I have two questions. One, why the Flyer need a man holding the right wingtip at 0:13? and Two, Are you sure this is a "flight" of 115 feet? It touched the ground at 0:20 two seconds before the landing.
@MJLittleboy The Flyer is the basis for all conventional aircraft. It can be identified as having all of the elements essentials for sustained and controlled flight-it was the first true flying machine.
Try launching over gently rolling sand dunes, you may find some small updraft / slope lift to help keep it in the air long enough for that little engine to get you up to a better flying speed that will allow you to climb out of ground effect.
THis machine doesn't fly anymore. It was used for the 100th anniversary. These are vidoes of the test flights. I think that the videos prove firstly that this was a HARD machine to fly-remeber that Wilbur and Orv had trained to fly this type of machine. And secondly that the flight enevelope is very narrow. It was a necessary step towrdsa solution to the flight problem-it worked and within two years they had a practical machine.
Scientific American, April 7, 1906: "The [witnesses] all agree that the Wright aeroplane has flown and has carried a man for a considerable distance, that the machine rose from the ground mainly by its own power... No doubt whatever that these able experimenters deserve the highest credit for having perfected the first flying machine... which has ever flown successfully and at the same time carried a man. (Dumont's failed attempt occurred 6 months after this was published)
It still a wonder that we can built the F-22 raptor but no one can get one of these to fly. It just shows how incredible those two men were. I have seen things at the RC club that shouldn't fly, but they do. To try to build a plane with zero knowlage of flight is still a wonder to me. You don't get too many trial and errors with flight.
greatwhitehunter-Exactly, you hit two key points, first, there was NO previous flight experience, second, you don't get another chance, especially when a mistake could be fatal. It is very hard if not impossible for people who have grown up in an age of flight to understand the world beore flight and to imagine what a flying machine would look like. The Wrights were the exception.
In what way, to an untrained person like you who isn't looking in the right places maybe, but to people who understand the history of flight and the machine, this is a tremendous accomplishment.
What a lot of commentators miss is that there were 4 flights on Dec 17 1903. The last was just short of a minute and considering the strong (and dangerous) winds the actual distance through the air was about 1/2 mile!! Not bad at all!!!
I have read and like many others believe that the forth flight on the 17th, that you mention, is really the first truly successful flight. The distance over ground was 852 feet, at an altitude of about 10 feet, with a prevailing wind of over 20 mph.
Flyer-THe Wright Flyer was an initial attempt, it proved that the Wright's were moving closer to a practical aircraft. What's the difference, could the same be said of the Dumont attempt? You said that it could not even get off the ground, and this video disproves that, the 12hp in combination with the Wright #12 airfoil was sufficient, they weren't using trial and error, they calculated everything.With more piloting experience the flight times would improve.
rrmola-Maybe you should watch a little closer, then you'd notice that it's not grass, but sand. That's the reason for going to Kill Devil Hills in the first place namely wind and sand. I know that it must hurt false nationalist pride to face the truth, that the Flyer did fly and the claims of the Wright's are validated.
OK, OK. That's sand over there, and that Flyer replica "flew" magnificently over that sand... as every one could easily noticed. I'm just wondering: Are there any ants living on Kill Devil Hills sand currently?
Os mentirosos acabam sendo desmascarados.
123bardox 1 month ago
I have two questions. One, why the Flyer need a man holding the right wingtip at 0:13? and Two, Are you sure this is a "flight" of 115 feet? It touched the ground at 0:20 two seconds before the landing.
vlatu 4 months ago
The Flyer was the first aircraft not the 14 bis.
MJLittleboy 1 year ago
@MJLittleboy The Flyer is the basis for all conventional aircraft. It can be identified as having all of the elements essentials for sustained and controlled flight-it was the first true flying machine.
warp13 1 year ago
@warp13 Thanks for agreeing.
MJLittleboy 1 year ago
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heyther3456 1 year ago
Try launching over gently rolling sand dunes, you may find some small updraft / slope lift to help keep it in the air long enough for that little engine to get you up to a better flying speed that will allow you to climb out of ground effect.
grimeuphoria 2 years ago
THis machine doesn't fly anymore. It was used for the 100th anniversary. These are vidoes of the test flights. I think that the videos prove firstly that this was a HARD machine to fly-remeber that Wilbur and Orv had trained to fly this type of machine. And secondly that the flight enevelope is very narrow. It was a necessary step towrdsa solution to the flight problem-it worked and within two years they had a practical machine.
warp13 2 years ago
Santos Dumont,the real ande eternal "father of aviation".
fernal2007 2 years ago
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
matazap 2 years ago
@fernal2007
Scientific American, April 7, 1906: "The [witnesses] all agree that the Wright aeroplane has flown and has carried a man for a considerable distance, that the machine rose from the ground mainly by its own power... No doubt whatever that these able experimenters deserve the highest credit for having perfected the first flying machine... which has ever flown successfully and at the same time carried a man. (Dumont's failed attempt occurred 6 months after this was published)
heyther3456 1 year ago
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fernal2007 2 years ago
It still a wonder that we can built the F-22 raptor but no one can get one of these to fly. It just shows how incredible those two men were. I have seen things at the RC club that shouldn't fly, but they do. To try to build a plane with zero knowlage of flight is still a wonder to me. You don't get too many trial and errors with flight.
greatwhitehunter77 3 years ago
greatwhitehunter-Exactly, you hit two key points, first, there was NO previous flight experience, second, you don't get another chance, especially when a mistake could be fatal. It is very hard if not impossible for people who have grown up in an age of flight to understand the world beore flight and to imagine what a flying machine would look like. The Wrights were the exception.
warp13 2 years ago
How embarrassing!
pumapreto 3 years ago
In what way, to an untrained person like you who isn't looking in the right places maybe, but to people who understand the history of flight and the machine, this is a tremendous accomplishment.
warp13 3 years ago
Happy Wright Brothers Day to all!
December 17, 1903 -- December 17, 2008.
rod1148 3 years ago
What a lot of commentators miss is that there were 4 flights on Dec 17 1903. The last was just short of a minute and considering the strong (and dangerous) winds the actual distance through the air was about 1/2 mile!! Not bad at all!!!
rod1148 3 years ago
I have read and like many others believe that the forth flight on the 17th, that you mention, is really the first truly successful flight. The distance over ground was 852 feet, at an altitude of about 10 feet, with a prevailing wind of over 20 mph.
warp13 3 years ago
Flyer-THe Wright Flyer was an initial attempt, it proved that the Wright's were moving closer to a practical aircraft. What's the difference, could the same be said of the Dumont attempt? You said that it could not even get off the ground, and this video disproves that, the 12hp in combination with the Wright #12 airfoil was sufficient, they weren't using trial and error, they calculated everything.With more piloting experience the flight times would improve.
warp13 4 years ago
All that ants in the grass lowered their heads for the "Flyer" (sic) passage...
rrmola 3 years ago
rrmola-Maybe you should watch a little closer, then you'd notice that it's not grass, but sand. That's the reason for going to Kill Devil Hills in the first place namely wind and sand. I know that it must hurt false nationalist pride to face the truth, that the Flyer did fly and the claims of the Wright's are validated.
warp13 3 years ago
OK, OK. That's sand over there, and that Flyer replica "flew" magnificently over that sand... as every one could easily noticed. I'm just wondering: Are there any ants living on Kill Devil Hills sand currently?
rrmola 3 years ago
Warp13.
I am trying to understand why you are saying that this is a real flight.
This is an attempt to fly.
flyer1lyer 4 years ago