Is this knucklehead saying anti-communism equates to racism? The John Birch Society has nothing to do with racism. A cursory Wikipedia search reveals: "Antisemitic, racist, anti-Mormon, anti-Masonic, and various religious groups criticized the group's acceptance of Jews, non-whites, Masons, and Mormons. These opponents accused Welch of harboring feminist, ecumenical, and evolutionary ideas."
Oh, the irony in saying something like "[...] how much like Russia our country has become."
Now, remember. He's saying this about a group of private citizens, whose mantra is "less government" and the means to that end is by voting big government people out.
@Joe2000King One of the reasons you sheep can only parrot Republican slogans and cannot think for yourself is because you have so much fear. Autopsies of conservatives show an enlarged amygdala. This enlarged part of your brain causes you to be in fear and prevents you from processing information in a logical manner. This also explains why conservatives will cry on TV like bitches, too much emotion not enough intellect.
@Joe2000King Bring it bitch, we average 8 IQ points more than you do. The few of us who own guns are each worth dozens of you retards in life or death combat.
@Joe2000King Oh I'm scared now I've angered a cowardly inbred zoophile. What are you going to do bite me and spread the brain rotting disease you picked up on one of your animal loving escapades? You're a pathetic loser. To ignorant to make a relevant comment but desperate for any attention you can get. Don't blame your mother, I would beat your filthy ass into a crying fetal ball every chance I got.
The Koch's run the teabaggers and the teabaggers run the republican party.The greatest threat to America is the corporate financed republican party of special interests.
@Joe2000King Check out the this disgusting inbred bagger trying to scare Democrats. These keyboard bad asses are pathetic cowards. They can't debate so they put on cowardly displays of anger and ignorance. If I could get my hands on this lowlife bagger maggot this fucking coward would shut his fucking mouth real quick.
@Joe2000King Your attitude and ability to yell on the internet with threats of bodily harm do you no good in terms of promoting your views on things or answering my question, which was asked in a polite and calm manner.
Cool down little man.
If you must know, I work at this address: 520 8th Avenue North, Myrtle Beach.
@Joe2000King Naughty naughty. You failed to answer my question. And it was a very simple one too.
What purpose would my real name give you? Bank account information, social security number, sexual orientation? Why would you want to know this other than issuing a threat (that you wouldn't carry through with) on my life, or using the information to try and slander me?
@Joe2000King So you advocate the total repeal of the first amendment, have the bible enacted as law, Protestant Christianity adopted as the mandatory religion of all persons in America, and all other liberties and freedoms condemned as sin?
Spirituality is a human choice, the moment you infringe on that right by suggesting everyone to follow your religion, you lose all credibility as a person with any other issue.
Progressives do not really believe we Tea Party people are psychotic. They see us as real threats because we are on to their game. Our message of small government, personal responsibility and personal strength is a huge threat to their doctrine of personal dependence upon government -- therefore, they call us names.
Is Koch Industries receiving government handouts? Are they lobbying for bailouts? I've yet to see any evidence of that. They did, however, donate $20 million to the ACLU to fight the PATRIOT Act.
You Lib's are so funny, all this talk about is who is supporting who, yet you always seem to leave out your biggest supporter, (SOROS), why don't you all practice what you preach. Oh, right, you people don't believe in God, you all prefer to keep believing in that change you were promised, "Ya, how's that coming along by the way".
Come out of the fog Americans, Fair honest trade is the Patriotic way. Don’t be fooled by dishonest people and company's who are greedy and care only in the bottom line how rich they can become at any cost. In human dignity. For they are poor in spirit. They will at times give .00000000000000000000000000000000000001 of what they have to charity. Just to keep you quite. All along supporting slave wages abroad. And wanting us to work for less and less just for the rich can have more and more.
Teabaggers and Koch-suckers love this country so much that they'd rather lock it up in a Christian corporate dungeon and rape it to cut it's life short rather than let those who they hate have it.
That's "real" love - the kind that only "real" Americans can understand.
@viruscauser What most Tea Party members don't realized is that the GOP war/bank machine hijacked the movement. "Occupy Wall Street"people warned not to let their efforts get hijacked (like the GOP hijacked the Tea Party)
I also find that "moxnews" fans-the-flames of these divisions through the use of carefully-chosen videos with provocative titles, playing one side off the other, the same way they do it on the msm. Maybe he doesn't realize it, I have no idea, but when are we going to put aside differences to get control of our government back? It's time to renew our "subscription" for the U.S. Constitution, and agree to accept its precepts, or we can allow our "china-lite" status to become "China-hard". Up2U.
@Phalinex let me get this straight, if I mention "constitution" I'm whatever ad hominem you decide to fling at me? Yeah, I love the Constitution. I think it's the greatest human document ever conceived. I love the 37 minute Obama speech you have on your channel (filled with lies), so proudly displayed, as if his fucking war crimes and crimes against the constitution (exactly like Bush) never happened and aren't continuing...why don't you get a clue. Fucking mainstream constitution-hating moron.
@slewofdamascus Where did you get the idiotic idea that the president hates the Constitution? Did you know that president Obama is a Harvard Constitutional law professor? He graduated near the top of his class. What else can he do to convince you morons? I could write more on my hand than you baggers know about the Constitution. You have allowed yourself to be used by a corporate financed war on knowledge. There goal is to weaken the president so they can more easily take advantage of Americans.
@Phalinex Most of these teabaggers probably couldn't pass the US History class final exam that I had to take at the end of the school year to pass the tenth grade. Michelle Bachmann is a perfect example.
@benravensfan02 - Boehner didn't know the difference between the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and he's third in line to the president. There is no way to explain why anyone would want this incompetent alcoholic bag man for the corporate right to be a leader.
@Phalinex "What else can he do to convince you morons?"
Well, it's obvious he's done just enough to convince YOU morons. For those of us who are more intellectually inclined, the actual RELEASE of his school records & transcripts would be a start.
Buuut, perhaps the reason he won't release them is because, well...they just might be too embarrassing when measured up against Bush's school record.
Heh! Deny it all you want, but nothing short of full disclosure will convince more inquisitive minds.
@slewofdamascus I'll bet you showed up late to the party. Probably just got finished reading your pocket constitution and, being the patriot that you are, decided to impress everyone with your newfound knowledge.
@SmallpoxRot go cry to your 1 subscriber and 11 friends (loser?) - folks, when in doubt, just check out the corresponding channels and you will quickly see who the fucking trolls are around youtube. This fool has been commenting on a mumford and sons video (20 million hits) where all the mainstream trolls go during their government-mandated breaks. Fuck me, could you be a bigger fucking loser??? (That's a rhetoricall question, genius).
@slewofdamascus Just so you know, I don't bank my social capital on youtube. So try another insult. I'm not a troll. I just don't like you. I doubt anyone else does either.
@SmallpoxRot Shit, I like him! He's got a pocket Constitution just like me! All the KNOWLEDGEABLE Americans carry them. Better to be one of THOSE types of Americans than to be one that is remembered by the high school name that YOU'VE earned:
@SmallpoxRot I went to the same school as you for a couple years, Kip. I remember seeing you jumping up and down against the wall once, as if you were trying to find a glory hole without looking.
We must all support the American workforce for fair wages and good healthcare for all. We must care more about are average wage earners and not so much For unscrupulous businessmen. Fair trade not free trade..Non-union workers would also benefit as employers would likely raise wages to match what unions would win in order to avoid unionization.They help fair wages to exist Buy American when you can. Go on line to - Made in USA.- Demand stores to carry more American products.
@superminimizer Yeah SURE he did....that's what a number of fascists have claimed over the years, yet, they have been spearheading NWO's global fascism for decades. Anyone who thinks these fascists care about FREEDOM is a useful dupe.
You Pea Party idiots would have been credible if you protested when Bush trippled the size of gov and the ReBullCrapican Spendarella congress created a $11 Trillion defecit. You said nothing of the NO-Pay-Back $8.4 Trillion in bailouts 2001-2008. You are silent Rep Govs passing laws with Chinese labor standards, " the state will tell you whay your hours and pay will be" Dont Pea Party on my leg and tell me its raining.
lol... Mox news subscribers should just join the Ron Paul fan club... also they might want to wipe their noses... because it's so far up the that' republicans ass....
Americans for Prosperity and Heritage Foundation both lean Libertarian too.
I tend to agree with AfP the most out of who they support. Heritage Foundation tends to be a little hawkish for me. CATO tends to shun Ron Paul so I lost a lot of respect for them.
Americans for Prosperity and Heritage Foundation both lean Libertarian too.
I tend to agree with AfP the most out of who they support. Heritage Foundation tends to be a little hawkish for me. CATO tends to shun Ron Paul so I lost a lot of respect for them.
Soros funds the left, & Koch funds the right. Those aren't the only ppl who fund the left or the right. Also there are ppl fund both, e.g. Rockefeller. There are users & used. The majority of ppl have benevolent reasons to join some movements. However, there are users who used ppl's movements or sentiments to push their more sinister agendas. So, ppl, get to know who the real enemies are, & don't be a tool. A tea partier next door isn't your enemy. A liberal next door isn't your enemy.
When I kept repeating my comment people thought I was lying! They all doubted me you see! But this now proves my comment to be 100% Accurate! The Tea party infact are nothing but a bunch of illiterate corporate tools!
Hey ALL Tea Party people need to check out US Uncut! They want to lower taxes for middle class/working class families FOR REAL, they will raise taxes on the criminal banker tax dodgers & wall street monkeys that have screwed our country up!
How is it all the idiot kool aide drinkers can't see the fact that Obama is in the pocket of Big Oil, Big Banks, and Evil corporations, Union Bosses as much as any other asshat politician.
There is no free market guys just crony capitalism. And people who knock Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged either A) never read it or B) it made them see how they are looters themselves. And the people that bash Ron Paul either A) don't know anything about him or B) he reminds them of how much of a looter they are.
@shamusername Can you provide evidence of his theocratic side in politics. And could you also point out why I am intellectually depressed for enjoying a good read with philosophical value. You didn't read it.
@MrDpsummers Just google "Ron Paul" and theocratic or theocracy. Bunch load of evidence that rightwingers are happy to overlook. Ron Paul is not a true libertarian.
@HolyHannah I do know it was fiction. I've never read the turner Diaries and a quick google search and I don't think I would want to. Seems to be some kind of neo-nazi book. Why would you make that connection? again I dont think you've read Atlas Shrugged.
@MrDpsummers Ha ha. Ron Paul is getting better & has actually mocked the attack on NPR given how much the GOP is funding Afghanastan with. But Ayn Rand was pathetic. A sociopath arm & bed candy to none other than a Rothschild. She wrote a book saying selfishness was a virtue. She said nobody should ever collect a govt. benefit, even if they paid into it, and later collected Social Security & Medicare. Fraud. She was for corporate communism as was the senior Koch brother who worked for Stalin.
All the super-wealthy in this country have to do to destroy a populist movement is to give it finacial backing. Then the controlled media and American ignorance will do the rest.
@Dedhedted71 Especially after the Citizens United decision now they can buy all the political power they want. Thus all of legislation they want, perfection! What a crock are the Koch's .
@golden454 It means nothing unless your a sheepish, little mindless zombie who can't think for themselves. Will you vote for a candidate that is supported by the Koch's? Would you vote for a candidate that is backed by a Soros funded organization? Stop buying into this BS! They can donate to whom ever they want in hopes that it will sway the polls but that means nothing! Let them donate! Who cares! It doesn't make my mind up for me! Does it you! I like knowing who a candidate gets their $ from!
@Dedhedted71 Your argument may sound good but it's not that good. People are just not to be trusted with any sort of power. Even in the more socialist countries with no big business in politics some are more equal than others. There is no good politician you just have to decipher most of what they say to make any conclusion on what type of animal they are. We are all just animals.
@Dedhedted71 Except that some PAC's are completely anonymous like CrossroadsGPS anyone, any corporation can donate any amount completely anonymously to this powerful new PAC. It was a major force in the 2010 election. Look at what is happening in Wi,and Oh among others states. Voters were very influenced and now sucker punched by their newly elected Governors. The buyers remorse has set in they were sold lemons by Koch et al !
44 Billion, 88 Million, 22 Billion, 44 Million ...2 4 8 2 Shamile Shamazile Haus and Pepper Corporated..Were gonna do it..On your mark, get set and go now. 2012 Dune desert planet 224444882012 The Coke Bros The Cock Bros The Cache Bros The Crap Bros The Coke Crap Bros On a morning from a Bogart movie, in a country where they turn back time, they year of the crap.
Alan Greenspan always admitted and never denied being a libertarian who admired Ayn Rand. free market=unregulated capitalism=scam= Ron Paul=this bubble that was deflated.
@LouieArrighi The only difference is Ron Paul would not have bailed them out when the banks went belly up. If you took the chance with your investment and you knew the risks then you live or die with the results.
@LouieArrighi I'm not sure how you connected Ron Paul to the Koch brothers, but it's well-known that the Kochs don't like Ron Paul. Unlike the Koch brothers, Ron Paul is against NAFTA (and other similar managed trade deals) and military intervention.
@RonPaulClassics Ron Paul > Republican Party > Texas > Bush > Lying to win support of ignorant > Voted For Afghan War > Rand Paul > Tea Party > Koch.... see i did it
Yawn ... more "reporting" on billionaire Soros, I mean billionaire Koch brothers. Imagine billionaires spending money for political influence, control and self interests.
Cynical politics is new? Mark Ames is an uniformed bias prick. Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." Yeah this is new.
@bodryn You need to read more along the biographical lines. While Jefferson and Adams had their feuds (mostly due to Hamilton, whom Abby Adams thought wanted to make himself a Napoleon) in the nascence of the US, they reconciled after they were out of office, and had a long series of exchanges of letters on all kinds of topics. Though I'll take Adams, who kept us out of a war between England and France, over Jefferson, who never came close to living his idealistic rhetoric.
@mexcurmudgeon I definitely need to read a lot more than I have. I enjoyed Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia, and I thought he was smart making that Louisiana Purchase. I remember once JFK was talking to some group and said it was a meeting of the most intelligent people ever, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone. I thought JFK was brilliant, too, and his use of vocabulary at press conferences verified that.
@mexcurmudgeon I am finding it interesting now that "supply side economics" is falling into disrepute, after some 30 years, brought about by Reagan, Kissinger, others wanting to impose that on the people. Keynesian thought is beginning to enjoy a resurgence. Henry Ford certainly had some similar views when he doubled wages so that his workers would also be able to afford the cars they made.
Fascism - "A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton]
I don't have a dog in this fight, because I don't think the Tea Party is a revelation, it's a cadre of FOX/Glen Beck followers, still guided by right-wing, media-driven, mainstream sensibilities. Please acknowledge the truth about left-wing activism and the George Soros' of this world - for whom that sort of billionaire-driven activism has been decades-old success story involving countless NGOs and the spectre of PAID activists. When the "right" tries it...ALARM BELLS A RINGIN'! Total hypocrisy.
@slewofdamascus You have to admit, there are very few Soros' in this world compared to the Koch Bros of this world. Most super-rich don't care beans about the rest of us.
@bodryn I think it depends how you define the parameters. In terms of street activism, the left has been funding that for decades through various left-wing agencies. I run into paid activists almost everyday in the bay area, and nothing about that has changed for 30+ years. I have never seen any paid right-wing activists on the street soliciting for right-wing causes. I suspect it is similar in other metropolitan areas. If you are talking about billionaire behind-the-scenes donors, who knows?
@slewofdamascus Well, we have just learned that the Koch Bros were behind the earliest development of the Tea Party phenomenon. During the height of the Madison demonstrations, when up to 150,000 people were in the streets, a small contingent of tea partiers were bussed in, thanks to Koch Bros, to try to show a meaningful opposition to the people. (It fell pretty flat.) The Koch's father was involved in the John Birch society phenom.
@bodryn based on comments, each side is cherry-picking the "facts" to make their argument seem more credible - it's kind of pathetic when you consider how - through this kind of divisive "programming" - "we the people" have lost all control of our government; "presidential" campaigns are meaningless diversions. Obama is a fraud, Bush is a fraud (both campaigned as respectful constitutionalists), "our" govt. has been on a singular dictatorial path for decades, the "President" is a figure-head.
@slewofdamascus We probably agree on the basic concept that the American presidency has become sort of a puppet of the transnational corporatocracy that essentially is becoming the New World Order, but in a way that the government conspiracy theorists might not have envisioned. Now we see the nuts and bolts of how gubernatorial campaigns are also being controlled by billionaires. There are remaining questions as to who are the wealthy controllers: Wall Street? The Chinese?
@rickbar123 Yep, that old game: privatize the gains, socialize the losses. I.e., the taxpayers always have to pay to clean up the messes left by corporations, but they don't get much gain out of corporate profits, which are kept offshore to avoid taxes.
@agent1up no i actually just havent been brainwashed by msnbc to think that philanthropists who donate to causes they support are evil. Especially causes they believe in so much they run for a US government office in a party that represents their views, i.e. one of them running for Vice President as a libertarian
@agent1up yes, im so up high that i support stalin who was at the bottom left. Stalin was a great guy and i fully support his free market, limited government views
@oJKBo You aren't serious about Stalin, are you? For the info of readers, Stalin reportedly had unknown millions of people killed in the Soviet Gulag. Solzhenitsyn provided first hand accounts; fascinating reading.
@bodryn what? according to that other guy because the koch's father worked for stalin, im both a tea bagger and a stalin lover. stalin killed people? This guy made me think he was super liberal (classically/of the original liberals). but yes, i was being quite sarcastic
@oJKBo Well, then I guess you're being so sarcastic that it is very difficult to tell where you are coming from. That kind of sarcasm is pretty self-defeating because the message gets lost in the translation. I have occasionally run into that phenomenon in recent years - not sure why this is.
i enjoyed this vid
smuggecko 1 month ago
great video thanks
MrBrucebracey 1 month ago
some really good stuff here
willbirful 1 month ago
you have some great stuff here
bribribri56 1 month ago
Final note: Subsidies =/= tax cuts.
But of the subsidies that do exist, it's bipartisan corruption. It's disingenuous to claim that either party is to blame.
RippIemagne 3 months ago
Is this knucklehead saying anti-communism equates to racism? The John Birch Society has nothing to do with racism. A cursory Wikipedia search reveals: "Antisemitic, racist, anti-Mormon, anti-Masonic, and various religious groups criticized the group's acceptance of Jews, non-whites, Masons, and Mormons. These opponents accused Welch of harboring feminist, ecumenical, and evolutionary ideas."
Oh, the irony in saying something like "[...] how much like Russia our country has become."
RippIemagne 3 months ago
"The unholy alliance between business and state."
Now, remember. He's saying this about a group of private citizens, whose mantra is "less government" and the means to that end is by voting big government people out.
RippIemagne 3 months ago
@Joe2000King One of the reasons you sheep can only parrot Republican slogans and cannot think for yourself is because you have so much fear. Autopsies of conservatives show an enlarged amygdala. This enlarged part of your brain causes you to be in fear and prevents you from processing information in a logical manner. This also explains why conservatives will cry on TV like bitches, too much emotion not enough intellect.
needparalegal 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Bring it bitch, we average 8 IQ points more than you do. The few of us who own guns are each worth dozens of you retards in life or death combat.
needparalegal 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Im a proud Democrat
Obama 2012
MbretiLirim 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Oh I'm scared now I've angered a cowardly inbred zoophile. What are you going to do bite me and spread the brain rotting disease you picked up on one of your animal loving escapades? You're a pathetic loser. To ignorant to make a relevant comment but desperate for any attention you can get. Don't blame your mother, I would beat your filthy ass into a crying fetal ball every chance I got.
Phalinex 5 months ago
The Koch's run the teabaggers and the teabaggers run the republican party.The greatest threat to America is the corporate financed republican party of special interests.
Phalinex 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Check out the this disgusting inbred bagger trying to scare Democrats. These keyboard bad asses are pathetic cowards. They can't debate so they put on cowardly displays of anger and ignorance. If I could get my hands on this lowlife bagger maggot this fucking coward would shut his fucking mouth real quick.
Phalinex 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Your attitude and ability to yell on the internet with threats of bodily harm do you no good in terms of promoting your views on things or answering my question, which was asked in a polite and calm manner.
Cool down little man.
If you must know, I work at this address: 520 8th Avenue North, Myrtle Beach.
Not the job I wanted, but it helps pay the bills.
Reynard13Fuchs 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Naughty naughty. You failed to answer my question. And it was a very simple one too.
What purpose would my real name give you? Bank account information, social security number, sexual orientation? Why would you want to know this other than issuing a threat (that you wouldn't carry through with) on my life, or using the information to try and slander me?
Reynard13Fuchs 5 months ago
@Joe2000King Tell me what political party this sounds like then, a little bit of a 'riddle me this' sort of thing.
What major party supports:
-Decreasing regulations on companies
-Lowering taxes to promote growth and combat unemployment
Reynard13Fuchs 5 months ago
@Joe2000King So you advocate the total repeal of the first amendment, have the bible enacted as law, Protestant Christianity adopted as the mandatory religion of all persons in America, and all other liberties and freedoms condemned as sin?
Spirituality is a human choice, the moment you infringe on that right by suggesting everyone to follow your religion, you lose all credibility as a person with any other issue.
Reynard13Fuchs 5 months ago
TEABAGGERS ARE SO DAMN DUMB. WE'VE BEEN SAYING IT FROM THE START.
erockula 6 months ago
How do you think bush came into office ?
KingofDApin 6 months ago
The ReTEArd Party! YAY! No Health Care. Suffer unless your filthy rich! But pay taxes for wars you can't win!
Bugstomper2 6 months ago
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Progressives do not really believe we Tea Party people are psychotic. They see us as real threats because we are on to their game. Our message of small government, personal responsibility and personal strength is a huge threat to their doctrine of personal dependence upon government -- therefore, they call us names.
vechorik 7 months ago
WOW! Its hard to believe that people are brainwashed by these boys!!!!!
MsHappygirl23 7 months ago
Is Koch Industries receiving government handouts? Are they lobbying for bailouts? I've yet to see any evidence of that. They did, however, donate $20 million to the ACLU to fight the PATRIOT Act.
bcsizemore 11 months ago
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bcsizemore 11 months ago
You Lib's are so funny, all this talk about is who is supporting who, yet you always seem to leave out your biggest supporter, (SOROS), why don't you all practice what you preach. Oh, right, you people don't believe in God, you all prefer to keep believing in that change you were promised, "Ya, how's that coming along by the way".
rmoore9967 11 months ago
Support American jobs on line at Made in USA
bestwayusa1 11 months ago
Koch Brothers honest business man who funded a great movement called the tea party god bless them if they believe in god lol.
JBBlitz 11 months ago
Come out of the fog Americans, Fair honest trade is the Patriotic way. Don’t be fooled by dishonest people and company's who are greedy and care only in the bottom line how rich they can become at any cost. In human dignity. For they are poor in spirit. They will at times give .00000000000000000000000000000000000001 of what they have to charity. Just to keep you quite. All along supporting slave wages abroad. And wanting us to work for less and less just for the rich can have more and more.
bestwayusa1 11 months ago
No one knew who George Soros was until he spent billions on liberal think tanks, organizations etc. Wonder why you don't talk about him?
Standonarock 11 months ago
The Koch Bros are so evil, Adolf Hitler would be spinning in his grave, if he had one.
bodryn 11 months ago
Teabaggers and Koch-suckers love this country so much that they'd rather lock it up in a Christian corporate dungeon and rape it to cut it's life short rather than let those who they hate have it.
That's "real" love - the kind that only "real" Americans can understand.
Fox News/Koch Brothers 2012 !!!!!
viruscauser 11 months ago 4
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@viruscauser What most Tea Party members don't realized is that the GOP war/bank machine hijacked the movement. "Occupy Wall Street"people warned not to let their efforts get hijacked (like the GOP hijacked the Tea Party)
Napolitano suggests common goals.
End the Fed
End the wars
End the income tax
/watch?v=nF30eMuWFHI
vechorik 4 months ago
The first irony of the Koch empire is that Fred Koch made his fortune on government contracts... in Soviet Russia.
The second, even greater irony is that Charles and David Koch are Libertarians, given that they are parasites who inherited their wealth.
getplaning 11 months ago 3
After hearing the conversation between Scott Walker and one of the Koch brothers, I believe what this segment says is true.
lennysmom 11 months ago
I also find that "moxnews" fans-the-flames of these divisions through the use of carefully-chosen videos with provocative titles, playing one side off the other, the same way they do it on the msm. Maybe he doesn't realize it, I have no idea, but when are we going to put aside differences to get control of our government back? It's time to renew our "subscription" for the U.S. Constitution, and agree to accept its precepts, or we can allow our "china-lite" status to become "China-hard". Up2U.
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus Would you cut the blubbering bagger bullshit and try to make a specific point?
Phalinex 11 months ago
@Phalinex let me get this straight, if I mention "constitution" I'm whatever ad hominem you decide to fling at me? Yeah, I love the Constitution. I think it's the greatest human document ever conceived. I love the 37 minute Obama speech you have on your channel (filled with lies), so proudly displayed, as if his fucking war crimes and crimes against the constitution (exactly like Bush) never happened and aren't continuing...why don't you get a clue. Fucking mainstream constitution-hating moron.
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus Where did you get the idiotic idea that the president hates the Constitution? Did you know that president Obama is a Harvard Constitutional law professor? He graduated near the top of his class. What else can he do to convince you morons? I could write more on my hand than you baggers know about the Constitution. You have allowed yourself to be used by a corporate financed war on knowledge. There goal is to weaken the president so they can more easily take advantage of Americans.
Phalinex 11 months ago
@Phalinex Most of these teabaggers probably couldn't pass the US History class final exam that I had to take at the end of the school year to pass the tenth grade. Michelle Bachmann is a perfect example.
benravensfan02 11 months ago
@benravensfan02 - Boehner didn't know the difference between the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and he's third in line to the president. There is no way to explain why anyone would want this incompetent alcoholic bag man for the corporate right to be a leader.
Phalinex 11 months ago
@Phalinex "What else can he do to convince you morons?"
Well, it's obvious he's done just enough to convince YOU morons. For those of us who are more intellectually inclined, the actual RELEASE of his school records & transcripts would be a start.
Buuut, perhaps the reason he won't release them is because, well...they just might be too embarrassing when measured up against Bush's school record.
Heh! Deny it all you want, but nothing short of full disclosure will convince more inquisitive minds.
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus I'll bet you showed up late to the party. Probably just got finished reading your pocket constitution and, being the patriot that you are, decided to impress everyone with your newfound knowledge.
SmallpoxRot 11 months ago
@SmallpoxRot uh-huh, that's it, now go pester someone else
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus Yeah, I'm sure it is. Please tell me you didn't actually finish college ten years ago.
SmallpoxRot 11 months ago
@SmallpoxRot go cry to your 1 subscriber and 11 friends (loser?) - folks, when in doubt, just check out the corresponding channels and you will quickly see who the fucking trolls are around youtube. This fool has been commenting on a mumford and sons video (20 million hits) where all the mainstream trolls go during their government-mandated breaks. Fuck me, could you be a bigger fucking loser??? (That's a rhetoricall question, genius).
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus Just so you know, I don't bank my social capital on youtube. So try another insult. I'm not a troll. I just don't like you. I doubt anyone else does either.
SmallpoxRot 11 months ago
@SmallpoxRot Shit, I like him! He's got a pocket Constitution just like me! All the KNOWLEDGEABLE Americans carry them. Better to be one of THOSE types of Americans than to be one that is remembered by the high school name that YOU'VE earned:
Kip Kocklicker
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
@QuartuvLarry Are you still copying what some nut said weeks ago? Bummer.
SmallpoxRot 11 months ago
@SmallpoxRot I went to the same school as you for a couple years, Kip. I remember seeing you jumping up and down against the wall once, as if you were trying to find a glory hole without looking.
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
@QuartuvLarry I honestly don't know if you're kidding, but you didn't. You need some real help, Larry.
SmallpoxRot 11 months ago
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We must all support the American workforce for fair wages and good healthcare for all. We must care more about are average wage earners and not so much For unscrupulous businessmen. Fair trade not free trade..Non-union workers would also benefit as employers would likely raise wages to match what unions would win in order to avoid unionization.They help fair wages to exist Buy American when you can. Go on line to - Made in USA.- Demand stores to carry more American products.
bestwayusa1 11 months ago
The older Koch became anti-communist whilst in Stalinist Russia. Its disingenuous to play the Stalin card the way they did.
superminimizer 11 months ago
@superminimizer Yeah SURE he did....that's what a number of fascists have claimed over the years, yet, they have been spearheading NWO's global fascism for decades. Anyone who thinks these fascists care about FREEDOM is a useful dupe.
orangejuiceluv 11 months ago
Everyone should watch this one. Everyone..Because the Koch Bros Money is going to try to take over our elections..
..This honest video, needs to be wathed by all
stuartarticles 11 months ago
You Pea Party idiots would have been credible if you protested when Bush trippled the size of gov and the ReBullCrapican Spendarella congress created a $11 Trillion defecit. You said nothing of the NO-Pay-Back $8.4 Trillion in bailouts 2001-2008. You are silent Rep Govs passing laws with Chinese labor standards, " the state will tell you whay your hours and pay will be" Dont Pea Party on my leg and tell me its raining.
m530bc 11 months ago
lol... Mox news subscribers should just join the Ron Paul fan club... also they might want to wipe their noses... because it's so far up the that' republicans ass....
just sayin'
lSeKToRl 11 months ago
@lSeKToRl Moxxy brings in the trolls thats for sure
chocobosage420 11 months ago
fuckin hell ratigan, you asked him 6 questions over 34 seconds without inhaling, Are you OK?
unclewooly 11 months ago
What about Soros? What is the difference?
I don't see any.
BTW, teh Koch brothers are more Libertarian than Conservative. They actually have been supporting Libertarian causes for years.
PizzaGod 11 months ago
@PizzaGod how?
losarman 11 months ago
@losarman Because he is a billionaire, openly trying to influence Us politics with his fortune. At least the Koch brothers are Americans.
hozehd 11 months ago
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@losarman Well they support CATO for one.
Americans for Prosperity and Heritage Foundation both lean Libertarian too.
I tend to agree with AfP the most out of who they support. Heritage Foundation tends to be a little hawkish for me. CATO tends to shun Ron Paul so I lost a lot of respect for them.
PizzaGod 11 months ago
@PizzaGod Whats that tell you about Libertarian causes?
chocobosage420 11 months ago
@chocobosage420
Well they support CATO for one.
Americans for Prosperity and Heritage Foundation both lean Libertarian too.
I tend to agree with AfP the most out of who they support. Heritage Foundation tends to be a little hawkish for me. CATO tends to shun Ron Paul so I lost a lot of respect for them.
PizzaGod 11 months ago
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Soros funds the left, & Koch funds the right. Those aren't the only ppl who fund the left or the right. Also there are ppl fund both, e.g. Rockefeller. There are users & used. The majority of ppl have benevolent reasons to join some movements. However, there are users who used ppl's movements or sentiments to push their more sinister agendas. So, ppl, get to know who the real enemies are, & don't be a tool. A tea partier next door isn't your enemy. A liberal next door isn't your enemy.
nonaCbarC 11 months ago
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nonaCbarC 11 months ago
Another senseless rant sponsored by George Soros.
lenfantterribleX 11 months ago
88m in the next elections... Wonder how much will go to Ron Paul? NONE!
asperin 11 months ago
When I kept repeating my comment people thought I was lying! They all doubted me you see! But this now proves my comment to be 100% Accurate! The Tea party infact are nothing but a bunch of illiterate corporate tools!
deeppurple28 11 months ago
Ratigan is one of the few semi-watchdogs we have him & maybe judge.
MadXMax187 11 months ago
Hey ALL Tea Party people need to check out US Uncut! They want to lower taxes for middle class/working class families FOR REAL, they will raise taxes on the criminal banker tax dodgers & wall street monkeys that have screwed our country up!
MadXMax187 11 months ago
How is it all the idiot kool aide drinkers can't see the fact that Obama is in the pocket of Big Oil, Big Banks, and Evil corporations, Union Bosses as much as any other asshat politician.
MrSuperpat 11 months ago 2
There is no free market guys just crony capitalism. And people who knock Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged either A) never read it or B) it made them see how they are looters themselves. And the people that bash Ron Paul either A) don't know anything about him or B) he reminds them of how much of a looter they are.
MrDpsummers 11 months ago 9
@MrDpsummers Ron Paul is a theocrat and Rand-loving libertarians are intellectual sloths.
shamusername 11 months ago
@shamusername Can you provide evidence of his theocratic side in politics. And could you also point out why I am intellectually depressed for enjoying a good read with philosophical value. You didn't read it.
MrDpsummers 11 months ago
@MrDpsummers Just google "Ron Paul" and theocratic or theocracy. Bunch load of evidence that rightwingers are happy to overlook. Ron Paul is not a true libertarian.
shamusername 11 months ago
@MrDpsummers uh dear -- you do know Ayn Rand's work was FICTION, right? Bet you're a fan of the Turner Diaries too.
HolyHannah 11 months ago
@HolyHannah I do know it was fiction. I've never read the turner Diaries and a quick google search and I don't think I would want to. Seems to be some kind of neo-nazi book. Why would you make that connection? again I dont think you've read Atlas Shrugged.
MrDpsummers 11 months ago
@MrDpsummers Ha ha. Ron Paul is getting better & has actually mocked the attack on NPR given how much the GOP is funding Afghanastan with. But Ayn Rand was pathetic. A sociopath arm & bed candy to none other than a Rothschild. She wrote a book saying selfishness was a virtue. She said nobody should ever collect a govt. benefit, even if they paid into it, and later collected Social Security & Medicare. Fraud. She was for corporate communism as was the senior Koch brother who worked for Stalin.
markdown01 11 months ago
All the super-wealthy in this country have to do to destroy a populist movement is to give it finacial backing. Then the controlled media and American ignorance will do the rest.
idontbelieveinDeath 11 months ago
yawn
MrGreeneggsnham 11 months ago
The Koch bros must laugh themselves to sleep every night. They've played these ignorant teabaggers like a cheap piano.
Phalinex 11 months ago 14
@Phalinex more like an organ (male)
rickbar123 11 months ago
There's no news here. The Koch brothers can donate to whom ever they want. Just like every other billionaire on the planet.
Dedhedted71 11 months ago
@Dedhedted71 Especially after the Citizens United decision now they can buy all the political power they want. Thus all of legislation they want, perfection! What a crock are the Koch's .
golden454 11 months ago
@golden454 It means nothing unless your a sheepish, little mindless zombie who can't think for themselves. Will you vote for a candidate that is supported by the Koch's? Would you vote for a candidate that is backed by a Soros funded organization? Stop buying into this BS! They can donate to whom ever they want in hopes that it will sway the polls but that means nothing! Let them donate! Who cares! It doesn't make my mind up for me! Does it you! I like knowing who a candidate gets their $ from!
Dedhedted71 11 months ago
@Dedhedted71 Your argument may sound good but it's not that good. People are just not to be trusted with any sort of power. Even in the more socialist countries with no big business in politics some are more equal than others. There is no good politician you just have to decipher most of what they say to make any conclusion on what type of animal they are. We are all just animals.
thundavolt 11 months ago
@Dedhedted71 Except that some PAC's are completely anonymous like CrossroadsGPS anyone, any corporation can donate any amount completely anonymously to this powerful new PAC. It was a major force in the 2010 election. Look at what is happening in Wi,and Oh among others states. Voters were very influenced and now sucker punched by their newly elected Governors. The buyers remorse has set in they were sold lemons by Koch et al !
golden454 11 months ago
44 Billion, 88 Million, 22 Billion, 44 Million ...2 4 8 2 Shamile Shamazile Haus and Pepper Corporated..Were gonna do it..On your mark, get set and go now. 2012 Dune desert planet 224444882012 The Coke Bros The Cock Bros The Cache Bros The Crap Bros The Coke Crap Bros On a morning from a Bogart movie, in a country where they turn back time, they year of the crap.
JacquePoopstove 11 months ago
Alan Greenspan always admitted and never denied being a libertarian who admired Ayn Rand. free market=unregulated capitalism=scam= Ron Paul=this bubble that was deflated.
LouieArrighi 11 months ago
@LouieArrighi The only difference is Ron Paul would not have bailed them out when the banks went belly up. If you took the chance with your investment and you knew the risks then you live or die with the results.
MrSuperpat 11 months ago
MSNBC has the KOCH brothers and fox news has Geroge Sorros
wtf0804 11 months ago
the Koch Brothers=fascism=Fascism=Ron Paul=teaparty
LouieArrighi 11 months ago
@LouieArrighi Stop posting stupid nonsense troll.
Dedhedted71 11 months ago
@LouieArrighi I'm not sure how you connected Ron Paul to the Koch brothers, but it's well-known that the Kochs don't like Ron Paul. Unlike the Koch brothers, Ron Paul is against NAFTA (and other similar managed trade deals) and military intervention.
RonPaulClassics 11 months ago 3
@RonPaulClassics Ron Paul > Republican Party > Texas > Bush > Lying to win support of ignorant > Voted For Afghan War > Rand Paul > Tea Party > Koch.... see i did it
lSeKToRl 11 months ago
@lSeKToRl LOL
RonPaulClassics 11 months ago
Yawn ... more "reporting" on billionaire Soros, I mean billionaire Koch brothers. Imagine billionaires spending money for political influence, control and self interests.
gsuitter 11 months ago
Lets say i'm a Russian oil tycoon and I start building an oil refinery in the U.S. Does that mean I'm working for President Obama?
idontbelieveinDeath 11 months ago
So it was the Koch Bros Tea Party all along. Very interesting!
bodryn 11 months ago
Cynical politics is new? Mark Ames is an uniformed bias prick. Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." Yeah this is new.
sintruder 11 months ago
@sintruder Jefferson and Adams definitely did not get along. To choose between those two, I'd choose Jefferson.
bodryn 11 months ago
@bodryn You need to read more along the biographical lines. While Jefferson and Adams had their feuds (mostly due to Hamilton, whom Abby Adams thought wanted to make himself a Napoleon) in the nascence of the US, they reconciled after they were out of office, and had a long series of exchanges of letters on all kinds of topics. Though I'll take Adams, who kept us out of a war between England and France, over Jefferson, who never came close to living his idealistic rhetoric.
mexcurmudgeon 11 months ago
@mexcurmudgeon I definitely need to read a lot more than I have. I enjoyed Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia, and I thought he was smart making that Louisiana Purchase. I remember once JFK was talking to some group and said it was a meeting of the most intelligent people ever, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone. I thought JFK was brilliant, too, and his use of vocabulary at press conferences verified that.
bodryn 11 months ago
@mexcurmudgeon I am finding it interesting now that "supply side economics" is falling into disrepute, after some 30 years, brought about by Reagan, Kissinger, others wanting to impose that on the people. Keynesian thought is beginning to enjoy a resurgence. Henry Ford certainly had some similar views when he doubled wages so that his workers would also be able to afford the cars they made.
bodryn 11 months ago
Fascism - "A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton]
Mahoivlich 11 months ago
I don't have a dog in this fight, because I don't think the Tea Party is a revelation, it's a cadre of FOX/Glen Beck followers, still guided by right-wing, media-driven, mainstream sensibilities. Please acknowledge the truth about left-wing activism and the George Soros' of this world - for whom that sort of billionaire-driven activism has been decades-old success story involving countless NGOs and the spectre of PAID activists. When the "right" tries it...ALARM BELLS A RINGIN'! Total hypocrisy.
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus yeah whatever...
agent1up 11 months ago
@agent1up buhhrilliant fucking comeback
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus You have to admit, there are very few Soros' in this world compared to the Koch Bros of this world. Most super-rich don't care beans about the rest of us.
bodryn 11 months ago
@bodryn I think it depends how you define the parameters. In terms of street activism, the left has been funding that for decades through various left-wing agencies. I run into paid activists almost everyday in the bay area, and nothing about that has changed for 30+ years. I have never seen any paid right-wing activists on the street soliciting for right-wing causes. I suspect it is similar in other metropolitan areas. If you are talking about billionaire behind-the-scenes donors, who knows?
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus Well, we have just learned that the Koch Bros were behind the earliest development of the Tea Party phenomenon. During the height of the Madison demonstrations, when up to 150,000 people were in the streets, a small contingent of tea partiers were bussed in, thanks to Koch Bros, to try to show a meaningful opposition to the people. (It fell pretty flat.) The Koch's father was involved in the John Birch society phenom.
bodryn 11 months ago
@bodryn based on comments, each side is cherry-picking the "facts" to make their argument seem more credible - it's kind of pathetic when you consider how - through this kind of divisive "programming" - "we the people" have lost all control of our government; "presidential" campaigns are meaningless diversions. Obama is a fraud, Bush is a fraud (both campaigned as respectful constitutionalists), "our" govt. has been on a singular dictatorial path for decades, the "President" is a figure-head.
slewofdamascus 11 months ago
@slewofdamascus We probably agree on the basic concept that the American presidency has become sort of a puppet of the transnational corporatocracy that essentially is becoming the New World Order, but in a way that the government conspiracy theorists might not have envisioned. Now we see the nuts and bolts of how gubernatorial campaigns are also being controlled by billionaires. There are remaining questions as to who are the wealthy controllers: Wall Street? The Chinese?
bodryn 11 months ago
It's Free Market for me and you. For the Rich it's the Nanny State, the bigger the better.
rickbar123 11 months ago
@rickbar123 Yep, that old game: privatize the gains, socialize the losses. I.e., the taxpayers always have to pay to clean up the messes left by corporations, but they don't get much gain out of corporate profits, which are kept offshore to avoid taxes.
bodryn 11 months ago
thier father worked for Stalin...call glenn beck talks about soros all the time but these scum actually worked for stalin...lol
agent1up 11 months ago
oh no evil dirty koch brothers donating to cancer research and the aclu. Rich people should only be able to donate large sums of money to liberals.
oJKBo 11 months ago
@oJKBo they are evil...what do you work for them? im not a liberal either.
agent1up 11 months ago
@agent1up no i actually just havent been brainwashed by msnbc to think that philanthropists who donate to causes they support are evil. Especially causes they believe in so much they run for a US government office in a party that represents their views, i.e. one of them running for Vice President as a libertarian
oJKBo 11 months ago
@oJKBo yeah whatever you tea bagger stalin lover...
agent1up 11 months ago
@agent1up yes, im so up high that i support stalin who was at the bottom left. Stalin was a great guy and i fully support his free market, limited government views
oJKBo 11 months ago
@oJKBo You aren't serious about Stalin, are you? For the info of readers, Stalin reportedly had unknown millions of people killed in the Soviet Gulag. Solzhenitsyn provided first hand accounts; fascinating reading.
bodryn 11 months ago
@bodryn what? according to that other guy because the koch's father worked for stalin, im both a tea bagger and a stalin lover. stalin killed people? This guy made me think he was super liberal (classically/of the original liberals). but yes, i was being quite sarcastic
oJKBo 11 months ago
@oJKBo Well, then I guess you're being so sarcastic that it is very difficult to tell where you are coming from. That kind of sarcasm is pretty self-defeating because the message gets lost in the translation. I have occasionally run into that phenomenon in recent years - not sure why this is.
bodryn 11 months ago