If your taking a dozer down a steephill you need to drop your blade and take some material with you and use your ripper as an anchor if needed. Once your commited and going down don't plan on backing up.
The machine was a Deere 850C and the blade was up because the operator was attempting to back up. This operator was no rookie as he had over 30 years in the seat of a Dozer.
watching the video over and over it appears the operator is inexperienced. that blade should not be all the way up in the air like that. his first mistake. very unfortunate
@sirchadwick77 although i'm not a machine operator, but a little understanding and discussion with operators, the operator fails then I realize. The blade should be low.
Unfortunately, the video depicts a real accident in which the operator was killed. The Crystal Tips claim on Peterson Mountain, where the accident occurred, is an amethyst mine known for "elestial" and "scepter" quartz specimens that are highly prized by collectors. The mine is worked intermittently and the finds sold at rock and gem show. Details of the accident may be found at the Mine Safety and Health Administration website.
I can see the operator is attemting to use the ripper around 1.40 and he is faced down hill with his push blade all of the way up it appears as he is trying to set the ripper he is trying to back up a bit then rolls forward in 2 short moves as though the ripper is being set then the camera goes off. I would assume the operator thought he had the ripper set and was looking out the back window and probably took pressure off of the brake pedel and had failed to keep the trans in gear.
The D9H would have been noticeable, even without all the zoom from the camera...it has an extremely long nose, and was sometimes equipped with logging sweeps from the top corners of the cab, down to the nose of the engine compartment...Plus a "9" was always right at 90k - 100k lb. This video clearly shows a "6" size tractor, as someone else mentioned, a 20 ton machine.
Pursuant to comments below...the earliest high track Cat was the original D10 released to certain coal mines in the last part of 1980...then shortly later, the D8L in '81(which was a "9" size)...Also, the D9H later became the 8L, as their was never a "K" model built, as in the D8K...some of the earliest 9N's came out in '86 and '87, along with that series, D8N, 9N and 10N. The 9N replaced the 8L at roughly 105k lb.
It doesn't look like a D9 Cat to me...At three times during the video, you can see it distinctly...looks more like an 850C JD with a multishank ripper and SU blade. If you look closely, you can see the black pinstriping below the window.
It was filmed by a elderly couple from Canada on vacation.I don't think they owned a cell phone at that time the incident took place May 2000 far from a public telephone and the claim owner was in close proximity of the operator.So are you looking to blame someone?
Any one else curious why the camera operator is so quiet? And didn't even think to make a call? Granted this is out of my zone of knowledge but personally if I saw a 20ton machine tumbling down a hill, if I was recording it happen, I think I would be the first person to call it in...
this is one of the most violent things i have seen on youtube. That is an extrodinary amount of mass to be thrown around like it is on the end of a rope. WOW.
@mrdzicc thats an older D9 almost all the dozers tracks were like that, no matter what size they were. they didnt introduce the high tracks to the dozers until a later year im not quite sure though
Poor bugger,it was over as soon as he dropped that dozer over the edge just to push one boulder,there was no going back,he was to steep,i make my coin operating dozers in rock country as well 30 years of it,its up to yourselves to make a dangerous job safe,put the dozer on safe ground,push safe ground in to dangerous ground then dangerous becomes safe how ever long it takes....this is still a dangerous game we work,one wrong over,my deepest regrets to his family.
@jackG622 i agree with every word you say jack. once he come over that edge he wasnt going back. he would have been trying to reverse back up & lost traction on 1 side then bingo.
Whomever sent that operator up there should be thrown in jail and sued to the nuts. It is so obvious that this guy was not experienced enough to be in that kind of ground. This tragity should have never accured. I feel for his loved ones. What an awfull waist of a young life.
why don't they call 911???! And what in the fucking hell was he thinking?!?! A dozer's tracks are slippery on rock! This was very bad judgement! Maybe he just didn't have enough experience, but it still was dumb, crystals or no crystals!
27yrs on bullies, and many hrs spent on similar slopes, this video is awake up call to us operators. Always work your machine on a firm bench no matter what .Safety first . Track yr way down to dislodge boulder. Always work within your own means and experience. Condolences to the family.
shit, just rolled my 450j today. Thank God I wasn't seriously injured but the dozer is stuck in a deep canyon laying upside down. Makes me want to hire people to do this for me. Too Frickin scary. GOD BLESS
By the looks of the Ripper and blade cyl it looks like a 850c not a komatsu.
Who knows what happend is foot could have slipped of the decel or thought he was in reverse and was in forward or somtimes dozers just skate on rocks any way it is tragic and shows no matter what. operating on slopes can be a deadly job!
I don't wanna start a big argument or debate here but i think that is a komatsu it's doesnt have the shape of the Cat D9 you can really tell the shape of this dozer at 1:40 any experienced operator can tell it's not a cat Prayers with his family
I operate heavy equipment myself and let me tell you nowone likes to see a fellow operator get hurt or especially killed. My condolences too his family. Things can happen people can make mistakes and we are only human. I certainly wouldn't judge the man. It's just sad to me. Watched the video of a guy loose a cat excavator down a steep hill, he didn't have a chance either.
Um thats not a high track Cat. Also looks like he's pushing boulders off the cliff. Looks like he lost traction and slid. Imagine 50,000# rolling at 60 MPH and the forces. Im sure he was gone by the third roll from the forces acting and being bounced around. I believe he was gone before he knew what even happened. (Adrenaline blackout) Feel bad forthe family.
I live in the closest house to this mine and hike there all the time. It is on the north end of the Peterson mountain range by North Red Rock road. The couple filming it was from Canada and they were told to watch out for boulders rolling of the mountain so they thought they would film it. The camera was put down for a moment just before the Dozer teetered on a large boulder that started the roll. It started in Nevada and stopped in Ca. all on BLM land. He was trying clean up the tailings. RIP
@richard833 you sir are an idiot if you you think someone could have survived that. D9's are pretty big dozers and rolling down that hill tore the thing to SHREDS. just imagine what was going on inside the cab. Even if he had his seatbelt on, his head would be jerking around so violently that it would have been impossible to survive.
This guy didnt have 35 years you can tell by how he was turning sideways just before he rolled, an experienced operator knows the limits of the machine he is running, an experienced operator would keep the blade faceing streight down the hill and on the ground, you could probably have made if down the slope with a blade full of dirt in front of you and the ripper down too as long as there were no large rocks in your way.
@wareznorth Your right about the blade. I'am not positive but I think its the C's that come with a jake on them as well just for pushing down Even with a jake it wont do you any good if the blades up if its that steep.
the guy was an dozer operator for 35 years...after he was killed the msha gave him a citation for not wearing his seat belt.....and gave the mine a citation for not training him properly...so lets see 35 years I think he was trained......and a seat belt wouldn't have saved shit on a roll like that.....if he fell out as he did he would die...if he stayed in he would have also died....everyone makes mistakes...this one cost him his life......
I live only 12 miles from this accident it took then 6 years I think to finally get it off the hillside were it sat it was a bad day when I heard the operator died in this crash
The dozer is a John Deere 850C. This was the first job for the new machine and the last.
One of our customers at the Deere dealer where I worked bought what was left of it for parts. I looked at this dozer and there wasn't anything on it that wasn't bent or broken.
to see a heavy piece of equipment that heavily constructed fly apart that easily you know there was some major forces... i dont think superman could have survived.... ho pun intended... just saying..
i cant believe that msha actually wrote a citation for the opperator!!!! as if he hasnt payed enuf in the accident they felt it nesscary to write a citation and then teminate it for him because he died in the accident.
@egcentrke51 Unfortunate death of the operator; Just how strong is the roll cage on these cats? The roll over was pretty violent, but could anyone survive this with some seat belts on? I know there's no comparison, but I rolled over 8 times in car once and came out pretty banged up, but ok. It wouldn't have happened without seat belts though.
@PERIZ99 a car and a dozer are quite a bit different from each other, anyways there was probably alot of debris that entered the cab like rocks etc... which also could have killed him, but its still a possiblity of survival like you said, but its very doubtful
I don't know what it is. It seems like a fairly recent model, but not a high-track. Has Cat been making oval-track D9s lately? I am not sure if it even a Caterpillar model.
Does anybody know of an accident report of this incident?
This operator did not know what he was doing. He never should of hanged up there with the blade up in the air as soon as the dozer started to slide it was too late. the machine slid sideways and that was it.
This is absolutely horrible to watch. I don't have the faintest clue why the operator would be taking such a crazy as hell risk as going over that edge. What the f__k was he thinking???!!!!???
@gangesexcavating That's what I was thinking. Man, he shouldn't have even TRIED to move until something got a winch line on him. I guess we'll never know what he was thinking. Pretty tough to watch.
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Female voice at 1:07 in German: "Look, there it comes now!"
Dirk1961 1 week ago
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Dirk1961 1 week ago
They are speaking German at 2:38: "Two people up there on the right side" (freely translated)
Lady says at 3:00: "He's looking through (it)"
Dirk1961 1 week ago
R.I.P.
Metalmachinecrush 3 weeks ago
I always hear people say, "Never jump out of the cab!!", but i think i would have given it a try here.
BUNCHofxs 2 months ago
@BUNCHofxs Yea, I'm with you on that one. That ride didn't look survivable. B-(
JimsEquipmentShed 1 month ago
@strokin2005 yes I'm in the clouds quite often
ShadowHawk05 2 months ago
I used to operate my dozer like this.... but then I took an arrow to the knee.... lol I have a video of me operating on my page
ShadowHawk05 2 months ago
@ShadowHawk05 Quite the adventurer huh? Well do you make it to the cloud district very often? What am I saying, of course you don't.
strokin2005 2 months ago
If your taking a dozer down a steephill you need to drop your blade and take some material with you and use your ripper as an anchor if needed. Once your commited and going down don't plan on backing up.
elmustanyo 2 months ago
@elmustanyo i agree but i think he tryed to turn around and got on a rock and now its history
ericjarvis100 14 hours ago
The machine was a Deere 850C and the blade was up because the operator was attempting to back up. This operator was no rookie as he had over 30 years in the seat of a Dozer.
brokendown63 2 months ago
quicl dismantle eh?
mikepray1 2 months ago
watching the video over and over it appears the operator is inexperienced. that blade should not be all the way up in the air like that. his first mistake. very unfortunate
sirchadwick77 2 months ago
@sirchadwick77 although i'm not a machine operator, but a little understanding and discussion with operators, the operator fails then I realize. The blade should be low.
qzneto 2 months ago
Unfortunately, the video depicts a real accident in which the operator was killed. The Crystal Tips claim on Peterson Mountain, where the accident occurred, is an amethyst mine known for "elestial" and "scepter" quartz specimens that are highly prized by collectors. The mine is worked intermittently and the finds sold at rock and gem show. Details of the accident may be found at the Mine Safety and Health Administration website.
mtacafe 3 months ago
It looks like a Komatsu dozer to me. The dark vertical stripe below the cab is Komatsu, a D65 ? D85 ? My regards to his/her family...
56pw 3 months ago
I can see the operator is attemting to use the ripper around 1.40 and he is faced down hill with his push blade all of the way up it appears as he is trying to set the ripper he is trying to back up a bit then rolls forward in 2 short moves as though the ripper is being set then the camera goes off. I would assume the operator thought he had the ripper set and was looking out the back window and probably took pressure off of the brake pedel and had failed to keep the trans in gear.
goldieiscool 3 months ago
The D9H would have been noticeable, even without all the zoom from the camera...it has an extremely long nose, and was sometimes equipped with logging sweeps from the top corners of the cab, down to the nose of the engine compartment...Plus a "9" was always right at 90k - 100k lb. This video clearly shows a "6" size tractor, as someone else mentioned, a 20 ton machine.
SummitAggregates 4 months ago
Pursuant to comments below...the earliest high track Cat was the original D10 released to certain coal mines in the last part of 1980...then shortly later, the D8L in '81(which was a "9" size)...Also, the D9H later became the 8L, as their was never a "K" model built, as in the D8K...some of the earliest 9N's came out in '86 and '87, along with that series, D8N, 9N and 10N. The 9N replaced the 8L at roughly 105k lb.
SummitAggregates 4 months ago
It doesn't look like a D9 Cat to me...At three times during the video, you can see it distinctly...looks more like an 850C JD with a multishank ripper and SU blade. If you look closely, you can see the black pinstriping below the window.
SummitAggregates 4 months ago
yea and notice how the camera move away and when it comes back it rolling down the hill.so the driver jumped out.this cant be real.
west69btch 4 months ago
It was filmed by a elderly couple from Canada on vacation.I don't think they owned a cell phone at that time the incident took place May 2000 far from a public telephone and the claim owner was in close proximity of the operator.So are you looking to blame someone?
egcentrke51 4 months ago
Any one else curious why the camera operator is so quiet? And didn't even think to make a call? Granted this is out of my zone of knowledge but personally if I saw a 20ton machine tumbling down a hill, if I was recording it happen, I think I would be the first person to call it in...
240sxmetal 4 months ago
i only pray he didnt feal much of it...... like our companys safety slogan "safety, cant live without it"
catman980h 5 months ago
this is one of the most violent things i have seen on youtube. That is an extrodinary amount of mass to be thrown around like it is on the end of a rope. WOW.
milder00 5 months ago 2
That looks more like a D5 than a D9...the tracks continue in an oval shape while a D9 moves upwards slightly making a triangular shape :)
mrdzicc 5 months ago
@mrdzicc thats an older D9 almost all the dozers tracks were like that, no matter what size they were. they didnt introduce the high tracks to the dozers until a later year im not quite sure though
tylermeyers913 5 months ago
@tylermeyers913 That looked like a John Deere dozer.
UAL012 4 months ago
@mrdzicc evidently you dont know anything about dozers, the old d9's are low track dozers, the new dozers are all high track except certain models.
784plb 5 months ago
damn that nigga is dead. everyone feels sorry for him, why? he was the idiot one not being safe
MrSBChevy 5 months ago
Poor bugger,it was over as soon as he dropped that dozer over the edge just to push one boulder,there was no going back,he was to steep,i make my coin operating dozers in rock country as well 30 years of it,its up to yourselves to make a dangerous job safe,put the dozer on safe ground,push safe ground in to dangerous ground then dangerous becomes safe how ever long it takes....this is still a dangerous game we work,one wrong over,my deepest regrets to his family.
jackG622 6 months ago
@jackG622 /....Then presumably the Dozer should not have been on the hill, maybe? Or would you have topped of the hill to find the crystals?
TheLordMilton 5 months ago
@jackG622 i agree with every word you say jack. once he come over that edge he wasnt going back. he would have been trying to reverse back up & lost traction on 1 side then bingo.
13frontrow 5 months ago
Whomever sent that operator up there should be thrown in jail and sued to the nuts. It is so obvious that this guy was not experienced enough to be in that kind of ground. This tragity should have never accured. I feel for his loved ones. What an awfull waist of a young life.
zoomeroo12 6 months ago
OHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK !
bonniemalikpeter 6 months ago
look at 3:24 near the top of the vid. you can see ufo's!!
ChemicalMikeUK 6 months ago
should have keep his blade down and know the limits of ur dozer
jordanlovespplz 6 months ago
damn......... :/
ARMORSCREWS 6 months ago
why don't they call 911???! And what in the fucking hell was he thinking?!?! A dozer's tracks are slippery on rock! This was very bad judgement! Maybe he just didn't have enough experience, but it still was dumb, crystals or no crystals!
periesicsd 6 months ago
27yrs on bullies, and many hrs spent on similar slopes, this video is awake up call to us operators. Always work your machine on a firm bench no matter what .Safety first . Track yr way down to dislodge boulder. Always work within your own means and experience. Condolences to the family.
New Zealand Operator.
Whakarockers 6 months ago 2
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not a very smart move
john6218att 6 months ago
mabey if he kept the blade down it mignt have held it
john6218att 6 months ago
well i knew when it started going he was dead, no way to survive that, unless u wee faast enough to jump out
halverdha1 6 months ago
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GT500Shelby07 7 months ago
Oh god, I couldn't even imagine. D: That's so sad.
Downsight 7 months ago
Very sad day for his family!
351xbcoupe 7 months ago
shit, just rolled my 450j today. Thank God I wasn't seriously injured but the dozer is stuck in a deep canyon laying upside down. Makes me want to hire people to do this for me. Too Frickin scary. GOD BLESS
FATWONTON 7 months ago
so sad
cornishrob123 8 months ago
By the looks of the Ripper and blade cyl it looks like a 850c not a komatsu.
Who knows what happend is foot could have slipped of the decel or thought he was in reverse and was in forward or somtimes dozers just skate on rocks any way it is tragic and shows no matter what. operating on slopes can be a deadly job!
devonevans 8 months ago
I don't wanna start a big argument or debate here but i think that is a komatsu it's doesnt have the shape of the Cat D9 you can really tell the shape of this dozer at 1:40 any experienced operator can tell it's not a cat Prayers with his family
Lcguy87 9 months ago
I operate heavy equipment myself and let me tell you nowone likes to see a fellow operator get hurt or especially killed. My condolences too his family. Things can happen people can make mistakes and we are only human. I certainly wouldn't judge the man. It's just sad to me. Watched the video of a guy loose a cat excavator down a steep hill, he didn't have a chance either.
paininthe10 10 months ago 2
holly shit !
elveezultra 10 months ago
Um thats not a high track Cat. Also looks like he's pushing boulders off the cliff. Looks like he lost traction and slid. Imagine 50,000# rolling at 60 MPH and the forces. Im sure he was gone by the third roll from the forces acting and being bounced around. I believe he was gone before he knew what even happened. (Adrenaline blackout) Feel bad forthe family.
duane2072 10 months ago
omg!! wow
MugaMetalChannel 10 months ago
I live in the closest house to this mine and hike there all the time. It is on the north end of the Peterson mountain range by North Red Rock road. The couple filming it was from Canada and they were told to watch out for boulders rolling of the mountain so they thought they would film it. The camera was put down for a moment just before the Dozer teetered on a large boulder that started the roll. It started in Nevada and stopped in Ca. all on BLM land. He was trying clean up the tailings. RIP
cousinjuan 10 months ago
wouldn't have died if he had his seatbelt on..
richard833 11 months ago
@richard833 John could not have survived even with a seat belt. He was anexperienced operator but shit happens even to the best of us.
cousinjuan 10 months ago
@richard833 wow u are seriously retarded
deltaninefourtwenty 10 months ago
@richard833 you are fucking stuped no one could have survived that
ryantyler16 10 months ago
@ryantyler16 "stuped"
and yes they could, if they wear their seat belt..
richard833 10 months ago
@richard833 you are so fucking stuped no one it in inposable
ryantyler16 9 months ago
@ryantyler16
whats inposable ??
martony03 9 months ago
@martony03 that some one could have survived that
ryantyler16 9 months ago
@richard833 you sir are an idiot if you you think someone could have survived that. D9's are pretty big dozers and rolling down that hill tore the thing to SHREDS. just imagine what was going on inside the cab. Even if he had his seatbelt on, his head would be jerking around so violently that it would have been impossible to survive.
motomn 9 months ago
@richard833 the inside of the cab would have bet his skull in (hard hat or not)
slagcat 6 months ago
This guy didnt have 35 years you can tell by how he was turning sideways just before he rolled, an experienced operator knows the limits of the machine he is running, an experienced operator would keep the blade faceing streight down the hill and on the ground, you could probably have made if down the slope with a blade full of dirt in front of you and the ripper down too as long as there were no large rocks in your way.
wareznorth 11 months ago
@wareznorth Your right about the blade. I'am not positive but I think its the C's that come with a jake on them as well just for pushing down Even with a jake it wont do you any good if the blades up if its that steep.
215jami 10 months ago
Wow. Why would he take it down the top of the hillside like that? I wouldn't even do that. >.>
SilentDiablo 1 year ago
OHJUSTFORKU, he must not been that great of an operator he put himself in a no win situation
justdiger1 1 year ago
the guy was an dozer operator for 35 years...after he was killed the msha gave him a citation for not wearing his seat belt.....and gave the mine a citation for not training him properly...so lets see 35 years I think he was trained......and a seat belt wouldn't have saved shit on a roll like that.....if he fell out as he did he would die...if he stayed in he would have also died....everyone makes mistakes...this one cost him his life......
OHJUSTFORKU 1 year ago
I live only 12 miles from this accident it took then 6 years I think to finally get it off the hillside were it sat it was a bad day when I heard the operator died in this crash
loyalton1200 1 year ago
The dozer is a John Deere 850C. This was the first job for the new machine and the last.
One of our customers at the Deere dealer where I worked bought what was left of it for parts. I looked at this dozer and there wasn't anything on it that wasn't bent or broken.
The operator was killed in the accident.
2100lsr 1 year ago
to see a heavy piece of equipment that heavily constructed fly apart that easily you know there was some major forces... i dont think superman could have survived.... ho pun intended... just saying..
mrfirewolf 1 year ago
Umm Maby Help Him?
AGDemo 1 year ago
Peace too ya John and your Family!!!!
pepp5150 1 year ago
i cant believe that msha actually wrote a citation for the opperator!!!! as if he hasnt payed enuf in the accident they felt it nesscary to write a citation and then teminate it for him because he died in the accident.
cgspeeddemon1 1 year ago
here is the accident report from MSHA
Search with google for : FTL00M17
GlenCleary 1 year ago
The driver was digging a hole to find crystals for his client.
egcentrke51 1 year ago
@egcentrke51 Unfortunate death of the operator; Just how strong is the roll cage on these cats? The roll over was pretty violent, but could anyone survive this with some seat belts on? I know there's no comparison, but I rolled over 8 times in car once and came out pretty banged up, but ok. It wouldn't have happened without seat belts though.
PERIZ99 9 months ago
@PERIZ99 a car and a dozer are quite a bit different from each other, anyways there was probably alot of debris that entered the cab like rocks etc... which also could have killed him, but its still a possiblity of survival like you said, but its very doubtful
huckster78 9 months ago
What was this guy doing on the side of the mountain in the first place?
queenofspadz 1 year ago
looks like A JD DOZER
doZerrpowerr564 1 year ago
I don't know what it is. It seems like a fairly recent model, but not a high-track. Has Cat been making oval-track D9s lately? I am not sure if it even a Caterpillar model.
Does anybody know of an accident report of this incident?
TRAVISTOWN 1 year ago
@TRAVISTOWN its a komatsu something...not a d9 cat
markdmy 1 year ago
Well then what do you think it is?Mr. Maple
egcentrke51 1 year ago
@egcentrke51 Looks like it could be a Komatsu to me from the outline of it.
Catyella 1 year ago
@egcentrke51 It's an 850 John Deere.
SPACECADET2U 1 year ago
@egcentrke51 John Deer 850
rotundrooster 1 year ago
THAT'S NO D9!!
maplemanz 1 year ago
This operator did not know what he was doing. He never should of hanged up there with the blade up in the air as soon as the dozer started to slide it was too late. the machine slid sideways and that was it.
STORMLORD70 1 year ago
That is terrible!
bj616 1 year ago
This is absolutely horrible to watch. I don't have the faintest clue why the operator would be taking such a crazy as hell risk as going over that edge. What the f__k was he thinking???!!!!???
gangesexcavating 1 year ago
@gangesexcavating That's what I was thinking. Man, he shouldn't have even TRIED to move until something got a winch line on him. I guess we'll never know what he was thinking. Pretty tough to watch.
jusportel 1 year ago
This took place on BLM land.Chillcoot, California.I don't know why the video was stopped as I don't know the couple who shot this .
egcentrke51 1 year ago
@egcentrke51 ..Then maybe you know were Noah left his ark?
TheLordMilton 5 months ago
where was this? Why was the video stopped and restarted?
Punt66 1 year ago