
No, it's multiplayer only. There is some work on third party bots, but the game is meant for multiplayer only.
fuolox 2 years ago
@fuolox 7 months after... now you can play singleplayer :P
MysticRixel 1 year ago
@MysticRixel Tru dat. But the bots only work in arena.
Funny how Valve are implementing the thing that killed their first game.
fuolox 1 year ago
@fuolox ummm wait you can play dustbowl and sawmill things for SP
adampaz95 1 year ago
@fuolox
Bots work in every CP map but ColdFront now.
PlasticineGuy 1 year ago
no just multiplayer dude but it is a fantastic game for multiplayer
Marty6271 2 years ago
Well, bots were recently implemented, but only for certain maps. For most maps, they'll just stand around and do nothing.
However, I recommend playing multiplayer anyway. Currently, bots don't put up much of a challenge. It's more fun to go up against actual people.
ObeIiskos 2 years ago
@CrveniGavran There is now singleplayer bots but only on King of the hill maps and only on PC
FlashFireSix 1 year ago
@CrveniGavran they JUST released offline mode-AKA singleplayer with bots
benry200 1 year ago
@CrveniGavran now after the new update you can do single player mode
xburritoxboy 1 year ago
@CrveniGavran NOW IT IS!
alvariux1123 1 year ago
@CrveniGavran
yea you can do that its calld offline practice but you can only play cap the point maps
flar28 1 year ago
@CrveniGavran
update, there IS singleplayer now
Zega000 1 year ago
@Zega000 Well that's all well and good telling him that a year after he asked it.
oopsIdidasuper 1 year ago
@oopsIdidasuper
Better to know late then never. Also, kiss the fattest part of my ass ;)
Zega000 1 year ago
@CrveniGavran 1 year later, it's free. Go figure.
NtropyPyroductions 8 months ago
@CrveniGavran the game is free dumbshit!
JamesNintendoNord 6 months ago
@JamesNintendoNord It's great even if its free. There are basically no hacks (unlike MW2, etc.), and I paid 2 years ago and I get trading, crafting, all that stuff.
mariocake1 6 months ago
@JamesNintendoNord fun fact; Humans can't see into the future.
DWNmetalman777 3 months ago
in some guys video he explained that the only part of you thats safe from a back stab or side stab is your body facing the spy but it its facing away theres a pretty good chance of a face stab but people are getting wise to it now
bleach0rules 2 years ago
"In your face~!!"
tonylin2 2 years ago
i did that before, a scout ran up a slope, we collided, stood faced moving forward for 5 seconds going nowhere, both our brains just froze :P and then i just stabbed him right in the face and he died ¬¬
folken53 2 years ago 7
not.. really that special you know.
its a pretty common glitch that happens alot
Osiris1337x 2 years ago
You seem forget that facestabs ARE A GLITCH
KarthXLR 2 years ago 4
Unless you actually managed to snip the spinal chord with a stab to the back, dont you think that stabs IN YOUR FACE would hurt more than stabs in the back?
Railware 2 years ago 8
yeah, but its alot more fun stabbing people when they don't know your there. Its a game mechanic, not an anatomy class.
nado117 2 years ago
howw!!!!!
pmbtheheavy 2 years ago
WHAT!??!?!?! how lol?
shorty00104 2 years ago
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engies deserve getting facestabbed, especially ones that are so bad and cant aim at all so they dont even switch to their shotguns
VAKanako 2 years ago
spy sappin my face!!
Acodin144 2 years ago 6
Face stab FTW.
poliszhalex 2 years ago 4
Its patched now. DX!!!
But people always find new ways to... Fuck with other people XD!
DarkRisingLord 2 years ago
that has to be one of the most brutal gory stabs ive seen in Tf2. i mean the way he just layed there looked like a massacre
Bandslayer103 2 years ago 43
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its actually a stab to the side witch kills em but it looks like its in the face
Mrfishcakeslol 2 years ago
Oh noez! Captain obious has invaded this video too!
potatoWTFnope 2 years ago
IN you'r Fucking FACE engi !!! nice good job... bit lucky
F0k3rTheSucker 2 years ago 3
what i have to say to the engie... IN YOUR FACE!!!! (litterally :D)
tdudexd 2 years ago 3
Spy sappin' mahAAAAAAUUHH!
maksie88 2 years ago 6
fucking face stabs!
anontix 2 years ago 2
owned !
UrbanMovieProducer 2 years ago
nice fs haha
*i wish i had 44ping ._.'' (13ping ftl)*
metrkhope 2 years ago
does the facestab only for PC version?
zezu09 2 years ago
No, lol. It can happen on the Xbox 360 as well.
fuolox 2 years ago
IN DA FACE LMAO
stevengood12 2 years ago
@fuolox now you can't face stab as long i know
Henrietta20 6 months ago
gotta be a bug... nice anyway! xD
Spunkyowns 2 years ago
long story shot ping is not lag and i think the face stab is a glitch (my opinion)
shirosaki97 2 years ago
Of course not, it was carefully programmed to be an extremely advanced technique in the hands of a skilled player...
dragonraizen 2 years ago
figured that out now XD since i like side stabbed but it looked like a face stab
shirosaki97 2 years ago
it isnt always because of lag, I stabbed someone in their face inside the ctf_turbine air vent and I got a backstab
Skwart 2 years ago
Facestab is just a form of 'lag compensation' which means he only looks like the engineer is facing the spy on one of the two PC's, the server and the other PC havn't caught up yet but the info is still sent. It's pretty much unfixable
Nicky02468 2 years ago 10
not true, facestabs can happen front on, like in corridors where players on oposing team cant pass eachother. thats what a true facestab is. lag compesation can make a facestabs appear to have happened but it also causes people to appear to have been shot from behind a wall
braytex 2 years ago
How doe you do it??
VVK28 2 years ago
facestabs...more effective in real life =)
illuminati503 2 years ago 10
lol thats hilarious i bet he rage quited
ukystout 2 years ago
Facestab but u get points like backstab. Bug
vampiregt600 2 years ago
I get facestabbed like once or twice a day on average, it really pisses my off when i get "backstabbed" by a spy who is currently being hit by my flamer -- while you can still hear the scorching sound.
However from a spy point of view, it's kind'a funny to see XD
Knowing that guy must be really pissed
Ahrussoh 2 years ago
poke
kiba213 2 years ago 2
Facestab in the FACE!
Viper5677 2 years ago
Spy sappin mah ARGHHH!!
SirSausage 2 years ago 7
i lolz in my pantz XDDD LOLOLOLOL ROFL
sillentguy322 2 years ago
That was a brilliant example of a facestab! 5/5
MagnuM2980 2 years ago
now i know why i got owned
philv1111 2 years ago
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The fuck does ping have to do with anything?
demonikreaper 2 years ago
To prove it wasn't lag that caused it.
jancom777 2 years ago
A PING does not represent your connection to the server. It represents the time it takes to send a small, byte sized packet to the server and receive it. Lag can have any number of roots, either client-side or server-side. It's unfortunate none of you idiots has a clue about it. And yes, a ping can have a relation to the actual speed between the server and you, but more often than not, it's just a really rough estimate.
demonikreaper 2 years ago
A ping does represent the speed it takes to send a packet from your computer to the server you are connected to.
Say, you are downloading something. Your ping will go up, because the file you are downloading is eating your bandwith.
In this video, the players computer could have made an error (the server could have made an error too) and failed to estimate that he was turned around, and thats why he got an instakill.
Muffinz525 2 years ago
you owned him XD that had to hurt......bad.
andon217 2 years ago
He must have been looking at your feet, making your knife be not on his screen.
Mysterbyg 2 years ago
you got it because he was ducking and it counts as a headstab, still, pretty neat when you get one.
Irooooon 2 years ago
nice
XZeR02X 2 years ago
The spy should get a kill taunt, the face stab taunt. Epic and highlighting their own flaw
Timmyo000 2 years ago 4
Heh yeah nice idea for knife taunt ;)
NukeUrself 2 years ago
maybe in the spy update
Emeexuqu 2 years ago
In reality hitting somebody in the face should damage the person, a lot. Still, it is annoying when random lag kills come along.
zooomm 2 years ago 2
Heh. Imagine if Valve implemented a 'headshot' system for the butterfly knife.
fuolox 2 years ago
The possibilities!
zooomm 2 years ago 5
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lol, id be ranked no1
cgrw1 2 years ago
Well I'd imagine getting stabbed in the head would kill you just as fast as getting stabbed in the back.
AnonEggman 2 years ago 5
fail engineer
NadeoKing 3 years ago
he was crouching, hitting them on top of the head is a backstab
omfgdano123 3 years ago
Attack got through hitbox and hitted inner side of back-side hitbox = facestab. Minor lag (Completly, even 1 ping can do) + collision = little chance of facestab.
Roll stab is other thing (IE hitting hitbox when it turned around already, thou hit was registered on it)
Nikotyniak 3 years ago
SPY SAPPIN MAH-AAAAUUUUUGH
souperzombie 3 years ago 2
roflmao
TLONightmare 3 years ago
I did this exact same thing once, only the Engy was standing straight up when I did it.
woopyfrood 3 years ago
Notice how the engineers head is slightly bent over look closely it looks as though he hit the engineer just at the tip of his back
Survivor077 3 years ago
There is muiltiple things that could happen as a face stab.
1. The engineer could of been wounded.
2.The direction he hit the engineer is probably the target area for a backstab kill
3. ***Notice real close where he stabs the engineer.**
Survivor077 3 years ago
If he was just wounded the icon wouldn't have been that of a backstab.
Reddaxe 3 years ago 4
*clap clap clap* Very Nice!
MotorizedCow 3 years ago
you should do it in slow mo next time. Just for kicks! :D
1xadavid 3 years ago
Good idea. If Valve had backwards support for demos, that would help.
I got the WORST facestab (worse than this one) a few days ago. I was walking towards a soldier when he turned around. Stabbed him right in his chest, reigstered as a backstab.
No height difference, straight in the stomach. Shame I wasn't recording a demo.
fuolox 3 years ago
its common if you swing while they are facing the other way, if you hit anywere after, its a backstab
Pikachux1000 3 years ago
Not after the Feb 2008 patch, you have to be hitting the back of the hitbox for it to register.
fuolox 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
MoomooT3hCow 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
austinthony 3 years ago
it hit the engies back of the head, engineers are made to face down and therefore you often hit the more back side of their head and it counts as a backstab
dantsuale 3 years ago
honestly the game is so annoying when it wont register a backstab or when it facestabs
keltroy 3 years ago
This stuff happens to me all the time. I get more facestabs than backstabs! When I hit someone to the back, I have an animation, but nothing happens and then, two minutes later I screw up and hit someone to the face (expecting that Ill die in a few seconds) and PUF! Backstab. It really ruins the experience of plaiyng as a spy, so come on Valve. Fix backstabs. Please. They are last major flaw in Team Fortress 2.
stalk8r 3 years ago
Lag.
TK3C 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
Chocceh 3 years ago
They patched this a while ago methinks
STRADOUKEN 3 years ago
It wasn't truly patched - all they did was remove the ability to backstab if you have the animation loaded but you don't hit the back. As you can see in the video, my knife plays the 'fast' stab animation.
The update wouldn't have made any difference to this scenario.
fuolox 3 years ago
once i face stap someone they didnt die
fierysnake1 3 years ago
THEN ITS NOT A FACESTAB a facestab is a backstab somehow working on the face it may be just a crit and always say its a backstab but i dont know and when u facestab without saying its a backstab then its just a stab
keltroy 3 years ago
omfg i hate it when spies do that to me its like the game thinks 90%of my body is my back and the other 10% is the front
HeartBreakKid551 3 years ago
For some reason I only facestab pyros
bobby66489 3 years ago
Pause at 0:08, engineer is crouching and facing the spy, the forward stab the spy makes technically doesn't hit *anything* on the player model, but obviously hit something on the hitbox. Awful.
thesolo 3 years ago
Facestabs occur when the hitbox of the knife hits the back of someone's head THROUGH the player model. odd stuff eh?
Snowmiser14508 3 years ago
It's a shoulder-stab, actually.
Makinoija 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
mrpatty29 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
Modgraham 3 years ago 2
POW right in the kisser
thekakihara 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
JoshuaGeneNickerson 3 years ago
POW right in the kisser
Modgraham 3 years ago 2
Pow right in the kisser
TheZaw 3 years ago
spy sapping my EYE!!
dean979 3 years ago 2
Right in the eye.
HayaneHayaokimasu 3 years ago
MY EYES YOU CUT OUT MY EYES
Jallentime 3 years ago
I'm sorry!
fuolox 3 years ago
Spy sappin my - AUGHHH!
JackIsASpy 3 years ago 18
lol
KemiiSu 3 years ago
topstab... you aimed his helm(a lil over it) so its like a bs
runescapeftwghtoo 3 years ago 2
báckstabs are bugged when stabbing in the back aswell, theres vids out where a spy stabs ppl for 3-5 times in a row in the back, no kill, happens to me every now n then, the slashing sound effect is there, and the victim goes "ouch" but no backstab insta killi once stabbed a spy SIX times in his back then he turned around and i killed him with a stab to the chest , he died of regular melee dmg,not backstab
mandrilla 3 years ago 11
this is sometimes due to hitboxes and lag reduction, i.e your stabbing his character model(blood usually comes out) but he is not actually being damaged. the hitbox is usually infront of the person moving, thus if he was going sideways or anything, he would have been further to the left/right then his actual character model. and yes i know... its hell annoying being unable to stab someone, or being killed by someone who wasnt even aiming at you due to hitboxes, but what can u do...
Eddyble 3 years ago
TOPSTAB not facestab.... u can also stab from the sides if you aim at thier spine and whenever someone gets stabbed by side or top usually yell "Noob that was a facestab!" or something idiotic like that
cookmasterr 3 years ago
This is Valves way of saying cant he face and put the knife on your backylike put his arm around you
playtogame 3 years ago
um...what?
ty16l 3 years ago
LOL!
thisissowrong9 3 years ago
Spys knife is fucked up atm.. about a month ago it was fine.. but its hard to get a backstab now IMO.. this is a vid that proves it..
Modgraham 3 years ago
This video was made in February, a few weeks before the 'fixed facestabs' patch was released.
Put it this way:
At the release of TF2, you could click on someones back and it would play the animation, and as long as you were in range of the enemy you are guaranteed a backstab, regardless of whether their back was facing you.
At the February patch, you could click on someone's back, animation would play, but the knife has to land on their back. If they turned around, you can't hit them.
fuolox 3 years ago
instead of trying to sneak up on the engie i just jump onto the sentry and kill the engie and sap the sentry cuz the sentry cant shoot
muhaimenrulez 3 years ago
oh thats okay. i've died like that as heavy b4 in a narrow corridor..where the spy COULD NOT get past me even if he could double jump :/
SYSPrison 3 years ago
Yeah, it's a top stab, he shouldn't have been crouching down like that. It's how you take out engies that are just campin' behind their little sentry/dispenser forts. The upper part of the hit box also counts for critical hits on the back burner for Pyro.
akipuff 3 years ago
theres ALOT of bugs with the knife spy is like so underpowered 1 thing i do not get face stabs arent 1 hits or at leats do 100 but i guess we gotta live in the shadows till valve fixes all the spys problmes and gives us spys an updtae i mean seriously spys deserver it more engie our too strong there shot gun killed me in 1 hit and when i go scot i cant 1 hit crit a spy
tehnooblegend 3 years ago
grammatical....error...overload!
nitrohedgehog 3 years ago 6
You think spys have problems? they should re-name the sapper the engineer piss off device
Jallentime 3 years ago
lol
CrazyChickenMFK5 3 years ago
OWNED lol id love to do this.
numbercruncher4000 3 years ago
Spy sapping my- Auhhhhhh!
ertyu1111 3 years ago 2
its funny how people complain about this but dont realize how many stabs are missed because of knife coding...
UberGusMage 3 years ago 5
i was like behind one sniper when i hit him he did a little knock back forward and turned to kill me :(
MrShroubles 3 years ago
yeah werd, spies are bloody hard to play against good teams and let's face it, if the other team is just communicating properly, that's enough to get the jump on you.
plus, with these facestabs, i'm certain a lot of what are claimed are instead due to lag compo, just like how pyro sometimes have enormous range and snipers sometimes seem to shoot through walls.
MrAngy 3 years ago
I think that the head hitboxes are just bigger then usual, that way snipers can get easy kills somethimes.
BuzzyBe 3 years ago